An Open Letter To Coop From Garage Gym Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- One take, no script, and from the heart. Midnight on the floor of Home Gym Con 2024.
I've been wanting to record this message to Coop from Garage Gym Reviews for a long time, and the time was right. I couldn't keep this inside any longer. 
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Coop reached out directly and we have spoken via email. All is good again in the garage gym world. Much respect to him for sending the email, it meant a lot to me.
The fact that he didn't even go to hone gym con is crazy
@@MrPanthers23 agreed. It's clear he's not in control anymore. He goes where Pillar 4 tells him to go.
@@MrPanthers23 If he couldn't go I can understand, but surely he could have made a 5 minute video to shout it out.
I’m guessing REP recently started paying him more money, because he has been pushing their products in the last few months. But you can see the resentment on the REP guys faces at the fact they have to play along with the game.
@@turdrhinofiend I'm not sure, but that would have been nice. The convention was for the fans and I know a lot of people would have appreciated that.
Drake and Kendrick got garage gym channels making diss videos in 2024. What a time to be alive. I'm just playing, I know this was a genuine video from a fan.
THanks, I appreciate that take. Read a whole article about them this morning, the number of views that new track got is insane! I am a fan and I really tried to get that across in the video. His THREE video response clearly shows he didn't take it that way, but oh well. I said what I had to say and that's it for me. Not looking for continued drama. I could easily post more vids to take advantage of how much pub this has created, but I genuinely didn't do this for views or subs. I did it so that if at least one person makes a better decision after watching him push less than great products, it's a win. Thanks for the comment, it really does mean a lot!
Phenomenal video, and judging by these comments, you crushed it on this one bud. Excellent.
Dude seriously even GOOB showed up, crazy that Coop wouldn't make it.
@@freedomfitnessequipment I saw him getting on the escalator after me and I was like, "GOOB?!?!?" He must have thought I was an insane person. I love his page. Thanks for the kind words, man. Honor to tell people I know you and we are digital friends.😂
Yeah I felt the same way and I know others I have talked to as well. You’re just saying what those of us that have been paying attention are feeling and seeing as well. Good video Tim! Glad we got to meet and talk in person.
Thanks, I appreciate that. Great to meet you and looking forward to staying in touch and seeing you again next year. I already bought my ticket!
It’s refreshing to see somone else call him out publicly for a change. I have been trying to spread awareness about pillar 4 going on a few years now. Sadly 99% of people think ggr is still coop
Absolutely 100% lots of people I deal with on the island said coop hasn’t been the same for a while. Glad someone made the video about this. Hopefully we get old coop back !
Yup. It's sad to see him turned into just a talking head. I hope somehow he can go back. I genuinely meant what I said, I miss the old GGR.
@@kjcobb2751 That's all I want. Not trying to cause drama or start arguments. I really am/was a fan.
I didn't see you at Home Gym Con, or I would have stopped to say hi. I appreciate your video. My garage gym was an oasis during hard times. Like others, I view my garage gym as a hobby and sanctuary (and torture chamber). The home gym community is small. GGR was a great help, but while the production quality has increased, the quality of the reviews has decreased. I get that his channel is a business, and he will do what is best for his family, but the channel simply isn't as good as it once was.
Agreed. I already bought my ticket for next year, hope to see you there!
I didnt know he sold GGR but now that you mention it, it has seemed like Gluck, yourself and the rest of the guys are what I've been watching more of lately.
It wasn't public, you have to go to the Pillar 4 site to see that they own GGR now... Along with BarBend and Breaking Muscle (which explains a lot about what's going on with those sites too) and a bunch of mattress sites. Basically high dollar, high margin affiliate sites. Thank you so much for watching my stuff, it means a lot. I totally didn't expect to pivot to being a RUclipsr at 53!😂
Thank you for sharing your experience with us and you're not the only one who noticed "changes" with Coop. I asked Coop for advice via a RUclips video but never got a response. I also tried to Sign Into his Website but it never worked and I never got help from them. Coop WAS my main influence for purchasing fitness equipment but I found other RUclips sources that actually took time to respond and offer help.
Sorry you had that experience and I wish it wasn't the norm now. I'm with you, used to be a much bigger fan than I am now. Gluck responds right away on YT and on Insta. I think he's the go to person now. Love his stuff. It's been interesting to watch his reviews next to GGR of the same gear. They are soooo different. The Fringe Sport Dane review is a good example. GGR was all good stuff and all surface level (clearly hadn't used it that much) while Gluck went deep, had clearly trained on it a bunch, and wasn't afraid to point out the problems. It's the difference between making videos to sell things and making videos to review them. Gluck is an awesome guy, met him last month and he's exactly the guy you see on his channel. Can't shout him out enough!
Coop was a rogue fan boy before he sold his company
Very powerful video! I have been saying these same sentiments for a while now.... with a little more hostility. Lol! The blatant arrogance, and ego he carries himself with, along with the condescending ways he has talked to his staff on camera has never sat well with me. Maybe it's his shtick for the channel? I don't know, but it's not working.
As far as his credibility with me, well, that has long been gone. It's quite common for him to review something only to have that footage used to make a well produced commercial that's posted on social media shortly after.
There's something that you touched on in a previous video- you wait a while after getting a piece of equipment before doing a review. I totally appreciate that. The Pillar 4 Puppet shows it off like a new toy as soon as he gets it. Is it cool to have a sneak peek? Sure! But that's all it is. For me, his "honest reviews" are taken with the smallest grain of salt.
Thanks for the solid content!
-Jason
Thank you so much for saying that. I think that's one of the reasons I took 6 months to think about this vid before making it. If I'd made it 6 months ago, it would have come out very differently and a lot angrier. I'm just genuinely bummed that GGR is no more. I created a YT account just to follow them back in the day.
Great video bro!
Thank you!
It had to be said and you said it really well and elegantly👍🏽
Thank you, I really appreciate that.
Thanks Tim for saying what we all wanted to say.
Thank you for watching. I appreciate it and the comment.
My buddy sent coop a pair of the Mack clamps, which he was the designer for. Been tested and proven to be THE strongest clamps on the market. They work for both normal barbell collars and axle collars. Coop did a short barely referencing them but never reviewed them. Yet on the PRX halo review coop is using them. My buddy offered a $10 discount code with a $20 kickback to GGR even but GGR obviously wanted a cash payment to do a review. This is a company founded by an Iranian immigrant who is incredibly passionate about being in the United States and wants to offer the best product to the American gym market possible; and coop can’t be bothered to do a review with a SWEET deal offer when it comes to kickbacks and it’s not enough cause he doesn’t have the money to just pay for a review like the juggernaut brands.
