Tubbo Responds to Sapnap Signing to KICK!
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tubbo gives his honest opinion on sapnap signing to twitch streaming rival kick and being disingenuous about why sapnap switched platforms. 
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“Positive responses don’t always equal adequate action” HELL YEAH! This goes for not just Kick but anything honesty
I like that Tubbo responded maturely to Sapnap joining Kick. I've seen some other cc's using as a way to be like 'HAHA, I knew something like this would happen!'
Yeah..
I love how Tubbo is so understanding and is trying to hear what Sapnap is saying. Tubbo is just saying his opinions and what he thinks about the situation. He is going deeper into Sapnaps reasoning and trying to see Sapnaps point of view. He also doesn’t try to hurt anyone while saying his opinions. Tubbo is literally just trying to figure out the main reason for the switch that Sapnap made. Tubbo is so real and transparent with his community and that’s what I love about him.
Tubbo is always so well-spoken and considerate. I love to see how he can criticize his friends constructively and kindly while keeping his audience’s safety/well-being in mind
Hes an idiot
are you 12 or something
Hell nah, he was overstepping.
I just want to say that sapnap use to have a gambling addiction, his friends have said it, and now he’s streaming on a big gambling streaming site. Kinda weird.
he signed with kick to STREAM not stake dawg
Kick promotions gambling and 18+ content
@@reedsminecraft ok
@@reedsminecraft bro and twitch is promoting cam girls then, what are you on
i was reading the comments and honestly thought it was satire, then when I figured out it wasn’t it made it even funnier.
Yeah these comments are weird and these ppl have clearly never been on the app
Demanding for his voice be heard yet not showing up for meetings where said voice WOULD HE HEARD? Sapnap, who do you think you are?
Sorry we can't all just have connections to the CEO that help us.
All I will say is everyone in this world has a price. EVERYONE whether you like it or not. Disagree with it or not. It's a fact. With sapnap saying no at first and then yes it means they finally hit his price tag. Anyone would leave for life changing amount of money
Me who dident know what kick was to start off with-
Me
You should go on the website
i feel like sap didn't write that. Half of the stuff that was said sounded like kick trying to target twitch
He's just coping because he knows he shouldn't have but he wanted the money. Like tubbo said that's fine but just be honest
@@Furiac.please explain why he shouldn’t have gone to kick
@@Toothless412 its almost 100% money. Doesnt matter if he is already a millionare why WOULDNT he want more money, not saying he shouldve went to kick but thats just why he did most likely.
@@nomikins5195 It definitely was money, but still Kick isn't trying to be a hate site they just want people to be able to talk and do things without the risk of getting banned, pretty sure the word vrgin was bannable at a point/still is, but I can tell tubbo and his chat are all little kids cause someone said they'd rather be nice over 30 million.
@@Toothless412i saw that, and ye sapnap isnt responsible for other creators ways of taking advantage of the less bannable side of things
I didn't realise that Tubbo spoke so eloquently and maturely! Honestly seems like a very decent person! :)))
Tubbo is a pretty good person yes. And for his age, extremely mature and intelligent.
@@sand_eater101 mhm. normally I watch his content that is more on the comedic side, this one was more serious and so I could really see how mature he can be with matters like this
yeah, i really think he is sweet and kind and very mature :)
Bro whaaaaat?!?! I had no idea he joined Kick :0
People are saying Twitch is just as bad or worse, but didn't Kick sign on someone who was banned on Twitch for sexual harassment or something? Also I've seen screenshots of the shit Kick allows in chats and chooses to platform. And all the whataboutisms (bringing up how Twitch or Tubbo's fandom are also bad) isn't helping. Kick is trying to capitalize on being a streaming site that allows gambling because Twitch doesn't anymore; where do people get the idea that Twitch is just as bad?
people say twitch is just as bad are wrong and also kick is pretty unmoderated so people do say a lot of stuff in chat but sapnap isn't gonna have that issue because his fanbase wouldn't say slurs or anything hurtful and also he can get his own moderators
Free speech is important though. People should be able to say their opinions even if they are a bit controversial. I'm not for Nazi shit, but you should be able to have a different view on Transsexualisms compared to what is expected from rest of the world.
