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  • Iain Dale asks Tory leadership contender Penny Mordaunt if she still believes trans women are women.
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Комментарии • 976

  • @susanpotter9720
    @susanpotter9720 Год назад +10

    Nothing worse th an a woman who throws other women and girls under the bus..mordant is a prime example ...

  • @RobynLeSueur
    @RobynLeSueur Год назад +325

    I'm trans and I don't care about this half as much as these people. Can we talk about the cost of living crisis please?

    • @postpunky
      @postpunky Год назад +2

      all issues are important, cost of living affects EVERYONE so don’t worry, cost of living is the priority.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +26

      I care, but largely because it terrifies me what some of those contenders will attempt if they come into office. I can't stand this back peddling of rights.

    • @fenhen
      @fenhen Год назад +10

      You can talk about more than 1 thing.
      Something like this will never ever be discussed based on your logic.

    • @chrislambe400
      @chrislambe400 Год назад +2

      They will do their best as always to ignore the needs of the public and distract and shift the focus and debates to highly polarising issues to hide their failures and shortcomings. And shovel public money into tory donor pockets.

    • @ysabelcook9521
      @ysabelcook9521 Год назад +7

      @@postpunky suella and rishi and kemi dont seem to agree with you 🤭 they are more focused on these culture wars and people on benefits 😒

  • @lauralishes1
    @lauralishes1 Год назад +28

    As usual a Tory denying what we all saw and heard for ourselves. We need the lot of them gone

    • @gary63693
      @gary63693 Год назад +1

      Don't you listen? or do you have selective hearing?

    • @postpunky
      @postpunky Год назад +5

      @@gary63693 okay gary time to take your meds

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад

      Damb my lieing eyes😂

  • @kevint1719
    @kevint1719 Год назад +62

    She's been called a liar on this by politicians and civil servants who worked with her. By their accounts she did try and push for "self-ID" and she did try and keep the word woman out of legislation. She just wants the issue to go away while she's running for leader and it won't work.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад +2

      Let's hope not
      But seeing as we voted BoJo in who is a professional lier,
      Not sure we can depend on anything, apart from ourselves & each other🤗

    • @louiecarter2261
      @louiecarter2261 Год назад

      It should go away, it's entirely a non-issue. This being brought up as a big issue when we are in the largest economic crisis of the last 80 years is ridiculous. There is no data to support trans people being a danger to women in women's spaces.

  • @nataliewhite7104
    @nataliewhite7104 Год назад +413

    What is so fascinating about these kinds of 'culture war' issues to me is that nearly everyone I meet doesn't care about them, but I see every news organisation reporting on them, all the time.
    (Edit) That is to say, media organisations ratcheting up the culture war for profit or politics harms everyone, and we would maybe stop being at each other's throats so much if media outlets didn't constantly try to make an issue of things like this.

    • @friendgray1
      @friendgray1 Год назад +38

      Trying to wind up the right wingers

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +16

      The issue I have with this specific political conversation is it is undermining and back-peddling a lot of the rights we as a community fought for, the fact such rights were enshrined in law shows just how marginal the voices against Trans rights were. Now a few high profile people have got in with this group of ultra-conservative feminists who have historically aligned themselves with anti-abortion groups, we have to have conversations about 'tolerance' which, frankly, if someone is struggling to grasp the concept of, well I'm not sure I care to hear their opinions.

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Год назад +7

      Your comment says a lot about the company you keep. 🤔😄

    • @modestproposal9114
      @modestproposal9114 Год назад

      The Right wing is intellectually and morally bankrupt with unpopular policies. They use culture war issues to distract voters from the fact they are being f***Ed.

    • @mikeymc3094
      @mikeymc3094 Год назад

      Natalie
      Yes we get it rammed down our throats

  • @daliamosesp
    @daliamosesp Год назад +272

    wish people would stop using trans people lives as if they're some kind of political football to be kicked around for easy point scoring
    so few people in the UK are actually trans. yet it dominates news headlines constantly now. it's so frustrating to see.

    • @gw2934
      @gw2934 Год назад +7

      Do you not recognise marxism in motion?

    • @paulreynolds7103
      @paulreynolds7103 Год назад +71

      @@gw2934 you don't even understand the meaning of that word

    • @JottoHearthStone
      @JottoHearthStone Год назад +36

      @@gw2934 when you learn what the word means you can use it.