I heard soooooo many stories like that and worse at Home Gym Con. GGR is 100% a pay to play channel. It's a marketing channel at this point, not a review channel. And that's fine as long as viewers understand that's what it has become.
Thanks for throwin my IG in the video 😂. It was great talking to you a little friday morning. Youre doing great work. And I just can't stand his stuff, or his mustache 😅
Thanks, man! Great meeting you too. I looked through over 500 posts that tagged HGC to try and make sure I got everyone on there, but I'm sure I missed a few. I emailed them for a list and if they send it back, I'll put everyone in the pinned comment as well as tag them on the IG reel too. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Subscribed. Speak the truth!
Thank you. That really does mean a lot!
I used to watch GGR religiously Jul 6, 2021 ✅ Bowflex SelectTech Kettlebell was the last GGR video I watched. I took a break because my gym was complete for the time being. I came back a couple weeks ago because I'm in the market for a manual treadmill so of course GGR was my first stop. Coop is still charismatic as ever, but I noticed exactly what you mentioned. Things seemed different. I had no idea he sold the channel. I also noticed the ggr reviews everything channel and wondered wtf was going on. I knew I wasn't going crazy. Coop is still the best in front of the camera, he's great at what he does. Bummer to see him sell off his channel. Change is inevitable tho 🤷♀ I'm happy for his success.
Agreed. I'm terrible on camera compared to him. Every time I edit, I think, "what would Coop say... How would Coop have put that, etc" I truly am a fan. And I truly do want the old GGR back. Thanks for taking the time to comment, it means a lot!
Thank you for this video. I was puzzled by Coop’s recent endorsement of Nuobells despite the evidence of their propensity to break but GGR’s being purchsed by Pillarfour explains it.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Yep. I noticed that things that once reviewed highly and were rated above other products would disappear from subsequent roundups...and the lower rated product with affiliate cash would appear in the roundup as "recommended." Case in point: Ativa dumbbells rated higher than Bowflex... GGR now recommends Bowflex...
Yeah, it's gotten pretty obvious to anyone who knows a bit about this stuff. Thanks for watching and commenting, I appreciate it!
Absolutely honest video.
Thanks! That's what I was shooting for.
We want ‘Coop Trains’ back
Respect for posting this. Had no idea about the Pillar 4 buyout, but it makes complete sense given the downward trajectory of the content.
Thanks. They also bought BarBend and Breaking Muscle, so that explains a lot about that content lately too. They are also involved with Sports Illustrated. If you've seen the crazy stuff with them using AI disguised as fake people and SI going out of business, it all starts to paint a pretty ugly picture about Pillar 4.
@@GymCrafter not at all surprised about the bot accounts boosting engagement. So much filler content now. Thanks again for bringing this stuff to light and not just coming across as a hater. Purely factual.
It really is strange coop didn’t go, he’s known as the home gym equipment review guy and he didn’t go to home gym con. All the biggest vendors in the home gym space were there, its perfect content. Unless he had like a really important event to go to, although he could of sent someone like Sam.
For me, the point is that this was a convention, NOT a trade show. Just like ComicCon. It was for the fans. Literally the people that made him who he is today. He is the one that needed to go, IMO. but then again, I'm probably just being a grumpy old man. 😂
The real kicker is I bet he wanted to go, but because GGR couldn’t make enough money off of it, it didn’t happen. I’m just glad Jake started Home Gym Con before Pillar 4 got there first.
That's a good point. Met Jake for the first time this weekend and the event is totally a reflection of him. I'm not sure why he didn't go, but I quite a corporate gig just so I no longer HAD to do what anyone said. It's a soul sucking life to be beholden to someone else for something as silly as money. Thanks for checking out the video, I appreciate it.
I hope you saw Coop’s response to this and I hope you can provide specific examples of various accusations you made. This was melodramatic.
Who are you, my mother? Watch his channel for examples of everything. And read the pinned comment before posting ridiculous comments like this.
@@GymCrafter That comment right there spoke volumes about you. If you can’t provide examples, if none are coming to mind, then you’re making it up to try and be relevant. Coop is grade A and his response said it all. Yours here does as well.
@@Strongmanhannah fanboy much? I don't owe you anything. I talked to Coop directly, and that's all I'm obligated to do. Sorry you are offended, but I suppose you getting offended by a YT video right there speaks volumes about you. Mind ya business and troll elsewhere. Or don't, YT loves the engagement. Every comment helps the channel and the video! Your choice!
I am not sure I have committed on a video in more than 14 years. Signed in just to like this video. The reviews coming from GGR are becoming a joke. “This is the best because it has a laser cut logo.” That is your review? Do you pick your contractor because they had a cute logo cut into their hard hat? Or because they can do a good and do it right? Thanks for the Video GC. I am going to check your channel out now.
Wow, I know how that goes and that's high praise. Thank you! And you are 100% right. He misses so much stuff now on too many products. It's a clear 5 minute look and then a review. I hope he can somehow go back to the old GGR. That's truly all I want, but I don't think it'll happen.
I feel like this was inevitable. Dudes always sell out. Takes a rare soul to do it for the love of the game. Like. . . if someone offered me millions of dollars, I'd probably sell out too.
Most people would. I'm fortunate enough to have had success first and then left it to do this for a living instead. It pays a hell of a lot less, but I like helping people and it's much more fulfilling. Thanks for checking the video out and commenting, I always appreciate everyone's differing points of view!
Coop makes me fall asleep now watching his vids because of all the fakery he baking
Coop is international now. No time for petty domestic conventions. It is all about entertainment $.
Truth.
The Ted Debiase effect. "Everybody's got a price"
Oh man, that's going waaaaay back! Love it
Coop Evolved and became a success story! If you don't evolve you be come irrelevant..
I guess that depends on how you define success.
@@GymCrafter True
I miss the old Coop before he went corporate!
Me too... me too.
This is honestly why I follow yourself and Gluck, he doesn’t own the home gym market and will sadly be influenced eventually.
Thank you, that means a lot. That's some great company to put me with. I met Gluck this weekend and he is exactly who you see on the videos. Great guy.
@@GymCrafteryou are a great dude too Tim, your army grows stronger sir, ChiTown has your back.
The FB community is better than the RUclips channel
That's what I've heard. I'm not a FB guy so never joined. I've had a few people reach out to tell me this vid has caused quite a stir over there. I'm not going to look. I didn't make this to argue, it's just how I honestly feel.
