I like Herc's attitude towards Jason: "Maybe it’s true that he was a hopelessly arrogant fool who did not know his place, but even so ... he was my friend." “That man lost everything.” I heard that he disappeared under the corpse of the ship, where we shared joys and tribulations ... although this could be a genuine act of mercy from that changeable little ship.
And here is the fun part,Herc is ready to do anything to win the Fake HGW but if his Master ever insulting Jason,Herc will break everything in his Master body and them kill him,becase in Herc eye Jason was the most Human.
For a meme, he's quite well written and endearing, especially his sympathetic bond CE lore. "Here lies the end of my dream. The remnants of my dream. I wanted to become a king. I wanted to be praised as an excellent king. For that sake, even though I felt no fondness for such actions, I contacted a woman, whispered sweet nothings to her, and committed a slightest bit of evil. No, well, one could argue whether it was truly just a small evil or not. ...I cut ties with that woman, and she was slain as a witch. Even though I tried to do the right thing, it seems like I did it the wrong way. Somehow, it seems like they saw that as a punishment. Ah, damn it... Next time, i'll- ...There won't be a next time, huh... ...Give me another chance! Next time I'll properly, seriously, carefully, correctly... do it! I'll do it! I'll show you! Goddamn it..."
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 His real cause of death is indeed being crushed by his own ship, but he tried to hung himself before that. Well, the Fate version that is. It's in his bond 3 info. "Having lost his status, his honor, his everything, Jason hung himself on the stern of the Argo, and the moment he did so, it collapsed, crushing him to death."
@@StarforceSF Jason: but I should be in the second archive chilling. Dw: no you will be innthe front for people who don't have Nero or shiki Jason:NOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
@King of Light well you know how medea was before and after so hers ks diffrent. Herc is nice so he probably just did it and atalante im not sure. Either way. Jason got a nice team set up. Herc for st damage. Medea for heals and atalante for aoe and crit stars
ivanbluecool DW: We also made your NP easy to spam. No more "Arash can't kill Lancer hands" problem! Jason: BUT THAT MEANS THE ARGONAUTS WILL TRY TO KILL ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN. NOOOOOOOOO!!!
i like that in a certain way, Jason is similar to us masters we started out weak, but as the time passes, we collected more and more heroes and able to commands them but we're only a human, we'd probably die in one hit if a servant attacked us, if we were a servant, our stats would be lower than a 1 star servant, that's why on his final bond line, both Jason and us are commanders there're no replacement for us masters, so to survive as a top-priority, is a lesson that we must learn from him
I think the line at 1:58 really resonates with a lot of us. Most of us I think never really end up becoming a "somebody". Just another existence who lives in pain and boredom who is powerless to change our fate. He said that "gathering of the crew was the greatest event in my life" and this reflects to the moment when we pulled our favourite servant from the gacha and adding it to our Chaldea (ship). That ecstasy is one of the moments where we truly feel alive and I do consider it as one of the best moments of my live. So yeah Jason, I do think the same too. I don't really agree with everything you said or did, but I do understand that fact clearly.
@@wyveriusblackfire3834 Hahaha give this fellow a medal! Aside from spouting greeting card messages, Gudao's only good quality is assembling a force that somehow saved the world!
Jason-"Don't trust shiny stuff with big promises from the Gods. That type of stuff always meant bad news in Ancient Greece." *Paris staring at Golden Apple he won after literally starting a war to get a girl* Paris-"*sniffles* Tell me about it."
@King of Light Servants can have multiple classes. DW wil probably give us Rider Jason someday. And he doesn't have stats that bad, he has B in Endurance and B+ in Agility. His C in Strenght isn't the worst either.
@King of Light is that a fact? I'd think all their allies do is in his NP (and that's why it's EX). Atalante is biased, and either way she is comparing him to other legendary warriors, he is obviously stronger than the likes of Hans or Shakespeare, statswise.
I feel sorry for Jason, i know DW added him as a mere joke, but i dont think he deserves all the hate he gets. Mans got through a lot of shit in his life
nah , he deserves that. The truth is that most of the stuff in his adventures were resolved by others and his primary actions are tricking a princess and discarted her afterwards.
PhantasosX Games it's not like he planned to do that. It was the gods who decided to bewitch Medea and make her fall in love with him, he married her because she asked him to marry her and then she murdered her brother for him under the flag of peace. It's no wonder that Jason got creeped out by his wife murdering her brother and opted out
The line where he talked about medea lily makes me felt sympathetic towards him as he know what done was wrong and wish to continue with medea but he as well was manipulated.
well he is not manipulated medea is, history wise medea is put under a charm to fall in love by the goddess aphrodisiac by goddess hera as hera is fond of jason for some reason. Medea at that time literally willing to do anything for jason at time even killing his own brother n take the throne of his country for jason. However the charm broke away when jason decide to broke up with her as he sworn before thus lossing the favor of the goddess.
His bond 4 and 5 line. Maybe I'm just reading into it too much but, since it is the Greek Lostbelt, we can assume that Zeus, Poseidon and Hades may appear, and the datamine we found is that Jason becomes more fiercer, courageous and quick witted the more he is backed into a corner. Then there is also that he started in a very unfavorable position when we arrive at the Lostbelt. Is it possible that Jason will sacrifice himself to save Gudao/ko and Co. to escape after being pursued by 4 divine servants, only for the Argonauts to join him at his last stand, becoming the equivalent Of Spartacus in Lostbelt 3?
@@Kaxaiak with Jason as the MVP for pretty much leading everybody, even a Grand Servant and you, despite the odds against him and even able to deduce stuff that took Orion lots of trial and error to work.
It's an exchange. Gold servants can be good without any limit break. But bronze and silver is weak when you won't grail them. Even when you grail bronze servant, they still pretty fragile
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 You don't need to grail the good bronze servants: Taunt baits #1 and #2 are fine at Lv. 1, STELLAAAA and Masaka Masaka man are both really good even without grails, and Hans is a budget meme
He's basically Kazuma but if he had much darker depth. His bond CE explains that he actually cares for Medea and wanted to make amends, yet can't due to his status as a servant. It's also implied that the bond CE is also his will from when he hung himself on the Argo right before it crashed (Bond 3 information.) For what's basically just a meme character, he actually has a pretty sad backstory underneath the hilarity.
