We made a HUGE CHANGE on how we are learning Spanish!
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Ok guys, so we have decided to take a more hands-on approach to our language-learning journey and have teamed up with WorldsAcross (WA) to make that happen. We will be speaking and learning grammar from our tutors at WA.
If you are interested in learning more, visit them at www.worldsacross.com and use the affiliate code:
SPANISHLEWIS to get 30% off your first month. 🤑🤑🤑
Or try them out for free with their one free class offer. So far, we love them and feel good about our progress.
Their RUclips channel: / @worldsacross
📎📎📎We'll be recording sessions soon so you'll see snippets of our speaking progress. 📎📎📎
📢📢Our next video will include a super detailed review of the platform so hopefully, all your questions about them will be answered there. 📢📢
Some of the language learning methods we mentioned in the video are:
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As someone who thinks Dreaming Spanish videos are useful but strongly disagrees with Pablo's anti-grammar-study stance, I think this will be a much more efficient and effective approach that will make your understanding of Spanish more wholistic.
I highly recommend the videos of a RUclipsr called Qroo Paul. He has a beginner grammar series called Cero to Conversational which is very good and also has the best videos on RUclips about the subjunctive and other topics.
Good luck.
Thanks for the reminder about Qroo's channel. I used to watch him and just started again. You're right, they are amazing.
OMG I’m so sorry you struggled so much with whether you should learn grammar!!! Comprehensible input is excellent, but that doesn’t mean it can’t or shouldn’t be supplemented by other methods, like explicit grammar learning and translation! For many people, comprehensible input alone won’t work. Language learning is too complex to categorically say that for EVERYONE, X and X alone is the way to go, and Y, Z, etc. are bad. Please use any and all methods that will help you meet your language-learning goals! Pablo’s purism is not something to emulate!
Hola! It's hard to say. Everyone learns differently. Just with Lisa and me, por ejemplo, we are different. We'll see how this goes. Thanks for the comment! Buen dia!
Thanks for sharing your journey. Solely listening to learn language patterns is a very slow and inefficient way for adults to learn Spanish. You can learn those patterns much faster by focusing on them. Once you learn a pattern, you can use logic to create sentences using that pattern -- even sentences you have never seen or heard before.
Hey Qroo, Greg and I were talking about you this morning. I watched your Lesson One video about Subjunctive Present, although I don't think that's what you called it. It was mind-blowing and I kept giving Greg examples left and right where we heard it but never understood it. Por ejemplo, "cuando puedas". I never understood why they used an A in puedas...now I do! Thanks for the videos and true, focusing on the patterns is a game changer.
¡Lo están haciendo increíble! Ansiamos seguir el progreso en los próximos videos 😊
Muchisimas Gracias WorldsAcross!! 😊
Writing and texting is so so helpful. Language Transfer and Spanish workbooks from Amazon will help you so much.
I always did both. Italki, Duolingo, and dreaming Spanish
Awesome!
Same i have a 400 day streak and do language transfer and I also talk with my tandem friend on Instagram I've made a lot of progress and can make conversation decently I just struggle with actually talking around other people
My issue with "only" listening is to acquire the specific manipulations (tenses) we do in native language and want to do in next language would have to take a long time because there are so many subtle things YOU (personally you with your style of speaking) use which others may not on a regular basis. Its the voice of the author- you. Why something written by you will sound slightly different from others.
I use "even" a lot because it means something significant to me. Example
I didnt even get to drink any
The even in the sentence (in my mind) allows i didn't get to do several things but at least would have thought i would have drank
So i cant leave it out of the sentence
Then i need to find that same subtlety in the next language
yall this is sooo exciting!!! and perfect timing, because i'm SO close to signing up for worlds across but haven't taken the plunge yet!! but it really seems like an amazing platform. i think its great yall are doing what works best for you!! ci is truly the best, but its true that it takes A LOT of time to get where u wanna be, and when youre already living in a spanish speaking country... time isnt exactly on your side, and being able to output well is urgent :') hahah looking forward to the next update about it!
