Why do these people hate reality so much? "I don't like thinking humans are capable of doing things I find morally reprehensible, therefore demons." I was Mormon. And I REALLY believed. But ultimately I just got sick of constantly being proven wrong. If reality doesn't match your worldview then your worldview is what needs editing, not reality.
their lives suck so they have to some "justification" for why it does..so why not blame it on deeeeeemons? no personal responsibility, no demand to do better.. so you can blame others and be the victim of "Forces"..
It's just fear and superstition that's been with us for hundreds of thousands of years. If it weren't for the internet, all of these religions and millions of sects would continue to thrive infinitely.
Because reality is difficult for many people to swallow: we're not special, there is no grand design for our lives, we're not suffering because we will somehow be rewarded for it in the afterlife, terrible things happen to people wholly undeserving of them and wicked people prosper. We're all just sacks of meat, blood and bone and sometimes no matter how hard we work and how good we are some of us do nothing but live in horrid misery. Some people cannot stomach that reality without being able to blame terrible things on supernatural forces, and look to a loving god to find some purpose that they're entirely incapable of creating for themselves.
I lived with a terrible fear of demons throughout my childhood and teen years. I'm so glad I escaped the indoctrination, and eventually began to cope with religious trauma.
I was the same 😔. I had terrible and terrifying sleep paralysis episodes - sometimes 3 - 4 a night and my sleep was awful for years. I finally read the bible fully at 46 and became an atheist and I've not had any episodes since which is wonderful and I feel a lot calmer and a lot less scared but I am sad and angry that I wasted a large portion of my life with that fear. I don't think children should be indoctrinated in any religion as it can cause horrific trauma. Glad you are better now too 😊😊
@33melonpaws77 when i saw the thumbnail my thought was who thought up this particular wording for the thumbnail? there's gonna be some naughtiness here.
"Uhh, uhh... I look around... uhh, uhh... emotions... I, uhh... thoughts are, uhh... hard, uhh... speaking...too." Boy, I actually WISH he had a script...
se7enhaender Ugh. I wish these callers would at least write out an outline of their thought process on paper so that they don’t waste time babbling nonsensically.
@@FreakinFred08 I've often thought that if I were ever to call into this show I'd have an outline of what I want to talk about, with bulleted talking points.
If someone asks you to explain why you believe something, and your first word is "uhh", it's possibly time to revisit that belief. If your second word is _also_ "uhh", well...
@@jonathanconnor7920 If I was a believer and someone randomly asked me on the streets, I'd probably take a while, too... *But*, if you call into a show where the hosts regularly ask "What do you believe and *why*? It's the why we care about.", then you should probably think ahead a little bit.
props to Eric. good job redirecting the conversation and holding the caller’s feet to the fire a bit. i’ve been a critic of his since day one but he has improved so much and grown into his role as host.
Just want to say kudos to Eric and Dave for being so gentle with Kevin. I find him really hard to listen to, but I figure that he needs someone listening in his life.
I wonder how this guy would react if we told him that other animals become envious. Its not a human trait. You can't knock that to demons... Special pleading doesn't work as an argument at the best of times, its worse when we're just not that special.
"The Nag Hammadi" is a library and compendium of texts that were most certainly influenced by the cultures surrounding the area at the time. They were written even later than the "canonical gospels" and drew from the religions surrounding the area.
Hello from an ex Pentecostal. Hell Yeah we believed in demons! We believed in the whole kitchen sink baby. A better question would be what did we not believe in?
A demon is someone who convinces kids that demons exist. Is there any difference when someone uses the excuse for doing something bad between "god made me do it or a demon made me do it?"
Or 'I'm not trying to hurt you, it's just all of these evil spirits. You have to forgive me too because if you don't forgive then that means the evil spirits have got you too. Also I'm better now and it will never happen again until it does but remember, it's not my fault and if you ever cut me off then you are to blame.'
I am continually astounded at the absurd nonsense “believers” come up with in order to justify their delusion that gods / demons exists! This caller is a classic example
@John Thijm Thijm Dude .... how deluded are you ... "Gods / Demons?" / a "Divine plan?" ... wtf !! Please provide one shred of verifiable, concrete data and experimental based evidence of either of these delusions. And while you're at it you might want to define which gods of the 30,000 invented by ignorant men over the centuries you worship { Zeus, Thor, Krishna, Brahman, Allah, Poseidon, Jupiter, Mars, Uranus, Ra, etc, etc .. }. You're making an assertion with virtually no evidence ... what is your evidence?
