Is This NEW Mod Cheating In Geometry Dash? (Geometry Dash Controversy)

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  • Is This NEW Mod Cheating In Geometry Dash? (Geometry Dash Controversy)
    recently the geometry dash platformer saves mod has been released and has garnered lots of controversy surrounding if it should be considered legit or hacking, similar to the clicks between frames mod. robtop is likely to add it into the game anyways, so is it cheating? thanks so much for watching!
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  • @pu1s4ar
    @pu1s4ar 4 дня назад +52

    If platformer saving is cheating, then leaving your computer on overnight is just as bad. The only thing the mod opens up is being able to access the rest of the game.

    • @Niteowl11611
      @Niteowl11611 3 дня назад +1

      @@pu1s4ar it is just as bad lmao. Like you do that with how to platformer you didn't actually beat the level

    • @pu1s4ar
      @pu1s4ar 3 дня назад +5

      ​@@Niteowl11611Let's say you start playing how to platformer at around 6 pm, your probably going to do things in between instead of listening to Kevin Macleod music for 6 hours straight. For example watching youtube and a lot of other things. So if you sleep at lets say 10 pm, then the reason why you couldn't finish the level was just because you just don't have as much time to play the game therefore not being able to complete the level. If the difficulty comes down to whoever has the most constant freetime, then that's restricting many potential players from hitting the ceiling that will shape the future of the game.

    • @jinx_is_god
      @jinx_is_god 3 дня назад

      ​based @@pu1s4ar

    • @0jpgYT
      @0jpgYT 3 дня назад +2

      @@pu1s4ar 1001 reasons why rob should add this to the game xD

    • @Niteowl11611
      @Niteowl11611 3 дня назад

      @@pu1s4ar it's as simple as why are you playing this at 6pm? You mute the gd music using this little handy thing called the pause button. You alt tab to RUclips, or if you're on mobile just switch tabs, you out on some music, or background sound of some kind, and you play the level. Give yourself a ton of time beforehand, because if you don't have that time, then why are you playing GD, a game that takes a lot of time? I get people's point on how it makes certain levels unplayable, but yet some people enjoy that.

  • @PeasantBanana
    @PeasantBanana 4 дня назад +62

    As someone who has beaten 171 out of the current 173 platformer demons rated currently, I think that this is fine. In no way does this change raw difficulty of the level and if you want to play from where you left off on mobile leave your device on.

    • @Palemis
      @Palemis 4 дня назад

      Yeah I'm sure how to platformer would definitely an insane (before extreme) demon with this mod, right?

    • @marcus549
      @marcus549 4 дня назад +2

      “How to platformer” is mostly a insane demon because of it’s 200 last levels and room 666. The other 1800 rooms are a breeze for anyone pretty much(and take less total time than the hard rooms). After actually playing and completing the level I don’t think this change would affect the rating much. Personally though I could see the level dropping to a hard demon when the community gets better in skill. Potentially down to a hard demon or even a medium demon in the future. Imo nothing changes with this mod though in the current community.

    • @PeasantBanana
      @PeasantBanana 4 дня назад +1

      @@Palemis Not really. How To Platformer would stay the same difficulty because you would be able to take a break without the mod and by leaving gd open while in the level. With the mod by just leaving the level and coming back later. You can play from where you left off on with both options. The only difference is you can't take a break to play GD (at least on the device you are playing on) and it will be more tedious to leave it on.

    • @crimsonamogsus7351
      @crimsonamogsus7351 3 дня назад

      Have you beaten Spinbounce Zone?

    • @PeasantBanana
      @PeasantBanana 3 дня назад

      @@crimsonamogsus7351 yeah.

  • @rogelioayus
    @rogelioayus 4 дня назад +80

    We do need 2 totally separate saves such as
    Checkpoint and Save point.
    Checkpoint Basically non-savable saves while save point is another checkpoint but can be saved at exit and reload levels (unless you delete cache, it will be gone forever)

    • @Yesbutactuallyno123
      @Yesbutactuallyno123 4 дня назад +2

      yeah either this or just have level creators determine if a player can resume in the middle of the level

    • @zorpglorp
      @zorpglorp 4 дня назад

      checkpoints could probably have a check box that you can toggle to turn it into a save point. could possibly change the sprite too

    • @marcus549
      @marcus549 4 дня назад +3

      I feel like this version of saves is just unnecessary though. It just wastes people time for really no reason. What does making players replay parts after relogging accomplish? Why not just let players leave and start over where they were? Once again people can just leave the game on.

    • @maximushank1115
      @maximushank1115 4 дня назад

      So like if how to platformer has like savepoints every 100 or 200 mini levels then it would be alright ig

  • @not.so.splonk
    @not.so.splonk 4 дня назад +88

    Why is it whenever it's another day in the geometry dash community, someone has to make a controversial mod 😭

    • @SawBSketch
      @SawBSketch 4 дня назад +14

      it's not someone making a controversial mode, it's someone making a mod, and then other people make it controversial.

