Are Battlecruisers TOO STRONG? StarCraft 2
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2023
- SC2 Global StarCraft 2 League 2023 - GuMiho calls in the fleet against Creator in a chaos filled Terran vs Protoss series!
StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - Global StarCraft League Code S 2023 Season 2 RO16 - GuMiho (Terran) vs Creator (Protoss) - Best of 3
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The fusion core theme music never gets old lol
Lord of the Rings music is amazing
@@Chara-yp6zjwhich track is that?
I always laugh
Agreed
the “Lighting of the Beacons”
Didn't realize that Gumiho got promoted all the way to admiral during his mandatory military service.
give carriers repair drones but make them give up 2 interceptor slots - carrier becomes support unit. Buff Tempest to have splash or debuff.
Creator, in a stunning turn of events, decides to grab the chess board and bludgeon Gumiho over the head with it, thus disregarding Gumiho's reality and substituting his own
I love the new card of Gumiho ! he was promoted "Admiral", while before he was "The Last Terran Mech"
3:15 impressive how he pushed the adept onto the mine with a grenade
The heart shape of creator's base @ 13:14 lmao
at the 42:30 mark. the casual "your mother" joke got me
Damn, GuMiho's been increasing his rank irl 🔥🔥🔥
The MechDonalds CEO is making bank this year. 💰
15:50 "AAAAAAAAND" *music drops* Gumiho never lets us down
Who would have thought i would fall in love with watching sports. Winter is the best caster since tastosis and makes me laugh so much more. My man said Bio-curious and i'm still cracking up.
@42:33 "You guys have phones... right?" Now where I have I heard that one before...
Gumiho is an inspiration. Just turned thirty five, and might have lost some APM over the years. But he still has that quick mind even if the fingers are a little slower.
On one hand, I love watching battle cruisers dominate, however there probably needs to be a change if Terran just gets the 2 best late game units
15:20
It was at this moment that i smashed the like button. So stylish.
At this point I'm very spoiled. I don't want to see a game unless it has Byun, Dark, Creator, Ghumiho, Hero etc. They just produce insanely close games where you can't say any race is OP but as soon as they play the lesser ranks people start thinking a race is OP etc
All Cure games Winter casts are also bangers. Would love to see more MaxPax too
@@sharpie11112 dang yeah, how did I forget MaxPax, he's def right up there with the greatest
None of the races are OP but I think it’s clear that Protoss is a little worse than the other two..
@@alimansour2323 Protoss is worst, and Terran is strongest. No need to beat around the bush. Even the pros now are speaking out that Terran is strong. Previous GSL round of 4 are all Terrans. The current GSL round of 8 are 5 Terrans. Even when Zerg was at its strongest with BL and winfestors before the nerf (around Serrals rise) and the Protoss at its strongest Golden Armada before that, they haven't reached this dominance.
that "your mother joke" with the phone calls was, hilarious.
Easy change to mine drops to make them more fair. Make like 10-15% of the dmg be a burn instead of the explosion so it doesn't one shot probes with just one mine, well at least not if the protoss doesn't have a battery or the zerg doesn't transfuse.
I definitely pick up when Winter's mother calls me.
Yeah he walked right into that trap.
The new uploads have been awesome Winter ♥️👍🏽
Nice to actually see a PvT set that the Protoss wins. Feels like we don't get many of those these days.
licking your tears... MMmmmmmm; yuummmyyyy!
you hate to see it
That nuke in-game one was awsome!
So many upgrades sniped on that first game :O
🎶 Fusion Core!!! 🎶
All the yamatos at once at end of first was satisfying.
Can someone explain why they didnt use anti armour missile and guardian shield in the final fight in game 1?? Was gonna try to learn how to counter mass bc raven from better toss but it seems even the pros dont have a solution
Its good to see that gumiho is no longuer the last mech terran and he even got a promotion to admiral
Holy shit that first game felt like a master class in controlling your opponents options.
Hey carriers without interceptors can do something. Provide high ground vision.
What do the symbols on the player cards mean?
Great Winter!
I've seen most of your commentary and I must say, you really outdid yourself on this one. Now do another one already >.> JEEEZ.
Loved that nasty micro in games 2 and 3 omg
Satisfying nukes AND battlecruisers? Yes please!
Gumiho’s new nickname is great!
Dark, GuMiho, and Hero!! we demand more
i haven't watched in a very long time,
so i don't know when it began,
but i wanted to say that i love the Hearthstone player cards
I always make my daughters look away when the widow mines drop in the main.
I like "The Last Mech Terran" better as Gumiho's nickname
Last game was chaos, but a win is a win.
"Grand Admiral Gumiho" sounds cooler IMO
"the Fusion Core could become something more"
What do you mean, we're OUT of olives?!
if gumiho in game 2 didn't run half his reinforcements into the stalkers on accident and grouped them with the everything he could afford. When he broke out of the main/natural into the 3rd and took it rallying with his main army. if he has like 10-20 more marines and a couple marauders maybe a tank. he could have easily pulled this off but its those very small things. so close incredible try by the ordinary man.
You have my attention if you beat: Gumiho, Byun, Cure, Maru etc
I don't know why but that Creator card always fucking makes me laugh when I'm high, the picture and name is perfect.
The new meta is impressive to watch. Poor poor Protoss.