The discord server is much better
Nuobell looks like crap just like the bowflex adjustables…I bit the bullet and got the pepin fast series a year ago …worth every penny
Those Peppins are sweet! And waaaaay out of my budget range.😂Since I buy almost everything on the channel with my own money (thankfully for my wallet, that's starting to change), I just can't swing spending that much on one thing, especially since I still think PowerBlocks are the best around for home gyms (and I'm the only one still recommending them because they no longer have an affiliate program). Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
He speaks the the truth. GGR and sister show with the girls gave seemed biased. Best of recommendation with a why, or just leaving out some of the biggest players in the game.
That other channel is gross. I still watch every GGR video, but I'll never watch another on GGR Reviews Everything.
Great video
Thanks, been really nervous about posting this one. Appreciate the feedback!
I stopped following his channel after he made those weird videos with the buttery boys. It was clear he was no longer in charge of the GGR channel anymore, why would anyone interested in home gym gear want to watch a video showing the contents of someones backpack.
Oh wow, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, those were super weird and way out of character. And exactly what I was talking about in the vid when I said weird things started to happen with the channel. Thanks for the comment!
I JUST TOOK A MASSIVE DIARRHEA CRAP
😂
When the pre workout hits 😂
this video is all about taking a massive diarrhea 💩💩💩
Couldn’t agree more, was ridiculous he wasn’t there. Thanks for calling out the nuobells. Anyone who pushes those dumbbells is highly questionable. Mine broke after 2 months of light use. Sold them as soon as my warranty replacements came in. Lost $300 on the sale.
Thanks! Glad to hear you got out of those. I've heard way too many stories of them breaking.
Oh my Goodness Gracious, you read my mind, I Echo everything you said. I too loved Coop, he was the 1st guy I watched but I kept watching him and he lost me. If you start off every video saying you're gonna tell the truth, that is a huge Red Flag and suggests you used to not tell the truth.
He lost me the most though when he would know the barbell, plate, etc he was reviewing was better than Rogue's but EVERY TIME he would say even though this one is better, I still reccomend Rogue, buy Rogue.
He got so Pro Rogue we all could tell he was being paid off.
I dont hate Coop, but it is sad that he sold out to the highest bidder.
Selling to Pillar has set him up to where he doesn't care about integrity anymore.
Coop is lost, Tim, he ain't coming back and that's cool but Coop if you knew how bad that little disclaimer you say before every video makes you look, you would quit saying it.
Got to be Honest and bud I'm a nice guy (there you go, disclaimer) so what do you think the guys who dont like you are saying.
Nice job Tim with the Elephant in the room
Thank you. I was hesitant to post this, but before I hit record, I asked for some grace and the ability to speak from my heart. I appreciate your feedback, it seems like most people I talk to feel this way now.
@@GymCrafter
I've said these things to You and Gluck a few times but I did not want to anger you two as I did not know if you were Coop lovers or not.
I've not been happy with Coop for a while and I am thrilled you brought this to light. He wont change, especially if he got the money you said. I didnt realize he made that much but I do know I dont trust him any at all.
He does get the new equipment in 1st though and that is only reason I watch his channel sometimes
Great Job
Take Care
P.S. The people that know anything about gym equipment or youtube reviews is on our side, only the ignorant people or his family & friends will take up for him because we are saying the truth and Coop knows he is a sell out but I bet he says
Yeah, I may be a sell out but I'm a rich sell out!!!!!
Almost guaranteed that is his response
Weird I was on walk and wondering if I should be trusting his reviews for my gym at my new house and BAM I look at my phone to find this. Amazing timing!
Thanks! Go to Gluck's Gym channel. Best home gym content on the internet right now. I met him this weekend and he's the same guy in person that he is on his channel. He won't steer you wrong.
In COOPs defense, what in the hell was the thought behind having the gymcon in French Lick Indiana? Talk about a weird location unless you’re a Larry Bird obsessed person. I’d pick Germany over Indiana any day.
Well, it's for home gym owners. Most of whom cannot afford to go to Germany for something like this. FIBO, the show in Germany is a completely different thing. It's an industry trade show where mfrs. from around the world show off their gear to the people that sell it... Stores, websites, etc. It's not for home gym owners.
Home Gym Con is. And while I heard a lot of people mention that there wasn't much else to do whilel they were there, for most of us, HGC offered plenty to keep us all busy. By the time you spent the day at the show and went to the vendor dinner there wasn't time for anything else. Also, it's in the middle of the country. Where it's central to everyone. Would be fair to have it far from everyone or all the way on one side of the US.
It's in Louisville, KY next year so there will be a lot more to do for folks who want to make a bigger trip out of it. It's a great step up for the show and something that can be done due to its size. Keep in mind that this year was only year two and they still have a tight budget. It's affordable to do in French Lick and not so much in more populated cities.
@@GymCrafter I get that, but still how about a major city. It’s way more expensive for me to get to French lick from DC then it would be going to somewhere with a major airport like Denver or Austin or Vegas or Los Angeles or Atlanta, etc…. Home gymcon location was less then ideal.
@@MudPig6110 Too bad you couldn't make it, maybe next year. Best place to give this feedback is to them, I have zero control over where it is!
Sorry … high seven figures into eight figures ? TENS of millions of dollars ? I just can’t fathom how that could be accurate/worth that much. It’s a large community but still a fairly niche community, with not even 1 million subscribers on RUclips. I would think it would take decades for the site to generate tens of millions of dollars of revenue and be worth that investment … but maybe I’m missing something ?
Yup. You have no idea how much money he was making BEFORE being bought. Since I've both bought and sold web and YT properties before... the typical sale amount is bt 35-40x your monthly revenue. BT brand deals, affiliate sales, selling the gear he gets for free, and ad dollars, he was making an easy 7 figures per year. Add to that they kept him on as the face of the brand and that deal was Very lucrative. Plus, you have to combine his website revenue with his YT revenue when figuring all of that out. He built an empire for sure. And, honestly, that's one of the things that bugs me most. He didn't need the money and was doing really well without Pillar4. Why let someone else walk all over your reputation just to sell supplements on a second channel?
Thanks for posting this comment, I think a lot of people have the same question. it wasn't until I started doing this for a living (started as a side thing over 15 years ago) that I saw all the back end revenue people are making and what an exit paid.
Thanks for the video, makes sense. FWIW I do think all RUclipsrs fall prey to bias once they receive "free gear" or perceive the promise of monetary reward. The latter can be both directly from the company with the though of more free gear or indirectly from monetization from more views and comments. It is human nature. The most convincing reviews I've seen are folks who buy stuff with their own money or even pay for what they were asked to review after reviewing it because they liked it so much. Frankly, consider the Fringe Plate endorsement you gave after receiving free 45lb plates at HGC.... also how can we trust your review of the free BOS curl bar you just received as well.... just saying... Look, I appreciate all the reviews by all the RUclipsrs, but realistically, bias exists when free stuff is in play and this happens both consciously and subconsciously.