    • @snowycoast
      @snowycoast 4 дня назад +7

      People keep making amazingly convenient mods, oh no!!!!! 😢😢😢

    • @surroundedgd
      @surroundedgd 4 дня назад

      @@snowycoast fr lol

    • @divroooooooo
      @divroooooooo 4 дня назад

      the gd community runs off of complaining for 0 reason 👍👍👍👍

    • @user-wl8zm2gl5r
      @user-wl8zm2gl5r 4 дня назад

      ​@divroooooooo oh yeah because a mod that modifies the base game and makes it easier is TOTALLY not cheating

  • @alk4n3
    @alk4n3 4 дня назад +35

    i dont care if this mod makes a lot of platformer levels easier, we should prioritize the fun factor

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад

      yes.

    • @nandinanubis1
      @nandinanubis1 4 дня назад

      Yeah I agree

    • @p8geons233
      @p8geons233 4 дня назад

      Ah yes let’s just allow complete cheating in all forms, started with CBF and now it’s moving onto platformer levels with this bs💀

    • @Niteowl11611
      @Niteowl11611 4 дня назад

      @@alk4n3 just add a switch to turn it off for some levels, some levels are meant to push you mentally, like How to Platformer

    • @Eagleleadsmc
      @Eagleleadsmc 3 дня назад

      It DOES NOT make ANY level easier. Simply think about it for 5 minutes and youll realise length of a platformer ≠ difficulty

  • @gopsogd
    @gopsogd 4 дня назад +189

    Bro how to platformer gonna be an easy demon with this 💀
    Edit: guys its a joke why are you making a war over this in the replies 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @Tsa_Miceloa
      @Tsa_Miceloa 4 дня назад +20

      no, there are many hard demon-like rooms in it

    • @gopsogd
      @gopsogd 4 дня назад +15

      @@Tsa_Miceloa sure but imagine like clearing lets say 10 of them, not playing the level for like 2 days, then coming back and beating another 10, and so on.

    • @jgalfredo2710
      @jgalfredo2710 4 дня назад +19

      ​@@gopsogdthat's how most platformers work in other games

    • @CubeXC
      @CubeXC 4 дня назад +5

      @@Tsa_Miceloano, how to platformer is stupidly easy even for the hardest rooms, the only thing that makes it’s difficulty is it’s length. It’s max easy demon with platformer save

    • @MatthewGamess
      @MatthewGamess 4 дня назад +10

      @@gopsogd its still just as hard, it just takes longer to beat the level..? and you can already just leave your pc on and go do something else, its just the risk of crashing

  • @linzu444
    @linzu444 4 дня назад +9

    1:10 perfect gameplay sync with the music🔥

  • @FRBFStudios
    @FRBFStudios 4 дня назад +7

    if rob adds this into the game, i REALLY hope that it's going to be a seperate checkpoint object/toggleable option so the existing top platformers' difficulty doesn't get nuked and creators have more control over the difficulty of their level in general. the damage wouldn't be too big otherwise since there aren't that many and the trend seems to be going towards extremely hard and medium-length levels for new extremes anyways (22 trials of pain, cave of the scarlet sky), but it would still be wise.

    • @waffthewaffle
      @waffthewaffle 3 дня назад +2

      Absolutely nothing about the difficulty would change it just makes it accessible to people who can’t leave their game open overnight for work reasons or something else. Makes the game better and evens playing field. If it’s only hard for people who can’t leave their computer open it’s not really hard

  • @yellowblobby
    @yellowblobby 4 дня назад +25

    people saying that it's cheating should seriously touch grass

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад +6

      indeed. Oh no, I choose not to have to replay a 2 hour level because my pc randomly crashed.
      what a cheater I am!

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад +3

      They must not pay their electricity bills.

    • @p8geons233
      @p8geons233 4 дня назад +1

      This mod, CBF, show hitboxes on death, FPS bypass, and many other mods are cheating, yet somehow they are all just allowed anyways😂

    • @p8geons233
      @p8geons233 4 дня назад +2

      @@IzzyTheOwlthat’s part of the difficulty of playing platformer levels womp womp🤷‍♂️

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад +3

      @@p8geons233 ahh the difficulty of your game randomly crashing.
      You're insane.

  • @iRWQFSFASXCi
    @iRWQFSFASXCi 4 дня назад +9

    1:00 yes and there are THREE LONGER Platformers coming in future
    1. How To Platformer Sequel (5000 Rooms) around 2-3 Times longer
    2. Dead of Night (Masterpiece) Definetly harder but shorter
    3. FPT (DEATHLESS) around 3h but could be speedrunned under 3h
    longest counting every death is most likely H2P sequel
    but
    longest speedrunned deathless is Definetly FPT (ist also most likely hardest, at least with DON)

    • @aanies40
      @aanies40 4 дня назад

      dead of night*

    • @marcus549
      @marcus549 4 дня назад +1

      3 hour deathless level sounds gruelling.

    • @iRWQFSFASXCi
      @iRWQFSFASXCi 3 дня назад

      @@marcus549 it definetly is...
      but first i have to finish layout :)

    • @iRWQFSFASXCi
      @iRWQFSFASXCi 3 дня назад

      @@aanies40 ok
      sry

    • @just-a-fnf-fan
      @just-a-fnf-fan 3 дня назад

      Also untitled gd level (25 hours)

  • @liminall
    @liminall 4 дня назад +11

    if it was optional it would be fine, i know robtop would make it optional for creators. the issue comes from levels like htp where the whole point is that its long and takes alot of time to beat it.