@@lucifers.morningstar3805 Haha ,,,, oops ... I guess not .... thing is ... I've seen and heard so much whacky, deluded shit from "believers" that I can't tell who's BS'ing me and who's not anymore.
Yes there is an Upper Egyptian town named Nag Hammadi. And near it at a grave site in the year 1945 ceramic jars were unearthed that held numerous manuscripts. They turned out to be a collection of early Christian and Gnostic manuscripts (many degraded and in pieces) is now commonly referred to as the Nag Hammadi library. It is also known as the "Chenoboskion Manuscripts" and the "Gnostic Gospels" Unfortunately for historical sake the mother of the person who brought the manuscripts home his mother burnt an unknown amount of them for fuel. 😮
Within the last decade, thanks to fMRI studies of brain imaging, we’ve been able to prove that emotions are all cognitive constructs: they are entirely products of our thinking (precognitive sensations and chemical responses are in the domain of affect). Yet again, another angle where folks want to ascribe to demons or divine entities, has been explained comprehensively and elegantly, by science. This doesn’t mean that wisdom and insight cannot be gained from ancient writings. There were a lot of smart and wise people thousands of years ago too, and a lot of their writings are beautiful without the need for magical or superstitious beliefs.
Animals interact with their brain animals have the same kind of emotions we have they can get sad jealous or even angery what make us different is our language and culture
Kevin "I'm always open to be proven wrong." Well over a year more of callers to the shows show that he's lying. Because rather than ever address what he's wrong about, he just calls with a new really bad argument.
Ancient "pagan" religions were FULL of what we'd call "demons." Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Greek, and Roman civilizations took them for granted for thousands of years. That something like them is mentioned in the Nag Hammadi codices is to be expected. The reason they are in the New Testament is because they were an unquestioned idea everywhere in antiquity. The fact that he references ONLY the Nag Hammadi codices shows how limited his understanding is.
When it comes to mythos, I like to go by the neutral definition too: pretty much any non human, sentient being you wouldn't classify as something else.
It’s funny; My family’s “brand of Christianity” believed In demons and angels, yet they talked FAR more of demons than angels! It’s quite nice to have demons to blame bad stuff (including personal behavior) but the good stuff; “we’ll I EARNED that; no angel’ gave’ me what I worked for! BUT the affair I had on my wife; that was a demon of lust! Or that money I embezzled: that was a demon of greed” And on and on.
@@bobgreenfield9158 Can a dude compliment a dude without ICK written across your face? I can appreciate a handsome man without romantic or seggsual attraction to men whatsoever. Dude came out well and is taking care of himself. Hold up, do you only compliment people you have the hots for?
You know, it's stuff like this that makes it hard to like fiction. It's well a good for a fantasy world to have all of these beings and forces and what have you, but then I'm reminded of how people like the caller seem to be so primes for magical thinking that they'll apply it to reality.
I don't know how Eric has the patience to talk to people who believe in demons. I'd just tell them to move on and call someone else who might take them seriously. Such people are gullible and seek reasons for their completely bogus religious beliefs.
I get it. I really do get it. People don't like directionless chaos and being able to point to something makes us feel better about it. That kind of thinking is only holding us back as a species: the Hitlers and the Shipmans and the Mansons of the world, they're able to do extraordinarily evil things through human behaviour, not because the devil made them do it.
There is no such things as demons. You don't get to scream for something abstract to absolve your personal or crazy behavior. The only thing bad is the individual that done something wreckless, wrong or destructive.
I get the feeling this is someone trying to recount in their own words something that they heard and it felt right... but because it's not a conclusion they arrived at, they can't bottle the lightning, so to speak.
Poor Kevin. The hosts keep telling him to look for evidence outside the Bible, so he did. The problem is he doesn't understand why the Nag Hamadi isn't any better. Someone needs to teach him how to rigorously evaluate evidence and really determine how reliable it is.
The subtitles say knock Hammadi but I tried googling that and I can't find anything. Does anyone know what he meant by that and how to spell it correctly?
