if Sorin says it's working I have no reason to doubt his integrity he is an honest man. But sometimes you know as we are learning we it's better to witness the result. anyways great job Sorin as always.👌
There are many ways to solve the problem. quickly and also repaired other customers. I agree with the video above. But repairing zin takes time. It's up to the customer to fix it. The result is that the machine can run. ❤
@@morphingsomething5203 we normally meet data and clock with i2c serial protocol sda scl, just search 4 pin fan pinout information on internet, glad if you see sda scl instead tacho and pwm.
Sir the problem in fan section in the smd transistor that provides 5 volt dc for Fans I think that transistor is weak or properly not working so voltages drop in 3 volt am watching your all video sir And Im learnt many things from your videos 👌
HP Omen laptops do not have options of FAN switching off. Not always ON, means the bios will run FANs when needed. When system is quite loaded then they spin all the time, but on the battery when you do simple things , like watching YT movie in the bed, with special pad underneath (to not block air flow) then the laptop is silent. This is why FAN not always ON is good option. Because sometimes you don't want to hear noises from laptop. This is why bypassing it is not good, or it should be consulted with the client if that matters for him. Of course such solution is cheaper
We need the t-shirts with intel logo style "dodgy inside", and not forget the ones with "no capacitor, no shorted capacitor" and "proper calibrated fuse"
Movie cameras and lights has ability to turning off their fans for preventing noise when recording sound, probably the same for this laptop. Other than loosing turning off fans from BIOS, everything will work perfectly, he took a 5V from the point where is no voltage when laptop is off so fans will not draw power at laptop off. Fans control from temperature will not fill this change.
Dodge or don't dodge it is a question for yourself, what is important is diagnostics and your train of thought, check the error and replace or not replace the part on the motherboard 👍
Might be possible to find the actual bad part. With the 5V connected to the fans use thermal camera to find a small hot part. Surprised that was not tried.
Personally i would have taken on the challenge to track down the faulty component. That said, i have to respect the repair and i imagine the customer was happy to not pay for a longer job. Seeing a repair like this is probably more educational than watching Sorin play "hunt the mosfet" and repairing it 'properly'.
I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast
My only issue with this proper calibrated wire, it is now connected to the output of the regulator that supplies 5v to the fans which is obviously faulty and was supplying 3v instead of 5, so the regulator is faulty and should have been removed.
Yeah, the faulty part should be removed at least, as it tends to get hot and possibly cause more damage in the future (shorted main power rail, PCB burn e.t.c).
I have the issue on my rog strix g18 2023 GPU and CPU fans suddenly stopped spinning while gaming, i tried to remove the socket of the cpu fan and suddenly gpu fan started spinning, but they both are not working while both plugged and it does not work otherwise (unplugging the GPU fan socket does not cause the CPU fan to spin) any ideas?
Спасибо, Сорин! Понимаю, что нужно зарабатывать деньги, но неужели личного любопытства (чем управляется плюс) у вас нет? И опыта в схемотехнике много не бывает, пригодиться.. А так метод ремонта идеальный, спасибо за советы
No. It does not work like that. It will work with the highest voltage, which is 5V and what is added are the amps. Example: if the original power source has a maximum of 100mA, and the power source added by Sorin has a maximum of 300mA, in total it can supply 300mA@5V.
Nope , consider this 3,3 V is residual from a faulty mosfet so internal resistance from it is higher than 5V power supply which should be much lower. Maybe voltage will increase a little bit or worst will decrease ... In that last case it should creating some problems ...But Sorin tested and fans get 20 mA so not a problem
Yes, that works. But if I were to ever open the laptop to upgrade the RAM or change the battery and would see a proper calibrated wire in there instead of a clean fix, I'd be mad as a customer. Just saying.
There is voltage, but not the correct one. As the fan is not getting the nominal voltage, it will not spin, therefore the computer reads no RPM through the data wire, and displays error. The same error will happen if the fan's blades get stuck.
Why is there a WARNING before the words dodgy repair (dodgy repairs are much better than a proper one I mean like the manufacturer) so there's no need to write a warning sign
I turned on the 3rd fan speed on an old Acer laptop in Balanced mode. The new fan speed is quiet, and replaces the loud fan speed. The trick is, to choose a possible hibernation % that is usually 8% with a new battery. Later, it can go down to 1%. That is useless in real life, but secret functions turn on using the 1% hibernation.
so, basically, the 5v track for fans is not switched properly or is partially shorted. you said that the fans will not stop anymore. false. the fans are digitally controlled! if PWM signal is zero, then, they will not spin! i find this job very dodgy! instead of searching for the real problem. remember: you have a thermal camera! is just my opinion! 👍
Zorin made a difference between PWM and "digitally controlled". I don't know how digitally controlled works. Is there a controller on the fan? If it is PWM then a controller is modulating the pulses, and obviously we can not feed that with 5V. Strange that it was 3V if it should be 5V. But the fix worked, didn't it?