    • @marcus549
      @marcus549 4 дня назад +1

      Creators should not have that option imo. Inconvenience is not difficult, like just make it harder if you want it to be a hard level? A level is only as hard as its hardest checkpoint part. The lack of save points is just bad. Anyway we can already have save points by just leaving the game on. In practice this is really a quality of life change.
      A platformer game outside gd is not harder if you remove savepoints. It’s just a bad game. I don’t think we should incentivise creators to try to get higher difficulty ratings through this method.

    • @dreamsdicc1817
      @dreamsdicc1817 4 дня назад

      ​@@marcus549no, giving the option to the creator is better. If everyone will agree with your opinion, then theyll add the option everytime anyways.
      Some levels dont need it. The 2000 level thats rated does not need it, because it was intended not to have it

    • @marcus549
      @marcus549 4 дня назад +2

      @@dreamsdicc1817 We should not incentivise creators to make long unenjoyable levels to bump up their difficulty when they could just make the level good instead. What I’m really hearing from you is that universal savepoints would make people lose clout.

    • @dreamsdicc1817
      @dreamsdicc1817 4 дня назад

      @@marcus549 ok but why would we force creators to use it, when we dont even have it in the game at all. If you dont like long levels then just say that. I beat the 2000 level because i found it as a challenge for patience. But if you can save progress for it now, it defeats the whole purpose.
      I think levels that require more thought process or problem solving should for sure have it. But if you cant handle a long challenge, then dont play it. If someone creates a level with the save progress option, then thats great. But you cant just get rid of some levels being one long challenge

    • @liminall
      @liminall 3 дня назад +1

      @@marcus549 so you would rather not have choice and customization, instead you want a update to remove possibilities instead of adding more. thank god you dont run this game.

  • @MichaelOxlong-im7lm
    @MichaelOxlong-im7lm 3 дня назад +4

    It's literally the same thing as if I just paused the game and left it open on that level. Except now instead of having two executables open so I can do that while playing other levels. I can just do it with one executable since it's saved. No one would call me a cheater for leaving the game open, even though it's effectively the same.

  • @Lumineonxx
    @Lumineonxx 4 дня назад +6

    maybe you could just make it an option for levels to fix everything

  • @klopsmmm
    @klopsmmm 4 дня назад +54

    All levels? Nah. This should be a feature creators can either turn on or off in their level in order to be legit

    • @chasgd
      @chasgd 4 дня назад +4

      ye I agree

    • @AlexBox4D
      @AlexBox4D 4 дня назад +1

      Was about to write that rn xD

    • @CubeXC
      @CubeXC 4 дня назад +1

      Exactly and that’s how robtop want it added, to have saveable checkpoints

    • @SugarCubic709
      @SugarCubic709 4 дня назад

      Should also make it only save during checkpoints cuz lets be honest its already really good and needed

    • @Niteowl11611
      @Niteowl11611 4 дня назад

      Fr I beat how to platformer without this, Imma die if they suddenly add that to the vanilla game

  • @surroundedgd
    @surroundedgd 4 дня назад +17

    CBF is one thing, but anyone acting like this is some sort of revolutionary hack is wilding, it basically just removes the tediousness of long platformer levels like "how to platformer"

    • @NovaAlt-og2lm
      @NovaAlt-og2lm 4 дня назад +2

      but it makes it easier

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад +8

      @@NovaAlt-og2lm it doesn't. Hell, if I don't turn off my game, I won't lose progress. The only reason why I would is that sometimes my pc crashes.
      For fuck sake how to platformer is already hard enough. look up stage 666, you don't need to beat that 340334394930493 times to be worthy, and better yet, it really isn't meant to be because checkpoints exist for a fucking reason. Stop calling it cheating if you have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @bloodreptil
      @bloodreptil 4 дня назад

      I kinda agree, but for some levels the tediousness is the thing that makes them hard. So for how to platformer, it should be considered cheating.

    • @NovaAlt-og2lm
      @NovaAlt-og2lm 4 дня назад +1

      @@IzzyTheOwl but its still a advantage over vanilla

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад +2

      @@NovaAlt-og2lm in this case what about the monitor difference back in 2.1? 144hz should be considered cheating no? It's an advantage over poor people.
      this is how much sense this is making.
      tediousness isn't hard, it's tiring and frustrating,

  • @Trywan_
    @Trywan_ 4 дня назад +3

    Bro saying that this is cheating makes no sense... 😵‍💫 If you have a powerful enough PC you can just let GD in pause, hide the window, and play smth else. I think a fair solution should be that creators can place save-checkpoints on which you can leave then come back and sub-checkpoints that are deleted when you leave the level. People who say that very long level will be easy but no, they are still very difficult and VERY long, in short I think that boredom shouldn't be equal to difficulty.