You're making a demons of the gaps argument: I can't see how humans could have been motivated to commit acts of such atrocity, therefore they must be under the influence of supernaturally evil beings. It's also an infinite regression fallacy. It's like saying our muscles must have muscles to be able to lift things. It's a nonexplanation that is subject to infinite regression.
One great thing about demons is that it's not my fault when I'm a dick to my holy roller family. It's the demons. The demons told me to donate $100 to Planned Parenthood in my mom's name as her Mother's Day Gift. True story.
My mental health problems were blamed on the devil and I was punished starting at age 9/10. I sadly understand. I hope you are doing well and are safe.
If your god supposedly created everything, why did it create these so- called "demon" beings? How did something evil come from something that supposedly only had good in it? If it is all powerful, why wouldn't it just demolish these demons. If your god is supposedly good, why would it allow mere humans to be exposed to this supposed evil being? It makes no sense.
What is a Grandma siezure? My favorite thing about these "call-in atheist shows" is that they confirm my bias of believing the world is full of stupid, irrational people. All doubt is disapearing with every viewing.
I don't believe in ghosts, but I like a good ghost story. I don't believe in magic, but I like the Harry Potter movies. I don't believe in demons, but The Exorcist creeped me out when I first saw it. How do we help people distinguish between the stories we tell and the real world?
He says he Nag Hammadi Codices give the Bible more credence, and weren't influenced by other cultures and traditions. They are still Christian texts. This isn't a corroborative work. It's derivative work by the Gnostics (who put forward many ideas, including the awesome idea that the old testament God is the devil claiming to be God).
I was promoted by the devil in a dream and for that he gave me a horn for the middle of my forehead. I told my wife and she just laughed but my mother in law totally freaked out, she ran out of the room and shut herself in the bedroom for some serious prayer. My mother in law knows where I'm going and it's not air conditioned.
Ask your mother-in-law why Satan would punish those who help him. Tell her that in another dream you had, Satan defied God yet again and decided to turn Hell into a Paradise and to only punish people for the same amount of time they'd receive were they convicted in a courtroom before releasing them into an eternity of their own choosing.
@@adarkerstormishere She and I DON'T get along and my wife sees similarly to me. If I get into an argument as such I'd feel bad for my wife, as she would be caught in the middle. My mother in law is too backward to argue with. If I ever am in a position, I will use which you've given me. Thank you and a big handwave from Portugal.
The Nag Hammadi texts weren’t influenced by other cultures? There are influences from Platonism, Egyptian religion, and Judaism. They emerged in a similar sort of milieu to mainstream Christianity. Wth is this dude talking about?
@IVAN KRAWEC "52 years ago they would have been locked away and drugged up." - I don't think that was or is a good solution, because people thinking and saying nonsense isn't going to be fixed by trapping them and treating them like an unreasonably minded danger to society. People with wrong ideas need to be reasoned with, and if that's beyond happening, the people around them need to be reasoned with so that know how to avoid the individual's nonsense beliefs.
I mean, we live in a world where someone who believes that: -Vaccines cause autism -Climate change is a hoax -Windmills cause cancer -Video games cause mass shootings -Bleach injections are a viable treatment ...can become President of the most powerful country in the world.
one might wonder if the easily accepted belief in satan and demons etc. comes from a subconscious,buried rage at the lack of absolute/perfect justice in this world and out of this buried sense of anger and helplessness the mind invents unseen, unproven entities or regions of punishment(hell)that makes these people feel empowered,this can also apply to the idea of karma also
“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.” . ― Robert Anton Wilson Be kind but don't succumb to crap “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political/religious and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” ― *Isaac Asimov b 1920 d 1992
So, what are the differences between religions? Who they worship What they worship Where they worship When they worship Why they worship And How they worship. What is the one and only thing they all have in common? The ppl and their gods both seem to hate all the same ppl.
My adoptive mother said I was demon possessed when I acted out at her boyfriend’s house but I wasn’t I just missed home dk you know how hurtfulit is to say someone is demon possessed that way of thinking crests monsters
I get you. Iv had complex mental health problems that started showing when I was 9/10. When my mum found out I was self harming she blamed it on the devil. Not only that but said it was my fault I had demons in me because I like rock music! (I was punished for this). It didn't help me mentally or emotionally it just delayed me getting any real help by several years and eroded any trust. I really hope you are ok and in a safe place (physically and mentally).