I 100% agree and this Friday on the Way Too Early For a Friday Podcast on the Garage Gym Life YT channel, we'll be discussing this exact topic. To address your two examples, though... The first bar they sent me for free I dumped all over. Came right out and said not to buy it. You can see the review on my site and on this channel. For the Fringe plates... I bought, with my own money, a complete set of their contrast bumpers several years ago. In fact, 90% of everything I've reviewed on my site I bought with my own money, and much of it has no affiliate program or back end pay. I also make a point to spend a LOT of time making videos that aren't product reviews. I'm releasing a barbell finish video tomorrow that's taken 3 full days to complete. While I will link all the barbells in the description, the video doesn't pitch anything other than saying my favorite barbell is the American Barbell Chewy bar... A bar I bought for full retail price with my own money.
This was a side thing for me for many years and I've been fortunate enough to be able to make it a full time thing. And what you describe goes through my mind all day, every day. It's my biggest concern because there are soooo many people out there only after money.
It's a fine line to walk between making a living at this and keeping your integrity. Honor, character, and integrity are my most highly held values, but unless you know me personally, that can often sound like lip service.
I really, really appreciate you posting this comment as it's what a lot of people think, but never say. All I can do is continue to make content and review products as I always have and earn people's trust over time. If you ever see me stray from that on a video, please call me out! And if you have any suggestions on ways to further show that what I put out is genuine, I'd love to hear it. It really is my biggest concern.
Thanks for replying! I’ll check out your other videos. I don’t know you but your comments seem sincere! Looking forward to seeing you barbell review! Have a great day!
RUclips is a Job like any other, he was able to grow a business and make more money, that's not a bad thing, I actually watch his channel and like what they are doing. I also like your channel as well, keep up the good work 👍
Thank you! And yeah, it's easy when I don't have an 8 figure offer in front of me to criticize. That's a ton of money and I don't think anyone could honestly say what they'd do unless put in that situation. I still watch every video and I really am/was a fan.
@GymCrafter. Thanks for keeping it honest and real. You gained yourself a new sub.
Thank you, that means a ton!
Hi "some guy named Tim". Lol! I just saw Coop's first part reply/rambling- which is the only one I could tolerate. I new he had a massive ego, but I didn't know it was so fragile. Lol! He clearly doesn't want to be part of the home gym community. He wants to be THE home gym community. Every other RUclips personality there are in some way "competition" to each. Yet, you all support each other. After hearing that "competition" excuse, I'm not sure if that's coming from his ego or Pillar 4's policy. Again, great job on that post!
Thanks, I appreciate that insight!
😂😂😂 this is so sad. Y'all idolize people on the internet way to much. "I want the old coop back" like you were a couple lmfao
Yeh I don't understand why tim would critique coops way of review gym equipment or handling his own business.
Maybe we were a couple! Maybe he broke my heart and all I can do is sit in my rack and cry. Thanks for making me feel bad about it by posting laughing emojis. I don't think I'll ever recover.
@@GymCrafterthose laughing emojis are especially cruel
I do miss quality content from GGR. I started watching his content less and l less when he went from preaching about American quality to pushing.... possibly American designed but Chinese built equipment. The reason though is simple. He got sponsored. Now.... imo Rogue and similar companies have gotten complacent... and the home gym market has exploded over the last 5 years and there ARE other viable brands out there. But that's just it.... there's MULTITUDES of brands out there yet GGR pimps for the same usual ones relentlessly. Mainly.... REP these days. To the point i feel like he might be on REP's payroll, haha. Not saying REP is bad. It's just ALL GGR ever recommends now. Then there's nuobells.... whatever.... rower brand is the current fad... etc. He was even whoring out for tonal for fuck's sake.
My point is it's just so painfully obvious when GGR puts out content..... commercials really.... because they were paid to do so.
Then there's just the fact.... there's only so many barbell collar, dumbbell, barbell, weight plate videos i can take. I don't need about a dozen videos a year on..... dumbbells.
The home gym market is huge nowadays. And i get when people think home gym they immediately assume the bare bones equipment. Rack, bench, barbell and dumbells. And i get GGR came from the dreaded crossfit fad world and thats all crossfitters want.... barbells... dumbbells.... racks... and benches. Oh... and friggin kettlebells. Thats the funny thing though... you dont see many kettlebell videos from GGR. Its pretty much exclusively dumbbells. That said..... ive been in the home gym game for 7 years (Been a gym nut for longer though). Ive grown with the rise in popularity of the hobby. Unlike GGR though.... i never participated in what i think is the insanity that is crossfit. I mean if thats what gets you moving.... great... i guess. But imo its such a dumbass way to train. To each their own. My point is..... ive grown beyond the rack... barbell... dumbbell... benches.... etc. I want to see reviews on ACTUAL gym equipment. Shit from like.... Bolt fitness.... Fettle Fitness.... or any other brand that's making actual machines for residential use but even light commercial use but at residential prices. Review some Legend Fitness equipment.... PRIME Fitness equipment.... Sorinex... remember them? GGR used to pimp them out back in the day. But brands like ForceUSA... i just found a local supplier... or i should say former local supplier (i moved) out in New Lennox Illinois called Peak Strength. They make... err... sell some quality looking machines for resonable prices... imo. Powertec makes some affordable price friendly home gym equipment.... and theyre an OG company as far as home fitness goes. I dont think ive seen a GGR review on ANYTHING from Powertec.
There's just SOOOOOOO much potential content to be made out there... yet i feel like GGR sticks to the same repetitive videos.. over and over again. The review game has GOT to be hard to get into as.... you yourself is pretty much funding your channel and im sure youtube money is damn near nonexistent... and gym equipment.. even the "affordable" stuff.... isnt exactly cheap. I'm willing to drop $2-3,000 on something like a leg curl/extension selextorized machine. But GGR will likely say thats "impractical"... as they then pimp out the Hydrow.... equally expensive and just as much a space hog. I'm more into bodybuilding though. Even when i powerlifted i still did and thoroughly enjoyed doing accessory work. Id LOVE some reviews on seated leg curl/extension machines.. real ones not that titan fitness-like plate loaded crap. A pec fly/rear delt combo machine. A leg press.... a hack squat machine.... a leg press/hacksquat combo machine. Seated calf machines..... pullover machines. Hell.... if someone could just review Fettle Fitness' entire catalog id be thrilled. Home gym hacks and reviews among others have been my go to.... mainly HGHR because i feel his "home gym" mindset is much... MUCH more in line with mine. Hes the only guy ive found who's seemingly even heard of Fettle Fitness..... but even hes only reviewed 4 pieces from them of the DOZENS they offer. But at least HGHR mixes it up and is into more of a bodybuilding way of life.