  • @moshi29.
    @moshi29. 3 дня назад +3

    a leaderboard mod does not approve this platformer saves mod bruh but robtop said he will add platformer saves in 2.07 update

  • @SSuser-go7jm
    @SSuser-go7jm 4 дня назад +2

    This 100% needs to be added to the game (I don’t have 6 hours to try to beat the Abyss or something near that difficulty), but at the moment this mod is 100% cheating. Platformers at the moment just reward people leaving their computer on while taking breaks or people with way too much free time. I personally think all checkpoints should work like this, but possibly just making it a toggle switched on by default or making specific checkpoints able to be saved on would work better.

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад +1

      This mod is essentially the same as keeping your computer on overnight. I honestly see no problem.

  • @squirtledotcom
    @squirtledotcom 4 дня назад +2

    Tbh saving across multiple playthroughs is pretty standard across many games and should be in GD, and it isn’t cheating, as you aren’t making any parts easier, you are just starting from where you left off last time

  • @Song30gg
    @Song30gg 4 дня назад +2

    I bet wavix loves when a new controversy happens so he can save up for his yacht

  • @TheAstronomicalCuber
    @TheAstronomicalCuber 3 дня назад +1

    I think this is a good idea as long as when you leave you will respawn at a checkpoint that the creater put. I think this is nessesary simply so top 1s/extremes still have the option for no checkpoints

  • @thepersonwhoasked9475
    @thepersonwhoasked9475 2 дня назад +1

    having to do a platformer level in one sitting is artificial difficulty and absolutely should not be factored into the difficulty of a platformer level. What should be factored is how hard the individual checkpoints are, especially the hardest checkpoints. The only real problem with the mod right now is that the timer doesn't work with it, so it would screw leaderboards if you beat the level with the mod.
    If you think taking a break is cheating, I don't know what to say...

  • @tenayauwu
    @tenayauwu 4 дня назад +1

    tbh this might be a good thing for the game. Currently the only reasons people hate this is because it's a mod and even though robtop has said he's adding the exact same thing people will hate this until it's added to the game in a worse way. thats just how the community is. I personally think this will allow people to put more hard stuff in platformer mode, pushing the skill ceiling further. It's only issue right now is that because it's new, old platformer levels will become easier to handle, because when those levels were created this wasnt a feature. This really doesn't make the game easier in any way as we could already just afk in platformer levels, all it does is make it more accessible and acceptable to take breaks.

  • @thearmyants.
    @thearmyants. 4 дня назад +3

    unless its added into gd officially, yes this is absolutely cheating. It removes most of the difficulty for almost every long platformer ever. If you don't want to spend so long on a platformer that is long itself, practice it.

  • @p8geons233
    @p8geons233 4 дня назад +1

    The main reason that this mod is cheating imo is that you have the ability to start a platformer level, play as many other levels as you want, and then return to the same platformer level. This does not at all mirror the scenario of leaving your computer on one platformer level overnight since this mod removes a lot of the mental torture that can come from being forced to play the level until you finish it (while I don’t feel like this is how platformer levels should achieve their difficulty, this is still how many of them do so, and removing this mental torture is just nerfing the level/cheating) since you can play as many other levels as you want in between sessions on one particular platformer level. I would see the mod as legitimate if it only saved your checkpoint in a platformer level *as long as* you do not enter any other levels in the game (idk if this is possible to implement or not). Doing this would still have safety from game crashes and would be an alternative for people who can’t leave their computer on for hours, but would still force you to play one level until it is done.

    • @ids.
      @ids. 3 дня назад

      That is just not a good way to implement it.
      I feel like it would just advice people to stay away from platformer levels, especially the demons.

    • @p8geons233
      @p8geons233 2 дня назад

      @@ids. This would be the only fair way to implement the mod imo, since it gives an exactly identical setup to afking a device (you can only play that specific platformer level until you beat it or the mod erases all of your progress). In its current state, the mod provides a huge advantage over just leaving the game afk, making it cheating imo (it is also not endorsed by Robtop in his own game, which also qualifies it as cheating imo).

  • @yeeterdeleter0117
    @yeeterdeleter0117 4 дня назад +1

    Robtop's version should make it so you can put a save point in the level, not that you can just sace whenever.

  • @Ruffies1
    @Ruffies1 4 дня назад +5

    What I don't get is that people don't seem to be bothered at all by how much top platformer demons will be impacted. Like all previous top platformer achievements (Including my Jetpack Trials completion) will be pretty much completely irrelevant due to there no longer being a time constraint (you can keep your device on overnight and such to keep playing but it's very bothersome). Like bro pls Jetpack Trials boutta be more third extreme demon platformer that gets demoted to insane if this feature drops. 😭😭😭

    • @p8geons233
      @p8geons233 4 дня назад +1

      It’s honestly sad the amount of blatant cheating that has been implemented in the last few years since FPS bypass was first allowed💀

  • @PEPERgan
    @PEPERgan 4 дня назад +1

    i had some levels that i wanted to play so badly, but haven't had time to play them so i am really thankfull for this mod

  • @MainConMan
    @MainConMan 4 дня назад

    this is almost exactly the same thing as pausing the level and opening a new instance of gd to play other stuff on
    the only difference is you can turn off your pc and less pc resources are consumed by that instance of gd thats paused on the level.