@@lonelylama5222 Free speech protects you from being prosecuted by the government. Nazi’s and transphobes should not have safe spaces to spread their ideology.
the reality is that majority of companies that are as wealthy as kick are corrupt. I would have just taken the money and dipped lol
Tbh, I think a lot of dislike for kick is mostly due to the generalization of how the place is run, more or less due to the people like Adin Ross being one of the most popular streamers there. I do think though that sapnap and his community won't really have a problem there unless someone would try to raid his stream, but even than, its something that still as well happen on twitch and its his job as the streamer to moderate his chat anyways. Hopefully this does allow for other people to try out kick without the stigma kick has due to some streamers
Adin Ross isn't just one of the most popular streamers on Kick. He's a co-owner. His disgusting bigotry is bound to be prevalent on the platform and Kick probably won't do anything about it because they don't want to lose him. I genuinely hope Sapnap can bring some good to the platform but as Tubbo said "unicorns don't exist"
@@cameronorr667 What bigotry are you talking about? Adin is annoying af but I don't get what you mean by his bigotry.
@@lonelylama5222 He was extremely homophobic and transphobic at the time I commented this. I doubt much has changed but I haven't been paying attention to him lately so idk.
I believe that since sapnaps community is younger people that are the majority are not straight white cis males. the fact he’s bringing people as young as 13 and maybe younger (kids lying ab age) onto kick is terrifying, gambling, borderline p0rn and fuckin bigotry can literally ruin peoples lives and especially the fact that Aidan ross is literally a co-owner and we all know that kid.. That thing about sapnap sleeping thru a twitch thing, that’s kinda funny ngl like, i think there would be way less people upset with him if he was completely transparent about money and why he’s actually moving platforms. He also thinks he has a huge voice on the platform which he has a larger voice than a lot of other people in a lot of other places but i think in that situation he might think he’s more powerful than he really is due to the fact he has hella money and people that support him a bunch. Idk that’s not my full take but this isn’t a fuckin rant diary :)
You are actually dumb asl bro
Sapnap isn’t bringing anyone onto kick if there are 13 year olds going onto kick to follow sapnap that’s their choice and maybe the parents should take more care over their child since this dude is a streamer not a babysitter 😂
Nothing on kick will ruin your life bro if you think it will then you gotta log off the internet for a while bro
Saying kick is only safe for straight white people is absolutely ridiculous and you know that’s not true
Why do you hate white people so much also I've never seen any of the stuff you are talking about lol
I heavily doubt you have been on the site also god forbid you exit your echo chamber
You just glazed tubbo and took his words about kick as the end all be all. No, a streamer doesent have the right to protect their community. Thats called a parasocial relationship my friend. Yes Kick is a gambling app which is bad, but they actively promote free speech and give the other side of the political spectrum the right to have a voice and actually have fair policies. You can make more money on Kick, be more uncensored and all of this while twitch is a leftish authoritarian sexist shithole. Tubbo is also an idiot for saying Kick isnt “a SaFe SpAcE”. It’s the internet. Nowhere is a safe place. You can be openly black, gay and jewish on kick. Theres thousands of streamers with those traits on there right now and arent losing money due to being gay or black, and instead are gaining more. Tubbo needs to mind his damn business
you have no proof that his community is mostly not straight cis white males. his community is probably mostly straight male kids but you just don't realise that because they don't use twitter or anything and his lgtb fans do use twitter and all that.
if tubbo did tge little confused shake thing (19:45) to me during a convo i would immediately stop talking and take his side
i really dont get how sapnap, if he knew his audience at all would even think this would be received well. on reflection, i think a lot of the pastebin is BS because i do not get why he wouldnt of just explained this from the offset specifically emphasising his desire to better the platform unless it was a PR move. Even then, surely he would know this wouldntve been well received so why not make excuses from the offset unless he is just that deluded to think it would be well received
thats the thing, sapnap doesnt know his audience at all and hasn't figured it out for years now. he's convinced that ALL of us are young kids when we arent and the majority of sapnaps, dreams and georges fandoms combined are older teens or young adults and bipoc and queer, including myself. but it is very fcked up if he truly thinks we are all young kids and tries moving us to that platform.
@@wildflowerproductions1414 (half of yall our let's not KID ourselves not saying all I'm saying HALF) ok what changes if sapnap joins kick? I don't think joining kick instantly means "Oh no he's ablist, racist, HOMOPHOBIC " he even said he wanted to make kick a better place
@@Jpels0 if you read his paste bin it sounds like an Ai wrote it. He clearly did it for money and I’m not saying he’s all those things for joining it because I am a fan of him still, I’m just saying I wish he was honest Bc he clearly didn’t think this through. Kick is where everyone who was banned off of twitch goes and one of the co owners is openly transphobic, Sapnap is ridiculous in thinking us, his marginalized audience, would help him in fixing a platform that hates us. And he isn’t doing much fixing Bc all he’s done so far is play games on there.
Again he got greedy signed a contract that he can’t get out of and was trying to cover it up with some bs excuse. We would have less of a problem with it if he was just honest.