"Obviously we're living on earth in the middle of the universe somewhere"
Brilliant, Kevin.
Why do these people hate reality so much? "I don't like thinking humans are capable of doing things I find morally reprehensible, therefore demons." I was Mormon. And I REALLY believed. But ultimately I just got sick of constantly being proven wrong. If reality doesn't match your worldview then your worldview is what needs editing, not reality.
their lives suck so they have to some "justification" for why it does..so why not blame it on deeeeeemons? no personal responsibility, no demand to do better.. so you can blame others and be the victim of "Forces"..
Well said. Sorry you had to go through all that ! I’m glad you’ve landed on your feet and hit the ground running.
It's just fear and superstition that's been with us for hundreds of thousands of years. If it weren't for the internet, all of these religions and millions of sects would continue to thrive infinitely.
Because reality is difficult for many people to swallow: we're not special, there is no grand design for our lives, we're not suffering because we will somehow be rewarded for it in the afterlife, terrible things happen to people wholly undeserving of them and wicked people prosper. We're all just sacks of meat, blood and bone and sometimes no matter how hard we work and how good we are some of us do nothing but live in horrid misery. Some people cannot stomach that reality without being able to blame terrible things on supernatural forces, and look to a loving god to find some purpose that they're entirely incapable of creating for themselves.
religion forces them to be stupid basically
I lived with a terrible fear of demons throughout my childhood and teen years. I'm so glad I escaped the indoctrination, and eventually began to cope with religious trauma.
I was the same 😔. I had terrible and terrifying sleep paralysis episodes - sometimes 3 - 4 a night and my sleep was awful for years. I finally read the bible fully at 46 and became an atheist and I've not had any episodes since which is wonderful and I feel a lot calmer and a lot less scared but I am sad and angry that I wasted a large portion of my life with that fear. I don't think children should be indoctrinated in any religion as it can cause horrific trauma. Glad you are better now too 😊😊
@@naomisherred166 Back at you, my friend. Glad we're both recovering from religion.
@@lydiafayre9806 thanks sweet! 😊
The same here. 💯🚀
Oh look a religious person who believes something exists that he can't prove. You never see that happen
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kevin is Definetely possessed by the "demon" of Ignorance....
This is not what I expected from "ERIC POUNDS THE MONSTER" but it's okay.
For a moment there I thought it was an episode of secular sexuality.
😂😂😂
There are special websites where Eric can pound the monster on camera...
@33melonpaws77 when i saw the thumbnail my thought was who thought up this particular wording for the thumbnail?
there's gonna be some naughtiness here.
Lmao
"Uhh, uhh... I look around... uhh, uhh... emotions... I, uhh... thoughts are, uhh... hard, uhh... speaking...too."
Boy, I actually WISH he had a script...
se7enhaender Ugh. I wish these callers would at least write out an outline of their thought process on paper so that they don’t waste time babbling nonsensically.
Drinking game: Take a drink every time Kevin says "uhh" or "um."
@@FreakinFred08 I've often thought that if I were ever to call into this show I'd have an outline of what I want to talk about, with bulleted talking points.
If someone asks you to explain why you believe something, and your first word is "uhh", it's possibly time to revisit that belief.
If your second word is _also_ "uhh", well...
@@jonathanconnor7920 If I was a believer and someone randomly asked me on the streets, I'd probably take a while, too...
*But*, if you call into a show where the hosts regularly ask "What do you believe and *why*? It's the why we care about.", then you should probably think ahead a little bit.
Eric is getting really good at hosting
props to Eric. good job redirecting the conversation and holding the caller’s feet to the fire a bit. i’ve been a critic of his since day one but he has improved so much and grown into his role as host.
Just want to say kudos to Eric and Dave for being so gentle with Kevin. I find him really hard to listen to, but I figure that he needs someone listening in his life.
Demons are real because Kenneth Copeland exist.😂
Negative human emotions are demonic and no one makes me feel more demonic than listening to Kevin....
soo true.. sooooo true!!! that guy and his eyes when someone dares to call out his sh-t. SCARY.. He and Pat Robertson are the grand warlocks.