Great, now I'm imagining a Konosuba collab event with Kazuma and his teammates as Servants (with Kazuma as the welfare, naturally). That would be hilarious, if only for the sheer amount of memery. Besides, we need something to wait for the next GUDAGUDA. If anything, I think Megumin would get along with Nobu really well LMAO
@@toony1232 Oooooh, I see now, how silly of me. Sorry, my bad 😅 But my point is that I think we can all agree that if they were to make a Konosuba collab, it would be on par with GUDAGUDA in terms of memery and jokes 😂😂😂 [EDIT] Fixed my initial reply, but I'm leaving this for posterity
I mean...the only reason he dumped her was because he was scared of her after she murdered her own brother. And the only reason she murdered her brother was because she was in mad love with Jason because of a curse put on her by Aphrodite...all in thanks to Jason. He then once again uses Medea (still under aphrodites influence) to kill the king that sent Jason on his quest for the golden fleece giving Jason the throne. (Not justifying what Medea does afterwards but her reputation was completely ruined and I wouldn't blame her if she was somewhat scarred.) I still find Jason an interesting servant though but...he was a douche. Sorry for the long ass comment.
N M It’s Greek Mythology, everything is the gods’ fault. But that doesn’t mean Medea cutting up her brother wasn’t creepy enough for Jason to understandably ditch her.
You know this Jason is very likeable and his Bond Level 5 does make sense in general. And yep, he really has a point about Medea Lily, I even dont want her if I knew that she does those thing. Jason was right to abandoned her. Hell, I would do the same as well if it was not for the God.
Strange enough i don't hate him that much same as shinji non hf and cant wait to see if jason will have a fight with mini jason same as cu alter vs mini cu alter. That will be legendary. Also orion vs army of Artemis
... His lines for bond 4 and 5 are... Really good... I mean, he is the only one that isn't "i will die and/or kill for you" but he really knows the value of life, no one is expendable.
Ilya: since i can't beat my enemy gold hair guy. Lets beat this on. Jason: what. Herc:AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH(Nice to know we will be on the same side fighting side by side) Jason:HEEELLLLPPP greek servants: no
Cu:(shows respect to another dealing with hercs "playtime") Kirie:let's play catch with our dog carren. Carren: i got the electric charged ball ready. Cu:(heavy breathing as he wants to play catch)
@@RagnaCloud13 Gil and emiya: we are archers and throw swords. Merlin:I got a sword and a caster. Mhx:SEIBA(assassin) Mhxa:SEIBA(eats cookie) Saber: nevermind
From reading up on Greek lore, I think it's safe to say that Aphrodite is basically Greek Ishtar. She starts all kinds of shit with everyone else just cuz she doesn't like how they don't care for her :/
Not wrong that survival is the most important thing for commander since if commander falls there's a big chance that the group/army would break apart so commander should be a coward is also not wrong at least for me
@alvi syahri More like people love her because she's cute even though she literally killed lots of KoRT and Arthuria by herself not to mention how Nash build her character is still controversial. If Nash made her a man, he would be so much hated
@@decoy9854 Jason as far as I remember didn't do anything actually remarkable as a asshole in Okeanos. Jason shitting Medea is logical, she literally mutilated her brother when nobody told her to, practices dark magic with Hecate, and even killing her own son when Jason left her. After all what you've seen in FSN, how do you think Medea is a good person? She's not, both in myth and Fate. Even Kuzuki didn't put trust in her
I love characters like this guy the most. The type that you really, really want to hate (and for a good reason), but a part of you will always say "Nah, this guy can be pretty cool.".
I want a parallel where Shirou Emiya summoned Jason, and instantly get that bond lvl 5 preach. Jason should be paired with the borderline suicidals altruistic masters, he'll keep them alive.
6:04 Jason:"If it's boxing , I recommend Pollux to you." *looks at image of Pollux from Lostbelt 5* Really? How the hell can she do boxing with her build? She looks like she barely weighs 40 kg and her arms have the thickness of twigs.
@@thehighwayman3122 Castor isn't a demi-god but most versions of their myth have Pollux and Castor take turns sharing their immortality (weird I know).
@@thewildcard3116 Oh, I know. Castor was a horseman and Pollux was a boxer. I was just pointing out that just because she may look like a scarecrow, doesn't mean you should underestimate a child of Zeus. After all, look at Heracles.
@@thehighwayman3122 Ah no I understood that point from your comment I was just pointing out the fact that they both are technically immortal. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Also hell yeah a child of Zeus shouldn't be underestimated. If only we could have Perseus and Pollux in the game so them and Heracles could have a weird step sibling family reunion.
Bacially Jesus Yamato without beam spam and the Freedom and Coordinator powers and the Freedom and Lacus and Athrun and beam spam and Strike Freedom and -- Did i mention the beam spam?
Jason: am I a joke to you? Medea Lily, Atalanta and Herakles: *YES!!!* Add: YES YES YES YES... *YES!!!!* (Meanwhile, Chin Shih Huang, Sanson joins force with Goetia to take Pancake Jason down.)
Oghum Inf Technically we already have that Kirei Servant in Rasputin, he's just yet to become summonable. If it wasn't for Da Vinci Lily this anniversary it probably would've been him, next year it's probably him. That said the question is: Fate/Stay Night-verse Shinji or Extra-Shinji? If Extra-verse that'll probably have to wait until the next Extra-based event, but I doubt that since that's probably when we'll get Archimedes, both Charlemagnes, Violet, and Kazuradrop. With the slight chance we may get Hakuno Kishinami as a Caster or Mooncancer then HAKUNO as an Avenger, with /m a y b e/ the chance they'll bring in the Savior class with Buddha.