@@Jpels0 also not even half of us are kids Because you have to take into account that a lot of us have been here since the dsmp so kids grew up into adults and the dsmp isn’t making Dream and his friends in popular anymore so they are at a steady growth now. There are more adults here.
23:37 - 24:46
an incredibly based take
He's not "exposing young audience to gambling". The site has gambling but Sapnap himself isn't doing it if we were to say that, that aslo means that Tubbo is exposing young impressionable people with borderline porn lives on twitch. Like this video is stupid i don't know how people are defending this guy
Wild how people are defending tubbo switching up on Sapnap all because he moved to kick
Wild
Fr bro they're calling Sapnap red pilled because he switched streaming website
im glad he spoke abt this
I don't really know how to say this but he's just 19, and yet so mature and all ! I think Tubbo's so right in this, and honestly, I'm quite sad that Sapnap changed from Twitch to Kick, I didn't know Kick before, and I think this streaming platform is shit. (I'm really sorry if my comment isn't clear or doesn't make sense but that's the best my brain could write it lmao 😅)
@@I_am_NOT_a_nerd its not about "speaking your mind" people get openly harassed on kick because it doesn't have proper rules and moderation. using the " thats what happens in the real world" excuse is so exhausting, honestly. minorities are aware of the harassment, homophobia and racism that occurs in the "real world", they live through it every day, however, watching content online is supposed to be fun and stress-free. its perfectly understandable that his community is disappointed that he is moving to a platform that they just don't feel comfortable being on.
@@finch4979dude if your so offended over what people do on kick then just don’t sign up it’s not that hard
Nothing kick does actively hurts minorities lmfao
The dude your responding to is absolutely correct 😂😂
@@finch4979I've never any of that happen
You just glazed tubbo and took his words about kick as the end all be all. No, a streamer doesent have the right to protect their community. Thats called a parasocial relationship my friend. Yes Kick is a gambling app which is bad, but they actively promote free speech and give the other side of the political spectrum the right to have a voice and actually have fair policies. You can make more money on Kick, be more uncensored and all of this while twitch is a leftish authoritarian sexist shithole. Tubbo is also an idiot for saying Kick isnt “a SaFe SpAcE”. It’s the internet. Nowhere is a safe place. You can be openly black, gay and jewish on kick. Theres thousands of streamers with those traits on there right now and arent losing money due to being gay or black, and instead are gaining more. Tubbo needs to mind his damn business
you realise sapnap can and will get his own moderators for his stream? @@finch4979
Here's my speculation, sapnap either, didn't write that, he's lying because he can't say certain things or he's been given SO much money. Let's be fr, sapnap would've been stoped by dream, because dream is really good with stuff like social media, so the fact this has happened, means its alot of money, and sapnap saying this might have not been him. I don't think it is, that doesn't really seem like a sapnap thing, and plus he's very contradictory, meaning he probably doesn't even believe the things he's saying. He's just saying them to make kick happy, its a contract. He has to do this, I feel him advocating for Kick is bad. But sapnap always seemed a bit oblivious. I think this must be SO much money. But he's not aloud / doesn't feel as tho he should talk about it.
Kick isn't any worse than twitch. Where was Alinity force feeding and throwing a cat? Twitch. Where is a huge amount of e-thots grifting young men out of money? Twitch. What platform does Cenat, who recently caused a riot in NYC stream? Twitch. There's no good or bad. Just Twitch and similar alternatives to it.
Please tell me how kick is bad in any way shape or form other than it being a site owned by a gambling corporation? like how is this site not safe for sapnaps "predominately black and lgtbq+" audience
@@jynxorjames3413 its a very openly racist and homophobic platform, theres a screenshot on twitter of someone in sapnaps kick chat who has two slurs back to back in the username. which is crazy that that was even allowed to be used as a name
@@jynxorjames3413 well, im assuming for black and LGBTQ+ ppl, is prolly bigotry, but this site lets kids gamble and gets them exposed too it, if there is a credit card connected to the account. Kick is a youngplatform, they have no real TOS, thats the thing. It makes anything ok, which isn't good, theres literal porn on there.