If anyone is a demon it's that fucker
I know Pat Robertson is dead now- but if his existance doesn't prove demons I don't know what does lol 😂😂😂
I actually believe that. Look at his eyes
A "hunger for the truth" is, paradoxically, indistinguishable from a desire for any answer coupled with a disregard for the truth.
And "truth" is anything Kevin thinks it is.....
Kevin always sounds like he's just sooooo sad. Not like "what a sad person" but like, he sounds like he's suffering some extreme sadness.
Depression?
I had a dog - it sometimes was jealous, sometimes sad and sometimes happy. Emotions are not unique to humans
I'm on a Kevin binge. You can keep your extreme sports and hyper-marathons.
A Kevin episode is so Bad its Good...
I didn't intend to but I have also been on a Kevin binge this evening.
LOL. Not even Alice encountered the effects of Kevin's mushrooms. "I got moves like Satan!" lol
Well Demons are real in Australia. There is an Aussie rules football club called the Melbourne Demons.
frowning Joker . They are according to that teams supporters.
Perfect!! Leave it to the Aussie, gotta love 'em
They should be called the Melbourne Zombies, go West Coast
ken8of8 . No no no, the best team is the one that you guys “loved” playing against in the 2005 grand final.
@@rickydarcilover5581 2006
Instead of the God of the gaps, we have demons of the gaps.
Just because there's evil in the world does not prove there is demons.
I wonder how this guy would react if we told him that other animals become envious. Its not a human trait.
You can't knock that to demons... Special pleading doesn't work as an argument at the best of times, its worse when we're just not that special.
Absolutely! I just watched one rooster push another one off a hen so he could mount her in my backyard. Tell me that wasn't envy. Lol.
The worst thing about not believing in demons is knowing there are no succubi.
You can hire succubi in Las Vegas.
They will milk your tiny sausage dry, for a fee!
We love you Dave.
I like Halloween, good horror movies, and I love Metal. I’ve never believed demons are real.
In 2021 you can have a grand mal seizure and still be accused of being demon possessed. Personal Experience here.
People are ridiculous. Hope you're doing well.
Shit, so terrible I'm sorry
"The Nag Hammadi" is a library and compendium of texts that were most certainly influenced by the cultures surrounding the area at the time. They were written even later than the "canonical gospels" and drew from the religions surrounding the area.
Thank you for the explanation.
Kevin, it's real simple, some people suck. That isn't evidence of demons.
Maxwell's Demon is the only demon worthy of anyone's time.
Doom was pretty good, and I liked Doom 2. Doom (2016) and Doom Eternal were nice.
There is no one to blame but yourself.
My imaginary friend says that demons are just other people’s imaginary friends fucking with you.
Lmao
Eric definitely looks like a street magician.
Watch in amazement as he makes your bad arguments... Disappear!
"people do bad things, therefore god" im convinced! Plaise the Peanut!
Humans can do good or bad. In general it s the education, parental or societal, who can push us to embrace 1 side more than the other.
I didn’t really think demons were possible until I looked in primal terror at Kenneth Copeland.
18:32 That is a demon right there! Some may call it sound feedback, but Eric being possessed is a good explanation, too!
I admire their restraint in not making demon jokes cause I 100% would. :D
Hello from an ex Pentecostal. Hell Yeah we believed in demons! We believed in the whole kitchen sink baby. A better question would be what did we not believe in?
Antivenin?
@@whispersmith hahahaha
A demon is someone who convinces kids that demons exist. Is there any difference when someone uses the excuse for doing something bad between "god made me do it or a demon made me do it?"
Or 'I'm not trying to hurt you, it's just all of these evil spirits. You have to forgive me too because if you don't forgive then that means the evil spirits have got you too. Also I'm better now and it will never happen again until it does but remember, it's not my fault and if you ever cut me off then you are to blame.'
It's because these ideas are unfalsifiable that they DID stick around for so long
The background noise sounded like the soundtrack to Dunkirk.
I am continually astounded at the absurd nonsense “believers” come up with in order to justify their delusion that gods / demons exists!
This caller is a classic example
@John Thijm Thijm
Dude .... how deluded are you ... "Gods / Demons?" / a "Divine plan?" ... wtf !!