@@BulletBillSoilder Kirei is quite likeable than these 2 i think but yea, they all will get their turns. I dont think kirei will come out until lostbelt 5 and pretty sure muramasa emiya will come out first before shinji but this is DW we're talking so dunno man
@@ShinKungFuMan This is kinda funny cuz in Okeanos we're on the same side with a Chaotic Evil person, wich is Drake, against a Lawful Good person, which is Jason
In the mythos, Jason was regarded as a pretty good person. I still remember at one point he was on his way to reclaim his Kingdom, Jason met Hera disguised as a old woman and decided to help her on his back to cross a swamp. He lost his one of his sandals in the process but still carried Hera across the swamp anyways. Another instance of Jason doing good deeds is when they went to find a prophet named Phineas who was plagued by harpies thanks to Zeus. He asked his crew to kill the harpies for him and gave Phineas lots of food. Anyway, the thing is that fgo may have made Jason into a asshole servant who doesn't do anything himself, but Jason was still very kind in his own way in his bond lines.
3:16 just HOW scared is he of her? i mean, sure he feel in love with someone else the least he could have done is just let her down easy, not just run away like a spineless coward
That's the thing...he is a coward lol. He wants all the fame that comes with being a hero but he doesnt want to be on the front lines or even fight himself. Still, it makes him an interesting servant.
I don't think so. Both are strikingly similar in how they hate their own weakness which leads to their rather toxic or pathetic personality but the difference being that Shinji projects it outwards and Jason works on it. Shinji blames and abuses the people he has power over because he wants to be a good mage and not be looked down on by Zouken. Jason on the other hand is aware of his weaknesses and tries to make up for it, he assembles the argonauts to fight the fights he can't, he wants the fame and riches that come with heroism but he can't fight but he still tries.
Is it just me or is his eyes aren't oriented right? His right eye is facing where, presumably, the player is, but his left eye is facing a little bit *too* the left.
Honestly, the best thing a character or person who is like Jason needs is a stern friend imo. Since Okeanos, Orion and a lot of people made excuses for his personality, and I always thought, "if you're a friend and love him, you gotta have the courage to put him in his place or he'll go off the rails, otherwise you're nothing but a sycophant who will be crying your own tears when he either destroys himself or betrays you." Being sad about him won't do jack to help him.
Jason's still an self-important egotistical asshole and a weakling, to be perfectly clear. But he's nowhere near Shinji's level. And, in many ways, he still has basic levels of decency and camaraderie. Both Medeas are still waifus, but even I have to agree that they're not innocent, even when rewired into loving Jason. It's telling that I rightfully see main FSN routes Medea as a villain that I empathize with but not sympathize, and I enjoy her Hollow Ataraxia, Carnival Phantasm, and Emiya-san appearances more, since they focus on her being a waifu for Kuzuki, but don't do anything morally reprehensible for that sake. Still doesn't absolve Jason of his jackassery, though, and I think Jason being portrayed this way is a good thing. He IS rightfully the most dickish of the famous Greek heroes (though Theseus was also in the running. Man, Medea had really bad luck with men till Kuzuki), and only Perseus was devoid of hubris-induced jackassery. With Jason, it's a reminder of how "hero" back then was a marker of someone who performed great deeds, character notwithstanding. Plus, how much of a jackass do you have to be when you lose the favor and protection of HERA. H-E-R-A! The one goddess most heroes tended to be on the wrong side of due to being products of Zeus' inability to keep it in his pants (though strangely, Perseus avoided that and when she met him, she was merely meh towards him). He had one thing over most other heroes and he blew it up so badly. Of all the heroes I can name, his is the most hubris-laded fall.
It is sad that Jason still thinks he was not wrong and how big the evil he committed.He is like a child in an adult‘s body. Yet like the Protagonist he committed evil for the sake of the greater good. He wanted to create a kingdom were everyone is happy. The same happiness we all seek. To feel save, no hunger, no sadness. But the thing is, if he would have at least apologized for the things he has done to others, he would have been forgiven. Only then, in his last days of life, after almost losing everything and everyone he was close, he knew how ‚rich‘ and ‚blessed‘ he was. He had everything yet it was still not enough.
Well you ain't wrong there. Jason did do some pretty dumb things in the Greek Myths, but remember that this guy was tasked to to these things in the first place. Hera tasked him to reclaim the throne in a certain kingdom. Aphrodite made Medea fall in love with Jason to help him in his quest for the Fleece (which ended up in screwing the whole crew as Medea in the myths is honestly insane). And when both he and Medea was kicked out the kingdom after restoring the fleece, they went to a nearby kingdom where the king there notices Jason having relationship issues with Medea and asks if he would marry his daughter (this obviously enrages Medea and she kills him and his new wife). Jason is still a good hero at heart, just that the gods were being assholes and he got a shitty ending despite all his good deed, making him kinda useless to the public eye.
I mean...... Hera got him killed after he was alone, childless, wifeless, bitter and abandoned, by having a part of his rotting Argo ship crash down on him and kill him not sure he'd be pleased by having to go do his own battles, let alone do it with the same ship that was the murder weapon to end him
@@igorlorenc1445 in all fairness, Chiron was basically the teacher of ALL the big shots when it came to Greek heroes; from Achilles to Asclepius, Jason, Perseus, Theseus, Peleus, Ajax and Heracles
and this is supposed to be a hero, a man someone(Medea) deeply had fallen for once how come the Throne choose him as a hero? (if we remove the fact that he is a -Heroic- Spirit, I can like him (but as a character, not as a person)
well, he did gathered one hell of a crew and managed to survive though a lot of adventures with them, taking even the role of a leader even though he was pretty much powerless.
Well he's a hero, he assembled the argonauts and led them on the journey to retrieve the Golden Fleece. Plus most people can more or less agree that it's not exactly his fault, sure he shouldn't have ditched her to marry someone else but she was still pretty fucking crazy so it makes sense why he didn't want to remain married to her.
Me: can we have gilgamesh?
Mom: we have gil at home
Gil at home:
Gil has every noble Phantasm
But this guy is basically a master, uses servants as attacks lmfao
@@anadaere6861 And his NP is basically the three's NP + Atalanta hilariously kicking him on purpose.
Gil at home is kid gil
I'll take it.