I stumbled on this video and figured it would be gold. You did not disappoint. And now i'll check out your channel. So... while you didn't do it for clout... you mightve gotten a new viewer. Because youve said what most of us have been thinking for years. GGR is forever stuck in a "if you're just starting out in your home gym journey we're the channel for you.... watch part... 1,143 on which dumbbell to buy." Haha
Edit...less than a minute after posting:..... hahaha haha. Like I said, I'm checking out your channel and the most recent video posted a few hours ago...... you're unboxing a Hydrow. I wonder how much that company has spent on getting youtubers to pitch their product. You're about the 1,000th review of the hydrow ive seen now. I don't get it. It's a rower.... pull string back and forth. What's there to review? How many reviews of it does youtube really need? I'll keep scrolling but not a great start... just saying, haha
Good insights, thanks for taking the time to post this!
Thank You.. It is upsetting when an individual is making a MOCKERY out of the fitness community.. LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
Well put, and thank you!
First of all, anybody who did not agree with your post about Coop is just WRONG as every word you said is the absolute Truth
Thnkx for having the Guts to make the Video as no other influencer did. I Have Been Preaching this Exact Same Words About Coop For Over A Year Now.
You were the only one that would acknowledge what I was saying. No other influencer would reply back to me anything negative about Coop. It was like they thought he was Special.
He was okay, nothing great as an orator, his channel was the only place to get a decent look at a piece of equipment at first, then other influencers came along. I first thought him genuine but not long after, a fourth grader could tell he was a sell out, you didn't have to be real smart.
Bottomline is this, he started off and didnt know if his idea was gonna make it then Rogue started paying him off and sending him free stuff, that's what allowed him to do it for the 2nd year, and on and on but there is a way to have been paid all he got and keep his INTEGRITY but he didnt care, HE SOLD OUT, and SPIT IN THE VIEWERS FACES BY LYING TO US ON EVERY VIDEO.
ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO THINKS COOP IS HONORABLE AND NOT A SELL OUT JUST SIMPLY ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE WRONG.
To those who say everyone wouldve taken the money, most people would but there are ways to keep your honor and take the money.
Thanks, I appreciate the support.
He just a kid; he needs to make a living and put food on the table for his family
Well… I don’t know what I’m talking
Last time I questioned about his perspective, I was bullied so hard in one of his videos
Sorry if you felt bullied, that's never my intention. I'm never against making money. I'm against lying to make money.
@@GymCrafter not bullied by you, but Coop’s viewers or “fake accounts” in one of his videos.
I actually agree with you. I joined the home gym community not long ago, and Coop looks like a salesman to me. He pushes crappy gym equipments all the time
He IS just a kid and he DOES have to make a living. He just can’t do it the way he is doing and also have the respect of everyone he is lying to. But yes.. you are not wrong.
I hated how Coop recommended Rogue all the time.
You just knew he was going to recommend Rogue.
Gym Crafter,keep it real.💪
Thanks! I appreciate that.
We love Nuobells. And quit Playa hating
Lots of people do... Until they don't. Glad yours haven't broken YET. But they will.
FWIW this sounds like every niche community who "discovered an artist first" and then the artist "sells out." Everyone wants the old stuff. Meanwhile the new stuff is selling 10x better. That's coop. New coop is plugged in to what the average person is interested in, and that's often stuff that the old hardcore audience has no interest in, like a Tonal for example.
While I disagree that’s what’s going on with Coop (more complicated for some of us in this case), I literally lold at your comment because you nailed it in many instances.
He still has a ton of fans, I'd never take that away from him. For some people, his years of experience plus 5 minutes looking at a product are all they need. For me, I need more. I've bought too many things that looked great out of the box and 6 months later turned out to be a pile of garbage. So many people bought those NuoBells on his recommendation and are now stuck with broken dumbbells that they can't even get apart to put the replacement parts in.
And I love your analogy, that's very well put. Some people like new Metallica, some like the old. Same with U2 and a bunch of other bands that have been around for a long time. At 53, I've definitely entered my, "you kids just don't know... Back in my day..." stage of life.😂
Gunna be honest. Coop hasn't been it for a while. Don't blame him at all for selling out, I would do the exact same thing in his place. Make millions and just retire and live the dream! I find myself watching way more Gluck videos nowadays anyway.
Yeah, I watch more Gluck than anyone else anymore. Met him at the show and he's exactly who you see on his channel. Really great guy. Winnie was super cool too.
Honestly this is an L take, all this drama seems unnecessary. Why you making so many claims when you are just assuming the real story with some stuff. The meet in Germany prob was a contracted thing, the man still has to make money plus he has a family and I think a pregnant wife (not sure about that). Also the shirt thing is suchhh a stretch like why does that even matter and I think only happened a few times. Also he publicly made an apology vid about the plates which seemed like a genuine mistake but no reason to bash the guy for. Regarding his vids, ur acting like he dosent criticize products and just sells out. So many of his vids he’s talking crap about rogue not being innovate and subpar at times, and tht there’s so many better options than nuobells etc. he is still helping the community a lot and helped so many people with choosing the right products to this date. If anything he’s regurgitating a lot of REP stuff which makes sense since they are releasing some banger stuff. This video seems so whiny and if anything makes me not want to come to the next event cuz you make it seem like everyone there is like this.
Cool story, bro.
@@GymCrafter I jUsT wAnT tHe OLD CoOp BaCk!! 😂🤡
@@turbochampx and the award for most original attempt at trolling goes to... Do better, bro, do better. If you want to try to get under my skin, maybe try a comment that isn't already here like ten time. 😂
@@GymCrafter “do better” the irony, ur def triggered, just stating the obvious like others have
@@turbochampx Thank you and several others for always having to have the last word! Every comment with a response helps my channel grow! If you thinking I'm triggered keeps the comments coming, feel free to continue to think that! But seriously, try to at least be original!
Bro, I feel like you and everyone else who is complaining about Coop are just jealous of his success. Quit complaining about his success and try to be just as successful as Coop, if not more successful
I think you're being too hard on him. If he made seven or eight figures on selling garage gym reviews then kudos for him. You mentioned Nuobells was the only company that people can make money on for adjustable dumbbells. But at the time if you want super quick adjusting dumbbells that was really the best product in my opinion.. same holds true for the new rep Pepin dumbbells. I think they are outrageously priced and I'm sure rep and pepin are going to make a lot of money from them. They're really good quality don't get me wrong but super expensive and outrageous in my opinion. Nothing wrong with success and injecting ego into the equation produces more views which ultimately makes him more successful. I'm sure he's getting some kickbacks from companies but his reviews are spot on as far as criticisms and praises. I don't think he sold out.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to post this comment. And yeah, for sure good for him! When you have a family to support and someone offers you that much money, most people would take it and never look back. That said, I truly am/was a fan. I've always been forthright in saying exactly what I feel, and this vid does that very well.