  • @zorpglorp
    @zorpglorp 4 дня назад

    hey wavix there's this new-ish mod out called "click on steps" that works essentially the same as CBF except it's capped at 240hz. i think it would be a great topic to cover and bring some attention to.

  • @bananamaniac3633
    @bananamaniac3633 4 дня назад +1

    I feel like when robtop adds this it should be something you need to enable in the editor so levels like how to platformer aren’t free

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад +1

      how to platformer ISN'T free with this. God damnit just look at those stages they are already hard by themselves (yes, beyond hard demon, I am a person who plays platformer demons so I know the hecking difficulty) what does replaying them 2234 times do?

    • @Clubstepper
      @Clubstepper 4 дня назад

      ​@@IzzyTheOwl im only using this mod because i play with my brothers computer

    • @iambook6323
      @iambook6323 4 дня назад

      @@IzzyTheOwl people are just stupid. they think that making a level tedious to make it difficult is a good thing. it should change. with this mod we should make levels more difficult.

  • @Unfunny.person.on.the.internet
    @Unfunny.person.on.the.internet 4 дня назад

    For now kinda. Depends on the level. Like if your playing a level thats meant to be played in one go then yes but just for a avarage level no. Hope when the feature is added we can make checkpoints for saving before leaving and not just save at any moment. Of course it should be diffrent than the normal checkpoint.

  • @moonfight.
    @moonfight. 4 дня назад

    the thing is, if you want something like this in the vanilla game, just leave your game open, but if you are on an os that needs to frequently restart (windows, ubuntu, etc) you cant really do that, so i think this mod simply levels the playing field in that area

    • @Rylika
      @Rylika 4 дня назад

      Did this once in how to platformer. Came back the next day and my 240 fps became 40-50 fps due to something idk.
      At the end all my inputs having a 0 to 25ms input delay made it impossible to complete.
      Losing 2-3 hours of progress due to a technical issue out of my control is a slap in the face

  • @polo4228
    @polo4228 4 дня назад +1

    I wouldn't use it myself as I don't use mods (i like vanilla game)
    However, I don't think it's cheating. If anything, it can be a lifesaver. There have been many times where I pause a platformer but then absent mindedly exit the level and had to start all over again

  • @kars2431
    @kars2431 4 дня назад

    no gameplay or visual change also literally exist in vanilla called the pause button its slightly different but people still do that all the time

  • @Rylika
    @Rylika 4 дня назад

    In terms of the core playerbase saving at checkpointd is a massive positive overall.
    It does affect top 1s but they will simply adapt with less of them and at the end they are what 0.001% of the playerbase?
    Im all for it for the fun factor instead of redoing

  • @kenetic-nf8jq
    @kenetic-nf8jq 4 дня назад

    I think that not being able to save in platformer levels is more artificial difficulty because you may be able to beat the level just can't because of time constraints

  • @fivr.
    @fivr. 4 дня назад

    how does it affect the difficulty of platformer levels in any way? doing the same thing was still possible before if you left your pc on and stayed in the same level, if anything this just removes the need to keep ur pc on overnight

  • @Jack-px5tb
    @Jack-px5tb 4 дня назад

    I think that the creator could put some special checkpoint that save the level instead of just respawning at the place you where beafore, so They could decide depending on the level. That is just an idea

  • @puppbox
    @puppbox 4 дня назад +2

    Time to make geometry dash in geometry dash🔥🔥🔥

  • @dreamsdicc1817
    @dreamsdicc1817 4 дня назад

    This is just straight cheating. If someone spends 8 hours straight to beat a level and then this mod comes along and now people can beat the same level but can take their time on it. No stress involved and no patience involved.
    I think when robtop says he'll add a save progress option, it is an option to add it to your level. It is up to the creator to add it

  • @sonjaholman
    @sonjaholman 4 дня назад +1

    This mod just makes it like a certain game where you can save and exit and it would pick up where it left off last time you played it. I honestly don't see anything wrong with that!

  • @michaelbocanegra1210
    @michaelbocanegra1210 Час назад

    It should be similar to ldm an option to turn it on if you want it. Or maybe a trigger to put in a level to activate it before you play the level.

  • @thedetect1ve
    @thedetect1ve 4 дня назад

    I would definitely play platformers more with this addition because I find it hard to do it all in one sitting

  • @BanefulOtter
    @BanefulOtter 4 дня назад

    1. How does this mod affect the game? ~ An analogy I can think of off the top of my head is the new DOOM games and the Ultra Nightmare difficulty (hardest difficulty + no deaths or save gets deleted, maybe extra life mode from Eternal is a better comparison). If we say that the way GD currently works is like Ultra Nightmare, then the checkpoint to savepoint mod is removing the hardest part of the challenge, the "no death" (or in this case, no leaving the level) and making the difficulty go down to Nightmare. Sure, the actual difficulty of the level hasn't changed, but the added nerves from the "no death" (no exiting the level) makes it feel much more difficult.
    2. Is this cheating? ~ Yes.
    3. My thoughts? ~ I won't use this mod. I think it present far too much of an unfair advantage that the entire community is unable to use. I feel the same way about CBF.

