I would use a dynamic EQ for the "thump". That way it doesn't interfere with the overall warmth of the sound and only kicks in when there's actually a problem.
I always wondered why everybody said cut the mids to get rid of the quack, the plastic. Nobody explained why. I suspect most don't know why. Finally somebody explained it. Thanks!
Very well done. A nicely explained basic rule of how to EQ acoustic guitars. Was a little blown away when you said you almost never compress acoustics, but the way I'm using them I guess I have to and in other instances it really isn't needed. When I do compress, It's very light with a fairly high threshold and a medium-ish release and attack. I wish I had seen this video years ago before I had to painfully figure a lot of this out, but even still you reminded me of how to approach it in a simple clear manner.
I know we use the word “nasal” a lot but when you were boosting that 500-800hz before pulling it down a bit I literally felt it in my sinuses lol. Crazy how sensitive our bodies our, and how we always have the answer in us somewhere
Excellent Joe! 👏🏻 It's funny that you mention compression, as not compressing an acoustic guitar. I did bunch of acoustic guitar mic test today, yesterday, with LDC, SDC, ribbon, and Dynamic mics. They ranged in price form about $100.00 up to around $2000.00. I'm not a fan of compression in general, but I did my genereal test with all my compressors and limiters, and every single one of the mics sounded way better without any compression or limiting of any kind.
This is a really awesome video for some like myself who is learning the basics of EQ'n with an Acoustic. I would say its one of the best in depth videos I've watched. you break it down and make it extremely easy to understand.
Thank you Joe, now I won't jump out a window. You're so right even if you know what you are doing there's a real art to recording and mixing AC GTR and it is no quick venture pulling into a complex mix and not losing it.
Thanks for providing me some guidance on "shaping" my sound for acoustic guitar. I am novice to mixing and am never content with my acoustic guitar tracks.
Smiley face on the eq I thought was my old way of thinking but still sounds great. Also, I just assumed everything need compression. I have been adding too many flavors to my mix and spoiling the pot I am starting to think. Thanks for this dude 👍👍 I'm on focusrite 2i2 4the gen using reaper. The last time I went live I ended up only adding reverb and removing everything else and I sounded much better. I'm trying to get that full sounding live vocal and acoustic sound.
This was a great tutorial. Like you said miking techniques can help get a good sound right from the beginning. I am learning to record acoustics and have a carbon fiber model. Let me tell you it has been a challenge. It has it's own personality, so I think my efforts to make it 'sound like wood' will only go so far. I finally have a tone I can work with. Thanks!
Compressing an acoustic guitar works REALLY WELL if you want it to be used to supplement the percussion. But if you're just using it for flavor, as backup for electric guitar, or as a solo instrument, compression tends to ruin the emotion behind the playing. It should really only ever be used to make it more percussive. If you have a part that's too quiet, get a decent mix and then automate the volume fader. If that doesn't work, THEN use compression as a last resort. And of course, try to fix that problem in the recording stage before it becomes a mixing nightmare.
This is super helpful. I'm mixing a project that has nearly a dozen acoustic guitar tracks. Half were done by me on a Yamaha Trans-Acoustic & a RODE mic, the other half by my friend (a recording engineer) on a very high-end Takamine. Unfortunately, he only recorded the DI (I know, really??) and you can CLEARLY hear the plastic thump of the pick thru the pizo pickup. It (more or less) disappears in the mix, but solo'd it sounds nasty. I have been desperate to fix this without asking him to re-record with a mic, and this may do the trick. Gonna try my go-to Waves F6 dynamic EQ and see if I can nail this problem. Fingers crossed :)
Thank you for posting this. I have archived recordings of my solo fingerstyle guitar performances going back to 1980. I want to clean these up and make them available. I notice you're using Pro EQ with Studio One. Is that Studio One Professional (my guess) or Studio One Artist? Do you know if Pro EQ is available for SO Artist either built in or as a plug in? I don't need many tracks!