Hey Jaci! Yeah, check it out! The tutors are all from South America so not perfect for us but perfect for you! We are ok that they aren't from Spain though. Spanish is Spanish and they all understand each other so we figured it would be good for now. During our lessons, we speak in Castilian Spanish though.
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6utMauricio is from Spain, so check him out! I’ve been with worlds across since March and started with them. It’s been great for me since I have limited time. I’m 100% sure yall will love it
I believe Pablo speaks about this in a video. Where it's understandable if you live in a country and just need to speak.
Also, Pablo's estimations I believe, I'm not 100% sure, were built on his experience with Thai. The whole point behind not speaking for a while is so you don't produce sounds that aren't natural etc. for an English speaker learning Spanish, it's not that hard imo. If you understand the sounds and have a basis for pronunciation, you're good. This could be 400-500-600-700 hours. No idea but definitely not 1000.
I love grammar just as much as you guys, and I feel the same way. I've been trying to do the purist approach (95% of the time, at least) just to see what CI was all about. I don't have the time constraint for speaking. What I did notice, after 1250 hours, grammar started to seep in, and I've been noticing different grammar tenses more. I'm almost at 1500 hours (woohoo!!!), but I still don't have a solid grammar base. I do love to watch Hola Español and other learner-based videos for grammar and vocabulary. (I do the same for German, too). This is the 5% where I'm not a "purist" - I've found reviewing vocabulary and grammar along the way actually helps, as well as trying to produce something once in awhile. Also watching the beginner and super-beginner videos helps out with grammar, too. (I was always so confused if they were speaking in the present tense, or past tense in those early videos). I do feel like an 80% CI to 20% Grammar ratio is the best.
7:35 - I lol'd at the "I'm rich!" insert. I was practicing speaking with my aunt (from Texas) and a family friend (Costa Rica) and we were joking a bit about that (inside joke). All in Spanish, of course! My aunt was joking, "La millonaria aquí". (No, I don't have millions like Agustina de Argentina - that's another Dreaming Spanish reddit joke for those that don't know). Speaking of my German above, I did catch myself trying to mix in a German word with my Spanish when I couldn't think of the Spanish word fast enough.
Oh no! I’ve been watching, curiously waiting to see if you guys will start speaking. But I don’t think I am sold on the dreaming Spanish progress. But speaking is the mastery of a language. Right now I am doing a lot of listening because I lack 20% comprehension in the area. I’ve done some speaking practices but to see what I sounded like, but if you understood the language you can express yourself and speaking. I guess the process is convoluted because I was communicating online through writing for a long time with people in an interactive process that helped me refine and identify the proper use of some of the vocabularies especially the verbs I have learned, that in the few occasions I had to use my Spanish, it seems there was no issue. I think one needs a basic foundation of the grammar before jumping into the listening process of dreaming Spanish. Obviously there are plenty of resources from the dreaded Duoling to free online course like Spanish with Paul. But truthfully, no one method can suffice.
Im proud of you guys for being able to figure out what you need to do next. Thats very important in any skill development. Im learning french, comprehensible input + online video course and pronounciation practice plus a tutor i practice speaking with. Im making steady and fast progress.
Worlds Across didn't exist when i found my groove and speaking partners. However, honestly, unless they add Spanish speakers from Spain, i dont think i would've tried it anyway. That's a very hard stop for me personally.
I really respect what they do and hope they succeed in the space. I hear their service is fantastic for those that want LATAM speaking partners.
The whole thing makes complete sense! I can understand trying to be a purist but I'm proud of you guys for breaking out of that even if it was out of necessity. You took a leap and I really hope everything works out for you! Thank you so much for bringing up the world's across until you guys brought it up I didn't know about it. Thank you again!
Thank you so much! Yeah, check them out. They offer a free class if you want to see what it's about too.
Thank you (once again!) Your videos are super helpful for those of us on a similar path. One thing I've noticed about the DS videos is that some of them are much more language-rich than others. So you might have 3 or 4 times as many words per minute in one video versus another. And in some we get more new words being comprehended than in others. So I don't think all minutes or hours are equal. But regardless, yes, I think there's a chasm between comprehension and speaking, and it's probably best to wait as long as possible to speak, as you've been doing, but at some point, we just have to jump and do other things...
