*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
I went to the tackle store yesterday with the sole purpose of buying a Stella SW-C 6000. I felt the TwinPower and it immediately felt more rigid, lighter and as smooth as the Stella. The Stella also had a lot of play between the bail arm and the rotor (even Alan Hawk picked up on this). I couldn't justify paying so much more for the Stella which would just mean more ball bearings and a reel bag. This new TwinPower is solid and it feels super good🔥🔥. The 6000 model even came with a power knob like the Stella (just a different colour of course)
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
I was wanting a saragosa 6000, but I think a twin 8000 with 55 lbs of drag is the killer here for me. I fish for trophy river striper in tennesse and need good line capacity and strong drag. That sounds like a winner. I want a big rubbèr egg handle though
55 lbs is bluefin tuna levels of drag. Even the 35 lb drag on the Saragosa 8000 will deal with the biggest striper. We chase yellowfin tuna up to to 100 lbs on the 8000 Saragosa SW.
Hey man really in depth video, appreciate it. This sounds like the perfect reel almost, is it really that different from one of the new stellas? Want to get a reel for saltwater casting 8000 size but not sure the Stella is really that much better for a 400 dollar increase in price. What do you think?
I'm a big fan of Twin Power and also the new Saragosa as they all, including Stella have the new Infinity Drive and loads of stopping power with the Cross Carbon Drag. Twin Power is the toughest of the lot in my opinion. It has so much grit and stopping power that you can't go wrong with it.
Hello. I bought this reel 2 weeks ago. However I am not happy with my 21 Shimano Twin Power 14000XG at all. In my last fishing trip, 3 times my line is broken due to unstable drag. When I fight with big game fishes like bluefin, drag is not smoothness and under pressure it is locking the drag. Do I have to know something or check? Thank you.
Hi, I have a question about New Shimano Twin Power SW... I just bought a TP SW-C 5000 XG and I have play on the crank, the same on the rotor and I hear friction as the spool goes down (only when it goes down). Three serious issues to the new reel that hasn't been used yet. So, tomorrow I am going to the store with a complaint. Have you noticed anything similar on any of the models did you had in your hands? Thx.
Hello. I ask if the Twin Power SW-C 8000 body is the same size as the SW-C 14000? Except the ratio, of course. I plan to buy the 14000 spool to work on this reel. It's compatible? In the SW-B version I know it is compatible. Can you tell me something about this? Thanks.
@@maasai- apparently it depends what market you live in as Japan makes all the sizes but they do not bring them to certain markets... It's based on the fisheries and the demand.
hey brother I decided to buy a Twin power sw 14000 , a Stadic sw 8000, a Stella sw6000 , and a couple of Vanford 3000 and 4000's I'm thinking I need to challenge this gear
@@ramtalbo51 sorry bud you are correct regarding Silent Drive. The difference is a matter of choice. I believe all of their saltwater line up performs incredibly well as I have fished with Saragosa, Twin Power and Stella for plenty of hard pulling fish like Yellowfin Tuna, Roosters, Funeral Snapper even bottom jigging and AJ's. I think it's a matter of what you are comfortable spending and which reel falls into that range. Obviously having additional features is a bonus and will perform better but if the bearings don't matter or the handle them Twin Power SW may fit you best. For some it also included the colors on the reel, every purchaser is different.
I want to use the TP Sw for offshore spinning for tuna , what reference number you recommand me for that since i want a powerful. Braid line and bigger capacity with the lowest weight
SW is larger size reel for near shore and offshore salt. XD in nearshore and inshore salt and bigger freshwater species. FD is backcountry and freshwater
Unfortunately I only had one reel here when I was shooting them and they have been sent back now. Sorry! If you're wondering about the 8000, 10000 and 14000 they are all the same size, the only difference is that the spool is cut deeper on each of the larger models to increase the line capacity of the spool so their footprint is the same.
@@maasai- Better gearing in Shimano? LOL. Do you have any idea how much bigger and thicker the gears are in monocoque Daiwa bodies? Even gearing in Daiwa LT reels are massive and much stronger than Shimano.
Depends what you're fishing for. The strongest of the group is the SW but the FD is an amazing reel as well. The lightest is the XD. Depends if you need super heavy duty, medium duty or a strong low start up inertia reel like the XD.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors The 21 Twin Power SW as with the previous model feature a hybrid metal/plastic body. The plastic side screws into the metal frame. For reference please see the 21 TP SW review from RUclipsr Ryan Morie. Also the hybrid body is discussed by Alan Hawk in several of his articles. The Saragosa also features the hybrid metal/plastic body and a plastic rotor, the biggest upgrade from the Saragosa to the Twin Power is the metal rotor for the TP, to get a full metal frame and rotor you need to step up to the Stella. Cheers
I am confused about the TWINPOWER_SW_C vs the TWIN_POWER_SW not sure if the guy in this video is aware of the differences. The TWINPOWER_SW_C has HEATSINK DRAG while the TWIN_POWER_SW has X-SHIP. Shimano does a poor job communicating the differences and I have yet to come across a video properly comparing these two models.
