Back-Focus 101: The Petzval Lens ft. William Optics RedCat51

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2025

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  • @AstroBlender
    @AstroBlender  3 года назад +17

    One addendum to the video: You should always try and get your camera sensor as close to the filter as possible. You may have seen that I have a 11mm spacer ring between my camera and filter wheel. The camera should actually be directly threaded into the filter wheel, and the spacer placed on the other side. The way I have it set-up in the video isn't a problem as I'm using a 1" sensor with 36mm filters, but in general you want to get the camera sensor as close to the filters as possible to avoid vignetting. Thanks all and I hope this was helpful!

    • @AhmedAlqallaf
      @AhmedAlqallaf 3 года назад

      I think I found the answer of my question here

    • @alanalain4884
      @alanalain4884 2 года назад

      Thank you for that additional tip... Useful.

  • @NorthwesternOntarioAstronomy
    @NorthwesternOntarioAstronomy 3 года назад +3

    The most informative astrophotography channel on RUclips. Cody never leaves out a single detail in his tutorials.

  • @hobbeeswe7472
    @hobbeeswe7472 5 месяцев назад

    You are the MAN! Your films are so EASY and EDUCATIONAL I often start laughing. THANKS for ALWAYS having the answers to my issues presented PERFECTLY !!! You just also sold me the Redcat, they should send you a sales commission :D

  • @Landice100
    @Landice100 3 года назад +1

    I have been waiting for someone to show me how to attach and use everything you have shown here. Perfect video. Thank you!

  • @romteed8733
    @romteed8733 3 года назад +4

    Hi Cody, thanks for this video, it's very informative especially for an older guy that's just bought a Redcat 51 and is a newbie to astrophotography.

  • @stilianoskalatzis7491
    @stilianoskalatzis7491 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for yet an other great and informative video Cody, I've learned a lot from watching your posts. Keep up the amazing work.

  • @SIGP229TPOC
    @SIGP229TPOC 3 года назад +3

    I've been thinking of purchasing this, but I hadn't seen a good review (out of the many on RUclips). This is, hands down, the best review and you answered all of my questions and gave me insight into the product which I didn't even think about. Thanks very much!

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад +1

      Oh thanks! It’s not so much a reviews as to obtain proper back-focus, but I’m glad you found value in it!

    • @SIGP229TPOC
      @SIGP229TPOC 3 года назад

      @@AstroBlender My mistake and no disrespect intended. Edit: "Hands down, the best Redcat51 proper back-focus tutorial". 😁

  • @redjr242
    @redjr242 8 месяцев назад

    I'm a beginner astrophotographer and have been overwhelmed trying to understand backfocus and worried about getting it wrong. Thank you so much for making such a clear video that explains all of the details, with examples for all the different setups and accessories one could use!

  • @janetwillson3502
    @janetwillson3502 2 года назад

    This was the best video I have seen on setting up a ZWO camera with a filter drawer on a Redcat 51. THANK YOU!

  • @philbivins7133
    @philbivins7133 2 месяца назад

    Cody, I wanted to say Thank You for this video. Being a newbie, for my RC51 I was using the schematic supplied by ZWO for my 533MMPro. It was totally off, and I was not able to get any stars in focus. I shorten the back focus per your video. Now, the stars are in perfect focus! I am just blown away. I have a newfound faith that things are going to be OK. Thanks again.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  2 месяца назад

      I'm glad you found it helpful!

  • @Matt_10203
    @Matt_10203 2 года назад +2

    These are some of the most helpful videos on astrophotography as not many people discus these topics in such detail.
    Edit: just bought a redcat 51, excited for it to get here!

  • @marvinwhisman3333
    @marvinwhisman3333 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoy your videos and learn so much. Thanks for going into so much detail. It really does help. Your whole back focus series is great.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      I’m glad to hear that, thanks!

  • @John-y4w9c
    @John-y4w9c 2 месяца назад

    Hi Cody, Great video on the Petzval lens. I thought you might be interested to know that I found out for the WO Redcat Minicat 51 that the back focus range is between 30 - 58mm. Below 30 and above 58 focus is not achievable. For the Minicat it means installing only a single 20mm spacer, or a zwo filter holder, is all that's needed to get 38mm of back focus with an asi2600MC duo Air which has approx 18mm of spacing to the sensor. Makes for an extremely short imaging package. Keep up the very informative videos. Cheers John

  • @richardmadley7455
    @richardmadley7455 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much for explaining backfocus on the redcat ,great video

  • @steveweintraub1113
    @steveweintraub1113 3 года назад +2

    Great overview, thanks for this as well as all of your other videos. Very educational.
    Clear skies!