  • @Rylika
    @Rylika 4 дня назад

    Tried to beat how to platformer for the first time--> left game over night at 1800+ --> was near impossible to complete not due to skill issue but rather a technical one that somehow my normal fps of 240 was a fluctuation mess of 35-50 that made precision jumps impossible with 0 to 28ms of input lag. Failed 1 room for 15 minutes and wanted to see a simple macro can get through it and it couldn't
    Most mad I ever been in a platformer level. Being able to restart the game to get my fps back or any other reason I couldn't complete it in 1 sitting for sure will be nice
    If I had CBF or checkpoint saving I wouldn't care about these technical issues. The fact it happened and FORCED to restart is just disgusting

  • @PatN777
    @PatN777 4 дня назад

    What levels did you use for the background of the video

  • @dndvirus
    @dndvirus 4 дня назад

    I feel like this doesn’t really change much. You can already just pause and come back to the level while keeping your computer on. Unless I’m mistaken, all it really does is allow you use your computer in other ways during that time. Maybe I’m wrong though

  • @deepintermission
    @deepintermission 3 дня назад

    My only concern is savescumming but that doesn't seem to be possible with the mod, so yeah I think it's totally allowable.
    Peoples arguments against it other than not being endorsed (just like the 100 megahack features that player probably also uses) usually just boil down to "it makes How To Platformer easy" and I have a problem with that argument. First off, how to platformer is still difficult, it still has tons of hard rooms near the end, just with some easier ones at the start to bloat it to the milestone room count. Second, if being able to return to a level later makes a level easier thats a problem with the level, not with saving. I doubt it's a controversial opinion to say that how to platformer is not a good example of "good level design", there is a reason it's not extreme demon anymore and that it's only star rated.

  • @ReeeMonke
    @ReeeMonke 2 дня назад

    How do you use it anyway? I cant save , i always need to start a new game.

  • @meraak1
    @meraak1 4 дня назад

    the problem lies in that people are using way too many checkpoints in their levels and making them too long. theres a reason why mario maker only lets you have two checkpoints, it is simply better

  • @zappingspaghetti8231
    @zappingspaghetti8231 2 дня назад

    I think creators should be able to decide qhether you can do this with their levels

  • @zander12
    @zander12 3 дня назад

    As long as RobTop isn't opposed to it, I don't see how this is a problem. And if RobTop is planning to add it himself in the future, then having some people have sort of early access to this is just kinda whatever to me.

  • @marcus549
    @marcus549 4 дня назад

    I don’t agree with the idea that “we are used to starting over”. I’ve beaten really hard levels in classic mode and a nice part of classic is that you can go play for just 10 min, you can just play however long you like. You never put away your schedule for 5-10 hours. Still I’d say platformer mode is quite a bit easier in general than classic mode for all difficulty levels(non-demons all the way to extreme demons).

  • @Debbles00
    @Debbles00 4 дня назад +1

    Its 100% cheating, part of the difficulty of the abyss, how to platformer and the tower xxii is the lenght of the level. If this isn't cheating, pause buffering isn't cheating as well

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

  • @ReeeMonke
    @ReeeMonke 2 дня назад

    When this gets added to the main game, I would consider it cheating if robtop added an option to disable to for creators and if it disabled for that level.

  • @JohnMugs
    @JohnMugs 4 дня назад

    this needs to be added to the actual game as it would expand platformer mode immensely, though it should be up to the creator to decide if the level is supposed to be completed all in one go!

  • @redour-rs
    @redour-rs 4 дня назад +1

    according to robtop, only levels that allow save on exit should have this feature, and not any level in the game, so yes its cheating

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      but then again, this is just a replacement for keeping your game open over night. And most people don’t want to waste their electricity bill.

    • @redour-rs
      @redour-rs 4 дня назад

      @@discussions. yeah thats why i dont care about whether or not its legit and am using it anyway, im trying to have fun playing geometry dash and not keeping my mind focused at whether or not a completion is legit or not

  • @MoustafaAbdelghani-gb1lw
    @MoustafaAbdelghani-gb1lw 4 дня назад

    If robtop is gonna add this, i hope it will only in practice mode

  • @That_One_Guy_On_The_Internet
    @That_One_Guy_On_The_Internet 3 дня назад

    the sad thing about this is that its the exact same. stay afk all night or don’t. No difference whatsoever, it’s kind of opinionated but people’s game crash a lot, might be useful for them

  • @marcus549
    @marcus549 4 дня назад

    Ok imma be the one to say it. Save points being added doesn’t affect the difficulty in any way at all. Like what? It changes the gameplay in 0 ways and anyone thinking “aw man that was a terrible experience since I couldn’t leave” does not make the level hard. If a player does it in one day or two days doesn’t matter since they played the same amount of time. Also the player can just leave the game on, is leaving a game on over night difficult? oH iTs NoT aS iMpReSsIvE iF yOu ToOk A bReAK. Anyway difficulty should not come from length. If you want your long level to be hard just make it difficult. Use more skill not more of your freetime.

