That’s great to hear ! Very confidence inspiring for me as I am weighing my options between these two . What do you attribute to the KLX300 over the CRF300L ?
@@KentwoodWarrior Thanks for the feedback ! I was thinking the same thing from the information I’ve gathered so far . The instrument cluster is my only negative concern on the KLX so far but it’s not a deal breaker . I can’t believe Kawasaki dropped the ball on that one especially in todays evolving competitive market with technology advancements and innovations .
Good review. II struggled with choosing, but bought the KLX. No regrets at all. I would probably have been just as happy with the Honda, but I weighed the suspension costs and ,add my choice. I will say that the lack of a fuel gauge has had zero affect on me, it has a low fuel light and that’s all I need. Similarly, I don’t miss a gear indicator. I feel RPM and speed, then I know if I’m in the right gear. Both of these are mentioned in every review of the KLX and honestly, they are non issues.
Thanks! I agree, the gear indicator is not a big deal at all.. The fuel gauge is much more important if you're gonna do any kind of touring.. Not an issue for us, we just like trail exploring on these..
@@jcollins2826thanks for the response and I agree about the gear indicator I don’t need it personally and the KLX has the reserve indicator it’s sufficient.
Duallie life baby!!! The KLX is an 83’ Toyota with crank windows…plain but surprises you with its capabilities. The CRF is a Denali truck…flashy and full of gadgets that people look at while parked at Wal Mart.
It's interesting to say the least when I hear experienced riders compare the CRF to KLX. My lifelong buddy has a CRF & I just bought a 2024 KLX 300. This is my first bike, new rider, so I did a lot of looking around, narrowed it down to the CRF & the KLX. I am extremely happy with the KLX & glad I bought it for sure. They're both sweet bikes! It was a hard decision. Not sure why but I LOVE the lime green & black... I'm one of those people who doesn't care what you ride or why as long as you love to ride & have fun. I appreciate experienced input from knowledgeable people, thanks for making this video. Quick blurb: I was at the place where I bought my KLX - Harley Davidson / Kawasaki dealer picking up some oil, filter, gloves. While at the counter one of the head guys was saying this bike is sold, that bike is sold (both Harley's) then he pointed to a Ninja & KLX & said somebody bought those green things, let's move em all out back... I was thinking; how about you be grateful they chose your dealership to buy them & not your competition. I know not all Harley people are like this but WTF?! Just thought I'd share that...
All harley people are actually like that.. There's a few online who will say "I don't care what you ride... " but they all think Harley's are peak riding.. I'd take anything that can do some dirt over a Cruiser any day.. I've probably had 20 or so bikes over the years including a few Harleys. If I could only have one, it would be a dual sport like the KLX no question! Now I have a CRF and a BMW r1250gsa.. Bikes that keep going when the pavement ends are soooo sweet!!!! I hope you have a ton of fun on the KLX brother! Thanks for checking out our video!
You guys are absolutely killing me. My buddies and i have been talking about getting dirt bikes and I was thinking about the whole while riding my riding my Scrambler on the trail yesterday. Then I come home and flip on the RUclips and here you guys are. Can't give a guy a break.. 😂 deciding between a crf250f and klx230r
LOL! Sorry brother. I'd say though, having something you can throw a plate a plate on is a must for us. And I'd recommend looking at one of these since they weigh about the same as the smaller bikes.. I have a 250L and I'd say the 300L is better in every way. The main difference in power is that you're shifting a lot more with the 250s and 230s. The 300s are actually a little easier to ride (broader torque range) and can pull a highway speed if they have to. The KLX300r would be a great trail bike if you didn't care about ever being on the road.
@@DirtObseXXion yea man. Az can put a plate on anything lol i have no intention of pavement. Just some trails and single track stuff. We will see what happens!
@@flyingbriando5521 Yes I am strongly looking at that one as well the only thing that leads me away from that one is I was kind of thinking just keep it with an air cooled bike. Not 100% sure yet but that one is definitly on my short list
I got a Kawi when I was a kid because my parents couldn't afford the Honda, but I'll tell you what, I had absolutely no problem keeping up with all my Honda buddies and it was an awesome machine to ride on the trail or the track. Not one complaint from this guy on his Kawi; granted, that was 50 years ago and I may be forgetting things - HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Thanx for another awesome review video buddy! I'd love to see another trail riding adventure video from you guys somewhere out west in the mountains. Take your machines on a proper test for like 4 days or something and sleep under the stars.
LOL! Thanks Q! I'm heading East in a few weeks to do just that! Taking the GS to Vermont.. Hoping to do South Dakota this year too.. West trip is a priority for next year!
For us this is how it all started many years ago! Once the dirt bike bug grabs ya it never let's go even when you start to age out of em (a little bit anyway). The riding trails for dirt bikes in Michigan are absolutely phenomenal! Never say never we may end up with one again, still miss them dearly! Love the video
@@DirtObseXXion I love it! For all day riding and putting on lots of miles the age thing tends to creep up on ya a bit on 2 wheels a bit more than something on 4 - lol.
I have owned both bikes. Both set up for single track exclusively. I’m on my 2nd KLX & will buy a 3rd. That said, both are great machines & I definitely concur with the findings of your review. It boils down to rider preference & what your intended purpose is for the bike. Where will your riding be focused. You can’t loose, with either bike.
Thanks brother! Key takeaway is that they're both great but they have an entirely different feel.. Glad to hear someone else with a lot of experience with both feels the same way
Finally! You sold me on the klx. I don't know why everyone gets a Honda, then dumps another 3k into it to make it rideable. I finally found a video where someone liked the way the klx feels off road better than the Honda. The aftermarket support for the klx is disappointing though. Would be nice to have a nice big tank.
Heck yeah! It's a fun bike! There is a tank for it.. IMS and it's $400.. That's an expensive piece of plastic! There's tanks for older versions so maybe someday Acerbis will do one..
I agree.. I am struggling hard with making the right pick… the CRF has a ton of aftermarket; skids, racks, large fuel tanks…. My heart says get the Honda and get suspension work… my gut says get the KLX. I want to build a slow riding BDR weapon
@@michaelparker6218 I was in the honda store today. They had a 300 and a rally side by side. Rally looks super good, but both bikes have cheap looking parts once you start looking hard. It's also so weird how light the 300l feels. Feels way lighter to push around than the 450RL beside it. I still think it's worth it to get the KLX though. The Kawasaki didn't have any in stock, they sold 4 last week...
I'm 5'3" 140 lbs and I thought the rider triangle on my crf300 felt absolutely perfect for me, which made me think it is probably cramped for tall riders. I put a lowering link, slid the forks up and got an adjustable kick stand. the bike feels like I am on a 20" bmx bike, it's so nimble and light feeling. I also got the 3.6 gal acerbis tank. it keeps the narrow frame feel with even more capacity than the rally. The gear box is unbelievable. It feels like you are shifting gears on a swiss watch. I am in texas so once I figure out where to mount my AR I'll be all set.