    • @casperwallace9685
      @casperwallace9685 Год назад +23

      I think you will find, no one is stopping anyone calling themselves what ever they wish for what ever reason.
      They are saying. their trans rights are not MORE important than women's safe area rights. You don't get the right to destroy someone else's rights because of what you believe, because you feel this way or that way, it should NOT over ride the rights of woman.

    • @georgebeswick7549
      @georgebeswick7549 Год назад

      @@casperwallace9685 What politicians are trying to do is restrict trans people from being the gender that they identify as

  • @TheOrlandoTrustfull
    @TheOrlandoTrustfull Год назад +282

    Can we focus on stuff like people who literally can't afford to feed themselves?

    • @stevea8320
      @stevea8320 Год назад

      Yes i agree!!! We need to shut down the farms for the globalist agenda this will help!!

    • @vivo-audio
      @vivo-audio Год назад

      We're about to get an unelected right-wing government with policies that will make life worse for those already living in poverty. I doubt it will be addressed until these criminals are kicked out of office.

    • @NTVT1999
      @NTVT1999 Год назад +16

      Yeah but having a PM that denies the experience and identity of people she's representing isn't the best thing in the world and should be addressed if she decided to change her position so publicly

    • @TheOrlandoTrustfull
      @TheOrlandoTrustfull Год назад +17

      Hunger and poverty is an issue that is affecting everyone, including trans people. This is just political point scoring.

    • @SevenSagesRO
      @SevenSagesRO Год назад +4

      Who literally can't afford to feed themselves?

  • @arzemagic
    @arzemagic Год назад +6

    You say safe spaces for women does that include people just say they are women because you’re not very clear on that

  • @rivolinho
    @rivolinho Год назад +25

    "Yeah, I can't heat my home AND buy three squates meals for the family..... BUT GENDER NEUTRAL BOGS.....WHAT ABOUT THAT!"

    • @BedboundME
      @BedboundME Год назад +5

      The tories & C membership obsessing over this and hating trans, can afford to heat their homes

    • @Pemmont107
      @Pemmont107 Год назад +1

      Why can't we have both? Why should these things be exclusive?

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Год назад

      It’s Tory leadership race. You don’t have say neither do you have a vote.

    • @betty-boo9821
      @betty-boo9821 Год назад +1

      @@prodigiii712 What's wrong with you.
      The UK is not a totalitarian state people have a right to speak their minds.

  • @ironsideeve2955
    @ironsideeve2955 Год назад +4

    How can a conservative support calling a man a woman?

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +1

      Because she's done more than 2 seconds of thinking.

  • @jzilla1234
    @jzilla1234 Год назад +83

    Penny understands.....
    She just doesn't care. Like a proper true blue tory. Does not give a hoot.

    • @localreviewking134
      @localreviewking134 Год назад +6

      I wonder if she wins in how much she will spend on the wallpaper 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @dexcova7141
      @dexcova7141 Год назад

      Keeping hanging on to those dying, vacuous, Tory tropes, you obviously need something to believe in.

  • @pureplay7071
    @pureplay7071 Год назад +30

    Like when she said the UK didn't have a veto to stop Turkey's accession into the European Union.. We did. She's going back on thing's she said years ago now she wan'ts to be PM, she would do far better just to say I was wrong but like Boris she would rather lie.

  • @paulreynolds7103
    @paulreynolds7103 Год назад +77

    I cannot believe you give time to this junk.... who cares what people identify as... food and fuel prices are a real problem

    • @rohitballal5654
      @rohitballal5654 Год назад

      You aren't a woman so of course it doesn't affect you.

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Год назад

      See my answer above 🏳️‍🌈. Why did you click on this clip?

    • @solentforest
      @solentforest Год назад +1

      @@andrewrobinson2565 what answer?

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 Год назад +3

      Women should care because it’s their rights that are under threat

    • @solentforest
      @solentforest Год назад +3

      @@chesterdonnelly1212 give an example?

  • @markjohnston7869
    @markjohnston7869 Год назад +5

    She is a liar. So a Tory then.

  • @jamesc6039
    @jamesc6039 Год назад +167

    It is so thoroughly depressing that this issue gets the time it does. All the hugely important things a tory PM needs to fix, and this is the breaking issue for some. Pathetic

    • @cathcath1324
      @cathcath1324 Год назад +12

      @JackB I say it too

    • @mikeymc3094
      @mikeymc3094 Год назад +6

      @JackB
      Jack B it’s clowns like u that give these ppl credit If a man wants to call himself a three legged buffalo He can do so Just don’t bother the rest of us with ur problem

    • @Paul-eb4jp
      @Paul-eb4jp Год назад +17

      @@mikeymc3094 It's only the right wing who get wound up about this, leave people alone to get on with life.