Hey Joe, will the same principle apply to EQ-ing a brighter sounding guitar such as a Taylor? I see you’re using a Gibson, and even after your EQ your guitar still sounds warm. Can you show an example of a brighter sounding guitar? By the way great video, thanks!
Very good vid Joe Gilder. I am wondering how to apply this same principal when I next record my gorgeous Baritone acoustic. Same principal I'd imagine. Thanks so much for this. Cheers
Thanks so much Joe - this was really helpful. Can you recall roughly how far the mics were from the sound hole when you recorded this track? We seem to get a lot more energy from our acoustic guitars, and I think it's because we're getting too close in order to minimise room noise. Also, sorry we've only just subscribed: we've learned a huge amount from your channel over the last few years and it's disgraceful that we've only just remembered to click a button xx
Really dig your videos.loved the eq you are using in this video,i think because it has bar graph type spectrum analyzer.i see that is a presonus plugin but i am running cubase.Do you know of any third party plugins out there similar to this that are reasonably priced?
Thanks for all your videos I learn a lot. With the recording acoustic guitar videos I’m assuming your using a preamp. Can you talk about how the preamp makes a difference to the sound?
Thanks Joe, simplicity is always helpful. I know you mentioned finger style but just to clarify, would you say these guidelines apply equally to ‘skin on string’ finger style and especially when it’s just solo guitar/s rather than something that would be part of a larger mix? Thanks again. 👍😎
aaaargh, I hate that thump but you know what.... that IS the sound of a dread... dreads have modes just like rooms... the highest peak is always at around 150 - 170hz... but I find if I remove it it loses some of the personality of the instrument. I also find that mic placement doesnt really help but maybe you can tell me if you have found a position that works better.
Always relevant, Joe, and doubly so today, as I have just received my J-45 this week. If you have time for a question: I always wonder how much I need to be concerned about the room. Are you recording guitar parts like that in the room we see on the screen, or do you have a cleaner sound stage somewhere? I'd love to see you demonstrate the tracking process you use to GIRATS.
I would use a dynamic EQ for the "thump". That way it doesn't interfere with the overall warmth of the sound and only kicks in when there's actually a problem.
Same 🤘🏻
Good idea... Tdr nova?
I only record guitar and vocals, this helps so much. Almost everything I've learned is from this channel. Thanks broseph
I always wondered why everybody said cut the mids to get rid of the quack, the plastic. Nobody explained why. I suspect most don't know why. Finally somebody explained it. Thanks!
Very well done. A nicely explained basic rule of how to EQ acoustic guitars. Was a little blown away when you said you almost never compress acoustics, but the way I'm using them I guess I have to and in other instances it really isn't needed. When I do compress, It's very light with a fairly high threshold and a medium-ish release and attack. I wish I had seen this video years ago before I had to painfully figure a lot of this out, but even still you reminded me of how to approach it in a simple clear manner.
Joe's the man! Always explains things in simple terms making mixing a pleasure! Thanks Joe!
I know we use the word “nasal” a lot but when you were boosting that 500-800hz before pulling it down a bit I literally felt it in my sinuses lol. Crazy how sensitive our bodies our, and how we always have the answer in us somewhere
Dude thank you! This is the perfect level of detail. A lot tutorials I leave more confused than I started because they’re way too long winded
Excellent Joe! 👏🏻
It's funny that you mention compression, as not compressing an acoustic guitar. I did bunch of acoustic guitar mic test today, yesterday, with LDC, SDC, ribbon, and Dynamic mics. They ranged in price form about $100.00 up to around $2000.00. I'm not a fan of compression in general, but I did my genereal test with all my compressors and limiters, and every single one of the mics sounded way better without any compression or limiting of any kind.
This is a really awesome video for some like myself who is learning the basics of EQ'n with an Acoustic. I would say its one of the best in depth videos I've watched. you break it down and make it extremely easy to understand.
Joe Always make sense!!!
Thank you Joe, now I won't jump out a window. You're so right even if you know what you are doing there's a real art to recording and mixing AC GTR and it is no quick venture pulling into a complex mix and not losing it.