That was a great review ! I am riding the fence between these two right now and I just can’t decide which one to pick. I like the instrument panel on the CRF ( that’s actually huge for me ) fuel gauge and gear indicator is imperative, and it looks bigger and easier to read . The buttery smooth gear box on the CRF also is more appealing ( as well as that slipper clutch) but I like how you stated that the KLX had better / taller 1st and 2nd gear and better down low torque, more planted and predictable to ride and lower center of gravity, better off road oriented…. I don’t know …I was leaning towards the CRF with the aftermarket support and everything, but you guys just made me overthink some things and the better suspension on the KLX and then the cramped riding posture on the CRF lol . I really wish there was somewhere that I could test ride each one , because the dealers around here don’t even have any in stock and they say they can order them but don’t know when they’ll arrive blah blah 😑
I think you're gonna be happy either way dude! We're splitting hairs with these, I'd ride either one any day... I'd honestly go with whichever one I could find a better deal on, save a little money for the aftermarket..
@@DirtObseXXion Well , the CRF300L is $5,399(without ABS ) and the KLX300 is $6,199 . I could buy the CRF and use the extra money to upgrade the suspension if need be , and accessories.
@@dangrimes5078 exhaust just sounds better not much of a horsepower jump. The tune will wake it up more. It just feels like it pulls harder down low now and goes through the gears a bit faster.
Outstanding video. I bought a 2024 KLX and it is everything you described. I chose it over the Honda due to the suspension, and am convinced that it is the best dual purpose bike ever.
The brake line flopping over the dash on both bikes is annoying. My 23 Klx 300 has it tucked nice and neat against the handle bars. Guess I was lucky. Great video.
That's 100% our fault after the bar swap.. we were making adjustments that morning and didn't button them up correctly because we were anxious to ride! Thanks for checking this out!
Great review! I own the Rally model for what I do most, but if I was in the woods I would have the Kawi Enduro platform for all the reasons you highlighted (esp stock suspension). Could the higher center of gravity you noted on the Honda be the larger tank you added? Regarding low end torque, it could be larger rear sprocket on the KLX. I did go up to a 42T rear on my CRF and it behaves much better on "wide" single track and woods roads. Nice work and thorough summary!
Thanks! As far as the high center of gravity being the tank- not entirely.. It's mainly a difference in how the weight is distributed.. KLX weight is low, the crf weight feels more evenly distributed.. It makes the crf feel lighter overall and super flickable, but on slower and rougher trails the klx feels more stable.. Ive personally ridden the crf more, so I prefer it, but I think that's familiarity bias.. We're having a lot of fun on both these bikes tho! The Rally is definitely sweet!
I bought a G310GS for my 60th birthday to do some moto camping. That caused my buddy to buy a CRF300L Rally. Now he's wanting to go on gnarlier trails than I had planned for my retirement. I've never owned a Kawasaki but I've been thinking about the KLX300. I wish there was a good way to add 2 gallons of fuel. In addition to all of the reasons mentioned in this video, the gray KLX300 looks a lot better than the red CRF300L. 😛
Lol! I like the gray too! I'm hoping KTM comes out with the 390 Enduro this year.. I think that will be a better on road bike with more off road capability than the GS310 or current 390. But yes, the tank is a bummer..
Awesome vid. The KLX feels more dirt bike-ish cuz the chassis, engine and suspension are from the late 90's KLX300R trail bike. And almost everything from the old KLX 250 will fit the 300 if u are looking for aftermarket. I sold my KDX and DRZ cuz the KLX300 does everything well with just tires and sprockets matched to terrain.
Good info brother thanks! It definitely feels more "old school" in the best way possible.. I can see a klx beating out a DRZ, but curious what the rub was? Just heavier, no 6th, or just kinda pointless to have both?
@@DirtObseXXion I picked up the DRZ {KLX400, im a Kawi guy} as a project months before I decided to get a '24 KLX. Turned out so good I almost made it my main bike instead of making $ on it. The DRZ hype is real, that engine is a modern marvel. But after riding it in the woods, and 1 day on single track I found out it was a top heavy poor handling tank offroad. And yes, would need constant sprocket swaps for me to enjoy riding it on or offroad cuz of 5 speed. Iv had 3 KLX and its always been my favorite bike. After I seen the new grey color KLX I decided to get it, and not mod much on it after spending buttloads on previous 2. I have a pile of parts from previous KLX that fit if I have the urge but otherwise just pulled the snorkel, 13t sprocket, gold mx chain, pegs, rolled the bars forward and went in on clickers a little. Air up/down to terrain and enjoy it.
Great minds think alike. I’ve been looking at the same style bike. Did you guys look at a Suzuki DRZ400? Looks like it’s a technological dinosaur and somewhat popular. Wonder how it compares to the KLX for a big guy? Always good to see a video from you guys.
Yeah we're definitely interested in the DRZ, especially since we have a LTZ400 and the motor is awesome! The downside is that it's only got 5 gears so that's limiting on the road unless you want to do sprocket changes all the time, and some guys say it's pretty top heavy compared to these... We're loving the dual sport life tho, so I'm sure one of us will grab one out of curiosity.. Im 6'1 240 and these bikes are plenty big for me.. I got a 250l too and even that isn't bad..
The front forks are beyond horrible off-road. Just replacing the rear shock changes the bike from a pogo stick to a hobby horse. Rally Raid suspension at both ends is what the bike really needs to be a decent off roader.
It's such a difficult choice between the two for me. Gear indicator and the fuel gauge are really nice features on the CRF300L that are swaying me towards the Honda. You can also change the gearing ratio on the CRF to make the gears a bit taller (that's what some 300L owners have done with good results). I like the looks of the KLX more in the offroad setting, but I don't mind the loud Honda colors on asphalt. Ideally I should buy both lol.
The paint and fasteners on the CRF are of higher quality. At least, that's the case when I compare between my CRF 250l and KLX 150 BF. The CRF has aged well, and the KLX, despite being 3 years younger with a quarter of the milage.
I really like both bikes.. but honda clearly wins this one. At the end of the day with the best mods possible and an awesome gauge display, honda for the win
I’m probably going to buy one of these. I used to be an intermediate racer but now at 59 yrs I just want to poke around. At 230lbs I’m concerned after I stiffen up the CRF it will be taller than the KLX because the CRF sags an extreme amount in stock form..?