@@Drottninggatan2017 if is controlled with PWM or with clock and data, it doesn't matter. probably the EC chip does this. but is just a signal from EC chip. if the fan doesn't have power(5Volt), is not working. also, if it has power but no PWM or clock and data, is also not working. he should took the board out and search where the tracks are going! most likely would found the problem. but, he takes shortcuts.....
@@adaniel69 You are right. Probably there is some faulty element that causes voltage drop to 3V..5V is taken probably directly from main 5V so there is no current limitation. I think in some time something will be burned there.
Sorin, I really like your movies, but please kindly consider checking the schematics. In this case there is a broken element wchich probably could burn in case adding voltage from opposite site. I know you shown 0 Amps taken but something is faulty there. You can always bypass any voltages, but to be honest it seems that you even didn't like to take out the bord out, because it will take your 5 minutes of life. It's not the way like it should be done.
He was looking for a chip, which I assume he knows from experience was causing this fault. These are probably one of those special chips which can hardly be bought for replacement unlike the regular mosfets/coils or standard power chips which are used on a more common base and therefore a lot easier to get as a spare part. So even if he found the faulty chip he could most likely not have it replaced since all the big laptop pruducers are protecting their market/products by not sharing whatever components they are using with the rest of the world. The only other solution would have been to send it to a HP repair centre, but they don't do this kind of component level repairs, they just swap out your motherboard for a big chunk of money.
@@ElMariachi1337 Maybe he was joking, but he said he searched for one minute only on one side of the bord. There can be some resistor, or other thinigi between KBC which probably generates this signal. I believe he could easily get the schematic or even boardview, make checking, and repair it correctly or at least remove faulty element that causes voltage drop.
Clearly you do not understand that by adding another voltage in parallel will not be the sum of both voltages, but rather the highest one. So "the broken element" will be at the same voltage.
I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast
Love it! "Proper calibrated wire" is such a useful piece of hardware lol
Meanwhile some mosfet on the other side of the board is burning its way out of the keyboard.
if Sorin says it's working I have no reason to doubt his integrity he is an honest man. But sometimes you know as we are learning we it's better to witness the result. anyways great job Sorin as always.👌
A well explained video as always! I've just ordered a reel of proper calibrated fuses, it's 86m long so hope I have enough!!
There are many ways to solve the problem. quickly and also repaired other customers. I agree with the video above. But repairing zin takes time. It's up to the customer to fix it. The result is that the machine can run. ❤
Let me hire the wire.. the wire was hired and the mosfet was fired and fans are happy and dance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Had the same fault in my Toshiba Tecra A8 laptop and did similar mod, wired fan to 5V about 10 years ago. Everything is still working :-D
Thank you Sorin again good Job
I heard you several times said fan have clock and data pin but i think its just tachometer pin from hall effect sensor and pwm pin to control speed
Well, effect sensor = data for me and pwm maybe the "clock signal" . :)
@@morphingsomething5203 we normally meet data and clock with i2c serial protocol sda scl, just search 4 pin fan pinout information on internet, glad if you see sda scl instead tacho and pwm.
Good job mate 👍
Sir the problem in fan section in the smd transistor that provides 5 volt dc for Fans I think that transistor is weak or properly not working so voltages drop in 3 volt am watching your all video sir And Im learnt many things from your videos 👌
Proper nice repair :)
Brilliant Sorin thanks 😊
HP Omen laptops do not have options of FAN switching off. Not always ON, means the bios will run FANs when needed. When system is quite loaded then they spin all the time, but on the battery when you do simple things , like watching YT movie in the bed, with special pad underneath (to not block air flow) then the laptop is silent. This is why FAN not always ON is good option. Because sometimes you don't want to hear noises from laptop. This is why bypassing it is not good, or it should be consulted with the client if that matters for him. Of course such solution is cheaper
We need the t-shirts with intel logo style "dodgy inside", and not forget the ones with "no capacitor, no shorted capacitor" and "proper calibrated fuse"
More vidéos... Repairs.... And good job
thankyou
Good job
Yes mr.sorins way allday
Movie cameras and lights has ability to turning off their fans for preventing noise when recording sound, probably the same for this laptop. Other than loosing turning off fans from BIOS, everything will work perfectly, he took a 5V from the point where is no voltage when laptop is off so fans will not draw power at laptop off. Fans control from temperature will not fill this change.
another stunning video
Thx master for this videos
Bring on our Daily Dodginess! 😂
Fantastic, thanks you!
we have a nice laptop again 😁😁😁
Master salute❤
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@blackartista: lol
Dodge or don't dodge it is a question for yourself, what is important is diagnostics and your train of thought, check the error and replace or not replace the part on the motherboard 👍
Hi. how can we access Members-only videos?