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      Hi Steve, thanks, I’m glad you liked it!

  • @bhattvd1
    @bhattvd1 2 года назад

    Thanks, Cody. I am getting my RC51 today. So I watched this video in preparation for that arrival!

  • @tigerchef1969
    @tigerchef1969 Год назад +1

    Thank God I came across your video

  • @Katzenrads
    @Katzenrads 2 года назад

    This was a very helpful video. I now understand what back spacers to buy. Thanks.

  • @CM-2000
    @CM-2000 Год назад

    Hi cody, your video is a great help to me as I am switching from DSLR to the 533MM with wheel. I also use the RC51 and agree with you on all points. I'm already looking forward to the results with this rig. Thank you very much! A fan greets you ;-) Helmet

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  Год назад +1

      Glad it was helpful! The 533MM Pro is a great camera!

  • @lupo2824
    @lupo2824 Год назад

    Thanks C. Got completely confused with my WO GT81 and the 6AIII Flattener/Reducer and all the competing numbers you can find and consider as to distances. (I've got also the Canon SL2 and the WO 48mm adapter).

  • @dn5101
    @dn5101 Год назад

    Wow, that's the best explanation so far. I've been on the edge about jumping into astrograph. Starcat or the redcat are what I am looking at as well as an orion quad. Think I'll go the William optic route.

  • @MrTapoutmma88
    @MrTapoutmma88 Год назад

    Hey Cody, got any videos on how to do all the wire set up?

  • @alangriffiths1432
    @alangriffiths1432 2 года назад

    Great video I am saving up for a second set up can you please give much information on what filters you use and what size for the filter draw you on the red cat thanks

  • @edcuervoreyes
    @edcuervoreyes 3 дня назад

    Hi Cody, I am not sure that all the information provided in the past about the Cat was correct. I might be wrong, but I think that the quadruplet Cats, while being quite tolerant, do have an optimal back focus value, which is 55 mm. Setting a different value and trying to resolve the problem with the front focus, results in coma towards the corners of the frame. You might not see that with that small sensor, but I do see them already with APS-C. In fact, when adding a filter with 2 mm thick glass, one should correct the back focus adding 0.65 mm, for a total of 55.65 mm (if I am not mistaken). It is only the Cat 91, which has a quintuplet design, that gives perfectly corrected stars within a broad range of back focus.

  • @TheMinds4theye
    @TheMinds4theye 4 месяца назад

    Great video thank you! One question.. Can you use the ZWO filter drawer shown with redcat and DSLR? or will the m42 size cause vignetting on a DSLR?

  • @markmayer9290
    @markmayer9290 3 года назад

    I watched a previous video in the back focus series in which you described the ZWO filter drawer, and based on this ordered one. It arrived to day and will be 'life changing' - just pop filters in and out, and no fiddling with the optical train. Also, when I do need to move the CMOS camera from one OTA to another, the filter drawer comes along. This is probably the most useful information I've picked up from Astro videos. RedCat 51 looks nice as well; would be a good guide scope for a long focal length SCT.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      I’m glad you found it useful! I personally don’t use guide scopes on anything longer than about 1,000mm as off-axis guiding is the way to go, but yeah it could work as a guidescope. Any guiding is definitely better than no guiding on most mounts.

  • @Styeeziez
    @Styeeziez 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the info but also the brevity. I like the no fluff style. A great lede drew me in and I’m ready to image. 👏

  • @blanejnasveschuk6351
    @blanejnasveschuk6351 3 года назад

    Excellent back focus presentation specific to the Red Cat 51. Quality, ease and versatility of this little scope, such an advantage for imaging larger DSOs.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      I’m glad you enjoyed it. I agree the RC51 is great. I’m excited the new RC71 launches in a few weeks!

  • @floringherman5874
    @floringherman5874 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for the video. It is very useful for me because i just bought a WO Redcat51 and I have the Asi 183MM Pro. I wanted a wide field scope, and I loved this one.

  • @johnengooyen
    @johnengooyen 3 года назад

    Perfect timing! I literally just put in an order for a RedCat51 before I saw this video!