We think the CRF feels taller than the KLX anyway.. The pegs are certainly higher, so standing makes it feel taller even though seat heights are similar. You're probably right about the suspension too of course.. But with your experience I wouldn't necessarily think it would be an overly concerning difference.. I can say that a 250l feels considerable lower than both of these, but it does sacrifice some power
I have a 24 klx. I absolutely love the bike, but only 1 thing. I live in the rockies, so I ride a lot of steep, rocky trails, and I've gotta say that 2nd gear sucks. It doesn't pull up hills hardly at all. I put a 13t sprocket that helped a little, but not enough. Next, I'm putting a 43t to see how it pulls. All in all, the bike is perfect for adventure.
@DirtObseXXion not yet. I've been thinking about a pipe and snorkel. The secondary plate I hear mixed reviews, so I'm undecided. I'm definitely getting a programmer after the pipe and snorkel. Being a poor boy, I can only do a little at a time. Lol
@Dont.Tread.On.Me1974 Totally get that! The secondary plate did wonders for us but I'm not up to speed on the complaints. I'd be willing to bet that you're gonna be thrilled when you do the pipe and programmer
Would you guys be able to do a top 10 or even top 20 best ATV's of all time? It can be 3 wheelers or 4 wheelers, I'd love to see a video like that (ps the Yamaha 225DX should be in the list cause its awesome), just kidding lol. But I love the videos guys
@@DirtObseXXion awesome, I bet it would be an awesome video. Hard to find "top 10" ATV videos on RUclips without that dumb robot voice lol. Also it can be any type of ATV, like a sport trike, UTV Four wheeler, riding 3 wheeler... Ect. Just whichever machines that have been on the market through the years that have had the most impact on the market, and that are the most popular. Hopefully this helps you set it up, have a great day man
I have a 23 KLX 300 because at the time I couldint find a new crf 300l. I’m glad I went with klx couldint be happier. Just wish there was more parts and accessories for it
The vibration and center of gravity are good points. If I could have tried both bike one after an other I might have went with a new look/led lights klx. Something to consider also would be the klx stator output power, I could not find it. The crf has an aux plug and enough power to add accessories.
That's a good point! I think the Honda, despite the vibrations, is probably a little more conducive to longer road slogs.. But they're both super fun.. Just a little different flavors
Almost bought the CRF but couldn’t find one so I got the KTM 690 instead. 10-20lbs or so heavier but has 74hp which is pretty hilarious especially on the back roads. I recommend trying it out if you can.
I picked up a 2024 a few weeks back. And absolutely no buyers remorse. I actually feel bad for the bike because I don't have any trails where I live. The 2024 KLX300, with me a 240lbs rider, gets on average 56mpg as well. It actually gets worse mpg on the highway than it does on gravel or city. But with 56mpg and 2 gallons of gas, I don't find myself stressing out over how much I have left. As long as you reset your trip A or B each time you fuel up, you should be just fine to go where ever you want to go and then some. I rode in a storm the other night and she took it like a champ. The stock tires rode just fine on wet roads. I'd say the one complaint I do have is the gearing for on road use. But I can't complain about it because I bought a damn dirtbike with lights. What else can you expect? But overall, if you're a new rider or new to dualsports. I highly recommend the KLX300. 400ish miles in 3 weeks. Probably rode the bike 5 times total so far. And she just eats everything like a pig.
Congratulations on the new bike! One thing we noticed on the klx is that gas mileage seems to improve after the break in period, so you may notice a little more range over the next few months!
300L was the number one selling dual sport in 2023, and it wasn't close. Honda has the winning formula, no doubt. Very surprised there was no mention of a tremendous CRF advantage, the slipper clutch. Great feature NOT on the KLX. Honda is cheaper too. CRF FOR THE WIN.
I have both and I’d say he’s got quite a bit of bias towards the KLX. But hey to each their own 🤷🏻♂️ Edit: now seeing how their entire channel is about quads this makes more sense.
Yeah coming from quads would definitely influence our perspective.. Ive personally spent a lot more time on the CRF, so I naturally prefer it because of familiarity.. All we were really trying to do is explain the difference in feel and riding experience.. We've heard people say that these bikes feel almost identical and that's definitely not true.. There's subtle differences that could help folks decide which bike is more suited to their preference.. If you have both you know they don't feel the same..
The seat height is fairly similar but we would have guessed the KLX was lower. The klx seat is more narrow which should help you reach the ground and the lower center of gravity makes it feel more manageable at a stop.
The CRF300L is not viable long term option. The rear shock is a pogo stick, the radiators bend easy, slipper clutch has longevity issue. in stock form CRF300L is comparable to Versys 300. These small dual sports do not need larger fuel tank. Fuel bladder is better, gives you more range without sacrificing agility. Most after market parts are time vampire and cash dump.
I'm sure you could find an anti-vibe bar clamp or something.. But for proper context, we didn't really notice the vibrations very much until after riding the KLX.. So by comparison it vibrates more but it's not something I'd spend money on trying to fix...Do you already have a CRF?
@DirtObseXXion no I don't. I used to want a klx but I thought it was taller than the crf. So I started focusing more closely on the crf. I'm 5'8". Planning on buying possibly by next summer.
@TheObsessiveGardener Sweet.. Yeah you really can't go wrong either way. Don't let the vibration comment scare you.. It's really not a problem, just an observation.. Ride a Harley sometime and you'll experience extreme vibrations 🤣
I have the new KLX and just sold a project DRZ. I honestly think they are the two best dual sports right now. Im a bigger guy 6'2 220lbs and both bikes fit well, but the DRZ was a lot bigger. Back roads and dirt road the DRZ was more fun cuz of the power. But was a top heavy poor handling tank offroad. If u are not doing serious offroad or single track its a blast. The KLX is way better at the latter, i just got a Lust Racing Jack Up Link in rear for my weight the oem suspension works well with just clicker adjustments.
A pretty pointless comparison in my eyes, comparisons are valid when performed between motorcycles that are still stock standard, when at the end conclusions the prospective buyer can hopefully reach an informed opinion of which stock motorcycle might be best suited to their requirements, once a bike has been modified in any way no matter how minor then that motorcycle is not suitable to be used by prospective purchasers as a guide to what he/she will be buying from a dealership. These 2 bikes are not even close to what they are straight from a dealership and the various changes good or bad such as the vibrations you mentioned on the crf will not be present on stock standard bikes also not everyone has an obsession to change their brand new bike into something that it wasn't intended to be in the first place . Just a point here, you seemed to be struggling with the point of the hondas first gear, a lot of owners don't bother using it on the road but take these two bikes in stock trim to the steepest dirt hill you can find then you'll see the benefit of the really low gearing when the crf is at the top of the hill and despite several attempts the klx runs out of steam barely half way up. All that being said in stock form both bikes are excellent choices for their intended use, no point in buying either if you're expecting an enduro/ mx class of performance, there's plenty of options already available without having to bin half the bike to turn into one. I own a crf and my mate a klr his choice through brand loyalty mine because I liked the specs of it and what I wanted out of it and it has to be said on the bitumen where both our bikes spend most of their time with some gravel and light trails,the crf feels more like a road bike it's that smooth whereas the klx still feels more like a dirt bike on bitumen not as bad as an enduro with more dirt oriented tyres aka my other mate on his ktm 500, but definitely not as kind to your body as the crf is. Cheers.