The Twin Power C is not available in this market. This video is for the Twin Power SW, not the C. Also, the Twin Power SW has the Heat Sink Drag and yes XShip which is a totally different technology that works on a different part of the reel. Double bearing supported pinion gears in Shimano reels have been around since X Ship first showed up in the North American market around 13 years ago. Odds are good it was released earlier in Japan as their product leads the way to expanding into other markets around the world. They just tweak the product to suit the different needs of different fisheries be it gear ratio, drag, features etc.
It will perform well but for specifically designed surf casting reels check out fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/Surf_Reels.html
Thanks & no problem... i always do as well but, i have the older model 5k & it has automatic trip.... i occasionally have premature bail closure on casting because of the that function & was hoping they improved on it with this new model by making it manual like the 8k, 10k & 14k models.
*Bought a 500 for an ultralight rod. It's very smooth **enjoyable.fishing** recommend casts great. One odd thing- the bale wire is a bit heavy diameter in my opinion for a reel of this size. But a great purchase.*
I went to the tackle store yesterday with the sole purpose of buying a Stella SW-C 6000. I felt the TwinPower and it immediately felt more rigid, lighter and as smooth as the Stella. The Stella also had a lot of play between the bail arm and the rotor (even Alan Hawk picked up on this). I couldn't justify paying so much more for the Stella which would just mean more ball bearings and a reel bag. This new TwinPower is solid and it feels super good🔥🔥. The 6000 model even came with a power knob like the Stella (just a different colour of course)
Glad you found one!
I also just bought the 6000 an looks an feels in my opinion felt nicer and looked nicer then the Stella.
Thanks for the video. I just purchased a Twin Power 8000 SW. Cant wait to get it! I subbed. Very informative, TY!
Appreciate it, glad we could help!
Took my brand new Battle II 5000 for a spin yesterday for the very first time and I hooked a 20lb yellowtail using a Ugly Stik X2 (medium hard) rod ruclips.net/user/postUgkxM68VkfsQhHaabDce1IwOCXuvumcpbZ_k . This combo was recommended on some website and it did not disappoint me. The reel is smooth, the drag click is pretty cool cause i think it adds to the excitement of fighting the fish, personally the drag is my favorite part. I use braid and 300 yards will fill the entire spool. This combo is my main setup from now on although I have to disclose I am new to fishing.
Great to hear!
Excellent Job on this video very in depth and precise information for each reel and what species of fish! Keep up the good work.
Appreciate it!
I was wanting a saragosa 6000, but I think a twin 8000 with 55 lbs of drag is the killer here for me. I fish for trophy river striper in tennesse and need good line capacity and strong drag. That sounds like a winner. I want a big rubbèr egg handle though
55 lbs is bluefin tuna levels of drag. Even the 35 lb drag on the Saragosa 8000 will deal with the biggest striper. We chase yellowfin tuna up to to 100 lbs on the 8000 Saragosa SW.
A detailed, helpful video. I had a great time. Well done
Best review I've watched so far. Thanks heaps mate . Cant wait to use mine👌From "Volty" Australia 🇦🇺
Awesome! Thank you!
Great information video! Thanks! Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Hey man really in depth video, appreciate it. This sounds like the perfect reel almost, is it really that different from one of the new stellas? Want to get a reel for saltwater casting 8000 size but not sure the Stella is really that much better for a 400 dollar increase in price. What do you think?
I'm a big fan of Twin Power and also the new Saragosa as they all, including Stella have the new Infinity Drive and loads of stopping power with the Cross Carbon Drag. Twin Power is the toughest of the lot in my opinion. It has so much grit and stopping power that you can't go wrong with it.
Can’t wait to get one for tarpon here in Boca Grande. 🤟🏼
There is much more models of New TP for 2021. Model 10 000 and 14000 are available in PG and HG/XG
Good to find your channel. I use to watch you on WFN.
Think I want to pick up one of these for my legend xtreme.
Glad to help. Check out www.waypointtv.com it's where my show is now and a bunch of other green hunting and fishing shows. It's a cool platform!
I'm interested in buying the 10000 for that extra line capacity, but seeing the 14k weight difference, might get the 14k.
Really good review!
Damn, I want one of those. Great review.
Hello. I bought this reel 2 weeks ago. However I am not happy with my 21 Shimano Twin Power 14000XG at all. In my last fishing trip, 3 times my line is broken due to unstable drag. When I fight with big game fishes like bluefin, drag is not smoothness and under pressure it is locking the drag. Do I have to know something or check? Thank you.