Don’t be concerned that the teachers are from America, but you live in Spain. I’m a Brit, and had only spoke to Mexicans for the first two years of my learning, but didn’t have too many problems when I went to spain. I just made sure to watch youtube videos etc with Spaniards.
Also, talking out loud to yourself like you mentioned is a great tool, especially when your Spanish gets a bit more advanced, because a lot of the more complicated verb conjugations like past subjunctive etc aren’t that common so might not always come up when you’re chatting with a tutor, its good to imagine random scenarios where they would be needed and force yourself to say them, just to practice.
Tranquilos, poco a poco, un consejo, hablar mucho con españoles, se irá haciendo el oído, no siempre se entenderá pero hay que dejar de pensar en inglés y cambiar el chip, suerte
Muchisimas Gracias!!!
conversation is able to increase hours so quickly. remember i was only doing 1 hr of CI per days. then i went to argentina on exchange and upped it without trying to 7 hours a day. allowing me to progress 7 times as fast
Amazing!
Dreaming spanish to worldsacross pipeline is so real
I’ve used Worlds Across. My teacher was great. I should go back.
They are great! They may have more tutors now since you've been there. It seems like they get new ones and we've only been using them for 2 weeks and already notice it. Who was your teacher? I have 3-4 favorites so far.
Baselang
I'm still a bit curious as to why you chose WorldsAcross in lieu of Italki or Preply. Was it the unlimited lessons package? All of my Italki lessons were 45 minute conversations in Spanish. I chose not to do grammar lessons, but that was an option.
Yes! The unlimited lessons were the main reason. I took Preply lessons before Dreaming Spanish. And I LOVED my tutor. But it would have been super expensive to take all the classes I want to take.
@@GregLewis-fl3lr Have you looked into Baselang? I looked at Worlds Across and Baselang a couple of months ago for crosstalk (not speaking practice) and World Across didn't have any teachers from Spain or they had one. Baselang had two or three and you can book with all of them.
It’s a night and day difference between studying grammar from day one and studying grammar after you’ve done a good amount of reading and listening. The grammar or sentence patterns you study should feel immediately useful instead of useless. That said I would still slowly study from day one too. Hopefully with a good class. I found a wonderful free online Korean class for my level. I started a week ago and it’s been great. It’s once a week and I’d prefer something twice a week but it’s so nice to be in a class. I hope your one on one lessons go well. If you don’t already have a good resource of simple sentence patterns try asking Chat GPT to give you some.
Hey Paul! So true, having those hours of input makes a difference in learning grammar. I've been learning grammar with Language transfer since about 300 hours but now I'm diving much deeper since we are doing lessons. It feels like it's all coming together. It's making comprehension easier too.
Well done. I agree with you to. You need to speak, because you are in Spain. Simple. Do what you have to do. I have 2000 hour of CI, half of which is with DS. I now speak every day, much of this is to myself. Walk and Talk or Drive and Talk. At first it was hard. But, it got easier really quickly. This topic is super timely. I just did a podcast video with Álvaro on his Natural Languages RUclips channel which will be published in a couple of days. We talked about this topic of the "third gap", the transition to output. On my channel Input English, I am going to be proactive and discuss these strategies up front, so our viewers are forewarned and forearmed. I want the transition to output to be as fun and comfortable as have been the other phases of this journey.
I looked at your channel...that's wonderful! You're going to help a lot of people! Yes, transitioning your viewers will help them so much! They may not even know they need that help until you tell them. Best of luck with your channel!
I teach Spanish in the US. I do think Dreaming Spanish is a great system...comprehensible input is very powerful tool. That being said, speaking is the last, and hardest skill people learn. Babies--think about how they listen 24/7 in their little lives and only speak in tarzan-like sentences when they get to maybe 18 mos. to 2-3 yrs old. Since you are already living in a new Spain, that becomes top level priority. Glad you found something that is helping with that.
Yes, I think DS laid a SOLID foundation for us. It's coming together quickly because we have the basic knowledge from listening for over 850 hours.
Thank you so much!
I did baselang bootcamp 1 and 2. Combined with 50 hours of intensive 4 hours daily 1 on 1 classes. I can speak quite fluently. Passed B1 and not even 2 months.