That's one way to look at it.. Another way to look at it is that most of the time, owners will modify these bikes immediately, and the bikes live the majority of their lives having been modified.. So why not compare them from the perspective of how they will be owned and ridden with similar mods? We know they're both restricted stock and we know the suspension is terrible on both stock and we also know they've been compared a million different times in stock trim.. We tried to offer a slightly different perspective.
It's subjective.. We've got a lot of experience in comparisons with powersports, so while dimensions and displacement are obviously similar.. We were looking for the nuances in the weight feel and balance.. Dork is also doing this for a living.. So he's going to be apprehensive about being too critical so he gets opportunities from the manufacturers.. We don't care about that.
Yeah, as far as what we're doing on the weekends for fun now it's pretty much Adventure bikes and dual sports.. The Viking still races quads in IXCR.. The bikes opened up a lot of new riding opportunities for us.. We can go to more places and those places are a lot less crowded. Dual sports are super fun, in some ways they're alot more fun than quads.. Being street legal is what opens up more riding opportunities for us.. The only thing I miss sometimes is really hammering on a quad.. I think a dual sport is the bike equivalent of a 4x4 ATV.. Super fun but it has some limitations for straight up trail shredding.. A lot of that is my limitations as a rider too, but it's fun doing something different for a change..
Street legal being the key….. would open up a whole new world. Have a buddy trying to talk me into one….. they do everything from trail riding to gravel logging/forest mountain roads to long distance paved highway trips, with one bike! Sounds pretty exciting to me, have done atv’s & side x sides for yrs and still fun but limited to where you can go. Many Tks and keep up the excellent work!!!
Sold my CRF and have the KLX now. Just a better dual sport
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That’s great to hear ! Very confidence inspiring for me as I am weighing my options between these two .
What do you attribute to the KLX300 over the CRF300L ?
This is the way!
@@NorthwoodsNomadpretty much better at everything aside from instrument cluster and some aftermarket options
@@KentwoodWarrior Thanks for the feedback ! I was thinking the same thing from the information I’ve gathered so far . The instrument cluster is my only negative concern on the KLX so far but it’s not a deal breaker .
I can’t believe Kawasaki dropped the ball on that one especially in todays evolving competitive market with technology advancements and innovations .
Good review. II struggled with choosing, but bought the KLX. No regrets at all. I would probably have been just as happy with the Honda, but I weighed the suspension costs and ,add my choice. I will say that the lack of a fuel gauge has had zero affect on me, it has a low fuel light and that’s all I need. Similarly, I don’t miss a gear indicator. I feel RPM and speed, then I know if I’m in the right gear. Both of these are mentioned in every review of the KLX and honestly, they are non issues.
Thanks! I agree, the gear indicator is not a big deal at all.. The fuel gauge is much more important if you're gonna do any kind of touring.. Not an issue for us, we just like trail exploring on these..
@jcollins2826 how much do you weigh ?
@@johnmclaughlin4802 215 lbs. I’m probably at the top weight for the KLX suspension.
@@jcollins2826thanks for the response and I agree about the gear indicator I don’t need it personally and the KLX has the reserve indicator it’s sufficient.
Duallie life baby!!! The KLX is an 83’ Toyota with crank windows…plain but surprises you with its capabilities. The CRF is a Denali truck…flashy and full of gadgets that people look at while parked at Wal Mart.
Nailed it! 🤣🤣🤣
A CRF300 is flashy and full of gadgets? lol what? Are you living on planet earth? It’s a $4500 budget bike. What gadgets are you speaking of?
@@randomname839 Well.. If you ride a KLX a gear indicator and fuel gauges seems pretty flashy! Sooo... Sarcasm
@@randomname839 $4500 budget bike? You must live on the planet “I don’t know the price of bikes”. Take that
@flyingbriando5521 I just walked out the door with one a few days ago. 67 100 dollar bills
This video couldn’t have come at a better time!
Nice! You getting a dually dude!?!
@@DirtObseXXion Looking for a little trail bike…my CR500 days are over!
@@DUNEATV 👀
It's interesting to say the least when I hear experienced riders compare the CRF to KLX. My lifelong buddy has a CRF & I just bought a 2024 KLX 300. This is my first bike, new rider, so I did a lot of looking around, narrowed it down to the CRF & the KLX. I am extremely happy with the KLX & glad I bought it for sure. They're both sweet bikes! It was a hard decision. Not sure why but I LOVE the lime green & black... I'm one of those people who doesn't care what you ride or why as long as you love to ride & have fun. I appreciate experienced input from knowledgeable people, thanks for making this video.
Quick blurb: I was at the place where I bought my KLX - Harley Davidson / Kawasaki dealer picking up some oil, filter, gloves. While at the counter one of the head guys was saying this bike is sold, that bike is sold (both Harley's) then he pointed to a Ninja & KLX & said somebody bought those green things, let's move em all out back... I was thinking; how about you be grateful they chose your dealership to buy them & not your competition. I know not all Harley people are like this but WTF?! Just thought I'd share that...
All harley people are actually like that.. There's a few online who will say "I don't care what you ride... " but they all think Harley's are peak riding.. I'd take anything that can do some dirt over a Cruiser any day.. I've probably had 20 or so bikes over the years including a few Harleys. If I could only have one, it would be a dual sport like the KLX no question! Now I have a CRF and a BMW r1250gsa.. Bikes that keep going when the pavement ends are soooo sweet!!!! I hope you have a ton of fun on the KLX brother! Thanks for checking out our video!
Let's be honest, it takes a certain level of ignorance to buy a new Harley-Davidson.
cool story bro
You guys are absolutely killing me. My buddies and i have been talking about getting dirt bikes and I was thinking about the whole while riding my riding my Scrambler on the trail yesterday. Then I come home and flip on the RUclips and here you guys are. Can't give a guy a break.. 😂 deciding between a crf250f and klx230r
LOL! Sorry brother. I'd say though, having something you can throw a plate a plate on is a must for us. And I'd recommend looking at one of these since they weigh about the same as the smaller bikes.. I have a 250L and I'd say the 300L is better in every way. The main difference in power is that you're shifting a lot more with the 250s and 230s. The 300s are actually a little easier to ride (broader torque range) and can pull a highway speed if they have to. The KLX300r would be a great trail bike if you didn't care about ever being on the road.