He's a better replace of gil i must say
I like how he correctly guesses the nature of the Holy Grail just because he was a Greek Hero. He knows shit like that wont end well... XD
Experience from the Golden Fleece. That shit turn his life upside down
Krescentwolf no such thing as free lunch
Well, maybe he remember what happened in okeanos XD
@@SoNofLighTofMooN that would be spoiler for new players he can be summoned before okeanos.
"The probability of extending my life has risen!"
Chen Gong: "About that..."
Chen Gong: “You may extend into an exploding arrow..”
I like Herc's attitude towards Jason:
"Maybe it’s true that he was a hopelessly arrogant fool who did not know his place, but even so ... he was my friend."
“That man lost everything.” I heard that he disappeared under the corpse of the ship, where we shared joys and tribulations ... although this could be a genuine act of mercy from that changeable little ship.
From fate strange fake
And here is the fun part,Herc is ready to do anything to win the Fake HGW but if his Master ever insulting Jason,Herc will break everything in his Master body and them kill him,becase in Herc eye Jason was the most Human.
@@johncarter1291 Where did that happen?
@@riyadislam3441 in Fate Strange Fake
And on the other hand, you have Jason becoming enraged when Caenis shit talks Herc, so he verbally tears her apart before tag-teaming her with Orion.
For a meme, he's quite well written and endearing, especially his sympathetic bond CE lore.
"Here lies the end of my dream. The remnants of my dream. I wanted to become a king. I wanted to be praised as an excellent king. For that sake, even though I felt no fondness for such actions, I contacted a woman, whispered sweet nothings to her, and committed a slightest bit of evil. No, well, one could argue whether it was truly just a small evil or not.
...I cut ties with that woman, and she was slain as a witch. Even though I tried to do the right thing, it seems like I did it the wrong way. Somehow, it seems like they saw that as a punishment.
Ah, damn it...
Next time, i'll-
...There won't be a next time, huh...
...Give me another chance! Next time I'll properly, seriously, carefully, correctly... do it! I'll do it! I'll show you!
Goddamn it..."
I feel like that's what Fate good at. Giving a sad depth to a character. Turning this memetic joke servant into darker/more serious Kazuma
It is implied that his bond CE lore is his dying thoughts when he hung himself on the Argo after his life falls apart.
@@fabianathallah1748 Jason crushed by a ship wreck and died as a nobody to Greek people
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 His real cause of death is indeed being crushed by his own ship, but he tried to hung himself before that. Well, the Fate version that is. It's in his bond 3 info.
"Having lost his status, his honor, his everything, Jason hung himself on the stern of the Argo, and the moment he did so, it collapsed, crushing him to death."
GODDAMMIT FATE!
Such a hateable asshole becoming such a tragic and likeable and heartwwrenching character in an instant!!!!!
Jason:WHY DO I HAVE TO FIGHT
dw: we made you a fun servant to use.
Jason:WHY
dw: so people can meme about you
@@StarforceSF Jason: but I should be in the second archive chilling.
Dw: no you will be innthe front for people who don't have Nero or shiki
Jason:NOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE
@King of Light well you know how medea was before and after so hers ks diffrent. Herc is nice so he probably just did it and atalante im not sure. Either way. Jason got a nice team set up. Herc for st damage. Medea for heals and atalante for aoe and crit stars
@King of Light I really like it. Jason just makes it better running for his life. Shinji ubw level of survival dodging.
ivanbluecool DW: We also made your NP easy to spam. No more "Arash can't kill Lancer hands" problem!
Jason: BUT THAT MEANS THE ARGONAUTS WILL TRY TO KILL ME OVER AND OVER AGAIN. NOOOOOOOOO!!!
i like that in a certain way, Jason is similar to us masters
we started out weak, but as the time passes, we collected more and more heroes and able to commands them
but we're only a human, we'd probably die in one hit if a servant attacked us, if we were a servant, our stats would be lower than a 1 star servant, that's why on his final bond line, both Jason and us are commanders
there're no replacement for us masters, so to survive as a top-priority, is a lesson that we must learn from him
Fate Protagonists: *yeets themself into danger resulting in whatever caused said danger is now hugging em*
@@peynnep6483
You're not exactly wrong there
Shinji to be exact
In Angra Mainyu profile it did say he was like us so that would make us weaker than jason
I think the line at 1:58 really resonates with a lot of us. Most of us I think never really end up becoming a "somebody". Just another existence who lives in pain and boredom who is powerless to change our fate. He said that "gathering of the crew was the greatest event in my life" and this reflects to the moment when we pulled our favourite servant from the gacha and adding it to our Chaldea (ship). That ecstasy is one of the moments where we truly feel alive and I do consider it as one of the best moments of my live. So yeah Jason, I do think the same too. I don't really agree with everything you said or did, but I do understand that fact clearly.
I mean isn't his final ascension line a pretty accurate descirption of Guda, too?
@@wyveriusblackfire3834 Hahaha give this fellow a medal! Aside from spouting greeting card messages, Gudao's only good quality is assembling a force that somehow saved the world!
Jason-"Don't trust shiny stuff with big promises from the Gods. That type of stuff always meant bad news in Ancient Greece."
*Paris staring at Golden Apple he won after literally starting a war to get a girl*
Paris-"*sniffles* Tell me about it."
Bold of you to assume that París didnt happily trade that Apple for a Big titty Onee Chan
I'm sorry, but his My Room line about Heracles was just Innocent and adorable!
He is Herakles fanboy.
I think somebody said those two got along because jason didnt saw him as a monster as other people did
He knows Herakles as human rather than a beast. Also he knows how powerful can Heracles be in the front lines
Kazuma and Gilgamesh had a love child and named him jason
😂
And Gil probably abandoned him in disappointment
and obviously Gil was the mother cause Kazuma believes in gender equality x'D
@@lynxace1602 Nah man, everyone's a mongrel to Gil lol
Unfortunately, he got Kazuma's martial prowess. But Gil's luck with OP friends. In a manner of speaking, Gil makes up for Kazuma's weakness!
The only thing that make me rather disappoint is they don't add the cloth from okeanos into one of his ascension clothes
I think that Okeanus’ Jason is Jason in the rider class
@King of Light more of a ruler as he never desired the holy grail(as he acquired the golden fleece)
@King of Light Riders are mostly known for their Millitary tactics, though. Wich Jason excels at, btw.