We need a new unit the Wintership with frost cannons and jimmys infulltration.
These Hearthstone cards are possibly my favorite!
The fact that you said 30 is old.....gahhh I guess I'm just bones at this point
Yes. Battle cruisers and ghosts.
36:00 Absolute noob here, watching Winter every day, but playing just COOP, not MP so I am sorry if I missed something...
But wouldn't it be better for Creator to recall his army on the field to the nexus to get reinforced by his warp-ins that were otherwise just rolled over? Also, Creator would get highground on the main... but I guess he wanted to save the expo, but why? Gumiho was going all-in... maybe the city would block most of the units from getting into range?
YES!!!!!!! YES THEY ARE!
Entertaining casts as always! Thanks for the entertainment! Separately is it just me or does it seem like Protoss wins are despite the race... Lol
Ahh yes, 2.30 in, and we have the greatest of the greats in action. The widow mine. The pinnacle of interactive visual software, the most ingenious unit of all time a cross all games of all genres, the highlight of human civilization and our designs and ingenuity. It's just brilliant, and it makes everything better! COULDN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT!
What a game 3.
Thank You
Om nom nom
Battle Cruisers Fully Operational
I'll give you one like, but only because I happen to not run into this through autoplay while leaving youtube runnning when going to sleep.
for something called battlecruisers anything there was a real lack of battlecruisers.
As a Battlecruiser ABUSER,
Yes, yes they are.
More box art combat please
When did GuMiho change his title? Just noticed lol 😂
Edit: yea, just 1 min later in the video lol
Would void rays, being faster than carriers be better suited to chasing down the fleet? Cheaper than carriers too
No, only unit combinations work. Void/Carrier or Void/Tempest can work but is far too expensive difficult to transition to. Stalker/Tempest is by far the best.
14:35
put them in the hands of kybrit and see if they're op
I haven't seen the video yet, but yes...
It all depends if U have more void rays then battlecruisers with phoenixes to tank Yamato
There is no such thing as using units to "tank" a manual shot like Yamato... If you went Voids or Phoenix Vs BC you have lost the game.
No, they are not overpowed, just protoss is WAY TOO UNDERPOWERED for years and they don't want to fix that.
I have maintained for quite some time that once you get about 13 battlecruisers up (without falling massively behind in production and economy and stuff) protoss legitimately cannot do anything to beat you. Void rays and stalkers are effectively countered by yamato cannon, carriers are very bad against BCS, esspecially when behind on upgrades, and whilst tempests can theoretically kite BCs to death, tactical jump can massively outmanouver the tempests, and yamato lets you smash the tempests if you get in range.
Obvious issue is getting to 13BCs without dieing, considering the expense and production time, but playing to a maxed out High economy situation and building 5 starports with tech labs is definitely a way to go about it.
Mass Stalker+Tempest can and has destroyed mass BC at pro level, as has Void+Tempest, although that is much harder to get and doesn't really happen with two players of equal skill. Mass singular units never works.... this isn't Plat league...
Creator was just outplayed. The game was over long before he somehow got surprised by mass BC which is in itself an embarrassment.
Gumiho is a gambling man lol
1078. Give me the LOTR sountrack
I thought you'd be to at least 1,080 likes by now...
That first game was the best methodical, thought out and wonderfully executed breaking Protoss apart I've ever seen.
better commentary then gsl
Finally, the truth is coming out. Battlecruisers will become meta! This must continue!
spoiler
thats what happens when you dotn counter air
i think it makes total sense for the very bronze-league battlecruisers to be beaten by the (in my opinion) most bronze-leauge unit in the game: the mothership!
now that i think about it: adding at least 2-3 voidrays per battlecruiser and 4-5 dark templar, then fill up the rest with phoenixes and there you go XD
Yes they are too strong
teleport and yamato cannon need energy costs
they used to have it and i don't remember why it was removed
If you lose to mass BC you deserved to. Creator played like garbage in that game.
@@hivetech4903 I'll look forward to your feature matches where you do better
@@ninjabreadman22 Point taken - I should've said in comparison to GuMiho. On that map he made very rare mistakes for a player of that level and was steamrolled as a result of it. BCs didn't look strong because the two players weren't playing as equals.
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Answer: Yes, but that's not really the issue, and they're not too strong by much-- the issue isn't that BCs are too strong (even though, again, they are, by a bit), it's that Carriers are, and have been for years now, too weak. For no logical reason.
Not strong enough. They need the abilities in the beta showcase, 2 battle cruisers kill 60 marines in 3 seconds with a aoe bombardment
This clickbait works on me.. must watch
Too strong, or too awesome?
I see a hint/reference of battlecruiser i simply click play.
TERRRRRRRAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!
Gumiho not playing mech is blasfemy click bait treason.
skytoss is trash vs BC jumping on top of carrier every time.
No Winter, they're not too strong.
5001 like for broodwar?
every vid i have to fast forward until the fake hearthstone cards are off screen. my dr said i have to cut down on my cringe intake lol
Then leave, its fun and not serious at all.
I really don't understand how the balance designers of this game can justify a dedicated teleportation for a Terran capital ship, happens to be this single strongest unit in the game, against what is supposed to be the most technologically advanced/ superior species " Golden Armada" that gets absolutely dunked on by the BC