    • @davidchamberlain5425
      @davidchamberlain5425 Год назад +1

      If your born a female !you cannot change that👍.you can be trans that's all👍....FACT!

    • @derekharrison1582
      @derekharrison1582 Год назад +7

      Piers Morgan seems to be obsessed with this issue as well.Just can’t stop banging on about it.

  • @LordOfLight
    @LordOfLight Год назад +10

    Whoever they vote for, we'll get a Tory.

    • @marklester1711
      @marklester1711 Год назад

      Thanks for that Captain Obvious!

    • @LordOfLight
      @LordOfLight Год назад

      @@marklester1711 I believe the current term is "whoosh".

  • @tashcow90
    @tashcow90 Год назад +7

    4:39 "Nicola.. Nicola.. Please listen while I try to gaslight you.."

  • @matthewbloom276
    @matthewbloom276 Год назад +91

    These issues only become important when you remain an MP in a populist, English nationalist party that is in a race to the right. Why would you even want to lead a party where your colleagues and competitors see this as a reason to discredit you

    • @danw5760
      @danw5760 Год назад

      you have no understanding of the words that you use, unless you're fundamentally dishonest

    • @celebalert5616
      @celebalert5616 Год назад +1

      What party is that?

    • @tomscott1368
      @tomscott1368 Год назад +3

      @@dannykryan we do and it's in power so enjoy i guess

    • @llengsuch3426
      @llengsuch3426 Год назад

      The question of someone saying "Trans Women Are Women" is important because it is a denial of reality and a demonstration of submission and conformity to Wokery. As an analogy, it's like "2.+2=5" from George Orwell's 1984. It's about denying what you know to be real, in conformity to dogma and ideology.
      Trans women are NOT women. Trans women are male. Anyone who cannot speak the truth, who takes the knee in obeisance to Far-Left authoritarianism, or so-called "Trans Activism", cannot be trusted with the responsibility of government. Voters beware!

    • @kevincoshner310
      @kevincoshner310 Год назад +6

      Matthew. Because people are very concerned about `creeping Woke` in the nation. Even more concerned that those who disagree get `cancelled`. Woke is `jackboot` stuff - if there was `choice` we would not complain!

  • @pault1289
    @pault1289 Год назад +6

    'Naval career' - wasn't she a reservist?

  • @SANDSCORCHER
    @SANDSCORCHER Год назад +3

    As soon as she began her reply with a superfluous “So”, my eyes glazed over and my ears went to sleep.

  • @markjohnston7869
    @markjohnston7869 Год назад +14

    I don't think it will sit well with the military or the veteran community having what they refer to as "a Walt" in charge of the country. A Walt is somebody who lies about or massively exaggerates their military career. Claiming to have done things or been things that they have not. It is also referred to as stolen valour. Mordaunt does this. She claims to be a Captain in the Navy when in reality this is only an honorary rank she wangled when working in the defence ministry. Her Navy career if it can be called that was to advance no further than an "acting" Sub Lieutenant and was singularly unremarkable. If she lies or exaggerates he military credentials do we really want another PM like Boris. Her claims to be a Captain would be on par to Carol Vorderman claiming to actually be a Group Captain in the RAF. Neither are.

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 Год назад +2

      It seems that she lies and embellishes to the point of being delusional.

  • @mauricecraig9531
    @mauricecraig9531 Год назад +45

    She didn't have a hugely distinguished career in the Navy. It was an Honorary Captain position she was awarded on the 30th June 2021 (probably by herself) and she was only on Reserve List 6. She probably was never on a ship or even the ferry to France. She was an Acting sub-lieutenant at a shore establishment in Portsmouth. If she gets to be Prime Minister because the other people are useless, she will be found out in her lies like all the rest of the Conservatives Cabinet who told lies every day to keep Boris Johnson in power

    • @jazzx251
      @jazzx251 Год назад +1

      She is a Captain in Her Majesty's Navy.
      As Prime Minister, she will also be commander of ALL of the armed forces.
      She will be able to take Putin on from more than just her natural habitat, the sea - that which she was clearly born to. Murky depths that yield massive rewards.