What lb test line are you using and what bait are you throwing so I can have a better picture of what's going on...
PE5 Sunline Smooth and 0.57 MM Seaguar FXR leader. With Ocea jigger and same setup, I got 52 kg bluefin last week...@@JPDeRoseOutdoors
Muchas gracias por la información
Thank you
Great run down of the reels! Between the 10k and 14k which would you recommend for Tarpon?
I would go with the 14000 for the extra line capacity.
Hi, I have a question about New Shimano Twin Power SW... I just bought a TP SW-C 5000 XG and I have play on the crank, the same on the rotor and I hear friction as the spool goes down (only when it goes down). Three serious issues to the new reel that hasn't been used yet. So, tomorrow I am going to the store with a complaint. Have you noticed anything similar on any of the models did you had in your hands? Thx.
Good day sir! stradic sw 20 4000 xg spare spool compatible with twin power 21 sw 4000xg?
Hello. I ask if the Twin Power SW-C 8000 body is the same size as the SW-C 14000? Except the ratio, of course. I plan to buy the 14000 spool to work on this reel. It's compatible? In the SW-B version I know it is compatible. Can you tell me something about this? Thanks.
Very good info. But one other consider.... What is more important for tautog(black fish) fishing around jetty?
Torque? or speed?
TW 10000 or 14000?
I would choose torque for Togs because of where they live
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors
Agree~
Thx
The previous model Twin Power XG also came in a 14000, so that is not a new size actually. Great video.
Yeah, I mentioned it in my comments. The 6000 was the new size! Appreciate it!!
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors
Wrong again, 6000 is there in the previous version too. I have one 15 6000sw pg.
@@maasai- guess you didn't bother reading the description where I noted the mistake. Sometimes you just get bad info from your sources.
@@maasai- apparently it depends what market you live in as Japan makes all the sizes but they do not bring them to certain markets... It's based on the fisheries and the demand.
i didn't hear any of your input. You just read the information posted on their website.
Hard to give an opinion if you haven’t fished the product. This was posted as a Walkthrough not a review.
I love it🥺
hey brother I decided to buy a Twin power sw 14000 , a Stadic sw 8000, a Stella sw6000 , and a couple of Vanford 3000 and 4000's I'm thinking I need to challenge this gear
That’s a hell of a line up!
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors I also bought 30 rods gopro gear a purpose built Land Rover off grid set up looking forward to the Australian summer
hi jp now this 2021 has a heatsink and infinity drive whats is the big diffirence with stella 2020?
Bearing count - 3 extra in Stella, X Ridgid Handle in Stella and Silent Drive in Stella.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thanks but this new tp has also silent drive is it worth it the price diffirence?
@@ramtalbo51 sorry bud you are correct regarding Silent Drive. The difference is a matter of choice. I believe all of their saltwater line up performs incredibly well as I have fished with Saragosa, Twin Power and Stella for plenty of hard pulling fish like Yellowfin Tuna, Roosters, Funeral Snapper even bottom jigging and AJ's. I think it's a matter of what you are comfortable spending and which reel falls into that range. Obviously having additional features is a bonus and will perform better but if the bearings don't matter or the handle them Twin Power SW may fit you best. For some it also included the colors on the reel, every purchaser is different.
Can't decide between this and certate sw.
I want to use the TP Sw for offshore spinning for tuna , what reference number you recommand me for that since i want a powerful. Braid line and bigger capacity with the lowest weight
14000 twin power would do the trick or the Stella 14000
Hey I'm fishing in river would you recommend this reel over stradic fl 2500 or vanford 2500? Thanks
Twin powers smallest size is a 5000 so depending on the size of the fish you are targeting it may not be your best option.
Would you recommend the 10000 for jigging and popping in the cape cod canal?
10000 would be plenty for the Canal for sure!
Hey mate what’s a good rod to pair with 10k mainly inshore sometimes 60m deep water I was thinking the grappler type C 73ml
Medium light may be a bit under for a 10K size reel. I would go Medium for more of a match. I typically run 5000 and 6000 size spinning on ML rods
Trying my new one tomorrow 😍🥷
Twin Power XD, FD, and SW.
2024 now the FE! All saltwater reels too.
So confused! Why is there so many models??
SW is larger size reel for near shore and offshore salt. XD in nearshore and inshore salt and bigger freshwater species. FD is backcountry and freshwater
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Thank you!
Very nice 👍
Can you please explain what is the difference between 2015 model to 2021 model? Sw 4000 xg
Lots of upgrades in the 2021. I have every technology listed in the video but I do not recall what the 2015 has as standard.
Best rod to pair with 10,000 and 14,000?
why highprice but the body has a plastic component
like video 👍👍👍😎
Does the 2019 Stella have X protect? Are the Twin Power better sealed than the Stella?
Yes, both freshwater and saltwater versions have X Protect
Which thousand is the one in ur hand?