@@toenailsandcheese_ Vaush, Hasan, Brucedropemoff, all stream or streamed on Twitch and have used racial slurs. Are we now going to say Twich is unsafe?
tubbo’s so real
and this is why ranboo is eating his children
Why was tubbo so based in this
He’s really not
mfs be callin anything based 💀
“The biggest reason i signed this deal is because of the company twitch has become in the last few years” bro you only started streaming since the last few years how would you even know
this argument is stupid because people can use apps even before they've started their streaming career
I still support sapnap I jst think hes tone-deaf for joining kick
Literally how what is wrong with kick in any way
@@jynxorjames3413 its a very racist, homophobic, and sexist platform lmao
Many people there are racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc and a lot of kick streamers are there because they were banned from other platforms
Kick is a marketing arm of an illegal crypto gambling casino. And lots of unhinged streamer stream there. (White supremacist, pedo, etc)
@@Oliveisherenowyep the poster boy for twitch is a giant bigot, why sapnap would do this when the hate would extend to him as well is beyond me. its just a shitty thing to do but also an extremely horrible marketing decision lmao even if they gave him a lot of money i cant imagine it’ll be worth it in the long run.
kick is an amazing place for people to make money but… sapnap doesnt need to make money. he isn’t barely getting my like other ccs who NEED to use kick to pay the bills. he has millions of subscribers and diehard fans.
Kick was apparently started in Australia, which as an Australian myself, I will say is not the best thing already. Most Australians have a... habit, I guess I should say, of already saying slurs in day to day speech. With everything I've heard about it... Yeah, as an actually genuinely nice person, I am going to say I don't feel like it's a nice platform to be on. Most streamers moved to RUclips instead, which I think is a much better choice. Because the thing with Australians, because of the amount of slurs in our slang, I doubt it's going to be a properly friendly community as Australian standards are lower for what's 'acceptable'
Personally, I am in the LGBTQ+ community and I feel like part of Kick's problem may be the fact it's Australian. I've gotten called slurs enough in my day to day life to know it's essentially become normal Australian speech. Hell, we can be considered hypocritical with the recent referendum, and to an extent, racist. So even if Sapnap makes an actual attempt to change things, I have my doubts it will change
Well that clears things up sapnap got overwhelmed by money and thinking he would finally be recognised for what he’s worth and have a voice that will be heard. Keyword here. “Thinking” I won’t watch him on kick nor will I even download the app but I will continue to watch him on twitch and the fact that he’s only streaming once a week really does show that he’s aware of the issues and doesn’t want his community on there whilst these issues still exist on the platform which then begs the question why even stream to begin with?. Maybe it’s appart of the contract that he must stream once a week because he said he was looking for something to force him to stream more. That’s what I think about it but I could be wrong. And also saying one of the reason why he last twitch was because of Amazon to then go to another platform that is also owned by Amazon just baffles me because that’s in no way shape or form any justification for leaving twitch and then joining kick. And I do agree with what tubbo is saying about how other creators on kick will have a much larger voice in anything sapnap saying on kick purely because there the CEO. And I think that with all the feedback sapnap has gotten for the community he would have left kick but perhaps (this is my own theory) there are contiions in the contract that prevent him from leaving the platform and would explain why he is only streaming one day a week.
a whole paragraph of nothing lol
he did nothing wrong you people gotta stop crying frfr
@@CAndromeda4536that isn’t the point, we’re just thinking about it
@@orihallmark well I was flying high last night and didn’t read it like at all so my b
This look very complicated to me but i don't see anything sus that he joined the kick some sort off what kind is that thingy to do with.
R we gonna ignore the fact that so ⟒ one was watching this during school?
Love the vids😂
When will we see crumb again
I'm glad Sapnap took the money. Sapnap joining kick won't hurt anyone at all.
Bro why is sapnap watching cocomelon 💀😭
This is why I love Tubbo tbh
Yes I’ll support sapnap but like dude.
And yet sapnap kept streamibg on twitch
This just sounds so narcissistic of him, my gosh…
I really don’t know enough about this situation to comment about it, so I’m just going to keep my mouth shut. 😐
Kick at what, like baseball or kick the ball though
you dont kick a baseball
love him x
i agree but idk about the "twitch is pretty good" thing. twitch is fucking garbage right now. i say that as a content creator, it's ass. twitch has proved time and time again that all they do as a company is for monetary gain rather than looking after their streamers
its 8 figures. id just take that and do the bare minimum required for the contract and never look at chat.
I disagree with everything kick stands for but im not going to pretend that I wouldnt take this deal in his position. the only thing I can critique him on is the twitlonger thing. reasons given sound petty and hes just digging himself a bigger hole. nearly everyone in his position would take this if the money was big enough. at the same time though once you take it you have to realise majority of your fanbase will hate you.
just be honest and admit you are doing it for the money. its not hard.
Virtue signaling jacka$$
13:37
What’s kick
Something kinda like twitch
@@Loosing-Sanity-Channel ohh ok
@@Leavenicktorotjust very homophobic and racist (I mean kick)
@@maxarrrranit’s not it’s just some of the people on there.