One of your best explanations to EQ.
great tips my friend! acoustic guitar is a tricky beast when it comes to eqing. this definitely opened up some opportunities for me. thanks again!
Nothing but excellence. Really appreciate your channel and courses. Thanks Pally!
Bro, you're the man!
Excellent tutorial.
Thanks for providing me some guidance on "shaping" my sound for acoustic guitar. I am novice to mixing and am never content with my acoustic guitar tracks.
A great help thanks. A simple easy to understand method - my Epiphone now sounds as good on recordings as it does live. 😊
Thanks very much for this tips. They really made a diference on the acoustic guitar sound of my last recording.
Thanks Joe!
Thanks Joe...!
Thx for this, some great tips...and effective
Thinking of cutting or boosting the freqs like turning up or down the fades is a great way to look at the eq. Thank you
That "Sorry 😬" (0:12) is so familiar... ) Thanks for the video!
I like these ideas!!
Helped a lot. Thank you, Joe.
Sounding good Joe!
❤❤❤❤❤❤amazing and informative. So much info and so much advice and so much to go off and try for myself. Thank you. ❤❤❤❤❤
thanks for making everything so understandable
Great stuff as always. Very helpful and clearly explained. Can't ask for anything more! Thank you.
Very helpful for someone beginning ,Thank You Joe
Thank you
Thank you Joe, always love your approach and common sense tips. Just bought a Faderport 8 today my first Presonus! :) Tod
I use the LA2A compressor with a slight compression in busy mix and it works right
Thanks! This helps a lot!
thank you ..i was wondering whats going on..... great tip!
GREAT!! Thanks!!
Put on a dynamic eq for that thump.
Thank you so much! Sweet and simple, super helpful!
Terrific video!
Big help. Very informative and to the point. Thanks
Smiley face on the eq I thought was my old way of thinking but still sounds great. Also, I just assumed everything need compression. I have been adding too many flavors to my mix and spoiling the pot I am starting to think. Thanks for this dude 👍👍 I'm on focusrite 2i2 4the gen using reaper. The last time I went live I ended up only adding reverb and removing everything else and I sounded much better. I'm trying to get that full sounding live vocal and acoustic sound.
incredible video super
This was a great tutorial. Like you said miking techniques can help get a good sound right from the beginning. I am learning to record acoustics and have a carbon fiber model. Let me tell you it has been a challenge. It has it's own personality, so I think my efforts to make it 'sound like wood' will only go so far. I finally have a tone I can work with. Thanks!
Good stuff!
I love your projectnames
good one... thanks bro...
Awesome great music song. Bass guitar. So sound
Again, thank you very much. Very helpful to me.
Compressing an acoustic guitar works REALLY WELL if you want it to be used to supplement the percussion. But if you're just using it for flavor, as backup for electric guitar, or as a solo instrument, compression tends to ruin the emotion behind the playing. It should really only ever be used to make it more percussive. If you have a part that's too quiet, get a decent mix and then automate the volume fader. If that doesn't work, THEN use compression as a last resort. And of course, try to fix that problem in the recording stage before it becomes a mixing nightmare.
Excellent video, very useful and informative!
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Thanks so much! Great and useful video!
Very good advice thnx lot ..
Incredible tutorial, thank you!
Great job, Joe! Thanks
Always joe
This helps so much. Thank you!
As always, thanks for you help!!!
Thanks Joe! You are so helpful!
Merci
very good tutorial about EQ here thanks 🙏🏻
Thanks for your awesome videos.
Amazing trick I'll implement it 🥳
Thank you so much bro! Great material!!
Hi, Joe! Thanks for the clear and logical explanation! Keep it up!
Thanks Joe. I wish we were able to solo the frequencies in the Pro EQ.