@King of Light Servants can have multiple classes. DW wil probably give us Rider Jason someday.
And he doesn't have stats that bad, he has B in Endurance and B+ in Agility. His C in Strenght isn't the worst either.
@King of Light is that a fact? I'd think all their allies do is in his NP (and that's why it's EX). Atalante is biased, and either way she is comparing him to other legendary warriors, he is obviously stronger than the likes of Hans or Shakespeare, statswise.
I feel sorry for Jason, i know DW added him as a mere joke, but i dont think he deserves all the hate he gets. Mans got through a lot of shit in his life
great character, not so good person :D
nah , he deserves that.
The truth is that most of the stuff in his adventures were resolved by others and his primary actions are tricking a princess and discarted her afterwards.
PhantasosX Games it's not like he planned to do that. It was the gods who decided to bewitch Medea and make her fall in love with him, he married her because she asked him to marry her and then she murdered her brother for him under the flag of peace. It's no wonder that Jason got creeped out by his wife murdering her brother and opted out
all of you will change your mind once you reach lostbelt 5 atlantis .....
@@phantasosxgames8488 The thing is that people solve it because of him. Jason isn't a hero, he is a leader.
Ok, WOW, Jason actually rejected the Grail. Now I'm starting to wonder how he'll react if he was summoned in the FSN Grail War.
I know right. Maybe his experience with the gods is what made him think this way.
One word he will spout
Godammit!
Kinda wanna see his reaction when seeing Medea and Souchirou
Sonia Nevermind he would be like” Hah, she is having an affair too, let’s burn her new husband alive like what she did to my second wife”
Medea , Gil , and Herc are all in that war. He WILL die to one of them it is just a matter of who finds him first
The line where he talked about medea lily makes me felt sympathetic towards him as he know what done was wrong and wish to continue with medea but he as well was manipulated.
It's also really nice knowing that he wasn't in to her being a literal child or teenager.
@@theoddestball2936 yup
@@thanhnghiavo3621 what?
well he is not manipulated medea is, history wise medea is put under a charm to fall in love by the goddess aphrodisiac by goddess hera as hera is fond of jason for some reason. Medea at that time literally willing to do anything for jason at time even killing his own brother n take the throne of his country for jason.
However the charm broke away when jason decide to broke up with her as he sworn before thus lossing the favor of the goddess.
@@calais9140 all of that sht begin with a Thot Goddess,why i'm not supprise.
3:15 the voice actor did a good job here.
That's Kazuma & Sanada Genjiro Yukimura for you
@@ayayaayaya2791 SANADA YUKIMURA
DATE MASEMUNE
Finally someone who knows Sengoku Basara
His bond 4 and 5 line. Maybe I'm just reading into it too much but, since it is the Greek Lostbelt, we can assume that Zeus, Poseidon and Hades may appear, and the datamine we found is that Jason becomes more fiercer, courageous and quick witted the more he is backed into a corner. Then there is also that he started in a very unfavorable position when we arrive at the Lostbelt.
Is it possible that Jason will sacrifice himself to save Gudao/ko and Co. to escape after being pursued by 4 divine servants, only for the Argonauts to join him at his last stand, becoming the equivalent Of Spartacus in Lostbelt 3?
Knowing FGO they will somehow make Jason do something really cool maybe
Welp, you got your wish in LB5.
All of it 😭
Yep. In LB5, Jason proves just how badass he really is
@@_Koyomi_ Everyone proves just how badass they really are in LB5
@@Kaxaiak with Jason as the MVP for pretty much leading everybody, even a Grand Servant and you, despite the odds against him and even able to deduce stuff that took Orion lots of trial and error to work.
4:16 And so began the tale of Jason Giovanna and his Argonaut Experience Requiem.
Ah yes the 1 star saber with a np that is better than most 5 stars
That's FGO, the game where even low stars can shine as long as you set them up right.
It's an exchange. Gold servants can be good without any limit break. But bronze and silver is weak when you won't grail them. Even when you grail bronze servant, they still pretty fragile
Telling about lorewise how he has 3 srs with him and one of them is herc that's a pretty op np
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 You don't need to grail the good bronze servants: Taunt baits #1 and #2 are fine at Lv. 1, STELLAAAA and Masaka Masaka man are both really good even without grails, and Hans is a budget meme
He has Kazuma vibes but his teammates are useful instead of Kazuma 😂😂
He's like Kazuma Alter I think
He's basically Kazuma but if he had much darker depth. His bond CE explains that he actually cares for Medea and wanted to make amends, yet can't due to his status as a servant. It's also implied that the bond CE is also his will from when he hung himself on the Argo right before it crashed (Bond 3 information.) For what's basically just a meme character, he actually has a pretty sad backstory underneath the hilarity.
Great, now I'm imagining a Konosuba collab event with Kazuma and his teammates as Servants (with Kazuma as the welfare, naturally). That would be hilarious, if only for the sheer amount of memery.
Besides, we need something to wait for the next GUDAGUDA. If anything, I think Megumin would get along with Nobu really well LMAO
zach10168 Gudaguda isn't over. The title of GG4 is a Godzilla movie title reference
@@toony1232 Oooooh, I see now, how silly of me. Sorry, my bad 😅
But my point is that I think we can all agree that if they were to make a Konosuba collab, it would be on par with GUDAGUDA in terms of memery and jokes 😂😂😂
[EDIT] Fixed my initial reply, but I'm leaving this for posterity
It makes me laugh because he believes in the power of friendship when he's voiced by Goro Akechi
LB5 really did justice to jason.
Who knows they might do same thing to shinji .
@@someguywithabirdface2583 just not from Stay Night, Extra Shinji was pretty cool too, but not that soofabitch from SN
Can you really blame him for dumping Medea, after what she does?
He may be a jerk, but you can’t blame him for wanting to stay away from her.
I mean...the only reason he dumped her was because he was scared of her after she murdered her own brother.
And the only reason she murdered her brother was because she was in mad love with Jason because of a curse put on her by Aphrodite...all in thanks to Jason. He then once again uses Medea (still under aphrodites influence) to kill the king that sent Jason on his quest for the golden fleece giving Jason the throne.