@@maxarrrran oh ok
I honestly think that Sapnap can stream on any website he wants???? If you don't support the site that he streams on, then you don't have to watch him. It's as easy as that.
He's talking about it because a lot of the popular streamers on their are racist, homophobic, transphobic, and basically anything u can think of that's bad. They also promote gambling.
@@Ace_of_Storm Sapnap gambles, so I don't think that bothers him. I think that Sapnap likes it because of free speech. People are so worried about getting their feelings hurt. The people who don't like racist, homophobic, transphobic still have a right to express their opinions. Even if it is political or religious. Now considering the younger audice that Tubbo is concerned about going to Kick are already watch someone who uses the F word a lot. So I don't see the problem with him joining Kick. And Tubbo is right it is about the monney. Sapnap wanted to be in MrBeast's Squid Game video but, when MrBeast said that he wasn't going to let Sapnap compete for the money. Sapnap immediately decided that he didn't want to be in the video even though MrBeast said that he really need help.
@@IamFree03 cmon dude the whole world knows that he only moves because of money.
@@IamFree03 it's also for the people who are being affected from racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. Sapnaps saying that he understands and hears them when he's not being harassed himself. It's completely ok to not like lgbtqia+, but at least be respectful about it. It's fine to have a opinion, but if u see something u don't like, u don't have to comment about it. Just scroll and move on. I'm not saying that u r doing that, I'm just saying it.
@@Ace_of_Storm I think people can be respectful about. The problem for 57% of the world that is Christian or Muslim is not being respected when it is against their religion to call someone with the wrong pronouns when transpeople want them to.
Tubbo lecturing Sapnap that “Kick” is not a safe platform because of hate speech, and sex work when he’s acting like he doesn’t use twitter which apparently counts as a safe platform when Twitter is one of the most toxic platforms to date. Just let him stream and if your offended just don’t watch it. The hypocrisy is crazy man.
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Oh no people might see opinions they dont agree with how scary
Hi
kick signing sapnap obviously shows they are ready to accept more streamers with more diverse audiences. idk why people are overlooking this.
They also signed someone who was banned from Twitch for sexual harassment or something (my memory sucks) so like-
I couldnt find anyone who was signed to kick after a sexual harrasment twitch ban, so maybe do some googling before you spread misinformation. also kick is cracking down on hottub streams, which twitch is notorious for not caring about.@@carnal.circus
@@carnal.circusdoubt
Not that big of a deal, no self respecting human being really cares what a grown man does with his career, lmao.
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L tubbo don’t care
sapnap better
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Gaf touch grass
tubbo had a very good response but i dont think he should be talking bc his fandom is extremely problematic by being racist and sending death threats to others in the dsmp fandom (mostly dream team stans)
i agree that sapnap shouldn't even be doing kick at all but he rarely has streamed there thankfully.
Since when is Tubbo’s fandom r@cist? Like- what? I’m in the fandom, and if you think tubbo’s fandom is r@cist, does that automatically make *me* r@cist? Like- im genuinely confused here
its not the streamers issue to "protect" their viewers from getting called names on the internet. its stupid. kick is 100 percent a better platform than twitch and all these parasocial celebrities trying to virtue signal against it are dumb
Do you know what slurs are or do you just genuinely not know? Because like- I actually can’t tell.
maybe just dont be such a p*ssy. if your going to be on the internet you need to learn not to be scared of being called names. also why are you so mad that these streamers that you meatride are actually trying to make money@@xshimaeraxx_
@@xshimaeraxx_ what does it matter hes right lol. slurs are only offensive if you choose to be offended same with literally everything else. you shouldnt be on the internet if you find everything offensive
@@Shmooggle oh my god, tell me you are privileged without telling me you're privileged
@@silverdrag0n_ give me a point that contains actual substance.
My respect for sapnap rn:📉
what's wrong with sapnap switching to kick
but honestly it’s a bit hypocritical to target Kick as a company instead of the people on it, because Twitch at the same time has way more allegations on Sexism, Racism and Favoritism. I am talking specifically as a company (but they’re are many individuals who are on the platform as well) & its employees. in fact twitch has made a policy for streamers not being allowed to talk about favoritism without being banned. Kick is a horrible platform but so is twitch and it’s bit laughable people will sit on a platform just a problematic as kick and criticize.
twitch only banned Adin Ross after they profited off him hosting problematic figures (like Andrew Tate) but no one addresses the issues with twitch long enough.
twitch is just as bad, they just hid it better.
My respect for sapnap rn:📈