Please provide one shred of verifiable, concrete data and experimental based evidence of either of these delusions.
And while you're at it you might want to define which gods of the 30,000 invented by ignorant men over the centuries you worship { Zeus, Thor, Krishna, Brahman, Allah, Poseidon, Jupiter, Mars, Uranus, Ra, etc, etc .. }.
You're making an assertion with virtually no evidence ... what is your evidence?
@@triplejudy isn't obvious that John was being sarcastic?
@@lucifers.morningstar3805 Haha ,,,, oops ... I guess not .... thing is ... I've seen and heard so much whacky, deluded shit from "believers" that I can't tell who's BS'ing me and who's not anymore.
@@triplejudy don't feel bad I've been in the same situation once or twice myself.😈
I find Reiki relaxing. The action, rather than the underlying belief around it.
There is no book called nag hamadi. It's a place in Egypt where early coptic christian writings were found.
good catch!!!
Yes there is an Upper Egyptian town named Nag Hammadi.
And near it at a grave site
in the year 1945 ceramic jars were unearthed that held numerous manuscripts.
They turned out to be a collection of early Christian
and Gnostic manuscripts
(many degraded and in pieces)
is now commonly referred to as the Nag Hammadi library.
It is also known as the "Chenoboskion Manuscripts"
and the "Gnostic Gospels"
Unfortunately for historical sake
the mother of the person who brought the manuscripts home his mother burnt an unknown amount of them for fuel. 😮
This caller makes me wanna go to rehab 😂
The Ad before this is gold 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That book just described most mental illnesses as demons 🤦♂️
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Theists are all over the place outside their beliefs. They cannot seem to handle reality when asked basic questions.
A lot of them are theists precisely because they can't handle reality
Within the last decade, thanks to fMRI studies of brain imaging, we’ve been able to prove that emotions are all cognitive constructs: they are entirely products of our thinking (precognitive sensations and chemical responses are in the domain of affect). Yet again, another angle where folks want to ascribe to demons or divine entities, has been explained comprehensively and elegantly, by science.
This doesn’t mean that wisdom and insight cannot be gained from ancient writings. There were a lot of smart and wise people thousands of years ago too, and a lot of their writings are beautiful without the need for magical or superstitious beliefs.
Dave is a beast
Animals interact with their brain animals have the same kind of emotions we have they can get sad jealous or even angery what make us different is our language and culture
Kevin "I'm always open to be proven wrong."
Well over a year more of callers to the shows show that he's lying. Because rather than ever address what he's wrong about, he just calls with a new really bad argument.
Her reacts kinda like a domesticated pig when you yell at it, it doesnt understand you,but it Likes the attention...
Ancient "pagan" religions were FULL of what we'd call "demons." Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Greek, and Roman civilizations took them for granted for thousands of years. That something like them is mentioned in the Nag Hammadi codices is to be expected. The reason they are in the New Testament is because they were an unquestioned idea everywhere in antiquity. The fact that he references ONLY the Nag Hammadi codices shows how limited his understanding is.
When it comes to mythos, I like to go by the neutral definition too: pretty much any non human, sentient being you wouldn't classify as something else.
not in Australia
It’s funny; My family’s “brand of Christianity” believed In demons and angels, yet they talked FAR more of demons than angels! It’s quite nice to have demons to blame bad stuff (including personal behavior) but the good stuff; “we’ll I EARNED that; no angel’ gave’ me what I worked for! BUT the affair I had on my wife; that was a demon of lust! Or that money I embezzled: that was a demon of greed”
And on and on.
Look on the bright side - Eric is one cute handsome guy.
Are you a dude?
@@bobgreenfield9158 Can a dude compliment a dude without ICK written across your face? I can appreciate a handsome man without romantic or seggsual attraction to men whatsoever. Dude came out well and is taking care of himself. Hold up, do you only compliment people you have the hots for?
You know, it's stuff like this that makes it hard to like fiction. It's well a good for a fantasy world to have all of these beings and forces and what have you, but then I'm reminded of how people like the caller seem to be so primes for magical thinking that they'll apply it to reality.