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад +1

      Oh awesome, I’m sure you’ll love it!

  • @pippinjg
    @pippinjg 2 года назад

    I love this guy !!!!!!!! you have saved me countless hours .....

  • @2badger2
    @2badger2 3 года назад

    Great review! I just bought it today and your video makes it very clear how to hookup my Nikon DSLR cameras.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад +1

      Enjoy, it’s a super fun scope!

  • @DerHammer.
    @DerHammer. 2 года назад

    Hello,
    I recently bought the Redcat and am very happy with it.
    In the beginning I wanted to work with my DSLR and an Off Axis Guider. As far as I know, this is not possible with the Redcat because of the backfocus. But a guiding scope can be mounted without any problems. So that is not a problem.
    Greetings from Austria

  • @ozzielfc1568
    @ozzielfc1568 3 года назад +1

    Great video Cody. I've just received my Redcat 51 and have the 183MC. Can you tell me what images I can expect from this setup. I'll be shooting from class 2 - 3 skies in just outside of Perth, Australia so probably no need for filters. thanks again

  • @johnkasianowicz6536
    @johnkasianowicz6536 17 дней назад

    You show that the optical elements inside the scope can move considerably when the focuser is rotated. Assuming the telescope is used solely for astrophotography (i.e., objects at infinity), is the rearmost element nearly at the closest distance to the rear M48 adapter?

  • @alimaleki217
    @alimaleki217 Год назад

    Another great video; thanks Cody!

  • @markmorel1721
    @markmorel1721 2 года назад

    Thanks. Can I use a filter drawer with the Redcat 51 and a DSLR/Mirrorless camera?

  • @AntonioPena1
    @AntonioPena1 3 года назад

    Happy to see your video on back focusing, I use a RedCat 51 for both Astrophotography and terrestrial with great results, I use a DSLR camera for now and I always always curious if I can use a filter on this lens with DSLR, thanks for the explanation. Great video

  • @NewtoAstrophotography
    @NewtoAstrophotography 7 месяцев назад

    What’s the numbers on the back of the red cat towards the camera? Does turning it do something?

  • @michaelclancy7874
    @michaelclancy7874 2 года назад

    Cody: Thank you for this video. I have a REDCAT 51 with the exact spacers in the video ( no filter wheel) and a 183MC camera. I am using a ZWO ASI AIR Plus. I have a Skywatcher go mount. In preview, I cannot get a clear focus on anything. Last night I was staring at Jupiter. Clearly see it with my binoculars. No such luck with my Redcat. Any thoughts? ( 55mm back focus) Thx Mike

  • @NewtoAstrophotography
    @NewtoAstrophotography 7 месяцев назад

    Any chance you can make a video on how to then take photos and get focused with this setup? I try and do live view and I can’t see anything from my screen and when I take photos I don’t see anything. I’m ready to give up

  • @AstroQuest1
    @AstroQuest1 3 года назад

    Very informative video Cody. The backfocus (or lack of) is another plus for that Redcat51. This is on the top my list when I get another scope - won't be this year since I just got a new scope. Ironically, I discovered the caliper trick recently and have been using them in place of the spacer wrench, it works well. Also there is a grub screw for that ZWO filter drawer to hold in the drawer in the proper place. I mention that because I was imaging recently and is must have come loose during a flip or something so my images had an artifact on part of field edges - fortunately it was a small object so it did not matter. - Cheers Kurt

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад +1

      Oh that’s a bummer, at least you figure out the slippage before you did more imaging. When you get a RedCat51 I’m sure you’ll enjoy it, it’s a phenomenal optic.

  • @yosmith1
    @yosmith1 3 года назад

    Such a great OTA. I recently installed the 7 slot EFW along with a Pegasus Rotator backed with a asi2600mm pro....works fantastic...RedCat is just and amazing telescope. Thanks for the demo.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      Agreed! The 2600MM pro is a great choice too for this scope!

  • @alanalain4884
    @alanalain4884 2 года назад

    Thank you for this very informative video. I have a question though. When one uses this/telescope/lens with a DSLR for birding, will one get an upside down image view in camera when looking through the viewfinder or in llive view ? Thank you for any insight.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  2 года назад

      I use mine in live view all the time while birding. It is really designed as a "camera lens" and provides a correct-view image.