I'm a PowerBlocks guy. Even after seeing the PeppinXRep set at the show this weekend, I have no plans to upgrade my 10 year old PowerBlocks. I know too many people with completely destroyed NuoBells to ever be nice to them, though. Not cool to sell a product you know is going to break. Repeatedly.
To phrase this as just, "Coop didn't attend Home Gym Con and he should have because catering to home gym owners is what made him" is misleading. Let's be real, this is a business decision/negotiation. Coop would have given Home Gym Con a massive amount of additional visibility. That is worth some amount of money. It seems that they could not reach an agreement as to how much that is worth.
I can start my own "Home Gym Expo" and just because I'm catering to home gym owners, would Coop be (morally) obligated to attend? No.
While I get what you are saying, it's not a competition. It's not about him giving the con more visibility. It's about being there for your fans. But as I put in the pinned comment, Coop and I have exchanged emails. While we don't agree on everything, we agree on a lot more than most people who have watched this and his response videos think. I appreciate your comment, I always like to hear different points of view. The world is too full of people with closed minds!
This video is really sad thing because it doesnt support the home garage gym community at all. Garage gym community should be supporting each other not speaking bad or competing against each other success or character. Tim shouldnt have posted this video to reflect off based off of rumors. Tim should of spoke to Coop face to face like a man to resolve any issues you had with him or GGR. Why focus so much on one person? People have the choice to buy what they want and it doesnt always have to be rogue or even rep fitness. You say theres gonna be lots of haters on this video but youre the one posting this negative video without even speaking with coop face to face first like a real man shows what type of person you are. The video is lame because there is no need for drama in the home garage gym community. All products can break there is no such thing in reviewing the best perfect home gym equipment. Thanks for exposing yourself 🤡. We can all move on now and continue lifting. Thank you.
You are very welcome! And you give me way too much credit. This video is way worse than lame. But I'll take the kind words from a random person on the internet anyway!
no need to thank me with sarcasm. I hope you'll speak to Coop face to face like a real man and post a video about it to save your business. @@GymCrafter
@@MetalsForBrunch personal attacks get sarcasm. If you would like to actually dispute anything I said, I'm happy to point you to the videos, still live on his channel, that back up every single point. Call me a clown, I'm gonna act like one. I'm happy to talk to him face to face, but based on his over the top and triggered response, I'm not sure he could keep his composure.
And why did I do this in a public video? That's a great question. First, he's not in charge of his channel anymore, Pillar 4 is. Google what has happened to Sports Illustrated since they got involved and you'll see what I mean. Second, people trust him blindly and they shouldn't. If making this public helps even one person make a better decision, it was worth it. And if he would just change the channel name to Garage Gym Marketing, it would solve the whole issue.
calling you a clown isn't a personal attack when you're saying all this negative stuff in your video about someone you haven't talked to before. If the buyers are buying things blindly it's their fault, not coops. Its like saying all the content creators who post misinformation on tik Tok should all be responsible for all the viewers who believe them. If you have problems with pillar 4 and Coop speak to them directly. Please use your negative fuel to make gains instead. @@GymCrafter very disappointed in you Tim.
@@MetalsForBrunch Done. We talked. All good.
why would you ever take american products over german/swedish? that's not consumer friendly advice
Um, that's a weird comment since we can't get a lot of German or Swedish products here in the US. And we like to support our own country. And some of the best barbells and training gear in the world are made here. And, real consumer friendly advice isn't reommending gear by the country of origin. There is some real crap made in Sweden and Germany as well as the US. Same with quality gear, lots of it from many different countries. Where it's made has ZERO bearing on its quality. HOW it's made and the company's standards are what's important.
@@GymCrafter why be nationalistic about it? I get wanting to source from countries with good compensation for their workers and with good conditions for consumers, but sweden and germany has usa beat there as well. shouldn't a reviewer promote the best product? coop also doesn't just have a US audience, seems like it'd be unethical on multiple levels of him to hold too much of a US bias, if there are two shows, one with better and more gear in europe, and one in USA that also has good equipment but perhaps less of it, then of course he should look into the one in europe, and vice versa
@@lusteraliaszero I have a very small channel and buy almost everything with my own money. I review what I buy for myself, can get, and can afford. And you are 100% WRONG. Country of origin has ZERO to do with the quality of the product. Every country makes some crap and some very nice stuff. Being made in Sweden or Germany doesn't make a product anything except from Sweden or Germany. If you want to say a barbell from company X is better than a barbell from company Y, that's a factual and fair statement. Saying one is better than the other because of where they are made is you being nationalistic, not me.
@@GymCrafter I didn't say country of origin makes innately better stuff, I went out of my way to say "and vice versa", to indicate it goes both ways.
So impressive that you would turn down "high seven figures, well into eight figures" (~$7.5-$15 MILLION) to remain independent. 🤣
I've watched Coop since his first video. While SOME content creators MIGHT think he's changed, I suspect the VAST MAJORITY of viewers and subscribers (e.g., me) still LOVE his videos as much as ever, if not more.
So, Coop, if you see this, just know this guy--who I've never seen nor heard of till now--speaks only for himself and a teeny, tiny minority of envious wannabes, haters, and trolls.
Keep on keepin on! You're one of the most informative and entertaining creators on YT, and P4's acquisition hasn't changed that one iota.
Frankly, I think you not attending HGC was an admirable way to let lessor creators have the spotlight that you would otherwise unintentionally and deservedly steal from them. Kudos! 👍👍
I appreciate your feedback and I know you aren't alone. It's real easy to say what you'd do when you don't have an 8 figure offer in front of you. Most people would take that as fast as they could get a pen out to sign the agreement. I only made this vid because I am/was truly a fan. I DO see a huge difference, but I look for different things than others. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment, thank you!
I have no idea why Coop didn't attend HGC but I doubt it was out of some noble idea to let others get the spotlight. The criticisms are valid; no way he just "forgot" strength co in his recent plate round-up (he gave them awards in the past). And it is troubling how he can review one product - say it is superior to Rogue - and still recommend Rogue over that product. The motive is clear - he's now driven by the dollars. I watch his reviews now solely because he gets access to the latest releases before virtually everyone else. But I watch Gluck (and will now watch this gentleman) to get an honest unbiased review (as he did recently when he unequivocally would not recommend nuobells because they simply don't hold up under heavy use).