I don't know how Eric has the patience to talk to people who believe in demons. I'd just tell them to move on and call someone else who might take them seriously. Such people are gullible and seek reasons for their completely bogus religious beliefs.
yikes
I get it. I really do get it. People don't like directionless chaos and being able to point to something makes us feel better about it. That kind of thinking is only holding us back as a species: the Hitlers and the Shipmans and the Mansons of the world, they're able to do extraordinarily evil things through human behaviour, not because the devil made them do it.
Dungeons & Dragons got the best Devil's And Demons 😈 HANDS DOWN !!! come on let's play Kevin
There is no such things as demons. You don't get to scream for something abstract to absolve your personal or crazy behavior. The only thing bad is the individual that done something wreckless, wrong or destructive.
"Well....um...." Every answer begins with this. This is not the way a convinced adult person begins a sentence.
I get the feeling this is someone trying to recount in their own words something that they heard and it felt right... but because it's not a conclusion they arrived at, they can't bottle the lightning, so to speak.
From the title I thought I was on P0rnhub for a moment XD
"Pounding the Monster"
❤❤❤
Poor Kevin. The hosts keep telling him to look for evidence outside the Bible, so he did. The problem is he doesn't understand why the Nag Hamadi isn't any better. Someone needs to teach him how to rigorously evaluate evidence and really determine how reliable it is.
The subtitles say knock Hammadi but I tried googling that and I can't find anything. Does anyone know what he meant by that and how to spell it correctly?
@@kevincrayton27 Awesome. Thanks man.
You're making a demons of the gaps argument: I can't see how humans could have been motivated to commit acts of such atrocity, therefore they must be under the influence of supernaturally evil beings.
It's also an infinite regression fallacy. It's like saying our muscles must have muscles to be able to lift things. It's a nonexplanation that is subject to infinite regression.
Kevin can vote….reflect on that.
One great thing about demons is that it's not my fault when I'm a dick to my holy roller family. It's the demons. The demons told me to donate $100 to Planned Parenthood in my mom's name as her Mother's Day Gift. True story.
Haha brilliant!
I have autism and I live in the BuyBull belt. Because I was different I was told I was possessed and they tried to exorcise me.
My mental health problems were blamed on the devil and I was punished starting at age 9/10. I sadly understand. I hope you are doing well and are safe.
I was hoping "pounds the demon" was a euphemism.
If your god supposedly created everything, why did it create these so- called "demon" beings? How did something evil come from something that supposedly only had good in it? If it is all powerful, why wouldn't it just demolish these demons. If your god is supposedly good, why would it allow mere humans to be exposed to this supposed evil being? It makes no sense.
According to the bible, God created good and evil. Isaiah 45:7
You're correct.
It makes no sense.
But sadly , just by tacking on that it's all "God's perfect plan" most people will never question it properly.
I have grand mal seizures
What is a Grandma siezure? My favorite thing about these "call-in atheist shows" is that they confirm my bias of believing the world is full of stupid, irrational people. All doubt is disapearing with every viewing.
It’s grand mal
It doesn't even matter, but to my knowledge Hitler was not into the occult.
Nice mic Eric!
I don't believe in ghosts, but I like a good ghost story.
I don't believe in magic, but I like the Harry Potter movies.
I don't believe in demons, but The Exorcist creeped me out when I first saw it.
How do we help people distinguish between the stories we tell and the real world?
24:20 Being dumb certainly helps.
Words from other languages used to describe evil supernatural creatures are often translated as demon, that doesn’t mean it’s same thing
Outside nasty abrahamics demon is a neutral term: pretty much any non human, sentient being you wouldn't classify as something else.
Guy's incoherent
I really think Keven should be talking to a doctor.
He says he Nag Hammadi Codices give the Bible more credence, and weren't influenced by other cultures and traditions. They are still Christian texts. This isn't a corroborative work. It's derivative work by the Gnostics (who put forward many ideas, including the awesome idea that the old testament God is the devil claiming to be God).
Should convince anyone
I was promoted by the devil in a dream and for that he gave me a horn for the middle of my forehead.
I told my wife and she just laughed but my mother in law totally freaked out, she ran out of the room and shut herself in the bedroom for some serious prayer.
My mother in law knows where I'm going and it's not air conditioned.
