4 Years Later, How is Imperator?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In today's video we will be taking a look at Imperator: Rome, 4 years after release and 2 years since support was discontinued by Paradox. The game starts before the Punic Wars, with many historical nations such as Rome, Carthage, Macedonia, the Selucids, and many more existing!
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as an invictus dev this made me SO happy to see
so much work is going into the game still. things like india which were all but empty in terms of flavor now have so much content for it. this era of history is super underrated, it’s very much not just rome and carthage, you have narratives still going on since the bronze age, and many narratives from the iron age.
this vid made me sub
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@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 Who's saying that about who?
apparently the diadochi kingdoms (ptolemaic, seleukids, antigonids, macedon) have a thing where if they occupy land from another diadochi kingdom, they annex it
It's basically imperial war CB that you can unlock towards the end of the Imperator tech tree. I think it's only available against major powers or rivals. Basically towards the end game when everyone becomes a giant blob. That way you won't need a dozen wars to take out a major. Some EU4 mods have it. And it's something people have been begging to have for EU4.
@@robertalaverdov8147No, it’s available from the start, for as long as your leader was one of Alexander’s generals, and it is disabled once they die. It’s the same as the civil war mechanic, dunno bout that tech tree thing though
@@robertalaverdov8147 what mods have it if you don't mind ? i really like the idea for eu4
@@dontremember7680 Expanded timelines and ante bellum if I'm not mistaken.
@@axdilez3486 I know it's available from the start. But its also available once you go down your tech. And also for some events, like when you form Parthia you get to declare the same CB on the Seleucids. That's what happened in this timelapse.
Imperator could've been so cool. Too bad they screwed it over by abandoning it
That's y the devs for the Imperator Invictus mod are goated! Just wish their mod updates wouldn't break saves lol
Yeah invictus is goated , there are even submods for it that add Christianity!
@@jasongray6698 Cringe. No Christianity allowed in my Pagan Minecraft server.
The main reason is that there was no reason to intially pick it up. It was so empty and featureless that you could play it for a few hours and get all the enjoyment you could possibly get
@@MrDalek2150uhhhhh yeah i’m thinking based??
Fun fact! Boi is actually where the name Bohemia comes from. Basically that tribe was pushed out of Italy by the Romans, and the land they ended up in was dubbed "Boio Haemum" or "Home of the Boii", which the name "Bohemia" stems from.
Boi Lives, I guess
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is there a connection between swabia and the suebi?
@@berjoxhn5142 Yes! From what I gather, modern Swabia is around where the "Alemanni" would have been in Caesar's time, but the Alemanni and Suebi were part of the same culture. It's all a bit convoluted when it comes to where each tribe was and what they were named, but the important part is that yes, "Swabia" is derived from "Suebi"
@@bakubread9308 very interesting! Thanks.
Please do a play-through of the Imperator Invictus mod.
It fixes a lot of issues in the base game and adds a ton of content.
Looks like it was active for this recording
11:35
Bois or Dahomeys; vote now on your phones.
Bois, low dif. Fun fact: did you know that the name for Bohemia originated from the former Boi?
If you like history, you should take a look at the history of the Diadochi (the successors of Alexander the Great). Their story is really interesting and full of twists and turns, betrayal and assassination!
To add to this, read "Dividing the Spoils: The War for Alexander the Great's Empire" by Robin Waterfield. Game of Thrones is nothing compared to the Diadochi wars.
Imperator might become another Victoria 2, the community might make the game what paradox couldn’t or wouldn’t,ake it into.
Where imperator was left, is what should have been released. Its replayability was crippled at the start as it all felt the same.
all it needed was a lil bit of flavour and rebalancing. shame.