@@DirtObseXXion yea man. Az can put a plate on anything lol i have no intention of pavement. Just some trails and single track stuff. We will see what happens!
@@OdysseyOffroad Oh that's right.. Free state still! I'll be watching to see what you get and how you like it!
I had a CRF250F and it was a great bike but like Chad said…give the KLX300R a look.
@@flyingbriando5521 Yes I am strongly looking at that one as well the only thing that leads me away from that one is I was kind of thinking just keep it with an air cooled bike. Not 100% sure yet but that one is definitly on my short list
I got a Kawi when I was a kid because my parents couldn't afford the Honda, but I'll tell you what, I had absolutely no problem keeping up with all my Honda buddies and it was an awesome machine to ride on the trail or the track. Not one complaint from this guy on his Kawi; granted, that was 50 years ago and I may be forgetting things - HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Thanx for another awesome review video buddy! I'd love to see another trail riding adventure video from you guys somewhere out west in the mountains. Take your machines on a proper test for like 4 days or something and sleep under the stars.
LOL! Thanks Q! I'm heading East in a few weeks to do just that! Taking the GS to Vermont.. Hoping to do South Dakota this year too.. West trip is a priority for next year!
For us this is how it all started many years ago! Once the dirt bike bug grabs ya it never let's go even when you start to age out of em (a little bit anyway). The riding trails for dirt bikes in Michigan are absolutely phenomenal! Never say never we may end up with one again, still miss them dearly! Love the video
You don't age out of Dirt bikes.. you age into adventure bikes 😁
@@DirtObseXXion I love it! For all day riding and putting on lots of miles the age thing tends to creep up on ya a bit on 2 wheels a bit more than something on 4 - lol.
@DirtyJakTheDustyBean No doubt about it.. My 70 year old parents are riding from NY to AZ this month, so I know I've got a few more years
Great video iam getting the kLX hands down thanks guys hello from Toronto Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
Great comparison. Well done as usual. Keep them coming!👍👍👍
Thanks Jason! Hope you're getting the KLR back out!
One of the best comparison videos
Thank you!
I walked into the dealer this afternoon fully intent on buying a CRF300l and walked out with a KLX300. Thank god they had a demo discount
Sweet! Honestly either one is sweet.. Congratulations dude!
The Honda's better.
@@salazam cool story.
I have owned both bikes.
Both set up for single track exclusively.
I’m on my 2nd KLX & will buy a 3rd.
That said, both are great machines & I definitely concur with the findings of your review.
It boils down to rider preference & what your intended purpose is for the bike.
Where will your riding be focused.
You can’t loose, with either bike.
Thanks brother! Key takeaway is that they're both great but they have an entirely different feel.. Glad to hear someone else with a lot of experience with both feels the same way
Great comparison guys, very detailed. Usually the mechanics test ride the two wheelers but I'll keep my eyes open for these two.
Thanks! They're worth a try!
Finally! You sold me on the klx. I don't know why everyone gets a Honda, then dumps another 3k into it to make it rideable. I finally found a video where someone liked the way the klx feels off road better than the Honda. The aftermarket support for the klx is disappointing though. Would be nice to have a nice big tank.
Heck yeah! It's a fun bike! There is a tank for it.. IMS and it's $400.. That's an expensive piece of plastic! There's tanks for older versions so maybe someday Acerbis will do one..
I agree.. I am struggling hard with making the right pick… the CRF has a ton of aftermarket; skids, racks, large fuel tanks…. My heart says get the Honda and get suspension work… my gut says get the KLX. I want to build a slow riding BDR weapon
@@michaelparker6218 I was in the honda store today. They had a 300 and a rally side by side. Rally looks super good, but both bikes have cheap looking parts once you start looking hard. It's also so weird how light the 300l feels. Feels way lighter to push around than the 450RL beside it. I still think it's worth it to get the KLX though. The Kawasaki didn't have any in stock, they sold 4 last week...
That’s not quite an accurate statement. Stock the CRF is more than rideable. If you want to really turn it up then you drop the 2-3k into the mods.
People get the Honda in many countries because the new KLX isn't an option there. For example, Europe does not import the KLX due to its lack of abs.
I'm 5'3" 140 lbs and I thought the rider triangle on my crf300 felt absolutely perfect for me, which made me think it is probably cramped for tall riders. I put a lowering link, slid the forks up and got an adjustable kick stand. the bike feels like I am on a 20" bmx bike, it's so nimble and light feeling. I also got the 3.6 gal acerbis tank. it keeps the narrow frame feel with even more capacity than the rally. The gear box is unbelievable. It feels like you are shifting gears on a swiss watch. I am in texas so once I figure out where to mount my AR I'll be all set.
Agree 100% the crf is super nimble! You figure out a bar mounted tripod and you're going to be in business! 🤣🤣🤣
Been riding DP bikes since 1982. Just bought a KLX300. Nice little bike.
42 years on two wheels 💪💪💪
Is that like where you get it in the front as well as the rear?
@@salazam Haha! I see what you did there.
Let’s get a part 2! Or a WR250R comparison with them as well!
I wanted and needed a good bike right out of the box I live to far to be doing upgrades I don’t regret my choice KLX300 done
It's a sweet bike!!! Hard to go wrong either way, but we really like the KLX
You got the wrong one.
That was a great review ! I am riding the fence between these two right now and I just can’t decide which one to pick.
I like the instrument panel on the CRF ( that’s actually huge for me ) fuel gauge and gear indicator is imperative, and it looks bigger and easier to read .
The buttery smooth gear box on the CRF also is more appealing ( as well as that slipper clutch) but I like how you stated that the KLX had better / taller 1st and 2nd gear and better down low torque, more planted and predictable to ride and lower center of gravity, better off road oriented…. I don’t know …I was leaning towards the CRF with the aftermarket support and everything, but you guys just made me overthink some things and the better suspension on the KLX and then the cramped riding posture on the CRF lol .
I really wish there was somewhere that I could test ride each one , because the dealers around here don’t even have any in stock and they say they can order them but don’t know when they’ll arrive blah blah 😑
I think you're gonna be happy either way dude! We're splitting hairs with these, I'd ride either one any day... I'd honestly go with whichever one I could find a better deal on, save a little money for the aftermarket..
@@DirtObseXXion Well , the CRF300L is $5,399(without ABS ) and the KLX300 is $6,199 . I could buy the CRF and use the extra money to upgrade the suspension if need be , and accessories.
@@NorthwoodsNomad Exactly.. Eventually you'd probably want to do the suspension on either bike anyway.
