At least, is give some advantages into. The salvage is be easier. The rescue is more smooth(er rather than an open-water event). And... The true question, why the hell a mass of stupids moved in a ship into where it already listed to? Why?
@@szennyvizcsatorna2483Apparently the passengers, going onboard for a Western Electric company picnic, a day dedicated to fun in the sun saw it as a carnival ride. They went ‘ooh’ as it lists and ‘ahh’ as it adjusts, although a few passengers were suspicious. Things went bad when the ship listed to a 45 degree angle, as a refrigerator slid and crushed two people.
Aviation has the same story to tell. So many ways to screw up with massive loss of life, and the most devastating case happens in a foggy airport with one of the two planes barely airborne.
It's aggravating when post like this are made with no explanation of the event. So here it is. "The Eastland was experiencing periodic problems with her stability while loading and unloading cargo and passengers, and nearly capsized on 17 July 1904, after leaving South Haven with approximately 3,000 passengers.[4][6] Subsequently, her capacity was lowered to 2,800 passengers, cabins were removed, lifeboats added and the hull repaired. Then, on 5 August 1906, another incident of listing occurred which resulted in the filing of complaints against the Chicago-South Haven Line which had purchased the ship earlier that year." "On the morning of 24 July, passengers began boarding Eastland on the south bank of the Chicago River between Clark and LaSalle Streets about 6:30 am, and by 7:10 am, the ship had reached her capacity of 2,572 passengers. The ship was packed, with many passengers standing on the open upper decks, and began to list slightly to the port side (away from the wharf). The crew attempted to stabilize the ship by admitting water into her ballast tanks, but to little avail. Sometime during the next 15 minutes, a number of passengers rushed to the port side, and at 7:28 am, Eastland lurched sharply to port, and then rolled completely onto her port side, coming to rest on the river bottom, which was only 20 feet (6.1 m) below the surface; barely half the vessel was submerged."
I was performing as a solo guitar vocalist on a river cruise boat in Tewkesbury UK and when folk started dancing the vessel rocked so bad my speakers were almost tipping over and I asked the skipper who was over my left shoulder 'Can this thing handle this?' To which the skipper replied ' it's alright, I'm steering into it'...
We had a similar situation on a container ship while loading wrongly weighed containers on top (they were supposed to be empty but we're not). This caused the metacentric height to go to shit and the ship listed heavily and suddenly to starboard and rested on the pier. I was in the engine room with the second engineer doing some maintenance...i think it took us all about 15 seconds to get to safety on the pier...we were absolutely shredding out personal records on running up catwalks and vertical ladders...10/10 would never want to experience that again
I'm not sure why this showed up on my recommendeds, but I'm glad it did. Growing up in the Midwest and with over 800 dead I'm not sure how I never heard of this.
No news stations covered it. In the eyes of the news people back then, the people on that boat weren’t important and besides all the media was covering world war 1
got here from Caitlin Doughty's video. if you're from the EDHS, you may remember her as she interviewed some of your members. according to her video, the ballast was only partially filled and i can easily imagine that ballast slopping back and forth as the ship started to list shame that so many don't even know this happened but i won't forget thanks to Caitlin
They pumped out the ballast water to make it easier to load passengers from the wharf, but the ship had also been retrofitted with heavy concrete that paved over the deck, adding to its top-heavy stature.
She was always a top heavy vessel, just looking at pictures of the Eastland, you can see that her beam was way to narrow for a ship of her length and height.
Interesting that she was raised, repaired and returned to service as a gunboat then as a training ship for the US navy and was scrapped in 1946 more than 30 years after the disaster. FDR even sailed on her during the war
A poorly designed ship built for speed. Even before she went into service, she underwent the removal of a deck and a recommendation that she always sail with a filled ballast because she was so unstable. She was considered unsafe without any ballast and less safe partially filled. Even though she had been listing, they continued to load passengers and attempted to set sail. Almost 900 people, including twenty-two whole families, died making it the worst maritime disaster in Great Lakes history. Many were crushed between the ship and the riverbed. Others drowned, trapped below deck.