I actually still like this game as a 'once a month scratch the itch' deal. The main problem with Imperator wasn't the civil wars imo, it was just that it was diet Victoria 2 (in fact I'd say that Victoria 3 has the exact same pitfalls as this game but unlike this game they're trying to fix it instead of abandoning it)
The uncolonized provinces, except for the ones that exist at game start, happen when a province with low pops gets sieged and the few pops living there die. When the pop reaches 0 it becomes uncolonized. It can easily be recolonized if you have enough pop in a neighboring province.
But you have to have a significant amount of accepted culture pops next to it which doesn’t happen naturally that easily, so the AI doesn’t do it too much.
Man Imperator was great. The most effort I put into it was getting the REDNAXELA achievement which meant overcoming the Maurya and reaching macedon 😂
The imperator map is so beautiful
I'm following sub count very closely since I'm hyped about the mega campaign.. been here since 10.7k if I remember correctly, growing quite fast
Hi Chewy, i really like the content, on this channel and on Chewyshoot as well. The Byzantine play through was great yet again. 👍🏽
Populations can migrate in Imperator. One of my favorite playthroughs was uniting all of germania and then depopulating all of it and simulating the Germanic Invasions and sacking Rome till there was no one left in the city. If there is no one living in a province it becomes open.
some context on the mauryans, theyre an incredible part if indian history. from small states in the hyper centralized and populated ganges river valley they conquered (in multiple forms) most of india.
chandragupta maurya died from fasting (honorable death in jainist tradition), his son bindhusara was likely ajivika faith instead but would commit suicide also by starvation yupon yhe death of his son, and ashoka the great would be a huge influence on early buddhism in india. its hard to enjoy ai onlies sometimes if you dont have much understanding of certain regions, and my breif summary does not too much to help but i hope this helps some ppl enjoying this era outside of just rome
If you aren't already you should use the Imperator Invictus mod, it is basically unofficial updates at this point. Playing it without it is like playing vanilla victoria 2 without HPM or HFM imo
4:12 what are you doing, steppe-nomad?
chewy pronouncing the Maurya Empire as "Marra" is actually hilarious
You need to tell everybody cause your using invictus , which completely overhauls the game , well I think it’s invictus?
Imperator vids = instant subscribe. Looking forward to more!
Laith isn't the only person making videos on this game, Zlewikk also does
Its a much better game after the last DLC, hopefully they come back to it at some point. Only thing i disliked was the civil wars.
Yeah.
I don't think there were enough civil wars, at least in Rome. Where is Romes roughly 5 billion civil wars?
@@MrDalek2150 eh, my problem was more with the mechanics of the civil war, was just constant flipping land back and forth, more annoying than anything. Plus the reasons that some people would get disloyal seem a bit arbitrary.
you really should try the invictus mod for imperator. It literally fixed it and made it a fun game experience!
...he's playing it. It's Invictus, this video.
With the Invictus mod it’s a very good game
That was a lovely Rome, though there was a distinct lack of Gaul in it
you should mention that you play on imperator invictus mod, base game is so muuuch poor in content without this mod
Always love your videos brother, only thing I'd say for commenting this game is that it's totally fine to call the region by the name you're familiar with. For example, who cares if no one called it "Anatolia" at the time, "Asia" means something different now anyway haha.
But literally from beginning to end you got more comfortable! So I'm not worried about you lol, mega campaign will be super fun
bruh now after this video i feel like having imperator in the mega campagn is the biggest mistake in human history
1:46 fun fact that the romanian language *nowadays* still has as legacy 140 words from origins *dacian-getae* from the past (Getia in the game here)
our language is latin 85% nowadays but the rest of 15% is with other influences from the past ,mostly slavic (Romania is surrounded by slavic neighbours)
The Roman Empire (Emperor Trajan) fought The Kingdom of Dacia (ruled by King Decebal) in 2 wars , the first was in 101-102 AD was a "draw" , because dacians put a fiercy resistance , but after 2 years war , Dacia lose manpower , while The Roman Empire regroup and came again in the second war (105-106 AD) and was victorious this time under the emperor Trajan , the romans occupied south-west of Dacia (not entire) around 25%
Day 73 of asking for everyone is Dutch, because the oldest city in the Netherlands is Nijmegen, which was founded by the Romans.