CRF feels new and modern. The KLX feels like a rusty knife that never goes dull
I almost bought a klx300 but went with crf300 rally with rear shock upgrade, yoshimura exhaust and 550 performance tune. This bike feels amazing now.
Yeah we did the 550 performance tune, rear shock and fork spring.. It's a great bike!
@@DirtObseXXion yeah my first dual sport. I love it more everyday.
@@95turboteggy65 Wait till you ride a dizzer
Can you tell me how much the exhaust cost and did it make a difference? Thank you.
@@dangrimes5078 exhaust just sounds better not much of a horsepower jump. The tune will wake it up more. It just feels like it pulls harder down low now and goes through the gears a bit faster.
Outstanding video. I bought a 2024 KLX and it is everything you described. I chose it over the Honda due to the suspension, and am convinced that it is the best dual purpose bike ever.
Congratulations brother! We were just out riding these things today, dual sports are the best!
That's called ownership-bias and it's a form of cope.
Have stiffer suspension replacement on my CRF. Feels perfect now. Thanks for this good video 👍
I like the CRF, a little suspension work and it's super flickable! Thanks for checking out the vid 🤘
BRAAAAAP! Hope you didn't cheap out like these guys did.
The brake line flopping over the dash on both bikes is annoying. My 23 Klx 300 has it tucked nice and neat against the handle bars. Guess I was lucky. Great video.
That's 100% our fault after the bar swap.. we were making adjustments that morning and didn't button them up correctly because we were anxious to ride! Thanks for checking this out!
Please do more with these two machines
I'm a Honda man.. but that KLX is a pretty bike.
I'm more of a Honda guy too, but the KLX is the best thing Kawasaki has going for themselves
I feel like the KLX can be sunk in a pond for a wk and then start back up.
Great review! I own the Rally model for what I do most, but if I was in the woods I would have the Kawi Enduro platform for all the reasons you highlighted (esp stock suspension). Could the higher center of gravity you noted on the Honda be the larger tank you added? Regarding low end torque, it could be larger rear sprocket on the KLX. I did go up to a 42T rear on my CRF and it behaves much better on "wide" single track and woods roads. Nice work and thorough summary!
Thanks! As far as the high center of gravity being the tank- not entirely.. It's mainly a difference in how the weight is distributed.. KLX weight is low, the crf weight feels more evenly distributed.. It makes the crf feel lighter overall and super flickable, but on slower and rougher trails the klx feels more stable.. Ive personally ridden the crf more, so I prefer it, but I think that's familiarity bias.. We're having a lot of fun on both these bikes tho! The Rally is definitely sweet!
I would like to see both manufacturers build long maintenance interval 450 models actually Suzuki and Yamaha need to do the same 😎🍻
I dont have any experience with the crf but im very happy with my klx.
Sweet bike for sure!
I bought a G310GS for my 60th birthday to do some moto camping. That caused my buddy to buy a CRF300L Rally. Now he's wanting to go on gnarlier trails than I had planned for my retirement. I've never owned a Kawasaki but I've been thinking about the KLX300. I wish there was a good way to add 2 gallons of fuel. In addition to all of the reasons mentioned in this video, the gray KLX300 looks a lot better than the red CRF300L. 😛
Lol! I like the gray too! I'm hoping KTM comes out with the 390 Enduro this year.. I think that will be a better on road bike with more off road capability than the GS310 or current 390. But yes, the tank is a bummer..
Man this video really makes me miss my KLX
Awesome vid. The KLX feels more dirt bike-ish cuz the chassis, engine and suspension are from the late 90's KLX300R trail bike. And almost everything from the old KLX 250 will fit the 300 if u are looking for aftermarket. I sold my KDX and DRZ cuz the KLX300 does everything well with just tires and sprockets matched to terrain.
Good info brother thanks! It definitely feels more "old school" in the best way possible.. I can see a klx beating out a DRZ, but curious what the rub was? Just heavier, no 6th, or just kinda pointless to have both?
@@DirtObseXXion I picked up the DRZ {KLX400, im a Kawi guy} as a project months before I decided to get a '24 KLX. Turned out so good I almost made it my main bike instead of making $ on it. The DRZ hype is real, that engine is a modern marvel. But after riding it in the woods, and 1 day on single track I found out it was a top heavy poor handling tank offroad. And yes, would need constant sprocket swaps for me to enjoy riding it on or offroad cuz of 5 speed. Iv had 3 KLX and its always been my favorite bike. After I seen the new grey color KLX I decided to get it, and not mod much on it after spending buttloads on previous 2. I have a pile of parts from previous KLX that fit if I have the urge but otherwise just pulled the snorkel, 13t sprocket, gold mx chain, pegs, rolled the bars forward and went in on clickers a little. Air up/down to terrain and enjoy it.
@tieoneon1614 Good to know, thanks brother!
Great minds think alike. I’ve been looking at the same style bike. Did you guys look at a Suzuki DRZ400? Looks like it’s a technological dinosaur and somewhat popular. Wonder how it compares to the KLX for a big guy? Always good to see a video from you guys.
Yeah we're definitely interested in the DRZ, especially since we have a LTZ400 and the motor is awesome! The downside is that it's only got 5 gears so that's limiting on the road unless you want to do sprocket changes all the time, and some guys say it's pretty top heavy compared to these... We're loving the dual sport life tho, so I'm sure one of us will grab one out of curiosity.. Im 6'1 240 and these bikes are plenty big for me.. I got a 250l too and even that isn't bad..
It's better. You should get one.
Great comparison video, thank you!
Thanks!
Replace the rear shock on the CRF 300L, 550 performance ECU and full exhaust & they'll have a unicorn 🦄.
It had the 550 Performance catalog on it before it had a mile. Blinky box is on the KLX
@@flyingbriando5521 My bad
The front forks are beyond horrible off-road. Just replacing the rear shock changes the bike from a pogo stick to a hobby horse. Rally Raid suspension at both ends is what the bike really needs to be a decent off roader.
@@user-se7vt5ow4e Cool thanks for your opinion post a video of your bike 🫡.
unicorns are gay. I bet you have streamers on the handlebars and glitter on your gas tank.
It's such a difficult choice between the two for me. Gear indicator and the fuel gauge are really nice features on the CRF300L that are swaying me towards the Honda. You can also change the gearing ratio on the CRF to make the gears a bit taller (that's what some 300L owners have done with good results). I like the looks of the KLX more in the offroad setting, but I don't mind the loud Honda colors on asphalt. Ideally I should buy both lol.
You really can't go wrong either way.. It's just personal preference and the minor differences will melt away with time and familiarity
You know who chooses things based on color? Women.
The paint and fasteners on the CRF are of higher quality. At least, that's the case when I compare between my CRF 250l and KLX 150 BF.