Which is better the 2021 TwinPower sw,xd or fd or which one would you get 🤙🤙🤙
SW for near shore and off shore, XD for near shore and in shore and FD for Freshwater
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thanks🤙
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors how long is the warranty on this reel thanks 🤙
@@lakaybadboy8083 I believe its like every other reel, 1 year
does the spool of 10k fit into 14k body? interchangeable ?
8000 10000 and 14000 should all be the same body so it may. I unfortunately have not tried though bud
What is the different between Stella vs twin power?
Mainly bearing count and a few features like X Ridgid Handle
Can you do a size comparison? Visually
Unfortunately I only had one reel here when I was shooting them and they have been sent back now. Sorry! If you're wondering about the 8000, 10000 and 14000 they are all the same size, the only difference is that the spool is cut deeper on each of the larger models to increase the line capacity of the spool so their footprint is the same.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors thank you
Now can't decide which to choose from Shimano twin power sw or the new Daiwa certate sw.
Certate sw all the way. Bigger gear, mq body so no side plate, better sealing, simply put it's a Daiwa
@@slyarsenal and cheaper than
TP sw.
No it's more expensive by 25%, but more worthwhile I think
For the long run i’ll go with any shimano , simple n easy for indvidual deep service n better gearings
@@maasai- Better gearing in Shimano? LOL. Do you have any idea how much bigger and thicker the gears are in monocoque Daiwa bodies? Even gearing in Daiwa LT reels are massive and much stronger than Shimano.
Good vdo
5000 FD or 5000 sw what’s your pick and why?
Depends what you're fishing for. The strongest of the group is the SW but the FD is an amazing reel as well. The lightest is the XD. Depends if you need super heavy duty, medium duty or a strong low start up inertia reel like the XD.
shimano japan is the best on the market
the combat handle is made of EVA on small sizes ?!
Not sure as I have only held the 14000. I know the smaller sizes of the XD have the EVA round handle which I love.
The handle on the sizes from 8000 down have a round metal knob
Not all metal body, one half is plastic
They don’t use plastic on bodies that I have ever seen.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors The 21 Twin Power SW as with the previous model feature a hybrid metal/plastic body. The plastic side screws into the metal frame.
For reference please see the 21 TP SW
review from RUclipsr Ryan Morie. Also the hybrid body is discussed by Alan Hawk in several of his articles.
The Saragosa also features the hybrid metal/plastic body and a plastic rotor, the biggest upgrade from the Saragosa to the Twin Power is the metal rotor for the TP, to get a full metal frame and rotor you need to step up to the Stella.
Cheers
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Can we switch from left to right?
Yes, the handle is switchable
I am confused about the TWINPOWER_SW_C vs the TWIN_POWER_SW not sure if the guy in this video is aware of the differences. The TWINPOWER_SW_C has HEATSINK DRAG while the TWIN_POWER_SW has X-SHIP. Shimano does a poor job communicating the differences and I have yet to come across a video properly comparing these two models.
The Twin Power C is not available in this market. This video is for the Twin Power SW, not the C. Also, the Twin Power SW has the Heat Sink Drag and yes XShip which is a totally different technology that works on a different part of the reel. Double bearing supported pinion gears in Shimano reels have been around since X Ship first showed up in the North American market around 13 years ago. Odds are good it was released earlier in Japan as their product leads the way to expanding into other markets around the world. They just tweak the product to suit the different needs of different fisheries be it gear ratio, drag, features etc.
@@JPDeRoseOutdoors Ah thanks for the clarification. The Shimano website says the TWIN_POWER_SW has X-TOUGH DRAG
@@itusvirus 10000-14000 sizes come with Heat Sink
Is this reel good for surf casting?
It will perform well but for specifically designed surf casting reels check out fish.shimano.com/content/fish/northamerica/us/en/homepage/Surf_Reels.html
What makes the stella better than this reel?
More bearings and Stella also has the X Ridgid Handle
Is the 6k a manual flip bail???
Manual open or close?
Yes... do you have to trip the bail arm manually or is it Automatic by turning the retrieve arm???
After opening ofcourse...
@@kalika27 I always close by hand on all my spinning, especially the bigger sizes but I did not have a 6000 to check for you. Sorry!
Thanks & no problem... i always do as well but, i have the older model 5k & it has automatic trip.... i occasionally have premature bail closure on casting because of the that function & was hoping they improved on it with this new model by making it manual like the 8k, 10k & 14k models.
😌😌😌😌
Hy bro
$$$
Can’t wait to get one for Tarpon here in Boca Grande. 🤟🏼
whats the difference between the TP2020 5000 vs TP2021
Main differences would be the Infinity Drive, Silent Drive and X Protect.
Tp2020 fd is the light version of twin power and the later 2021 is the sw version , both don’t mix