    • @alanalain4884
      @alanalain4884 2 года назад

      @@AstroBlender Thank you for your reply, greatly appreciated...

  • @GETTR2024
    @GETTR2024 3 года назад

    Thank you Thank you Thank you! I needed this tutorial!!

  • @promod1179
    @promod1179 2 года назад

    Thanks for the clear, concise video. Easy to follow... It's always nice to watch a video where there isn't a lot of jibber jabber like so many....

  • @ScandalBeats
    @ScandalBeats 9 месяцев назад

    Hi! I bought the redcat 51 v1.5 and a m48 t ring for canon EOS dslr. After taking the m48 t ring out the dust cap doesn’t fit the redcat 51 anymore… anyone know what in the world is happening?!?!

  • @henryriverasiervo
    @henryriverasiervo 2 года назад

    Hello astroBlender I have a issue with my red cat 51, william optic adapter and my canon RP does not wanna take the shoot but when I used my canon T7i everything work just fine no problem at all; any help?
    May be I'm missing something in the canon RP setting?

  • @stew8584
    @stew8584 3 года назад

    Good demo, I got the Space Cat ( Silver ) with my full spectrum Sony NEX 5T 16MP. Cheers.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      I love the look of the SpaceCat!

  • @ramankrishnamoorthy1308
    @ramankrishnamoorthy1308 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video its very clear. The canon you used, is it a Fullframe camera? I recently bought a redcat51 to use with a Nikon 5200. I have a ring and a 2"adaptor for the camera. Yesterday I tried to focus on a distant object but could not get to focus. Not sure where I am going wrong and look forward to some support.

  • @michaelclancy7874
    @michaelclancy7874 2 года назад

    My Redcat 51 has the exact same spacer set up for the 183MC camera. The only focus I can get is with the adjustment turned so the front lens is almost all the way in. Is this normal? Seems like I have no more adjustment. Would more back focus, say another 11 mm help? Thx, Mike

  • @AhmedAlqallaf
    @AhmedAlqallaf 3 года назад

    thank you this video is very useful for me, but I have a question, I have ZWO294mc with 36mm filters and EFW does it fit with WO RC51?

  • @catherinegrimes2308
    @catherinegrimes2308 2 года назад

    Very good video, many thanks for doing it.
    I connect telescopes to cameras using the telescope to Canon EOS adapter then a EOS to Fujifilm X mount adapter, I also have a direct M48 to Fujifilm X mount adapter as well. Or I can use the Canon EOS adapter then a EOS to EOS to ZWO camera adapter. I can also mount a 2X teleconverter between the two EOS adapters.

  • @2h4
    @2h4 Год назад

    how would I hook up a camera with ef-m lens mount to this?

  • @davidletz9123
    @davidletz9123 2 года назад

    Hi asrto-photo newbie here, just ordered a Red Cat 51, so this vid helps a lot! I know you have another video on how filters affect back focus, but you did not mention anything about it in this video. Is it critical to adjust back focus on this telescope? Thanks.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  2 года назад

      Glad I could help! The Petzval just needs to be close in terms of back-focus spacing. Once you’re in focus, you know the back-focus is correct, so adding a filter on a Petzval lens won’t really change things. Just re-focus after adding the filter and you’ll be good to go!

  • @FamiliaColl
    @FamiliaColl 2 года назад

    Right now I got a DSLR but I wanna add a filter drawer can I do that, redcat-filter drawer-dslr or is gonna be too long?

  • @uanesdeiro
    @uanesdeiro 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for the video which is very well explained!
    I need to understand a few things:
    The shopkeeper who sold me the RedCat51 told me that for use with the Reflex, the T2 ring is enough and I already have the right BackFocus, while other people have told me that in order to have the right BackFocus, I should add an extension. 4.7mm, because there are 44 of the Reflex, 11 of the T2 ring and therefore 4.7 are missing to get to 59.7; what do you think?
    I use a modified Canon Eos60D SLR and therefore I have an APS-c sensor which is smaller than the FullFrame, but despite this, the image at the edges is not perfect and this is strange, because a correct field is declared up to the FullFrame!
    Do you think the cause could be that I am missing these 4,7mm?
    Or would we need to intervene on the Tilt Corrector?
    Actually I tried and the image improved a bit, but not completely, because I think doing this Tilt adjustment is very difficult and I couldn't find a tutorial that explains well how it's done! The strange thing is that if I photofraph a bright star carrying it around the sensor up to the edges leaving the Bathinov mask inserted, the image is perfectly in focus!
    Thank you for a possible answer and I hope I was understanding, because I used the google translator.