ok sorry for this is my fourth comment, just very excited to see u cover this game
some nations of intrigue that would maybe be cool to see buffed in an ai only or something
- heraclea pontica: theyre the last remnant of the achaemenid dynasty of the achaemenid persian empire (the one cyrus the great established)
- sparta for obvious reasons is always fun to see pop off
- kush, which can form a resurgent dynasty of egypt, in history they established a dynasty ppl know colloquially as the ‘black pharoahs of egypt,’ they might need some tasks in their mission tree completed via console tho
- judea, i feel like this one is especially fun to see pop off due to recognizability
- india, u got pretty lucky to see a maurya that never collapsed tbh! theres a lot of fun nations that pop out of maurya, to the point where itll probs just be interesting to see different regardless of whatever the subject of ur next ai only should u choose to do one
finally, id love to have been able to see the religious mapmode, that’s my niche in the invictus team, and i always enjoy seeing the other mapmodes at the end of ai onlys
Btw those uncolonized provinces aren’t an issue. A lot of provinces in Ireland, Germany, and the steppes start uncolonized, so some provinces just don’t get colonized. However, even some previously colonized, or starting colonized, provinces can become uncolonized. This happens when all of the pops in a province leave, usually from events, relocating pops, or most commonly, being moved as slaves to the capital of a nation that sieges it down.
the uncolonized provinces arent quite a bug, and theyre also not all uninhabited! if you take a look at those provinces, u’ll see they still have pops, theyre simply not ‘centralized’ enough, thats how that mechanic works logically at least.
what ends up happening that makes new uninhabited provinces is that the settlement is raised and loses all its pops because it never had that many pops to start with.
As a person who can't play any of these games, I literally found out about this one by accident
Why didnt you show the great powers list, chewy? In case you didnt know it existed im sorry of course 😅
Yeah I looked and couldn’t find one 😂
It's on sale rn btw till September 4th
This is a fantastic game, well worth learning and investing time into. Reuniting Alexander’s Empire is far more satisfying than playing as Rome.
stopping development on this game was one of the worst mistakes Paradox ever made...
To think they abandoned this for Victoria 3 💀💀
Boi just hanging on as an OPM in the Appenines for most of the game while Chewbert ignores it is truly tragic
I didn’t even see it 😂
Within 1 day when this has 8.4k views
Worst thing about Imperator is the same issue Crusader Kings 3 has: Where the f is the UNITED STATES!?
nowhere, the us isn't the centre of the wprld and even less so of history.
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Vai pró caralho mais os Estados Unidos!
You joking right?
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I liked the game when I definitely bought it as it came out. Don't remember anything on how to actually play it but the best thing that I hope can somehow make it to eu5 is the map. It is beautiful and the shape is really good. It would be awesome to see it on a full globe
This game had so much potential. Shame . Thank the mods for EU4 Imperium Universalis, best Ancient Rome strategy experience out there.
Everyone loves a good Boi ❤
i actually really like imperator it was rough at launch but it became really good after the 2 updates it couldve been great if they didnt abandon it.
every time you siege a region, a pop dies. no more pops, nd the region decolonizes. that's why you should focus on sieging forts only, if you plan to take that land later.
Personally i enjoy the game. Thanks for sharing man.
One of paradox best games. Just wondering what were the political pressures at play. Big mistake was to release without a serious military component. Destroyed the reputation of the game. Was
It a
Barbie design ?
Could have been a great game with like, hunnic invasion events, Rise of christianity and islam events. Would have been awesome
The provinces can get decolonised when they lose all population in a siege/occupation
If a person plays as Rome they are more likely to unite Italy first due to the missions. It was kinda shitty to just abandon this game... some modders out there helping it out a bit though.