This is super helpful. I'm mixing a project that has nearly a dozen acoustic guitar tracks. Half were done by me on a Yamaha Trans-Acoustic & a RODE mic, the other half by my friend (a recording engineer) on a very high-end Takamine. Unfortunately, he only recorded the DI (I know, really??) and you can CLEARLY hear the plastic thump of the pick thru the pizo pickup. It (more or less) disappears in the mix, but solo'd it sounds nasty. I have been desperate to fix this without asking him to re-record with a mic, and this may do the trick. Gonna try my go-to Waves F6 dynamic EQ and see if I can nail this problem. Fingers crossed :)
this is a superb video, thank you so much for it
great video
First eq move = new strings.
amazing dude
Enjoyed....good lesson , cheers
Great advice. Ty sir
Thank you for posting this. I have archived recordings of my solo fingerstyle guitar performances going back to 1980. I want to clean these up and make them available. I notice you're using Pro EQ with Studio One. Is that Studio One Professional (my guess) or Studio One Artist? Do you know if Pro EQ is available for SO Artist either built in or as a plug in? I don't need many tracks!
Great video Joe!!
Gold!
Hey Joe, will the same principle apply to EQ-ing a brighter sounding guitar such as a Taylor? I see you’re using a Gibson, and even after your EQ your guitar still sounds warm. Can you show an example of a brighter sounding guitar? By the way great video, thanks!
Thanks Joe - really helpful (as always) 🙏🏻🤟
Love your vids man 💯
Great tips Joe. I'm using this approach on a project today.
Any tips on EQ for a high pitched a style mic'd, no internal pick up, mandolin?
Your the fucking greatest man
Very good vid Joe Gilder. I am wondering how to apply this same principal when I next record my gorgeous Baritone acoustic. Same principal I'd imagine. Thanks so much for this. Cheers
Yup same principle, only more low-mids to wrestle
@@HomeStudioCorner Thanks. She "Barri" is likely to be found "Running around" sometime soon I suspect.
Looks good. If I weren't deaf in one ear and could hear in the other I'd give you two thumbs up. 👍
That was really helpful, thank you. Subscribed to your channel already
NO MAN!
Hi Joe this lows (around 150) may depends whether AG is in solo (then I would say add/keep it) or it is in the whole mix (attenuate it).
Thanks so much Joe - this was really helpful. Can you recall roughly how far the mics were from the sound hole when you recorded this track? We seem to get a lot more energy from our acoustic guitars, and I think it's because we're getting too close in order to minimise room noise.
Also, sorry we've only just subscribed: we've learned a huge amount from your channel over the last few years and it's disgraceful that we've only just remembered to click a button
xx
‘Think of EQ as faders, but for frequencies’.
That’s gurd.
👍 nice video
Noo, that boom! Poor j45 bottom! 🤗.
No comp on acoustic... Need to think over this tip. Thank you, Joe. Cheers
Really dig your videos.loved the eq you are using in this video,i think because it has bar graph type spectrum analyzer.i see that is a presonus plugin but i am running cubase.Do you know of any third party plugins out there similar to this that are reasonably priced?
Hi! i'm wondering if you have a song with acoustic set?
Thanks for all your videos I learn a lot. With the recording acoustic guitar videos I’m assuming your using a preamp. Can you talk about how the preamp makes a difference to the sound?
Is there anything different would you do with nylon string acoustic?
Thanks! Could you cover the same for clean electric guitar?
Thanks Joe, simplicity is always helpful. I know you mentioned finger style but just to clarify, would you say these guidelines apply equally to ‘skin on string’ finger style and especially when it’s just solo guitar/s rather than something that would be part of a larger mix?
Thanks again. 👍😎
aaaargh, I hate that thump but you know what.... that IS the sound of a dread... dreads have modes just like rooms... the highest peak is always at around 150 - 170hz... but I find if I remove it it loses some of the personality of the instrument. I also find that mic placement doesnt really help but maybe you can tell me if you have found a position that works better.
... suggest using a dynamic eg to not loose all the warmth but tame the thump.
Does this apply to live performances?
Always relevant, Joe, and doubly so today, as I have just received my J-45 this week. If you have time for a question: I always wonder how much I need to be concerned about the room. Are you recording guitar parts like that in the room we see on the screen, or do you have a cleaner sound stage somewhere? I'd love to see you demonstrate the tracking process you use to GIRATS.