Oh wow! Right on!
You also need to hire a coach that you speak with for an hour. They will tell you what you're doing wrong and you'll have that practice of speaking only Spanish for an hour. You will progress very fast if you do that.
Hi! The Tutors at WorldsAcross are speaking with us every day. That's the platform we mentioned we are using to practice speaking. They always correct us and use the chat box to write it out so we can hear and see how to spell it. It's great!
I’ve been with worldsacross since March and it’s been the best decision I’ve ever made!
Oh cool!!! Do you use multiple tutors or have you settled on one or two? We're finding that we have about 3-4 that we keep using over and over and find it helpful.
I have also started using worlds across as well as dreaming Spanish and I think the combination is a winning formula
oh super cool! So far we think so too!
I'm heading to Spain next week for 90 days with around 950 hours CI. I really have no idea how much Spanish I know and I'm curious to find out!
Oh my gosh! How exciting! With 950 hours you should be totally fine and have a great time! What part of Spain are you going to? The Andalusian accent is tough if you're coming to the South. Some are impossible to understand and others barely have it. It's interesting. Enjoy the trip!!
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6ut thank you! I'm going to Madrid for a month and then Malaga for two months.
Awesome 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Gracias Tio!
I am here for the learning Spanish journey. I am very interested in updates on new progress using any method 😅
Haha! You came to the right place! Thanks for watching!
assimil
Is that a name or short for something? Sorry, if it's slang, I'm not cool haha
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6ut Assimil is a language learning company very popular in Europe. From what I understand, their method/program covers grammar notions. They have books and recorded lessons. I am planning to go through the book for Spanish at one point, but I have not started yet, since I've done mostly input (DS... but also Hola Spanish, Spanish con Maria, Spanish con Daniela, Linguriosa, etc. as well as content for Natives whether on RUclips or Netflix.) I also recently started taking one-on-one lessons with a tutor, to get talking practice, while still spending most of my learning time on C.I. So at this point I don't know if Assimil is good or not but the polyglot Luca Lampariello always mention them. Every time he starts a new language, he gets the Assimil book and then also use other method. (He created his own method based on translation... which seems fascinating but way too much work for me!). If I had the chance to be in Spain right now, I would register in a Spanish school for a few weeks. It's total immersion. There are school in many cities of Spain. There is certainly one close to where you are. Anyhow, good luck with your learning journey and trust your guts!
Assimil text book/audio . Its been around for decades. Time tested and actually works. Its the best out there
I have heard so many good things about worlds across.
So far it's been great. The only issue we have is the lack of Spain tutors but we'll share more about that soon.
Great video, and good luck! I also love DS, but I have never found the "wait 1000 hours before speaking" to be very practical. The Spanish Input channel recently looked into this, and he revealed that Krashen reports that even 10 hours of quality input is enough before you can start some output. The best advantage of waiting is that you can understand everything before you need to converse. Once you are at that stage, you can as well start lessons to speak. Best of luck 👍
Just a little suggestion: since you are in Spain now, you could also check the channel Spanish conversation with Olga and Miguel. They are from Spain, so the accent and language variety you want to learn. You could practice shadowing... Greg can repeat after Miguel, and Lisa after Olga. Just a thought...
Great idea! I love them!
You guys are doing great! Whatever study form you chose, make sure to enjoy the path ❤.
Saludos desde España 👋
Muchisimas Gracias!!
Hi folks, great video thanks.i didn’t think they had tutors from Spain. Only Latham speakers. Is this correct and does it matter anyway?
Hi Steve, your right. They only have Latin American tutors. When we found that out, we crossed them off the list at first but Greg was so attracted to the idea of unlimited classes that he kept looking at them. We finally agreed that any Spanish is good Spanish and just went for it. Since we've listened to so much Spain content, we are familiar with some of the different words used. We also only speak Castilian when we talk to our tutors. They know we are in Spain so they don't say anything when we do. Some even know the difference between the two vocabularies.
Great news! I’m like ya’ll. I understand native speakers quite well. My speaking, not so great. I still do dreaming Spanish but I know I need more than that
yeah, I always felt like I needed more. It feels good to put all we've learned while listening to the test!