What year did this disaster happen? I don’t recall hearing of this incident but then I have spent most of my life in the Southeastern U.S. (FL & SC) well away from the Great Lakes and only the first portion of my childhood in the vicinity (NY & OH) of the Great Lakes.
well it doesnt matter which side anyone was on, they all fell to one side and drowned... thats why over 800 people died, everyone fell on each other and got pinned/crushed and couldnt get out
2,572 people on a 2K ton ship that was built for speed over the kind of stability required to support those numbers. Should have been constructed more like a ferry, or at least had the capacity reduced by half.
Not sure the capacity was anywhere like this previously. I believe they were close to insolvency when this happened and there were two other incidents.
to make it to port n capsized in 1915. great lake storms took many lives but this was lack of ballast n she took over 800 souls . should have add narrative .
@@sekainiheiwa3650 what’s wrong with studying it? You make me sick, with how you selfishly and arrogantly put your own view above others with that statement
The ship at first *was* stable enough. They majorly refitted it, and it kinda just, sank, cuz heavy top-deck floor made from concrete isn't that much of a good idea.
@@ukaszwalczak1154 I think it wasn't so great to start with, as it was acting funny before lifeboats and concrete, with 2 other occasions of nearly tipping over.
After the sinking of the Titanic three years earlier, a new federal act was signed regarding lifeboat requirements. Lifeboats were added onto the Eastland, and this made her top heavy. Or shall I say, more top heavy. There had been incidents of the vessel listing dangerously in the decade before the tragedy. On this day, the ship was packed with passengers and at some point it began to lean away from the dock. The crew tried to add ballast to right it, but that only helped so much. There may have been a sudden shift in weight due to the movement of passengers that caused the momentum and weight needed to capsize it onto the port side.
I find it so ironic that with all the ships plying the waters of the great lakes the worst disaster happened AT THE DOCK
This happened on the Chicago River, upstream from the Lake, in only 20 feet of water. The Lake was 1/4 mile away.
@@JonascordShe was going to the Great Lakes and would have steamed through there anyway.
At least, is give some advantages into.
The salvage is be easier.
The rescue is more smooth(er rather than an open-water event).
And... The true question, why the hell a mass of stupids moved in a ship into where it already listed to?
Why?
@@szennyvizcsatorna2483Apparently the passengers, going onboard for a Western Electric company picnic, a day dedicated to fun in the sun saw it as a carnival ride. They went ‘ooh’ as it lists and ‘ahh’ as it adjusts, although a few passengers were suspicious. Things went bad when the ship listed to a 45 degree angle, as a refrigerator slid and crushed two people.
Aviation has the same story to tell. So many ways to screw up with massive loss of life, and the most devastating case happens in a foggy airport with one of the two planes barely airborne.
It's aggravating when post like this are made with no explanation of the event. So here it is.
"The Eastland was experiencing periodic problems with her stability while loading and unloading cargo and passengers, and nearly capsized on 17 July 1904, after leaving South Haven with approximately 3,000 passengers.[4][6] Subsequently, her capacity was lowered to 2,800 passengers, cabins were removed, lifeboats added and the hull repaired. Then, on 5 August 1906, another incident of listing occurred which resulted in the filing of complaints against the Chicago-South Haven Line which had purchased the ship earlier that year."
"On the morning of 24 July, passengers began boarding Eastland on the south bank of the Chicago River between Clark and LaSalle Streets about 6:30 am, and by 7:10 am, the ship had reached her capacity of 2,572 passengers. The ship was packed, with many passengers standing on the open upper decks, and began to list slightly to the port side (away from the wharf). The crew attempted to stabilize the ship by admitting water into her ballast tanks, but to little avail. Sometime during the next 15 minutes, a number of passengers rushed to the port side, and at 7:28 am, Eastland lurched sharply to port, and then rolled completely onto her port side, coming to rest on the river bottom, which was only 20 feet (6.1 m) below the surface; barely half the vessel was submerged."