@@Mench951 Stating there’s no way someone could genuinely forget/overlook something is an empty claim. Could be true or untrue, so it’s meaningless. And it’s nonsense to claim/imply that Rogue’s money is controlling him when he plainly tells his massive audience that a competitors product is better. By analogy, I recognize and admit that the 2023-24 Celtics are substantially better than the Lakers, but I much prefer watching-and recommend others watch-the Lakers because the Celtics’ style of play is relatively boring. In other words, even when they appear to conflict, two things can be simultaneously true. It is both common and perfectly acceptable to prefer/recommend products/services for subjective reasons rather than objective ones.
@@cefrayer I take what you're saying as it is nonsense to suggest one can truly know another's mind or intent. Of course you're correct but I think it's a fair inference that Coop didn't just forget a popular US manufacturer of plates. I also note you had no issue inferring the intent of the gentleman who posted this video. To me he seemed genuine; to you, a troll. I disagree. As for your analogizing equipment recommendations to which basketball team you prefer to watch, I think the analogy is inapt. There is money involved here in terms of sponsorship and affiliations and I think it's reasonable to infer that money may play a role in what products are being more heavily favored. Last thought: Coop is a critic. That's his job and I would agree that the home gym community is better for having people like him critique equipment. But as a critic, he ought to be open to receiving some criticism as well. Something I thought this gentleman did with respect.
@@Mench951 I agree that this guy seems MOSTLY genuine, yet fails in the most basic sense in that he has no idea why Coop wasn't at HGC. And you should re-read my comment, which does not refer to HIM as a troll. As to your inference, I think it's more accurate to call it an assumption. Lastly, Coop is literally a reviewer (GGR), not a critic (GGC), thought critiques are a part of his reviews. I appreciate your respectful and thoughtful comments.
You are silly, everyone their bashing “Coop” from Garage Gym Reviews I am sure is just envious. We should be happy for other peoples successes.
Guy created an empire out of his garage making videos on gym equipment, do you not like the ethics of his business practices? What would you do differently, do you not have skin in the game, is everyone else not driving traffic to affiliate links, and trying to make a profit? Guy just did it better than everyone else and is the most revered in the garage gym space.
You making this video is out of the goodness of your heart, or because controversy and “drama” type content drives traffic to your channel. Which in turn increases subscribers, which in turn helps profit your hobby.
It’s okay, nobody is mad. You can do all this and still want to inspire people to be healthier and start home gyms, for themselves, their families and all that. But you do you, nobodies hating on your motives.
@@maximumgear I guess I don’t see the bias as much as the rest of you then, it’s usually a high quality entertaining review on things that interest me. I use it for what it is, someone’s opinion. I wouldn’t make a big purchase of any one persons opinion.
@@MarkPMaguire fair enough 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Nothing wrong at all with making money. I really hate people that don't want anyone to be successful and you make a great point that more people need to hear. This video is genuinely how I feel, so I made it. Same way I'd tell a friend that I thought they had lost their way.
Selling things is one thing. Selling things without honesty or character is not cool. It's why so many people despise commissioned sales people. They are out for money first and helping others second.
I still watch every one of his videos. He's a million times better at doing this than I'll ever be. I'm 53, I stopped being jealous of others a long time ago. I quite an extraordinarily high paying corporate job to do this because I wanted to help people. So when people tell me I'd have done the same thing, I know from personal experience, I would not. If I would, I'd still be slogging it out at my old job instead of doing this for literally nickels.
And thanks for sharing your thoughts, I really appreciate it. I love hearing all the different opinions. It's too bad we live in a world where more if this type of discourse isn't possible without someone getting made and yelling at people.
Okay this guys a cook, unsubscribing from this mediocre channel
Oh nooooooo! Whatever will I do without your sub?!?!?
@@GymCrafter lol honestly fair play, but point remains the same, you were in the wrong for taking personal shots at a man who’s built success to provide for his family by doing the most transparent, unbiased reviews that at least I generally see
Definitetly unfollowing this guy. There's no reason to try to bash someone else's name for your bennefit. That's all this is.
Sorry to see you go. Coop's not mad, we've talked back channel. You shouldn't be either. But I respect you only following people that you also respect. Hopefully we'll see you back someday!
This is bizarre. Why do you feel the need to make a video solely about another reviewer? It’s called success and Coop has made a living out of what he loves doing and it’s his decision on what he puts out. If you don’t like his new content, it’s quite simple to unsubscribe.
I subscribe for videos of all gym content, whether I take the reviewers words for the quality of the product is my decision at the end of the day.
I’ll be honest, I unsubscribed from your channel because you threw a fit about Rogue not giving you the time of day and wouldn’t even show the product your subscribers asked of you. Granted you knew nothing about the product, it was right in front of you for a “Quick Look” and to give your viewers a glimpse into what the product looks and feels like.
For some reason your videos still pop up. Sadly this one did too and reaffirmed my reason for unsubscribing. Why am I even here? 😂
Thanks for actually pointing specific things out that concerned you instead of calling names. I'm happy to address reasonable people that act like adults....
I could care less about the Rogue booth. I wasn't upset that they ignored ME. I was upset because I showed them a bunch of comments from potential customers asking for a walk through on a product I knew nothing about. The questions people were asking were very specific and a "quick look" wouldn't have helped them. I got up early, went to the booth before they were busy, to help THEM, not myself or Rogue. They could have cared less and were very rude about saying "we aren't doing any media". Why even go? It was a convention, NOT a trade show. Conventions are specifically for your fans and to say that you don't want to help people asking to give you their money is offensive.
As for why a public video? That's a great question. First, he's not in charge of his channel anymore, Pillar 4 is. Google what has happened to Sports Illustrated since they got involved and you'll see what I mean. Second, people trust him blindly and they shouldn't. If making this public helps even one person make a better decision, it was worth it. And if he would just change the channel name to Garage Gym Marketing, it would solve the whole issue.
Sorry to see you go, but I am who I am and I speak my mind, sometimes to my detriment. But i stand behind what I said and have noticed that NONE of the negative comments have called out a single thing I actually said (you can see proof of each point on videos on his channel right now), only that I called him out publicly. People can shoot the messenger all they want, but it doesn't change the message.
Oh, and I shot 20 reels/shorts at the con and only one was negative. And based on what actually happened. I don't think that's a bad mix.