  • @justanormalpork
    @justanormalpork 4 дня назад

    Why tf did i think it was a ddogd video the moment i saw the thumbnail😭. I got so confused at the beginning

  • @BcraftLittleMan
    @BcraftLittleMan 4 дня назад

    I don't think it's cheating because robtop was planning to add this feature in the future, but I also understand why people think it would be cheating because of levels like how to platformer.

  • @MatheusKrolov
    @MatheusKrolov 4 дня назад

    Honestly, I don't think that mod is cheating, since most platformers are long enough for people having to beat them in like 4 useful days. I work day and night and had to keep my PC on just to beat How To Platformer in 3 days playing a little bit per day, which is annoying asf. Insane and extreme platformer demons are way funnier with a mod like this in my opinion, because you can actually play the levels and do your chores when you need to. Not everyone in the game is a streamer or a kid who either does play games the entire day or don't need to worry about external things. This mod makes it fair for everyone imo.

  • @lawgd23
    @lawgd23 4 дня назад

    If RobTop directly approves of it/adds it to the game, then it should be allowed. Whenever game devs approve of something (consensually of course), it shouldn't be a problem.

  • @user-ym3cw3dx6k
    @user-ym3cw3dx6k 4 дня назад

    Wavix do that one guy's idea about Zoink having a heart attack with SpaceUK taking over coming back without hacks and verifies a top 1 with Cherryteam's help.
    I will subscribe

  • @speedofram1458
    @speedofram1458 3 дня назад +1

    day 15 of asking wavix to do this: What if Zoink had a heart attack and died, causing Spaceuk to return to the community with no hacks. Then, with the help of cherry team, space verifies bloodlust 2 and becomes immortalized as the verifier. Alternatively, you could just have Zoink dying from a heart attack.

  • @Sshakeantigeometrydash
    @Sshakeantigeometrydash 4 дня назад +2

    No full stop

  • @CubeXC
    @CubeXC 4 дня назад

    Robtop will not add platformer save for any checkpoint, he will add different checkpoints that them will save

  • @adrian.play.geomdash_badly
    @adrian.play.geomdash_badly 4 дня назад

    imo its legit but if its ruled as hacked on any lists/gddps its understandable idk

  • @Zeirous
    @Zeirous 4 дня назад

    Exactly well explained, it is cheating but at the end of the day it doesn't matter if you don't care about top plays or leaderboards but and as long as you said that you used this mod that's fine because it is an advantage.

  • @Naksug_1
    @Naksug_1 4 дня назад +1

    What is that 1st lvl?

  • @TimothyLucero-mi2dw
    @TimothyLucero-mi2dw 4 дня назад

    It's not cheating, mfs who spend hours on a singular level and get mad that a simple game mechanic is added is beyond me. Now for speed runs or whatever, it's simple just don't allow it, like how minecraft speed runners do it. Also, some people act like the entire community cares about difficultly.

  • @hmptr1
    @hmptr1 4 дня назад

    i mean, robtop will be adding the same feature, so maybe not?

  • @_baconality_
    @_baconality_ 4 дня назад

    it is obvious actually. the creator of the level should have the option to save the game when leaving. consider the roblox obby community, specifically jtoh, or juke's towers of hell, where it's 10 floors of hard roblox obbies, if you could leave halfway through, that defeats the whole purpose of when you fall.

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      no it wouldn’t?? If you could leave halfway through, it would just spawn you at the last checkpoint (or where you were standing), or if you were falling, make your restart from the beginning.

  • @Cosmin27383
    @Cosmin27383 4 дня назад

    Holy i just realized that zoink verified half of the top 10 (aka Tidal Wave, Acheron, Avernus, Tunnel of Despair and Kokmok).
    My man's totally a bot

  • @SoundScore7724
    @SoundScore7724 4 дня назад

    NO WAY BRO'S CLICK PATTERN IS THE EXACT SAME AS MINE EVERYWHERE

  • @tristangamerau5233
    @tristangamerau5233 4 дня назад +1

    I was for cbf but this one might be a little to much of a game changer

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something 4 дня назад

    Objectively it is cheating, even though robtop did say that he will very likely add it there’s always a chance he changes opinion or smth, and besides, is it cheating because it currently makes many levels free (how to platformer), since basically 100% of the challenge is doing it in “one” run, I think this is too far, click between frames is cheating but I personally think that’s fine, since it doesn’t stride as far as this does.

    • @IzzyTheOwl
      @IzzyTheOwl 4 дня назад

      it's not free!!!! have you even played the harder rooms?

  • @Lev_DarkGerman
    @Lev_DarkGerman 4 дня назад

    I honestly think it should be used, but only in practice mode, i think that using it in normal mode to beat levels is really cheating. But using it to practice the level in practice mod should be insane.

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

  • @NathanGamingGD
    @NathanGamingGD 4 дня назад

    Someone: Makes a cool mod
    Community: Drama

  • @SnowyOwl369
    @SnowyOwl369 4 дня назад

    I first thought it was cheating but it's not really, you already beat part of the level and you can just beat the rest later instead of beating it all over again.