Thank you!!
beyond aggravating
Thank you
Thanks a lot for the information!
Thank you. I was wondering what this was all about.
I was performing as a solo guitar vocalist on a river cruise boat in Tewkesbury UK and when folk started dancing the vessel rocked so bad my speakers were almost tipping over and I asked the skipper who was over my left shoulder 'Can this thing handle this?'
To which the skipper replied ' it's alright, I'm steering into it'...
We had a similar situation on a container ship while loading wrongly weighed containers on top (they were supposed to be empty but we're not). This caused the metacentric height to go to shit and the ship listed heavily and suddenly to starboard and rested on the pier. I was in the engine room with the second engineer doing some maintenance...i think it took us all about 15 seconds to get to safety on the pier...we were absolutely shredding out personal records on running up catwalks and vertical ladders...10/10 would never want to experience that again
I'm not sure why this showed up on my recommendeds, but I'm glad it did. Growing up in the Midwest and with over 800 dead I'm not sure how I never heard of this.
It was blocked at the time in Chicago. Newsreel.
No news stations covered it. In the eyes of the news people back then, the people on that boat weren’t important and besides all the media was covering world war 1
A lot of shit happened at that time. 2 months earlier the lusitania was sunk by a U boat w 1200 lost
Thank you for posting this. I had a great aunt that was on that dock that terrible day.
She saw something.
got here from Caitlin Doughty's video. if you're from the EDHS, you may remember her as she interviewed some of your members.
according to her video, the ballast was only partially filled and i can easily imagine that ballast slopping back and forth as the ship started to list
shame that so many don't even know this happened but i won't forget thanks to Caitlin
They pumped out the ballast water to make it easier to load passengers from the wharf, but the ship had also been retrofitted with heavy concrete that paved over the deck, adding to its top-heavy stature.
Nuh uh
She was always a top heavy vessel, just looking at pictures of the Eastland, you can see that her beam was way to narrow for a ship of her length and height.
They got rid of all the ballast water. Which didn't help.
My great aunt was on this ship, she sadly passed away
@RMS Empress Seahawkic Empress Of Minnesota clearly, she died in the disaster.
I know a ship that still exists that has almost the same interior as this one if you ever want to experience what your aunt experienced
Proof? Everybody says this on shipwreck videos.
@@Goat_Lord her name was Josephine Markowski, you can look it up on a list of people who passed away from this accident
@@zachhartwig I found her, thanks. I'm sorry for your loss.
If I’m not mistaken the ship was salvaged And used for a number of years afterwards
As a gunboat, yes.
This sums up everything. That ship is designed to roll. Wtf it happened in a small and smooth wave?!
Interesting that she was raised, repaired and returned to service as a gunboat then as a training ship for the US navy and was scrapped in 1946 more than 30 years after the disaster. FDR even sailed on her during the war
A poorly designed ship built for speed. Even before she went into service, she underwent the removal of a deck and a recommendation that she always sail with a filled ballast because she was so unstable. She was considered unsafe without any ballast and less safe partially filled. Even though she had been listing, they continued to load passengers and attempted to set sail. Almost 900 people, including twenty-two whole families, died making it the worst maritime disaster in Great Lakes history. Many were crushed between the ship and the riverbed. Others drowned, trapped below deck.
As our President said, "It is, what it is."
She was always considered a "tender" ship. The cement they poured on her top decks didn't help matters much.
What year did this disaster happen? I don’t recall hearing of this incident but then I have spent most of my life in the Southeastern U.S. (FL & SC) well away from the Great Lakes and only the first portion of my childhood in the vicinity (NY & OH) of the Great Lakes.
@@ericshaw6458 cement on the higher planks helped allot to unstabilize her; plus the lifeboats that were added after Titanic.
