How can someone be so giving? You do this very difficult thing but in a very simple logical way, this is magical. Also the analogy of listening to nature is spot on. Thank you very much.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thank you. and does the provisional channel need to reach the line where the rip is located? Considering the width of the presente(temporary) edge is 3.5mm, could you advise how many mm away the provisional channel should reach from the end of edge? I'm sorry to ask you such a trivial question..
do you know how a person can purchase that plane that your friend makes. fantastic presentation. i am about to start my first violin. i am looking forward to the journey. thanks again for all this wonderful information and your methodology
If the plaster cast would have had the correct inside of the original plate, the sound post would have made a cavity causing a lower pitch on the same place where the outside have a higher pitch?
Yes, I guess so, but that is a retoric question. Theoreticly a deformed instrument could retain its best qualities by being reshaped into what once were the original arch, where in- and outside arches are "in tune". However, PLEASE DO NOT RESHAPE ANY OLD INSTRUMENTS!!!
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thanks for the answer and for sharing of your work. I've seen all your parts concerning violin no 400 and made my own "Kursanteckningar". I think your method is quite outstanding. It works even for me but sometimes I get confused and I am scared of planing too much.
Hi Peter, can you chose very high arching like 17 or more and make the same tunning proces? i hope i did not miss anything but the arching hight you did soemhow chose isnt it? Thank you for very inspiring videos.
Well, I am not the almighty guru of this method, but as I see it, the model and the wood characteristics calls for a set height. I have come up with a slightly higher arch on some pieces of wood but as I sort of look for a specific kind of wood, it comes back into the same heights.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thank you. Would be interesting how you came across that process. As you know it is very different from what is everywhere around.
@@katarinaprzybylo2335 I've experimented with using the method with a starting height of around 18mm or so, and the result was modestly successful. I noticed that the upper and lower bouts seemed "disconnected" from each other. The final instrument plays well and has an appealing tone, but lacks the overpowering low-end of really excellent instruments like the one made in this video series. However, it's unclear to me whether the arch height was the make-or break aspect of my instrument. It's only my second instrument, and there's a lot of other possible contributing factors that make it hard to guess
The arching height is set by listening along the straight surface. What most people has difficulties to understand, is the amount of wood they take off when they come close to the final surface. It pays off to be very exact and go slow. Always be 100 % sure where to take off material.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 I've done this with my next instrument, I'm looking forward to seeing the results. Thank you so much for the many videos you've made! I may not have chosen to begin building violins without them
You tune to equal pitch the outer surface of the back when its inner side is flat, than hollow the inner side and start the whole tuning process from the beginning. Why is it important to tune the outer side when the inner is still flat? Why isn't enough to do the tuning process only at the inner side?
Well... This is how I do it. I don´t have the scientific answer to it, but as I see it, it is easier to understand if you exaggerate the matter. Should the sound be good if one side is perfectly tuned and the other had a very bumpy surface with heavy thick lumps and some very scooped holes?
Hello Peter! I am now making my second violin and I am using your method. I am making a ''cannone'' and I was trying to establish the height of the arches. I was somehow anxious because at the top it drove me at 14.10 and at back at 13.95 and still not totally sure I am there . Quiet low I think. Has it ever happened to you to take it so low?
I am with you that it is low. However it is a matter of experience. The "Dégville" is very low at about 12 - 13 mm, so it may be possible. Check again for some times to be sure.
I understand what you mean about the (I refer to them as 👉🏼👉🏼 upper crust of distinguished artisan type violin makers).....they mingle in with the scholarly, educated culture and the money hungry greedy types too. I feel like they are snobby. It's a tangled web. In other areas and crafts too. There is a politic in the violin music arena. Takes away from the simplicity, beauty, mystery and pure enjoyment of the balm of music by a beautiful instrument....personally, I believe it's inspired by God, the creator of all life. Amen.
“Just be a good pupil and do what nature tells you.” The most reasonable explanation. Very profound.
How can someone be so giving? You do this very difficult thing but in a very simple logical way, this is magical. Also the analogy of listening to nature is spot on. Thank you very much.
Thanks so much for sharing. Wow. How generous you are!
Thanks! I have a lot of fun doing it.