11:35 I think the AI faction there has been razing, pillaging and slaughtering the inhabitants, after occupying a region, that's why if you continuously do this, you will empty the entire region. Only leaving the a pile of ash and bones.
I recently gave it a try again and it’s actually fun so yes play
When you siege a province you often get the option to loot it to varying degrees and sometimes if you loot it extremely the province can be uncolonises
plz do every eu4 continet as 1 nation like asia is one nation
isreal is a formable nation a try on it should be fun
Hi, can u make a video about EU4 where every country in the world has (permanent-?) vital interests in every provincies in the world.
I mean the first punic war was that anticlimactic irl
IMPERATOR ROME ELL YEAH
En bra video Chewy.
Stock exchange map are nations day 2
He wants to learn about imperator so he can play it later in his mega campaign... by watching AI play? like what did he learn from this? :D did he learn some mechanic by watching the map? I don't get it :D
Well :D if you’ve watched my channel before :D you’d know that that’s what I do :D is AI only stuff :D and the purpose of this video :D like I said in the intro :D is to have a baseline for the mega campaign :D which will also be AI only :D if it already wasn’t obvious :D
Thanks for asking! :D
6:27 sorry but i’m team Gothia
Dude, it's pronounced BOW EYE. Who are you? Flavah Flav?
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I have 700h😅
If your doing a mega campaign do a Carthage one. It’s be interesting with a world where Carthage won the Punic wars and became the dominant Mediterranean Power. It’s be an interesting world where Italy for instance would be left a ruined desolate backwater while North Africa is the wealthiest area of the world. It’d be fun if you also went for a Jewish religion in CK3, could have it be a thing where Jewish immigration into Carthage eventually lead to conversion, again mostly because it’d be interesting. Between games you could release some territories and areas to prevent rofl stomping the entire world map by CK3, like maybe the dark ages hit Carthage hard and in CK3 it’s a monarchy (since CK3 doesn’t do republics) under the Barcids (Hannibal’s dynasty) And is reduce to the area around Carthage itself and the object of the CK3 part is to regain control over North Africa and Spain and the Mediterranean islands and develop Carthage back to its former glory, by EU4 you could make it a colonial game where you colonize the Americas (replacing Spain in normal EU4) with a sub objective to restore Carthage to a republic by Vicky3 you could release the American colonial nations a la what happened to the independence revolutions of the Spanish colonies and instead pivot to Asian/African Victorian era colonialism and by HoI4 ofc enforce your chosen ideology across the world in a massive war.
Just play the game
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Funny thing is, I never played Imperator on release. It was after their first attempt to fix the game that I picked it up personally. And it's really wild to read some of those early reviews after it was released. Because people reviewing it sound almost like they've lost their minds ranting about how in a game with abstracted political simplifications there shouldn't be abstracted political values on a level of ranting that I usually only see in video games over the idea of it anything vaguely sexual was included in them in the 1990s.
I will say there's a lot about Imperator: Rome that I liked and I'm glad the Invictus mod team picked it up and kept going with the whole idea of providing what PDX might have done with vanilla. Some of it sounds silly... but I always liked the map to the game. Very pleasant curvature of the earth effect to scroll around. It sounds silly, but it's a nice touch to see in a game where you're interacting with a map of a planet all the time compared to a flat board. Aesthetics matter.
But a lot of other things were looking good for it. From the military situation which is basically EU4's system, but highly improved, to internal politics in a nation and the dangers of Civil War, Rebellions, and Slave Uprisings. I always felt it was a good game never given a chance after its opening and everyone seemed to collectively lose their minds about it.
If you do a mega-campaign with that set up and order? Yeah it's EU4 that is definitely the weak point for me. Though can be pretty interesting in how EU4 can be the point that ancient empires are crippled beyond belief due to the AI's inability to cope with the fact that they might enter the EU4's time frame with like 8000/600 governing capacity. You'll see those powerful empires on Tech Level 4 when you should be at 14 and getting carved apart.