The CRF has aged well, and the KLX, despite being 3 years younger with a quarter of the milage.
Good observations.. These are new so we couldn't speak to longevity, but Honda is always on point with the fit and finish 👌
I really like both bikes.. but honda clearly wins this one. At the end of the day with the best mods possible and an awesome gauge display, honda for the win
I’m probably going to buy one of these. I used to be an intermediate racer but now at 59 yrs I just want to poke around. At 230lbs I’m concerned after I stiffen up the CRF it will be taller than the KLX because the CRF sags an extreme amount in stock form..?
We think the CRF feels taller than the KLX anyway.. The pegs are certainly higher, so standing makes it feel taller even though seat heights are similar. You're probably right about the suspension too of course.. But with your experience I wouldn't necessarily think it would be an overly concerning difference.. I can say that a 250l feels considerable lower than both of these, but it does sacrifice some power
I have a 24 klx. I absolutely love the bike, but only 1 thing.
I live in the rockies, so I ride a lot of steep, rocky trails, and I've gotta say that 2nd gear sucks.
It doesn't pull up hills hardly at all.
I put a 13t sprocket that helped a little, but not enough. Next, I'm putting a 43t to see how it pulls.
All in all, the bike is perfect for adventure.
Did you do anything performance-wise? Ours was kind of a turd until the throttle intake mod, pipe, and programmer.. That really opened it up a lot
@DirtObseXXion not yet. I've been thinking about a pipe and snorkel. The secondary plate I hear mixed reviews, so I'm undecided.
I'm definitely getting a programmer after the pipe and snorkel.
Being a poor boy, I can only do a little at a time. Lol
@Dont.Tread.On.Me1974 Totally get that! The secondary plate did wonders for us but I'm not up to speed on the complaints. I'd be willing to bet that you're gonna be thrilled when you do the pipe and programmer
Would you guys be able to do a top 10 or even top 20 best ATV's of all time? It can be 3 wheelers or 4 wheelers, I'd love to see a video like that (ps the Yamaha 225DX should be in the list cause its awesome), just kidding lol. But I love the videos guys
I have that script written.. Just gotta get motivated to do it
@@DirtObseXXion awesome, I bet it would be an awesome video. Hard to find "top 10" ATV videos on RUclips without that dumb robot voice lol. Also it can be any type of ATV, like a sport trike, UTV Four wheeler, riding 3 wheeler... Ect. Just whichever machines that have been on the market through the years that have had the most impact on the market, and that are the most popular. Hopefully this helps you set it up, have a great day man
Thanks !!!
I have a 23 KLX 300 because at the time I couldint find a new crf 300l. I’m glad I went with klx couldint be happier. Just wish there was more parts and accessories for it
It's a great bike! But yeah, aftermarket is a little frustrating.
are you guys gonna do a street review?
Like which is the best street? Asphalt, concrete or brick?
The vibration and center of gravity are good points. If I could have tried both bike one after an other I might have went with a new look/led lights klx. Something to consider also would be the klx stator output power, I could not find it. The crf has an aux plug and enough power to add accessories.
That's a good point! I think the Honda, despite the vibrations, is probably a little more conducive to longer road slogs.. But they're both super fun.. Just a little different flavors
Make sure it comes with a cupholder for your starbucks too.
Almost bought the CRF but couldn’t find one so I got the KTM 690 instead. 10-20lbs or so heavier but has 74hp which is pretty hilarious especially on the back roads. I recommend trying it out if you can.
We got a Husky 701 🤘
@@DirtObseXXion hell yeah, nice
We may have to make a 701 vid after the goodies get installed
@@flyingbriando5521 I don't see how it could be avoided at this point.
Add 2 more wheels and a thumb throttle! LOL Awesome Review DO!
Lol! We'll do that when you put a thumb throttle on the Twin 🤣🤣🤣
@@DirtObseXXion And….a clutch
@@flyingbriando5521 🤣🤣🤣
Great review man, I am on a 2021 and I have to admit the 2024 is a much sexier KLX.
Thanks brother! The gray is 🔥.. We had to add a homemade graphic to get that murdered out look 🤣🤣🤣
This is the way to do a bike review 🤘
Thanks brother
I got a 450 BMW by far the best dual sport I've ever owned
Nice! I've always wanted to try the 650 out.. I got 1250GSA, don't think that counts as a dual sport..
I picked up a 2024 a few weeks back. And absolutely no buyers remorse. I actually feel bad for the bike because I don't have any trails where I live. The 2024 KLX300, with me a 240lbs rider, gets on average 56mpg as well. It actually gets worse mpg on the highway than it does on gravel or city. But with 56mpg and 2 gallons of gas, I don't find myself stressing out over how much I have left. As long as you reset your trip A or B each time you fuel up, you should be just fine to go where ever you want to go and then some. I rode in a storm the other night and she took it like a champ. The stock tires rode just fine on wet roads. I'd say the one complaint I do have is the gearing for on road use. But I can't complain about it because I bought a damn dirtbike with lights. What else can you expect? But overall, if you're a new rider or new to dualsports. I highly recommend the KLX300. 400ish miles in 3 weeks. Probably rode the bike 5 times total so far. And she just eats everything like a pig.
Congratulations on the new bike! One thing we noticed on the klx is that gas mileage seems to improve after the break in period, so you may notice a little more range over the next few months!
cope
@@salazam ?
@@IowasDirtyCivilian If you didn't have buyer's remorse you wouldn't be making all these excuses.
@salazam I aint even gonna waste my time on you
300L was the number one selling dual sport in 2023, and it wasn't close. Honda has the winning formula, no doubt. Very surprised there was no mention of a tremendous CRF advantage, the slipper clutch. Great feature NOT on the KLX. Honda is cheaper too. CRF FOR THE WIN.
Finally a channel that doesn’t just cuck over the Honda because it’s a “Honda”.
🤘
Ask yourself this question
Why does the CRF out sell the Green machine 6 or 10 to 1 ... ?
I have a XR650L and a KDX200h…Kawasaki is more comfortable, not as cramped as the 650, sounds like this comparison actually
Two awesome bikes right there.
Heck yeah! Thanks for stopping by Rick!
I have both and I’d say he’s got quite a bit of bias towards the KLX. But hey to each their own 🤷🏻♂️
Edit: now seeing how their entire channel is about quads this makes more sense.
Yeah coming from quads would definitely influence our perspective.. Ive personally spent a lot more time on the CRF, so I naturally prefer it because of familiarity.. All we were really trying to do is explain the difference in feel and riding experience.. We've heard people say that these bikes feel almost identical and that's definitely not true.. There's subtle differences that could help folks decide which bike is more suited to their preference.. If you have both you know they don't feel the same..