    • @dannyfeller7034
      @dannyfeller7034 Год назад

      To be appointed as an honorary cpt in the RN would be quite an appointment to be given.

    • @mauricecraig1070
      @mauricecraig1070 Год назад +4

      Not such an honour if your in The Treasury and involved in the selection process

    • @dannyfeller7034
      @dannyfeller7034 Год назад

      @@mauricecraig1070 you a wee bit jealous?

    • @paulkazjack
      @paulkazjack Год назад

      Still more than what youve achieved.

  • @guantou2520
    @guantou2520 Год назад +4

    Too woke, my vote would go to Kemi

  • @GriefTourist
    @GriefTourist Год назад +9

    Yeah this is a far more important issue than having a vast underclass and an enormous mental health crisis

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад

      This is a mental health crisis
      Young people are mutilating themselves due to gender disforia
      Gender disforia is a mental health condition 🙏

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 Год назад +3

      People pretending to be something they're not, while demanding everyone else plays along, is relevant to that "enormous mental health crisis".

    • @OrionDoesThings
      @OrionDoesThings Год назад +2

      @@apebass2215 we aren't pretending, but yes this does have an impact on the mental health crisis

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 Год назад +1

      @@OrionDoesThings It's all a big game of pretend, you might've fooled yourself but you're not fooling me.

  • @MaxDamageTV
    @MaxDamageTV Год назад +16

    She mentioned having to compete with men in her "naval career"?
    WHAT naval career????? She was made an "honorary captain" (which she herself pushed through as defense sec). Shes probably NEVER even been on naval boat. Lol

    • @ploppysonofploppy6066
      @ploppysonofploppy6066 Год назад +1

      Been in the RNVE since 2010. Like overgrown sea scouts. An obvious publicity stunt, and see how she milks it.
      It'll bite her in the backside.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад +2

      Talk about Stolen Valor
      Disgusting

    • @jimbo_1312
      @jimbo_1312 Год назад +2

      She was like naval reserve... or whatever the navy equivalent of the TA is. So basically she played dress up and jumped on a submarine in Portsmouth Harbour one weekend a month.

  • @n0tflix
    @n0tflix Год назад +46

    She's changed her stance to suit her populist narrative - she has no character and no backbone. She's a career politician and like career politicians, they keep banging on about things like trans issues that virtually nobody in real life is bothered about, except extreme nutters. What are her opinions about the helping the homeless or sorting out pay rises in line with inflation? And why is she more concerned about giving super rich corporations tax breaks when ordinary working people are using food banks?

    • @oracle8589
      @oracle8589 Год назад +4

      She doesn’t ask the questions tho does she?

    • @kevinsmith5649
      @kevinsmith5649 Год назад +1

      Yep she would make a great PM fingers crossed

    • @ty194
      @ty194 Год назад

      Why do you think that people's wages should be the government's concern unless they work in the public sector?

    • @n0tflix
      @n0tflix Год назад +3

      @@ty194 beverage the minimum wage should be enough to live on - the government controls how much the minimum wage should be

    • @ty194
      @ty194 Год назад

      @@n0tflix There should be no minimum wage. Government has no business setting wages and all minimum wages do is price people and small businesses out of the market and makes it harder to compete with big corporations. Making the minimum wage a so called living wage is a fallacy because you will just inflate the economy so it will never be enough to "live on".

  • @WorldOfWeebcraft
    @WorldOfWeebcraft Год назад +30

    Shes a tory of course shes not pro trans rights etc can we talk about actual issues such as people dying from poverty in the uk

    • @tobygrantham7215
      @tobygrantham7215 Год назад +17

      The problem is she rightfully stood in support of trans people in the House of Commons. And is only throwing them under the bus now to improve her chances of being elected by the Tory membership, so depressing.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +9

      Trans rights are a real issue, but I wish the conversation would leave their rights enshrined in law and find some other mythological danger to society.

    • @Adam-th7qt
      @Adam-th7qt Год назад +10

      @@tobygrantham7215 yeah it's very sad. The way she answers these questions indicates she has an understanding of trans issues and common counters against transphobia. She probably did genuinely support trans people, but she's willing to go back on it to appeal to the rabid terf and conservative base that now sees trans people as some existential threat to them.