This is really cool. Thank you for sharing your journey...I am around 500 hours so I have a long way to go before I start speaking...but I have wondered how I was going to find something to help. I'm looking forward to your update with the platform!
Thanks for sticking around to watch! We hope what we are doing will help you!
I don't necessarily think that you guys are diverging from Dreaming Spanish just because you are deciding to explicitly study grammar. Most of Pablo's recommendations are for not speaking at zero or very little input hours and having a silent period in order to not solidify your mistakes and not provide a feedback loop of learning from your internalized voice based on your native language instead of your target language. Since you guys are past 600 hours I think you are mostly following his recommendations. Also Pablo's recommendations on explicit grammar study I believe is mostly just based on that he thinks it's not required and for people that don't like studying it might create a barrier for people to continue learning. On another note, I believe that all the teachers on WorldsAcross are from Latin America, right? Now, I haven't tried it so I don't have any personal experience what teaching methods the teacher may use but I did want to point out if they are from Latin America and you are using them to practice speaking specifically to keep in mind that Spain and Latin American Spanish use different grammar, for instance Spain uses the vosotros form while Latin America does not. I also wanted to say that I personally have 895 hours right now and was going to start speaking at 1000 but I decided to just start practicing pretty recently within the last 50 hours. I didn't really know what I should do so I've tried a few things just to start getting some practice which I won't get into here but I feel like I'm improving just by the simple fact that I am actively practicing. I'm not sure why you guys say that you think you would have to get 1600 hours to get to where you want to because I think the general consensus in the community is you get pretty comfortable at 200 hours. I don't know how much practice you have already done but I'm confident you will get there much sooner than 1600 hours of input. One last thing, sorry this is so long but I don't think you necessarily have to study grammar but just have conversations that use all the grammar that you need. Having a teacher there will be the key that can guide you and make appropriate corrections when necessary but it doesn't specifically have to be oh we're going to practice the subjunctive today but more so that you say something that uses the subjunctive and you say it wrong and the teacher corrects you and I think this is more natural and effective. You guys already have all you need from the input that you have received you just have to convert it from passive to active knowledge.
Hola! Thank you for your thoughtful comment. You make a lot of good points. I think being in Spain gives us a different perspective on what it means to "speak". We've been "communicating" since the beginning, which is great! But we want to do more than that. We actually want to speak. Grammar definitely plays a part in that. The type of conversations we want to have are "I see the coffee shop was closed, and you were on vacation for the past 10 days. Did you have a good time? We definitely missed this coffee shop being open. We had to find a few other places, but none of them were the same. So we're glad you're back. And we'll have the usual. " So how do you say all that in Spanish 🤣 One other point...we did have some concern about the Spain dialect. But what we've realized is that there are so many dialects here in Spain, and speaking Spanish is what matters. Once we are comfortable with speaking, it will be pretty easy to pick up on the dialect specific to our region of Spain. Thanks for stopping by and contributing to the discussion. Buen dia!
Read with the audio version! Very helpful
oh! Like LingQ?! We were looking at that app yesterday!
excited to see the progress 🎉
Muchisimas Gracias!!
Thanks for another update! I'm at 640 hours and have been trying to chart my way forward on how I'm going to practice speaking. I was going to go the route of AI (ChatGPT, myteacherAI) but I'll give WorldsAcross a look- thanks.
As a DS fan myself, I think there's nothing wrong with deviating from the platform when the time is right. 😊 If I'm not mistaken, Pablo even had a video about how the intermediate plateau can persist if one never changes up what they're doing, so it's all good. I'm planning to leave DS within 100-150 hrs myself.
One last thing I want to add: with respect to grammar, in my experience, I can't emphasize how much reading has helped this. (I use LingQ and am at 1.2M words read). I know reading is advised against in the DS roadmap until later, but I can say without a doubt that it has helped a ton with grammar, vocabulary and overall comprehension.
Cool, check WorldsAcross out. Their tutors are from South America though so keep that in mind. We looked up LingQ...totally forgot about it! I'm about to finish the Juan Fernandez books so we are going to use LingQ. Thanks for the recommendation!