@@ethanpoole3443 1915.
The buffet was on the Port side ...
Being on that one side of the ship must have been so frantic and horrifying
well it doesnt matter which side anyone was on, they all fell to one side and drowned... thats why over 800 people died, everyone fell on each other and got pinned/crushed and couldnt get out
@@eriksimca9409that’s so cap when the ship rolled over people stepped on to the starboard side
That must have been even worse than the Andrea Doria nearly capsizing.At least the Italian ship rolled over more slowly.
Some explanation would have been helpful.
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That was really stressful to watch because you never knew when it would actually flip
2,572 people on a 2K ton ship that was built for speed over the kind of stability required to support those numbers. Should have been constructed more like a ferry, or at least had the capacity reduced by half.
Not sure the capacity was anywhere like this previously. I believe they were close to insolvency when this happened and there were two other incidents.
to make it to port n capsized in 1915. great lake storms took many lives but this was lack of ballast n she took over 800 souls . should have add narrative .
This is not considered "real time", is it? How long would this have taken in real time?
How did they do this, they didn't even have computers back then
How did the funnels not fall OFF??
Like an egg in the water
"Come starboard Hooper"!
So haunting and eerie.
Watch out for that piano!
Eastland Disaster Historical Society. Must be a fun newsletter.
@
Sheeple "celebrating" Titanic as well. Sick society
@@sekainiheiwa3650 no we’re just fascinated by it.
@@sekainiheiwa3650 what’s wrong with studying it? You make me sick, with how you selfishly and arrogantly put your own view above others with that statement
@@Nebulasecura piss off dumby down sheep
Eastland capsized due to the overloading stff
What program did you use to make this?
Gilligan's Island
Why that happened? Bad construction of the ship?
The ship at first *was* stable enough. They majorly refitted it, and it kinda just, sank, cuz heavy top-deck floor made from concrete isn't that much of a good idea.
@@ukaszwalczak1154 I think it wasn't so great to start with, as it was acting funny before lifeboats and concrete, with 2 other occasions of nearly tipping over.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Yes. I know that.
Chicago Bears owner George Halas was slated to ride that ship but never boarded it.
Or was that Starboard.
The horror the horror, is that it....wake me when you're done!
I bet you'll be the only one having fun..
Ive never seen anything like it. It explains everything.
can you do Titanic disaster like this please?
Watch the movie
okay?
So,everyone ran to port.
No, that was a lie by the owners. See a doc by eyewitness accounts.
Imagine if you were in the boiler room or engine room of that ship that would be horrifying
I would be horrified just being in a coal boiler room tbh, nevermind the potential for water to either drown you or blow you into canada.
The engineer actually ran back down to save the boilers from hitting the cold water and exploding. Wow.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Wow! Did he live?
capsized
I think that's called a loll in ship stability terminology!
I don’t know how it capsized 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Overloaded
I thought it was too many life boats
Me too and what about mooring lines I didnt find anywhere that she already started voyage
After the sinking of the Titanic three years earlier, a new federal act was signed regarding lifeboat requirements. Lifeboats were added onto the Eastland, and this made her top heavy. Or shall I say, more top heavy. There had been incidents of the vessel listing dangerously in the decade before the tragedy. On this day, the ship was packed with passengers and at some point it began to lean away from the dock. The crew tried to add ballast to right it, but that only helped so much. There may have been a sudden shift in weight due to the movement of passengers that caused the momentum and weight needed to capsize it onto the port side.
Strong winds, maybe?
😢
Wow doesn't look well designed
Нихрена не понятно но очень интересно
why youtube ? why do you feel that watching this is beneficial for me ?
It's not beneficial for you. It's just showing what happened that terrible day.
Don’t watch it if you’re not interested. It’s history
This was more deadly than the Titanic sinking apparently
Rich people watching this: ah yes. *chuckles* so many citizens perished.