@@GymCrafter appreciate the reply. I was actually the first one on your page requesting a video of the FM-6, as I came across your channel and saw that you were actively filming at HomeGymCon. None of the subscribed tubers I had were putting anything out, so I appreciated that you were doing so for those of us tuned in. I didn’t request a specific review, I just wanted an up close look at the setup, as all the photos online were essentially renders and didn’t provide a full picture. I just wanted a glimpse into what I was preparing to buy.
Of course a review and walkthrough would have been preferred and it sucks that Rogue treated you that way. I agree, that was a shitty move, but I feel like they had some type of “gag order” on social media reviews, but they could have handled the response better.
Back to the Coop topic, I just don’t think it’s in your best interest to be “attacking” a fellow RUclipsr for what he does with his channel. You could have just made a comment about it in one of your videos, but you decided to make an 8+ minute exclusive trying to bash the man’s channel and decisions. I’m not trying to defend Coop, as he’s just another Tuber that I enjoy watching. You even said so yourself that you’ve been watching his videos a long time, so you can see how he’s grown his “brand”. You should be commending him for his success, but instead you throw shade at him for his decisions. You shouldn’t throw hate on another man’s success, even if you don’t agree with how he got there.
I think you’re a very personable and genuine Tuber, I appreciate that about you. You try to deliver what your subscribers want. However, the whole Rogue bit and now this was kind of a turn off to me. I didn’t subscribe to watch a soap opera. I’m here for the gym stuff!
@@ronaldpena6760 Thanks for that. I'm always happy to listen to the adults in the room and the way you give feedback puts you in that category. I will share one thing I told Coop back channel... When you are a huge public figure, emails and YT comments don't make any impact at all. They largely get ignored. I truly wanted to get his attention so that he understood how a lot of people have been feeling (not all, but a lot). The only way to do that with a large public figure is to do it publicly. I also told him that if I misjudged that, and he would have responded to an email, I apologized.
I know it seems like trolling and a large number of people won't believe it was anything else, but I genuinely meant what i said in the video. I'd have said the same thing in the same way to my closest friend. The only proof I have that it wasn't for views is that I haven't made ANY other content about it and am back to my regularly scheduled programming. If I was in it for clout, his 3 response videos are fertile ground for a bunch more content for anyone trying to make this into more clicks and views. We have spoken back channel, and while we don't agree with each other, we both have the same goal of helping folks build awesome garage gyms! There are not hard feelings on either side.
And you can be assured, I already have almost 15 vids that need to be edited and none of them are negative in any way. Dropping a 45 minute wrap up of Home Gym Con tonight where I try to cover all of the incredible highlights from that event. Thanks again for your feedback, I really do appreciate it!
And if you ever feel about me the way I felt about Coop, please feel free to try to tell me in any way you can. None of us is above being told we have strayed a little and I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong!
Boo hoo.
Thank you for your insightful comment that genuinely adds to the conversation!🙄
This video is super lame.
Thanks for watching my lame video and posting an equally lame comment! YT doesn't care as long as you comment. Every one helps me, so thanks for helping to promote my lameness!
super cringy. really sad video. you come off super jealous, the accusations are baseless.
Thanks for the kind words! You seem like a swell person!
@@GymCraftertalk about not acknowledging the post’s content. More like a mandatory response in order to possibly affect the algorithms. So Coopish! 🤣
@@narigon3942 Agreed! Every point I make in the vid can be backed up with at least one video currently posted on his channel. That's why none of the haters are arguing those points, just name calling. I grew up in the 80's and trying to hurt each other's feelings was an Olympic sport for us. Nothing they could ever say will hurt my feelings, but I'm always happy to sling back!
I stopped watching awhile back. It became blatantly obvious that he was reviewing and discussing products that he didn't"t actually know anything about.
Yeah, if all you do is reviews, you run out of stuff at some point and have to punt a lot. It's a big reason why I make so much content that isn't reviews. I can only use so many things enough to actually give a good review!
This was weak...unsubscribing - clout chasing is what wrong with the internet - if someone is successful they sold out - make a video about joe rogan going to spotify next!!! if you tag him it in maybe a couple people will see it...
You will be missed.
This video definitely should have been a DM dude. Why did you make this. What did you hope to accomplish. Does coop see this and feel really bad and vow to change his ways? Youre a competitor. If you think hes falling short, put out better content and take some of that share. Naybe Gluck would agree with everything you said, but i have no idea because he doesnt post weepy drama for clout - he posts great home gym content (like you should focus on)
That's a great question. First, he's not in charge of his channel anymore, Pillar 4 is. Google what has happened to Sports Illustrated since they got involved and you'll see what I mean. Second, people trust him blindly and they shouldn't. If making this public helps even one person make a better decision, it was worth it. And if he would just change the channel name to Garage Gym Marketing, it would solve the whole issue. As for clout, I'm 53 and stopped caring about that kind of thing years ago. It's what happens when you grow up.
@GymCrafter I notice you didn't provide any realistic or concrete example of why you made this video or what you hope to accomplish. As for changing hearts and mind..Coop still reviews products. If I watch one of his reviews, I still get a very solid idea of the pros and cons of the products. It's still a review. You don't have to agree with his picks, but I don't exactly think he is lying about any of the products.
As for growing up, at 53 why are you wasting your time and effort "calling out" another competitor. Even if your intentions are good...I don't know you, you SAY you aren't in it for clout or views, but why on earth would I believe you? I have no reason to. And that fact seriously hampers how this video will be received by lots of people. So I'll say it again. If you think coop has changed and isn't meeting your arbitrary standard for impartial reviews, well that seems like a good opportunity for you to fill that space seeing how you're a competitor in the say space. Or you can stoke this weird hero drama and raise a lot of questions about your intentions and motives.
@@dewafelbakkers If I was in it for clout or views, I'd already be making responses to his THREE triggered response videos aimed at me. I'm not and don't plan to. I said what I had to say and that's it for me. His channel is just like QVC now. He gives good overviews of things he's looked at for 5 minutes. And for a lot of people, that's all they need. He's clearly better at YT than I am and I'm glad you get value from watching him. We all shop for things in different ways. But again, he's not in charge anymore. Pillar 4 is. And, IMO, they will slowly destroy what he built, just like they do to most other web properties they buy. Not kidding, Google the Sports Illustated thing for a great example.
And I appreciate you not posting and ghosting. Respect for being willing to have an adult discussion about it and not just call names.
@@GymCrafter tRigGeReD. Come on man lol.
Like really, he took time out of his day to make a point by point response to your call out video and that's how you characterize it? 3 TRIGGERED responses! Jesus..and you're on here chirpign about adult conversations. Why don't you send him an email and try out an adult conversation yourself?
Cringe
Thanks for the input! I'll keep it in mind going forward.
very disappointed in you man. you let us down. @@GymCrafter