You can DO IT!! 💪🙏🏻🔜🥰.
Thank you soooo much!
I can relate to this! I live in Spain and I still speak more English than Spanish in my day to day. I’ve been using AI to have conversations & looked for local friends to talk Spanish to!
Hey Wes! I just looked at your channel, you teach Spanish? Looks like you are just getting started...that's awesome! I like the fundamental approach you are taking. So helpful! Best of luck to you and your channel!
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6ut Thank you so much! I thought it would be a win-win, because it helps me go over the basics once again, while also helping others 💪🏼
Unfortunately the speak early and burn in your gringo accent crowd will use this as fodder But I do support you. Pablo learned English grammer in High School and forgot it but that tuned his ears to 'hear' or notice the grammer. This is actually common to CI. The "forgot my Spanish" crowd is much faster. Pablo's second lanugage was Japanes which has difficult grammer but but but but but that was his 3rd language and he was strong at learning by then. Personally I remain true to Pablo and his method because I hate grammer and I ENJOY litstening and have no reason to rush at all. I'm at 1070 hours. I will meet you at the fluency line soon. :) BTW I started from 0 with DS.
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Grammer 😢
@@DiaryBahasa-bs8yg 😂
Yeah, we all learn differently and have different goals so it's not surprising that we use different approaches. If nothing is urgently forcing you to speak, then taking your time makes sense. Listening is definitely a less stressful method to learn.
Nice to see you guys back. I am about to cross 100 hours of DS, but I might as well confess I am already cheating. First up, DS says to log in "other work" and I don't bother counting Duolingo minutes or whatever. Second, as I think I mentioned, I go with a pretty hard line over what counts in terms of an hour. If I don't understand, probably 95% of what is in the video, not just the concept, but 95% of all individual words, I look up the 5%. With that said, I am sure that Pablo is 100% correct in that picking up Spanish with a good accent requires listening to native speakers with a good accent. He is also 100% correct that reading, while good for reading, does not help with the pronunciation one will need to speak fluently. I am looking forward to checking out worldsacross. Thanks for the updates.
Me alegra que estén felices y que amen a su coach😊
Mi Coach!!! Gracias por ver!
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6ut es un placer!!!
Congrats on your decision! I agree, 1600 hours is too long of a wait and your comprehension is already great. Time to speak
Yup, it's time to push ourselves!
Yesss join the dark side 😈 no but in reality, you can’t get better at speaking without speaking. Listening can only help you to a certain extent. Best of luck!!
hahaha! This made us laugh! So true and Thank you!!
Totally agree. You live in Spain. Listening is not enough. You need to interact with people.
I’m only in Spain for a couple of weeks at a time. So I’ll continue with Dreaming Spanish.
Slightly off topic. I’ve been watching a lot of DS videos back-2-back today because of the weather. Twice I’ve gotten a message asking me to sign in to prove that I’m not a bot. Have either of you had this message?
You’re an inspiration. Please keep making videos.❤
I got that a few times
Yeah, listening is not enough. Maybe for some it can be but not us, unfortunately.
I've never been asked if I'm a bot. That's so strange! I keep the DS webpage open all the time too.
Get out on the street guys and just practice talking with anyone and everyone. It´s actually known that when speaking after x amount of hours of input will be similar to an infant when they start speaking. It´s difficult at first but you will progress, there is no doubt. Poco a Poco.
Yeh we do that on occasion. But it humbles you real quick 😂 Thanks for stopping by!
I think our confidence is growing every day now. With that confidence, we'll be talking more for sure!
@@GregandLisaLewis-vz6ut Yes, that's great! Remember the motivation you guys had for listening and accumulating all those hours? Use some of that motivation for speaking. No doubt your listening comprehension will be really high. You're there with that and you'll get there with speaking too. You'll probably think that you're speaking is ''fatal'' but it probably won't be that bad. As a few do, you might think '' My comprehension is very, very high. Why isn't my speaking''
The speaking needs to be practiced just as the listening was. Input / output. No te des por vencido chicos. 👍
I just discovered Worlds Across yesterday so this video is perfect timing. I'm looking forward to your next video. I spend an hour each day on DS, I also do a bit of Duolingo and I watch RuPaul's Drag Race Mexico and Spain. I don't count the hours for TV but I'm a Drag Race superfan, have watched the show for several other countries and started watching the Mexico show before I started focusing on my Spanish acquisition.
oh cool...perfect timing! haha, RuPaul! That's so cool! That's an awesome way to get input in, with something you love watching!