  • @absurdgd7358
    @absurdgd7358 4 дня назад

    Imo you can use it to practice but not for completions

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

  • @justawhisp4160
    @justawhisp4160 4 дня назад +5

    so people want top 1s to be endurance tests over the course of multiple days instead of actually interesting and difficult levels?

    • @skyborn2596
      @skyborn2596 4 дня назад +1

      consider: interesting and difficult level that is also a test of endurance. endurance based and interesting are not mutually exclusive

    • @justawhisp4160
      @justawhisp4160 4 дня назад

      @@skyborn2596 I understand your point but there's a big difference between types of endurance. In my opinion, the fun one is the one which has a long amount of time without checkpoints. The endurance of many checkpoints over the course of a level that is way too long isn't skill but patience. It's just slogging through a whole level just to not even be excited when getting to the end. I don't personally find that very fun.

  • @Debbles00
    @Debbles00 4 дня назад

    Don should change his title for upcoming top 20 ☠️

  • @philbon_
    @philbon_ 4 дня назад

    I disagree that this is more cheating than CBF because, the mod does something achievable in the game by simply letting the level opened while CBF isn’t something you can do vanilla.

  • @Qdache85
    @Qdache85 4 дня назад

    i got so jumpscared by the BBYE

  • @SyncronedStuff
    @SyncronedStuff 4 дня назад

    I said that once, and I'll say it again, no matter how hard I'll get flamed for this.
    This mod is straight up cheating. Not even having some leeway like cbf, this mod straight up allows you to interrupt your session and continue it later. And unless you stay in the same session, aka. Not leaving the level, this mod circumvents vanilla restrictions. And realistically you won't leave your PC open for hours while you're away somewhere else.
    And yes, Rob said It'd be a good idea to implement and that he'll eventually do it, but we're in the present right now, not in the future.

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      Like you said, this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

  • @madeline_from_celeste_real
    @madeline_from_celeste_real 4 дня назад

    It does not change the gameplay. You can do the exact same thing in vanilla by leaving the game open. How is it cheating?

  • @Romantical-
    @Romantical- 4 дня назад

    nah it would be the same as a quicksave right?

  • @jgalfredo2710
    @jgalfredo2710 4 дня назад

    For those who think this is cheating, would you say top celeste and iwbtg players, where in those games you can save your progress in every checkpoint, are cheaters?

  • @Elfilinfan
    @Elfilinfan 4 дня назад

    Can't wait for the Guwude controversy

  • @blackhoggaming
    @blackhoggaming 4 дня назад

    I’d say this mod falls more under “quality of life” like startpos switcher and stuff like that

    • @tristangamerau5233
      @tristangamerau5233 4 дня назад

      I disagree as it nukes top platformer level difficulties

    • @ruthkatz1998
      @ruthkatz1998 4 дня назад

      @@tristangamerau5233 how

    • @tristangamerau5233
      @tristangamerau5233 4 дня назад

      Having multiple sessions to beat a level instead of only 1 would make it much easier

    • @ruthkatz1998
      @ruthkatz1998 4 дня назад

      @@tristangamerau5233 how tho

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      @@tristangamerau5233 this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges. And plus, if the level is hard, the level is hard. If you got to the save point, you are obviously skilled enough to be there and don’t need to do it again. how to platformer’s later levels are hard and this mod doesn’t make them free because you still need to do it legit.

  • @kittygamimg5221
    @kittygamimg5221 4 дня назад

    Bro fr reused his old subscribe animation so it says he has 32k wow lol

  • @Palemis
    @Palemis 4 дня назад

    Yeah it's cheating, it's like saying beating a level in practice mode should count as an actual completion

  • @elec06YT
    @elec06YT 3 дня назад

    It’s not cheating because you can do the exact same thing by leaving your pc on, this just makes it less of a pain in the ass

  • @pengwino828
    @pengwino828 4 дня назад

    It’s definitely cheating, even if we don’t want it to be. You’re removing a major aspect of the difficulty with a modification (cannot be compared to most other mods we use because it applied to anyone on any device). I also suspect that robtop will have checkpoints that save between attempts as a separate feature to the current checkpoints, in which case it would be straight up changing the game.

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      this is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.
      And to replace this behaviour in the vanilla game, you can just open a new instance of GD. But mobile devices can’t do that.

  • @ruthkatz1998
    @ruthkatz1998 4 дня назад

    weve come so far as a game that not playing is seen as cheating. god bless it

  • @mashkus1099
    @mashkus1099 4 дня назад

    I think it’s cheating personally. I got to the last 100 rooms on how to platformer and gave up cuz i wanted to play regular Gd again. I would play the level again if it just set me back to where i was and would beat like 1 room per day

    • @discussions.
      @discussions. 4 дня назад

      You say it’s cheating and then say you would like to use it? This is just a replacement for keeping your computer on overnight. But, not everyone has the money to waste keeping their pc on overnight. People should focus on making their levels fun instead of a tedious gauntlet of challenges.

    • @mashkus1099
      @mashkus1099 4 дня назад

      @@discussions. of course i would like to use it. It would make platformer so much easier

  • @kingrgames
    @kingrgames 4 дня назад +4

    I dont think it would be cheating if RibTop is adding it himself.
    Same could be said if you were playing 2.2 Beta.