Ask your mother-in-law why Satan would punish those who help him. Tell her that in another dream you had, Satan defied God yet again and decided to turn Hell into a Paradise and to only punish people for the same amount of time they'd receive were they convicted in a courtroom before releasing them into an eternity of their own choosing.
@@adarkerstormishere She and I DON'T get along and my wife sees similarly to me.
If I get into an argument as such I'd feel bad for my wife, as she would be caught in the middle. My mother in law is too backward to argue with. If I ever am in a position, I will use which you've given me.
Thank you and a big handwave from Portugal.
All the scientist are going to hell according to religious folk, so if anywhere were to be air conditioned it would be hell.
@@ATH-nj6oe Oh dear. I hope you and ur wife have been well since you wrote this.
@@snooganslestat2030 Perfectly well, thanks for asking, hope you are doing exceptionally well too.
Good and evil dehumanizes is and it’s sick
Drugs are bad, mmkay Kevin?
When I was growing up I was told thunder was the devil beating his wife
Kevin needs to stop sniffing the glue stick!
OR inhaling the EzOff when cleaning the grill.. lol
I'd say Kevin sounds stoned but I've never heard a stoner make this little sense.
LOL.. true.. true!! Harry Pothead and the Sorcerer who was stoned.. lol.
The Nag Hammadi texts weren’t influenced by other cultures? There are influences from Platonism, Egyptian religion, and Judaism. They emerged in a similar sort of milieu to mainstream Christianity. Wth is this dude talking about?
21st century and this nonsense is still around.
@IVAN KRAWEC "52 years ago they would have been locked away and drugged up." - I don't think that was or is a good solution, because people thinking and saying nonsense isn't going to be fixed by trapping them and treating them like an unreasonably minded danger to society. People with wrong ideas need to be reasoned with, and if that's beyond happening, the people around them need to be reasoned with so that know how to avoid the individual's nonsense beliefs.
I mean, we live in a world where someone who believes that:
-Vaccines cause autism
-Climate change is a hoax
-Windmills cause cancer
-Video games cause mass shootings
-Bleach injections are a viable treatment
...can become President of the most powerful country in the world.
@IVAN KRAWEC still should be lol.
@@kaiza6467 yeah it's fucking nuts, i know this is an old saying but....what the fuck is the world coming to.
Me Smith have you ever heard of the straw man fallacy?
You know nothing about me, why are you deciding what I believe for me?
one might wonder if the easily accepted belief in satan and demons etc. comes from a subconscious,buried rage at the lack of absolute/perfect justice in this world and out of this buried sense of anger and helplessness the mind invents unseen, unproven entities or regions of punishment(hell)that makes these people feel empowered,this can also apply to the idea of karma also
“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.” .
― Robert Anton Wilson
Be kind but don't succumb to crap
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political/religious and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― *Isaac Asimov b 1920 d 1992
It's very rare to see a R.A.W. quote on social media comment.
Love it ! 👍
The only thing I disagree with is the Bill Maher pic behind Dave. Lol
That caption though...
Demons ahhhhhhhhhh!!!.
Best thumbnail in the history of the show?
So, what are the differences between religions?
Who they worship
What they worship
Where they worship
When they worship
Why they worship
And
How they worship.
What is the one and only thing they all have in common?
The ppl and their gods both seem to hate all the same ppl.
archons are real-when 2 templars combine an archon is born
Pounding the monster.
My adoptive mother said I was demon possessed when I acted out at her boyfriend’s house but I wasn’t I just missed home dk you know how hurtfulit is to say someone is demon possessed that way of thinking crests monsters
I get you. Iv had complex mental health problems that started showing when I was 9/10. When my mum found out I was self harming she blamed it on the devil. Not only that but said it was my fault I had demons in me because I like rock music! (I was punished for this).
It didn't help me mentally or emotionally it just delayed me getting any real help by several years and eroded any trust.
I really hope you are ok and in a safe place (physically and mentally).
Ever play DOOM? Those were some bad dudes, I'll tell ya.' Definitely demons there.
.....demons are children. my mother called me one until i left home.
Why does religion make people think and state such infantile, fairytale delusions?
Because religion takes away the ability for people to think for themselves.
@@jszlauko yep 👍
This dude definitely believes in lizard people. The language he's using is very distinct.