Nice work! generally how much is the depth(or thickness) of the provisional channel?
As close to the final depth as you dare.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thank you. and does the provisional channel need to reach the line where the rip is located? Considering the width of the presente(temporary) edge is 3.5mm, could you advise how many mm away the provisional channel should reach from the end of edge? I'm sorry to ask you such a trivial question..
@@delgesu230 I mark a line which follows the edge about one mm inside the rib outline. Then I use that line as an outer limit of the channel.
Just. excellent presentation
Thanks!
do you know how a person can purchase that plane that your friend makes. fantastic presentation. i am about to start my first violin. i am looking forward to the journey. thanks again for all this wonderful information and your methodology
You can ask Tommy at info@violin.se
Thanks for your kind words.
If the plaster cast would have had the correct inside of the original plate, the sound post would have made a cavity causing a lower pitch on the same place where the outside have a higher pitch?
Yes, I guess so, but that is a retoric question. Theoreticly a deformed instrument could retain its best qualities by being reshaped into what once were the original arch, where in- and outside arches are "in tune". However, PLEASE DO NOT RESHAPE ANY OLD INSTRUMENTS!!!
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thanks for the answer and for sharing of your work. I've seen all your parts concerning violin no 400 and made my own "Kursanteckningar". I think your method is quite outstanding. It works even for me but sometimes I get confused and I am scared of planing too much.
Hi Peter, can you chose very high arching like 17 or more and make the same tunning proces? i hope i did not miss anything but the arching hight you did soemhow chose isnt it?
Thank you for very inspiring videos.
Well, I am not the almighty guru of this method, but as I see it, the model and the wood characteristics calls for a set height. I have come up with a slightly higher arch on some pieces of wood but as I sort of look for a specific kind of wood, it comes back into the same heights.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 Thank you. Would be interesting how you came across that process. As you know it is very different from what is everywhere around.
@@katarinaprzybylo2335 I've experimented with using the method with a starting height of around 18mm or so, and the result was modestly successful. I noticed that the upper and lower bouts seemed "disconnected" from each other. The final instrument plays well and has an appealing tone, but lacks the overpowering low-end of really excellent instruments like the one made in this video series. However, it's unclear to me whether the arch height was the make-or break aspect of my instrument. It's only my second instrument, and there's a lot of other possible contributing factors that make it hard to guess
The arching height is set by listening along the straight surface. What most people has difficulties to understand, is the amount of wood they take off when they come close to the final surface. It pays off to be very exact and go slow. Always be 100 % sure where to take off material.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 I've done this with my next instrument, I'm looking forward to seeing the results. Thank you so much for the many videos you've made! I may not have chosen to begin building violins without them
You tune to equal pitch the outer surface of the back when its inner side is flat, than hollow the inner side and start the whole tuning process from the beginning. Why is it important to tune the outer side when the inner is still flat? Why isn't enough to do the tuning process only at the inner side?
Well... This is how I do it.
I don´t have the scientific answer to it, but as I see it, it is easier to understand if you exaggerate the matter. Should the sound be good if one side is perfectly tuned and the other had a very bumpy surface with heavy thick lumps and some very scooped holes?
Hello Peter!
I am now making my second violin and I am using your method. I am making a ''cannone'' and I was trying to establish the height of the arches. I was somehow anxious because at the top it drove me at 14.10 and at back at 13.95 and still not totally sure I am there . Quiet low I think. Has it ever happened to you to take it so low?
I am with you that it is low. However it is a matter of experience.
The "Dégville" is very low at about 12 - 13 mm, so it may be possible.
Check again for some times to be sure.
@@westerlundsviolinverkstada9892 thank you very much for your answer Peter!
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I understand what you mean about the (I refer to them as 👉🏼👉🏼 upper crust of distinguished artisan type violin makers).....they mingle in with the scholarly, educated culture and the money hungry greedy types too. I feel like they are snobby. It's a tangled web. In other areas and crafts too. There is a politic in the violin music arena. Takes away from the simplicity, beauty, mystery and pure enjoyment of the balm of music by a beautiful instrument....personally, I believe it's inspired by God, the creator of all life. Amen.
Ok, lets agree to disagree.