You could have been speaking from day one. It’s a failed theory.
How can anyone speak from day one without first acquiring input? Input / output. Your theory fails.
@@Vamos1969 You say Hola and make a fool of yourself taking a minute to look up everyword haha! I did speaking lessons from day one and in a month was fully conversational I did the same in French and Portugese now and will repeat in Italian. So I think my theory is solid. Vs listening for years without being able to do the one thing that language learning is for which is communicate.
Technically they were already speaking before Dreaming Spanish. They memorized some phrases or something for their first trip to Spain but were not happy with it.
@@paulwalther5237 Memorizing some phrases isn't speaking a language it's just saying something you can't express yourself or even really understand. If that's the case I "speak" about 20 languages.
@@HideoMaximus Speaking lessons and in a month you were fully conversational? Not a chance you were. You can acquire some language I suppose from speaking lessons but it would take so much more than a month to become fully conversational.
Good for you guys! In your situation you definitely have to fast track speaking. I think it's the hardest part but also the final piece of the puzzle. Get out there and 'just do it'.
I got super lucky and found a wonderful tutor on Preply that I do 1 hour a week with. I love her!
I also have studied a bit of grammar, I enjoy that part though....🤷♀️ go figure.
Greg, glad you have started Language Transfer. I agree with Lisa it is very good. Before I found DS I got through almost 1/3 of all the sessions. As soon as I can find some more time I'll continue on with those also.
I'll be interested to hear how this next phase goes. Keep up all the great work!
Thank you so much for all this and the encouragement! It's definitely the hardest part but within 2 weeks we can tell working with the tutors is helping! We both started focusing on grammar and it's truly putting everything together!
Honestly since y'all have been in Spain for a minute now, I think y'all are probably at 1000 or pretty darn close with all the extra input just having to do regular stuff in day to day life in Spain
That's possible. We don't record the small interactions or the conversations we ease drop on haha
Good for you! I'm working on an update video, but the short of it is that I've been writing in Spanish (in the low 500s hour-wise), speaking to myself etc. and it's feeling good so far! I'm a very sociable person who writes and speaks to anyone who stays still long enough, so shutting up until 1000 hours was never in my plan 🤣
"anyone who stays long enough"...hahaha! I gotta use that! LOL. That's smart to start practicing now.
Start reading and speaking from the bigginning just use the mimic method so you hear the correct pronunciation and do dreaminf spanish
Great advice!
Im at 47 hours but i practice speaking every week. Speaking was my biggest barrier going into this year and ive gotten more comfortable with speaking, although i make mistakes every day. You guys are in Spain so you have access to the language every day. i say utilize it.
That's great that you are practicing already! I think we practiced a little here and there too but I don't think we tried hard enough back then. Now it's coming to bite us in the ass haha! We are fortunate to be in Spain... I totally agree!
I'm glad you're going to start talking. I think listening is great, but you have to practice in all areas of the language to get used to all of them. So, if you want to speak, you have to speak. If you don't practice speaking, you'll always feel a barrier. Listening will only help you to listen. Congrats! I hope you will enjoy this new method!
So true. It's time to expand our ability in the language, makes sense! Thank you so much for the well wishes! 🥰
Honestly this is a good thing. Being a "purist" in anything can be really detrimental. I feel a bit of learning grammar and comprehensible input is great. I really love the idea of chorusing. It's a beautiful thing to be flexible:) Are you getting any affiliate kickback from WorldsAcross?
It's making a huge difference ALREADY to study grammar! I really really need chorusing...I have a problem getting my mouth to move properly when speaking. It's like I know the word but I can't get it out fluently. So I'm hoping chorusing will help. They aren't giving us money, just allowing us to try out the platform.