@@DirtObseXXionoh 100% agree they don’t feel the same. 👍
Too funny I bought a KLX 300R my self…..to go on the garage with my 22 Renegade 850 XXC
I wished I live closer to trails like this 😭
Me too! It's a 2 and 1/2 drive from decent riding areas like this for me.. I know it could be worse tho!
Is there any difference in manual, about oil change interval ?
id like to see honda bring back the ole 300 fourtrax or upgrade the recon to a 300 in both 2wd and 4wd and kawasaki bring back the bayous
Lol! I hear you loud n clear!
Which one for a shorter rider? Im 5'7" and would prefer as close to flat footing as possible
The seat height is fairly similar but we would have guessed the KLX was lower. The klx seat is more narrow which should help you reach the ground and the lower center of gravity makes it feel more manageable at a stop.
2024 KLX dropped down to 4899 surprised it dropped down
Anyone else have a price drop I’m from San Diego
The one thing it did help me decide is to look at Royal Enfield.
That new one seems interesting.. Im really hoping to see a ktm390 enduro
Make a video on the new brute force
The old Brute with the new Guage and headlight? That's next
Kawasucky!
LOL! To each his own I guess
The CRF300L is not viable long term option. The rear shock is a pogo stick, the radiators bend easy, slipper clutch has longevity issue. in stock form CRF300L is comparable to Versys 300.
These small dual sports do not need larger fuel tank. Fuel bladder is better, gives you more range without sacrificing agility. Most after market parts are time vampire and cash dump.
I've never seen a bike with a barkers... i love mine on my trx700 but yes very loud
Yeah that's the first Barkers I've seen on a bike too.. Looks great and absolutely screams!
Is there a way to make the vibration of the crf less...vibratey?
I'm sure you could find an anti-vibe bar clamp or something.. But for proper context, we didn't really notice the vibrations very much until after riding the KLX.. So by comparison it vibrates more but it's not something I'd spend money on trying to fix...Do you already have a CRF?
@DirtObseXXion no I don't. I used to want a klx but I thought it was taller than the crf. So I started focusing more closely on the crf. I'm 5'8". Planning on buying possibly by next summer.
@TheObsessiveGardener Sweet.. Yeah you really can't go wrong either way. Don't let the vibration comment scare you.. It's really not a problem, just an observation.. Ride a Harley sometime and you'll experience extreme vibrations 🤣
Hey, you guys good?
Lol! Yeah we're good.. We've just been putting energies elsewhere and takin a break from YT.
@@DirtObseXXion I get it!! Cheers 🍻 Bro!
@@DUNEATV 🍻
I have an Acerbis tank and alot of their protective bits on my KTM. IMS is on crack with the prices.
Crack!
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Does Kawasaki make a 400 or 450 version of this bike ??
Not anymore
Being a bigger fella I’m more intrigued about a drz-400.
I could see a drz in my future...
I have the new KLX and just sold a project DRZ. I honestly think they are the two best dual sports right now. Im a bigger guy 6'2 220lbs and both bikes fit well, but the DRZ was a lot bigger. Back roads and dirt road the DRZ was more fun cuz of the power. But was a top heavy poor handling tank offroad. If u are not doing serious offroad or single track its a blast. The KLX is way better at the latter, i just got a Lust Racing Jack Up Link in rear for my weight the oem suspension works well with just clicker adjustments.
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A pretty pointless comparison in my eyes, comparisons are valid when performed between motorcycles that are still stock standard, when at the end conclusions the prospective buyer can hopefully reach an informed opinion of which stock motorcycle might be best suited to their requirements, once a bike has been modified in any way no matter how minor then that motorcycle is not suitable to be used by prospective purchasers as a guide to what he/she will be buying from a dealership. These 2 bikes are not even close to what they are straight from a dealership and the various changes good or bad such as the vibrations you mentioned on the crf will not be present on stock standard bikes also not everyone has an obsession to change their brand new bike into something that it wasn't intended to be in the first place . Just a point here, you seemed to be struggling with the point of the hondas first gear, a lot of owners don't bother using it on the road but take these two bikes in stock trim to the steepest dirt hill you can find then you'll see the benefit of the really low gearing when the crf is at the top of the hill and despite several attempts the klx runs out of steam barely half way up. All that being said in stock form both bikes are excellent choices for their intended use, no point in buying either if you're expecting an enduro/ mx class of performance, there's plenty of options already available without having to bin half the bike to turn into one. I own a crf and my mate a klr his choice through brand loyalty mine because I liked the specs of it and what I wanted out of it and it has to be said on the bitumen where both our bikes spend most of their time with some gravel and light trails,the crf feels more like a road bike it's that smooth whereas the klx still feels more like a dirt bike on bitumen not as bad as an enduro with more dirt oriented tyres aka my other mate on his ktm 500, but definitely not as kind to your body as the crf is. Cheers.
That's one way to look at it.. Another way to look at it is that most of the time, owners will modify these bikes immediately, and the bikes live the majority of their lives having been modified.. So why not compare them from the perspective of how they will be owned and ridden with similar mods? We know they're both restricted stock and we know the suspension is terrible on both stock and we also know they've been compared a million different times in stock trim.. We tried to offer a slightly different perspective.
Not much new stuff coming out lately
I have under stood the crf is sprung way soft.
Absolutely 💯
Dork
says the differences are very minimal. What gives?
It's subjective.. We've got a lot of experience in comparisons with powersports, so while dimensions and displacement are obviously similar.. We were looking for the nuances in the weight feel and balance.. Dork is also doing this for a living.. So he's going to be apprehensive about being too critical so he gets opportunities from the manufacturers.. We don't care about that.
klx win
I made a new video you guys might like
Cool! I'll check it out brother
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Are you boys making the move to 2 wheelers? Thinking of doing the same…. What are your thoughts on these dual purpose machines vs atv’s? Tks!
Yeah, as far as what we're doing on the weekends for fun now it's pretty much Adventure bikes and dual sports.. The Viking still races quads in IXCR.. The bikes opened up a lot of new riding opportunities for us.. We can go to more places and those places are a lot less crowded.
Dual sports are super fun, in some ways they're alot more fun than quads.. Being street legal is what opens up more riding opportunities for us.. The only thing I miss sometimes is really hammering on a quad.. I think a dual sport is the bike equivalent of a 4x4 ATV.. Super fun but it has some limitations for straight up trail shredding.. A lot of that is my limitations as a rider too, but it's fun doing something different for a change..
Street legal being the key….. would open up a whole new world. Have a buddy trying to talk me into one….. they do everything from trail riding to gravel logging/forest mountain roads to long distance paved highway trips, with one bike! Sounds pretty exciting to me, have done atv’s & side x sides for yrs and still fun but limited to where you can go. Many Tks and keep up the excellent work!!!