(Not justifying what Medea does afterwards but her reputation was completely ruined and I wouldn't blame her if she was somewhat scarred.)
I still find Jason an interesting servant though but...he was a douche.
Sorry for the long ass comment.
Yep. Yanderes have that kind of effect.
You know what they say, stay away from the crazy
Ultimately, wasn't it all Aphrodite's fault?
N M It’s Greek Mythology, everything is the gods’ fault. But that doesn’t mean Medea cutting up her brother wasn’t creepy enough for Jason to understandably ditch her.
You know this Jason is very likeable and his Bond Level 5 does make sense in general. And yep, he really has a point about Medea Lily, I even dont want her if I knew that she does those thing. Jason was right to abandoned her. Hell, I would do the same as well if it was not for the God.
@Alvi Syahri She's not really "controlled" though. More like the god put a "curse" on her.
@@day8361 Yeah, Medea had no choice, she was forced by the gods to fall in love with Jason.
I cant unsee that his clothes remind me of DIO
Look at Ozy
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 now i wanna see fanart of Ozy wear Jason's outfit
@@SamerAlter and his voice.
I mean his original name is DIOmedes
@@noelmobius9903 WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!
Jason has beautiful eyes.
Huh? He...was not bad at all,
@King of Light i'm talking about his personality
@@nhio4493 well he is a lawful good servant after all...
@King of Light *Looks at Hans and Mozart* Are you sure?
@King of Light oh really?
I mean he commanded the argonauts
Without them he wouldn't even be qualified as servant
Strange enough i don't hate him that much same as shinji non hf and cant wait to see if jason will have a fight with mini jason same as cu alter vs mini cu alter. That will be legendary. Also orion vs army of Artemis
Hah.and people said this guy was shinji 2.0
More like Medea is a horrible person in the first place.
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 ok Bud sure
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 *Are you sure about that?*
Its because of the gods, who toys them
Nero V well she did kill her own sons due to love
4:06 This line really made me laugh! 😂👏
... His lines for bond 4 and 5 are... Really good... I mean, he is the only one that isn't "i will die and/or kill for you" but he really knows the value of life, no one is expendable.
Ilya: since i can't beat my enemy gold hair guy. Lets beat this on.
Jason: what.
Herc:AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH(Nice to know we will be on the same side fighting side by side)
Jason:HEEELLLLPPP
greek servants: no
Cu:(shows respect to another dealing with hercs "playtime")
Kirie:let's play catch with our dog carren.
Carren: i got the electric charged ball ready.
Cu:(heavy breathing as he wants to play catch)
Me: how about we play baseball.
Heracles: GRAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!! (Cool, now let Jason be the ball and score a home run!)
@@RagnaCloud13 Shinji:first time?
Jason: yeah
Artoria Saber: you can't be a Saber without shooting a beam
@@RagnaCloud13 Gil and emiya: we are archers and throw swords.
Merlin:I got a sword and a caster.
Mhx:SEIBA(assassin)
Mhxa:SEIBA(eats cookie)
Saber: nevermind
From reading up on Greek lore, I think it's safe to say that Aphrodite is basically Greek Ishtar.
She starts all kinds of shit with everyone else just cuz she doesn't like how they don't care for her :/
Sir PunsAlot Hera asked her to do it from what the story says Aphrodite wanted nothing to do with Medea
Not Basically, literally. There is a lot of evidence that says that an Ishtar cult came to Greece and made her popular there, creating Aphrodite.
Both are thots and both are one of the most powerful gods in their pantheons so yea
Gil-face Servant. 😆
How dare you, mongrel?
Gil can't possibly hold a candle to the great Lord Jason
He is basically light gilgamesh.he is a dush who was a king but he regrets the things he had done and the people he hurt
Makai Ridah That first part I knew, what I didn’t know is that he regretted the things he’s done & the people he’s hurt.
King of Light that is not completely true.in fact jason is acknowledged even by other servanta as a cunning and brilliant strategist
King of Light i Meant jason.not gil
Not wrong that survival is the most important thing for commander since if commander falls there's a big chance that the group/army would break apart so commander should be a coward is also not wrong at least for me
can you do convos of servants reacting to Jason? pls
PSA: Jason wouldn't be hated so much in by the community if Medea wasn't a cute cinnamon roll.
Same case also goes for Mordred
He isn't hated so much now.
Double standarts. Typical.
@@senakumo1149 not really. Most hated him because he was an asshole in Okeanos. And in the past with Medea.
@alvi syahri More like people love her because she's cute even though she literally killed lots of KoRT and Arthuria by herself not to mention how Nash build her character is still controversial. If Nash made her a man, he would be so much hated
@@decoy9854 Jason as far as I remember didn't do anything actually remarkable as a asshole in Okeanos. Jason shitting Medea is logical, she literally mutilated her brother when nobody told her to, practices dark magic with Hecate, and even killing her own son when Jason left her.
After all what you've seen in FSN, how do you think Medea is a good person? She's not, both in myth and Fate. Even Kuzuki didn't put trust in her
Pollux?
Oh boy...LB5 vibes
We are now living in a post-Atlantis world. There people who love Jason and there are people who are wrong.
Why didn't I realize- He's the Nasuverse version of Kazuma
I love characters like this guy the most. The type that you really, really want to hate (and for a good reason), but a part of you will always say "Nah, this guy can be pretty cool.".
Jason just went from a spirit I thought was a mustache twirling villain to one of my fave FGO servants lmao
Jason heard some words about delicious pancakes and embarked on a journey with the Argonauts to find the ultimate dessert in the world.
I want a parallel where Shirou Emiya summoned Jason, and instantly get that bond lvl 5 preach. Jason should be paired with the borderline suicidals altruistic masters, he'll keep them alive.
@Alvi Syahri all the more reason I want to see it now I would love to see a fate serious focused on him
Nice dialogues he has
6:04
Jason:"If it's boxing , I recommend Pollux to you."
*looks at image of Pollux from Lostbelt 5*
Really? How the hell can she do boxing with her build? She looks like she barely weighs 40 kg and her arms have the thickness of twigs.