Might be possible to find the actual bad part. With the 5V connected to the fans use thermal camera to find a small hot part. Surprised that was not tried.
he say, no replace parts.
WE HAVE PICTURE!
Don't you put a brass brush on the DMM probe and brush the MB to find the MOSFET - lol -.
Does this affect the sleep/hybernation?
Awesome😊
Im waiting for calibrated fuse merch lol
Good afternoon
Can you tell me what the model of your HTI thermal camera is and where I can get it?
I have the same laptop and it won't turn on, I really need the schematic for it, where would I find it!!
Personally i would have taken on the challenge to track down the faulty component. That said, i have to respect the repair and i imagine the customer was happy to not pay for a longer job.
Seeing a repair like this is probably more educational than watching Sorin play "hunt the mosfet" and repairing it 'properly'.
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I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast
My only issue with this proper calibrated wire, it is now connected to the output of the regulator that supplies 5v to the fans which is obviously faulty and was supplying 3v instead of 5, so the regulator is faulty and should have been removed.
That is my concern as well. But even if the regulator fails completely, you always have the 5V supplied by the wire.
Yeah, the faulty part should be removed at least, as it tends to get hot and possibly cause more damage in the future (shorted main power rail, PCB burn e.t.c).
I have the issue on my rog strix g18 2023
GPU and CPU fans suddenly stopped spinning while gaming, i tried to remove the socket of the cpu fan and suddenly gpu fan started spinning, but they both are not working while both plugged and it does not work otherwise (unplugging the GPU fan socket does not cause the CPU fan to spin)
any ideas?
Pls, I have this laptop, where can i buy the screws, any help, thank you.
if the fans spinning fast when you heated the cooler its mean the control chip fan it's actually in the fans itself, right?
Wondering if it was only a BIOS problem that could be fixed with a BIOS upgrade.🤔
my thoughts exactly... what if he cleared the CMOS ... would that have fixed the problem
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If im going to watch adds. Can i pick not to watch the tampax adds?
Complaint to RUclips.
Спасибо, Сорин! Понимаю, что нужно зарабатывать деньги, но неужели личного любопытства (чем управляется плюс) у вас нет? И опыта в схемотехнике много не бывает, пригодиться.. А так метод ремонта идеальный, спасибо за советы
👍 nice
"FAN"- tastic!
Nice Laptop..
Proper calibrated fuse 😂
Sorin the wire must be calibrated otherwise it will comeback on warranty
It’s calibrated when he touches it, god you should know this by now
If I will have 5v there? But schematic say fan work it's 10v
Could it be a software issue!? did you try to update the bios? in our days laptop faults are not allways hardware 😁
I don't see actually how a corrupt bios can result in this particular fault, but most likely its a hardware issue.
No fan, Hot cooler, Cool fix, Fast fan! Excellent speed, Good 👽!, lol
So is anything affected by this workaround? Any downside?
fan will always work, something they usually do anyway with that CPU :)
fan connectors has 3,1 v ,you add 5v , do fans work 8 volt ?
No. It does not work like that. It will work with the highest voltage, which is 5V and what is added are the amps. Example: if the original power source has a maximum of 100mA, and the power source added by Sorin has a maximum of 300mA, in total it can supply 300mA@5V.
I have similar laptop, also HP Omen, with 2080 Super, 32GB DDR4 and SSD instead of classic HDD
This one has two SSD slots plus a HDD. Sorin removed the SSD to troubleshoot. Did you not notice?
if fans are already receiving 3.3v adding another 5v make the fans getting a total of 8.3v?
Dear, this is a parallel connection, the voltages do not add together
No the power supplies aren't connected serial, they are connected parallel, so only the 5 Volts matter
Nope , consider this 3,3 V is residual from a faulty mosfet so internal resistance from it is higher than 5V power supply which should be much lower. Maybe voltage will increase a little bit or worst will decrease ... In that last case it should creating some problems ...But Sorin tested and fans get 20 mA so not a problem
Shortage of voltage is key cause for error messages
It is necessary to know the right amount of voltage
FAN-tastic
Yes, that works. But if I were to ever open the laptop to upgrade the RAM or change the battery and would see a proper calibrated wire in there instead of a clean fix, I'd be mad as a customer. Just saying.
nah fam, u can't be mad with cheap and quick repair that do the job
If you're too picky, buy a new device😂
what happened to sorin guys we do not see him 3 days
It is an Omen !