  • @astroterrace
    @astroterrace 3 года назад

    My RedCat51 with 30mm adapter to ZWO camera with 12.5mm flange focus (actually there is no flange) allows me to focus almost perfectly. But can't focus at all when I connect Canon EOS M50 Mark II camera with 55mm adapter. With flange focus of 18mm, the back focus needed exceeds required 59.7. So, I need a right adapter to use the camera! Thanks for the video with clear explanation.

  • @TheUrbanAstronomer
    @TheUrbanAstronomer 3 года назад

    Great demo Cody!

  • @Sidecontrol1234
    @Sidecontrol1234 3 года назад

    This was super to watch.

  • @rudolfbenner4802
    @rudolfbenner4802 Год назад

    Very helpful. Thanks.

  • @thomasphennigan
    @thomasphennigan 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Cody . Late to this party but thought I’d ask anyway. Is it possible to achieve back focus on the RC 51 when using a DSLR and filter drawer ?
    Great channel !!!

    • @Ian-sk7by
      @Ian-sk7by 6 месяцев назад

      You actually don’t need to backfocus since the RC51 has a petzval-like design.

  • @Dame1999
    @Dame1999 3 года назад

    Do you get off-centered halos around bright stars on your Redcat? I've been getting them since I got my Redcat and can not figure out how to get rid of them

  • @geopolska
    @geopolska 3 года назад

    Hi,
    please shine a light of knowledge upon my head. I am having an issue with focusing my Cat along with DSLR. I literally can't see diffraction spikes, even when I hit magnifying button to zoom and get more help with focusing spikes are soo small it makes the process very difficult. It's just cat, T-ring and DSLR, no spacers. I've done some astrophotography in the past but with ED 80Pro and never experienced such a problem.

  • @brad1958
    @brad1958 2 года назад

    Very helpful, thanks!

  • @AzCrawler00
    @AzCrawler00 3 года назад

    My RedCat51, the latest revision purchased earlier this year, would not achieve focus at the specified backspacing of 59.7mm. ~55mm worked perfectly. James Lamb made the same observation from his first hand experience. This is not the first WO recommended spacing that has been incorrect in practical application from my sample set of five WO 'scopes.

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  3 года назад

      Thank you for the note! At least the good news is you can get to the proper back-focus just by focusing. In your case I’m guessing you just removed a spacer and then focused?

    • @AzCrawler00
      @AzCrawler00 3 года назад

      @@AstroBlender Yes, you got it.. Just rearranged some adapters to achieve ~55mm of back spacing to the sensor plane.

  • @thetruthabouteverything5399
    @thetruthabouteverything5399 2 года назад

    Would have been helpful seeing you attach the camera to the redcat instead of fitting the filter, fitting the m48 then next we see the camera on the scope. Did you have to screw the whole camera on? That's a bit awkward.

  • @skye7690
    @skye7690 11 месяцев назад

    Why are you trying to get 55mm Backfocus on a Petzval design that doesn't require it?

  • @ddiver7908
    @ddiver7908 2 года назад

    why does it look like there is black electrical tape on your zwo efw? 🤔

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  2 года назад

      There is. I have it covering the holes so dust doesn’t get in.

    • @ddiver7908
      @ddiver7908 2 года назад

      @@AstroBlender 😦 holes? might you pls be able to elaborate? why are there holes? a defective unit? is there any light leak? thank you!

    • @AstroBlender
      @AstroBlender  2 года назад

      ZWO drills and taps holes on both sides of the filter wheel so you can use their off-axis guider and bolt on cameras. I don’t use either of those (for now), so I put electric tape over the holes to prevent dust and light from leaking in.

  • @camrun2011
    @camrun2011 3 года назад

    I use rc51 with nikon d5600. Its still out of focus.

  • @void_presence
    @void_presence Год назад

    should really title these videos to reflect where in the series each episode is

  • @whatmattersmost6725
    @whatmattersmost6725 3 года назад

    First!

  • @dummag4126
    @dummag4126 2 года назад

    Please, stop to use DSLR for astrophotografy with little scope.....pixel are to big!! not cooled!!! ugly image with noise and square stars!