Pollux is the immortal twin. Don't underestimate her.
Dude have you seen Summer Martha? Girl can slam a freaking dragon into you so hard it explodes...WITH HER FISTS.
@@thehighwayman3122 Castor isn't a demi-god but most versions of their myth have Pollux and Castor take turns sharing their immortality (weird I know).
@@thewildcard3116 Oh, I know. Castor was a horseman and Pollux was a boxer. I was just pointing out that just because she may look like a scarecrow, doesn't mean you should underestimate a child of Zeus. After all, look at Heracles.
@@thehighwayman3122 Ah no I understood that point from your comment I was just pointing out the fact that they both are technically immortal. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Also hell yeah a child of Zeus shouldn't be underestimated. If only we could have Perseus and Pollux in the game so them and Heracles could have a weird step sibling family reunion.
I like him so goddamn much
Jason = Kazuma's version of FGO
He also shared same voice as Kira Yamato in Gundam Seed Series.
Fun fact..this man shares the same voice actor as Ben Tennyson in the Japanese dub of both UAF and OV. Learn something new everyday huh?
4:10 Ah Jason, the only thing about you that knows no fear is your mouth.
Bacially Jesus Yamato without beam spam and the Freedom and Coordinator powers and the Freedom and Lacus and Athrun and beam spam and Strike Freedom and -- Did i mention the beam spam?
Jason doesn't meet Kiara Sensyoin yet to get a big robot. Also, Hans help him handle that robot.
FGO: And now we introduce... The Saber of Uselessness.
Damn I wish we could get his outfit from okeanos ):
Domo domo maebara keichi san
Keiichi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet he’ll be one of the most used servants in the game xD
Wait, he is voiced by Soichiro Hoshi?! The dude voiced Sanada Yukimura from Basara franchise
Jason: am I a joke to you?
Medea Lily, Atalanta and Herakles: *YES!!!*
Add: YES YES YES YES... *YES!!!!*
(Meanwhile, Chin Shih Huang, Sanson joins force with Goetia to take Pancake Jason down.)
From everyone's most hated to a quite likable fellow
Nice move DW
I'm excited for when they eventually add Shinji. His charactr is gonna be a tall order
@@adaoraumeh4513 oh yea forgot that guy, definitely kirei before him tho
Oghum Inf Technically we already have that Kirei Servant in Rasputin, he's just yet to become summonable. If it wasn't for Da Vinci Lily this anniversary it probably would've been him, next year it's probably him. That said the question is: Fate/Stay Night-verse Shinji or Extra-Shinji? If Extra-verse that'll probably have to wait until the next Extra-based event, but I doubt that since that's probably when we'll get Archimedes, both Charlemagnes, Violet, and Kazuradrop. With the slight chance we may get Hakuno Kishinami as a Caster or Mooncancer then HAKUNO as an Avenger, with /m a y b e/ the chance they'll bring in the Savior class with Buddha.
@@BulletBillSoilder Kirei is quite likeable than these 2 i think but yea, they all will get their turns.
I dont think kirei will come out until lostbelt 5 and pretty sure muramasa emiya will come out first before shinji but this is DW we're talking so dunno man
i still don't understand why this guy is a lawful good person
Same weird reason Drake is Chaotic Evil.
@@ShinKungFuMan This is kinda funny cuz in Okeanos we're on the same side with a Chaotic Evil person, wich is Drake, against a Lawful Good person, which is Jason
In the mythos, Jason was regarded as a pretty good person. I still remember at one point he was on his way to reclaim his Kingdom, Jason met Hera disguised as a old woman and decided to help her on his back to cross a swamp. He lost his one of his sandals in the process but still carried Hera across the swamp anyways. Another instance of Jason doing good deeds is when they went to find a prophet named Phineas who was plagued by harpies thanks to Zeus. He asked his crew to kill the harpies for him and gave Phineas lots of food. Anyway, the thing is that fgo may have made Jason into a asshole servant who doesn't do anything himself, but Jason was still very kind in his own way in his bond lines.
The displayed alignment is warped by fame.
@@ShinKungFuMan she's a pirate after all
3:16
just HOW scared is he of her? i mean, sure he feel in love with someone else the least he could have done is just let her down easy, not just run away like a spineless coward
That's the thing...he is a coward lol. He wants all the fame that comes with being a hero but he doesnt want to be on the front lines or even fight himself. Still, it makes him an interesting servant.
Outsider Maaaaaaybe cuz Medea killed her own brother and chopped him up.
That was the catalyst for Jason's Nope ship to Fuck That land
@@thewildcard3116 Because lore-wise, Medea is crazy fucked. In FSN, not even Kuzuki trust her completely.
@Hidden -S- the biggest blessing.........and the worst curse in ALL anime
@@thewildcard3116 so in other words: he's the most lazy P***y servant ever?
I wonder what happened if he was summoned by Shinji... would they get along?
@Len Mund Standards, huh? Well he does seem to be much nicer than Seaweed...
I don't think so, but he would get along with Fate/Extra Shinji
Me: want play golf?
Heracles: *GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!* (yep, I like Jason as a ball and strike an eagle on it.)
@@RagnaCloud13 Heracles actually likes Jason, and probably wouldn't do that to him
I don't think so. Both are strikingly similar in how they hate their own weakness which leads to their rather toxic or pathetic personality but the difference being that Shinji projects it outwards and Jason works on it.
Shinji blames and abuses the people he has power over because he wants to be a good mage and not be looked down on by Zouken. Jason on the other hand is aware of his weaknesses and tries to make up for it, he assembles the argonauts to fight the fights he can't, he wants the fame and riches that come with heroism but he can't fight but he still tries.
Aaayy his lines for greek servants are funny af
Since when did Chiron act so modern all the sudden with textbooks and school bags?
He’s probably just fucking with Jason.
Is it just me or is his eyes aren't oriented right? His right eye is facing where, presumably, the player is, but his left eye is facing a little bit *too* the left.
No his eye lens was too big and make it look like that way
To be honest this is the funniest myroom lines i've ever read lol
He is very similar to Shinji but i think they will mess up when they team up😂
My Gil is a bit defective...