C u later for your proper calibrated coffee time.
This is a design improvement. HP should take notes.
So, absence of voltages causes errors
absence of rpm data (caused by fan not spinning because of too low voltage provided)
There is voltage, but not the correct one. As the fan is not getting the nominal voltage, it will not spin, therefore the computer reads no RPM through the data wire, and displays error. The same error will happen if the fan's blades get stuck.
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For these laptops where you need more current, can’t you just get a second power supply in parallel 😃
My HP Omen got 330W power supply. Only one.
It's not about power but laptop didn't want to turn on without original charger (third, sense pin)
@@yoshy2628 you need an entire power plant just to provide power to your laptop.:)))
Something normal for HP not to work fan
Why is there a WARNING before the words dodgy repair (dodgy repairs are much better than a proper one I mean like the manufacturer) so there's no need to write a warning sign
fans turned off
dodgy
I turned on the 3rd fan speed on an old Acer laptop in Balanced mode. The new fan speed is quiet, and replaces the loud fan speed. The trick is, to choose a possible hibernation % that is usually 8% with a new battery. Later, it can go down to 1%. That is useless in real life, but secret functions turn on using the 1% hibernation.
3:53 is this a tricky question? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow 2 m.2 and have put a harddrive in a gaming laptop😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
pretty dodgy heheheee
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so, basically, the 5v track for fans is not switched properly or is partially shorted. you said that the fans will not stop anymore. false. the fans are digitally controlled! if PWM signal is zero, then, they will not spin! i find this job very dodgy! instead of searching for the real problem. remember: you have a thermal camera! is just my opinion! 👍
Zorin made a difference between PWM and "digitally controlled". I don't know how digitally controlled works. Is there a controller on the fan? If it is PWM then a controller is modulating the pulses, and obviously we can not feed that with 5V.
Strange that it was 3V if it should be 5V.
But the fix worked, didn't it?
@@Drottninggatan2017 if is controlled with PWM or with clock and data, it doesn't matter. probably the EC chip does this. but is just a signal from EC chip. if the fan doesn't have power(5Volt), is not working. also, if it has power but no PWM or clock and data, is also not working. he should took the board out and search where the tracks are going! most likely would found the problem. but, he takes shortcuts.....
@@adaniel69 You are right. Probably there is some faulty element that causes voltage drop to 3V..5V is taken probably directly from main 5V so there is no current limitation. I think in some time something will be burned there.
@@grzegorzw5042 exactly! Maybe liquid damage on the other side of the board....
Yeah he should have taken out the board and inspected the backside visually at least.
Sorin, I really like your movies, but please kindly consider checking the schematics. In this case there is a broken element wchich probably could burn in case adding voltage from opposite site.
I know you shown 0 Amps taken but something is faulty there. You can always bypass any voltages, but to be honest it seems that you even didn't like to take out the bord out, because it will take your 5 minutes of life.
It's not the way like it should be done.
He was looking for a chip, which I assume he knows from experience was causing this fault. These are probably one of those special chips which can hardly be bought for replacement unlike the regular mosfets/coils or standard power chips which are used on a more common base and therefore a lot easier to get as a spare part. So even if he found the faulty chip he could most likely not have it replaced since all the big laptop pruducers are protecting their market/products by not sharing whatever components they are using with the rest of the world. The only other solution would have been to send it to a HP repair centre, but they don't do this kind of component level repairs, they just swap out your motherboard for a big chunk of money.
@@ElMariachi1337
Maybe he was joking, but he said he searched for one minute only on one side of the bord. There can be some resistor, or other thinigi between KBC which probably generates this signal. I believe he could easily get the schematic or even boardview, make checking, and repair it correctly or at least remove faulty element that causes voltage drop.
Clearly you do not understand that by adding another voltage in parallel will not be the sum of both voltages, but rather the highest one. So "the broken element" will be at the same voltage.
@@davidlguerr Clearly you don't understand that this way you are doing contiunuse short circuite test, just like using external current source.
@@grzegorzw5042No, because that track is not connected directly to ground...
Ha no such thing as a "dodgy" shortcut
First
A virus in the BIOS file caused by a game... Entering Windows from Safe Mode and deleting a game will turn on the computer.
I have an hp Omen 15 gaming laptop, and it gets very hot even if I am not playing games on it or running powerful software and also drains battery to fast