3:26 esse foi o melhor grito que eu já ouvi kkkkkkk
This video, finally...
He's right. Winning without lifting a finger is a great feeling
This dude is hilarious
Honestly, the best thing a character or person who is like Jason needs is a stern friend imo. Since Okeanos, Orion and a lot of people made excuses for his personality, and I always thought, "if you're a friend and love him, you gotta have the courage to put him in his place or he'll go off the rails, otherwise you're nothing but a sycophant who will be crying your own tears when he either destroys himself or betrays you." Being sad about him won't do jack to help him.
Is that why Atalante is so hard on him?
We're just the same as Jason, relying on the famous heroes that we gathered
Just that Jason is a coward and an asshole while we...
Dangit.... I was hoping he had a line with atalanta alter... I bet it would've been awesome...
「」: Takeru-chan...
Pancakes Yamoto Yukimura!?
Great selection of voice actor DW
Jason's still an self-important egotistical asshole and a weakling, to be perfectly clear. But he's nowhere near Shinji's level. And, in many ways, he still has basic levels of decency and camaraderie.
Both Medeas are still waifus, but even I have to agree that they're not innocent, even when rewired into loving Jason.
It's telling that I rightfully see main FSN routes Medea as a villain that I empathize with but not sympathize, and I enjoy her Hollow Ataraxia, Carnival Phantasm, and Emiya-san appearances more, since they focus on her being a waifu for Kuzuki, but don't do anything morally reprehensible for that sake.
Still doesn't absolve Jason of his jackassery, though, and I think Jason being portrayed this way is a good thing. He IS rightfully the most dickish of the famous Greek heroes (though Theseus was also in the running. Man, Medea had really bad luck with men till Kuzuki), and only Perseus was devoid of hubris-induced jackassery. With Jason, it's a reminder of how "hero" back then was a marker of someone who performed great deeds, character notwithstanding. Plus, how much of a jackass do you have to be when you lose the favor and protection of HERA. H-E-R-A! The one goddess most heroes tended to be on the wrong side of due to being products of Zeus' inability to keep it in his pants (though strangely, Perseus avoided that and when she met him, she was merely meh towards him). He had one thing over most other heroes and he blew it up so badly. Of all the heroes I can name, his is the most hubris-laded fall.
Question: why is he considered a hero by the throne?
So, basically Kazuma if he were made a Heroic Spirit
If Jason was real, I would check and see if Shuten would want to eat him
I like his si l goddamn much
is he somehow blood-related with gilgamesh
is he wearing a speedo in his first saint graph
I almost hope I'm wrong, but is Jason's voice actor the same one who voices Rance?
Would you be able to Translate Diarmuid's(Saber) Interlude Pls?
Sanada J. Yukimura
Greek servants: *MASTER BURN HIM ALREADY*
SOX Shimoneta Cause she wants to burn him herself
@@supermariobasti She hated Jason but her insane state might even kill you before she kills Jason.
Medea: Allow me to have the Honur master.
Nah Herc actually respects the dude. Read Strange Fake
It is sad that Jason still thinks he was not wrong and how big the evil he committed.He is like a child in an adult‘s body. Yet like the Protagonist he committed evil for the sake of the greater good. He wanted to create a kingdom were everyone is happy. The same happiness we all seek. To feel save, no hunger, no sadness. But the thing is, if he would have at least apologized for the things he has done to others, he would have been forgiven. Only then, in his last days of life, after almost losing everything and everyone he was close, he knew how ‚rich‘ and ‚blessed‘ he was. He had everything yet it was still not enough.
Well you ain't wrong there. Jason did do some pretty dumb things in the Greek Myths, but remember that this guy was tasked to to these things in the first place. Hera tasked him to reclaim the throne in a certain kingdom. Aphrodite made Medea fall in love with Jason to help him in his quest for the Fleece (which ended up in screwing the whole crew as Medea in the myths is honestly insane). And when both he and Medea was kicked out the kingdom after restoring the fleece, they went to a nearby kingdom where the king there notices Jason having relationship issues with Medea and asks if he would marry his daughter (this obviously enrages Medea and she kills him and his new wife). Jason is still a good hero at heart, just that the gods were being assholes and he got a shitty ending despite all his good deed, making him kinda useless to the public eye.
Im new
Question is he available on NA? Cause i am willing to dedicate my self to use him till the end
Nah he just recently came out in jp
Funny thing is Diomedes irl is basically a shitposter
Shinji when did you became a servan :vv
really stupid how he isnt a rider
Did Jason know that Medea was brainwashed by Aphrodite?
I think he does now...
Nice im early
Memeable saber :)
Oh look free QP
Why isn't he a Rider?
ikr
I mean...... Hera got him killed after he was alone, childless, wifeless, bitter and abandoned, by having a part of his rotting Argo ship crash down on him and kill him
not sure he'd be pleased by having to go do his own battles, let alone do it with the same ship that was the murder weapon to end him
@@lynxace1602 He does not qualify to be a saber. He was not famous because of his sword skills. I cant believe he was trained by Chiron.
@@igorlorenc1445 in all fairness, Chiron was basically the teacher of ALL the big shots when it came to Greek heroes; from Achilles to Asclepius, Jason, Perseus, Theseus, Peleus, Ajax and Heracles
@@lynxace1602 I know. How than Jason is so useless?
Argonaut Assemble
and this is supposed to be a hero, a man someone(Medea) deeply had fallen for once
how come the Throne choose him as a hero?
(if we remove the fact that he is a -Heroic- Spirit, I can like him (but as a character, not as a person)
well, he did gathered one hell of a crew and managed to survive though a lot of adventures with them, taking even the role of a leader even though he was pretty much powerless.
Well he's a hero, he assembled the argonauts and led them on the journey to retrieve the Golden Fleece. Plus most people can more or less agree that it's not exactly his fault, sure he shouldn't have ditched her to marry someone else but she was still pretty fucking crazy so it makes sense why he didn't want to remain married to her.
And Atlantis has shown why he is a hero.
I hated him during okeanos but now i cant wait till they add him to NA