  • @donrayjay
    @donrayjay Год назад +24

    She does seem to realise that political communication 101 is to state your own position positively, I.e. not to say what your position isn’t. If in doubt, remember to remove the word “not” from the sentence and reword it into a positive statement

    • @surreptitiousscreamer
      @surreptitiousscreamer Год назад

      Or we could stop making a science out of brainwashing people into thinking what you want them to think in order to further your own interests.

  • @killbotone6210
    @killbotone6210 Год назад +5

    It's funny how this non debate is slways framed around Trans Woman and what's a woman. Nobody seems bothered about Trans men or asking what a Man is?

    • @MrRailjunkie
      @MrRailjunkie Год назад +1

      That's because trans men don't work as victims for the right wing culture war so they focus on women.

    • @simplename8072
      @simplename8072 Год назад

      Because transmen are not pushing for their "right" to use the Gents toilet. No need for it. The transman can just temporarily declare/self-identify as a woman then use the Ladies toilet.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +1

      It's because it's a group of ultra conservative women who align themselves with anti-abortion groups kicked up this stink in the first place. They are invested in challenging the legal rights of women and will stop at nothing to attempt to undermine UK law to reach their regressive ends.

  • @johnrussell3961
    @johnrussell3961 Год назад +47

    What I think doesn’t matter. It’s the opinion of elderly Tory members that matter if I want to win.
    And they are stuck in the 1950’s.

    • @johnhollyoak9295
      @johnhollyoak9295 Год назад +6

      I think you mean the 1850’s.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +1

      I love Boomer economics, it's so delusional it would be hilarious if it wasn't so damaging to out nation and future prospects

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Год назад

      You’re stuck in 2016. Trans extremism is a serious issue for conservatives and she will lose this leadership race for being a wacko woke warrior.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +2

      @@prodigiii712 what exactly do you mean by trans extremism?

  • @-eLMango-
    @-eLMango- Год назад +7

    Kemi for PM.

  • @23bit76
    @23bit76 Год назад +4

    The tories culture war will come back to bite them hopefully

  • @terrysmith5168
    @terrysmith5168 Год назад +6

    Notice how she puts the emphasis on herself 🤡 deflecting from the straight forward question 👎🏻

  • @crewie94
    @crewie94 Год назад +41

    Every time she mentions her military background I laugh a little in disgust. Her Dad is the one that served, not this human pestilence.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад +2

      Exactly
      Talk about stolen Valor
      🤡🌎

    • @crewie94
      @crewie94 Год назад +1

      @Laura UK It's not serving on a mil' base. If so I suppose the cleaners are worthy of honorary Captain awards?

    • @robertwilson3866
      @robertwilson3866 Год назад +2

      To be fair she was in the navy. But I agree people should stop mentioning it every 5 minutes. "Mordaunt was a member of the Royal Naval Reserve from 2010 until 2019. From 2010 until 2015, she served as an acting sub-lieutenant, at shore establishment HMS King Alfred on Whale Island, Portsmouth."

  • @HappyAwesomePower
    @HappyAwesomePower Год назад +5

    Why are they all so obsessed with this it’s so embarrassing for them all.

    • @kevincoshner310
      @kevincoshner310 Год назад

      it is of course the media that is obsessed with alternative lifestyles, not `firstly` the politicians.

  • @royalalloy3471
    @royalalloy3471 Год назад +16

    She will agree with whom ever is in front of her... Its the system that must change not individuals.

  • @kennbracey6048
    @kennbracey6048 Год назад +6

    I wouldn't vote for her. Seems to have an excuse lined up for every question.

    • @kennbracey6048
      @kennbracey6048 Год назад

      @Chris Wings It Nope. None of them seem credible but that's who the tory party members have got to choose from. All as bad as each other. Remember the last time they had this chance....and they voted for a serial liar in Boris.

    • @apneiaproductions696
      @apneiaproductions696 Год назад

      She's a politician.

  • @tajs476
    @tajs476 Год назад +32

    We could have meteor rocks hitting the Earth and Godzilla destroying big Ben and Tory voters would still be having the trans debate.

    • @Alex-cm7hr
      @Alex-cm7hr Год назад +8

      Probably because there is rather a lot to debate. Or is giving 12 year olds hormone blockers just something that should be waved through without scrutiny?

    • @raellawrence7116
      @raellawrence7116 Год назад +9

      @@Alex-cm7hr yes, if that's what they need to prevent long term psychological damage. Hormone blockers are not permanent. Puberty is.

    • @EtharealBTB
      @EtharealBTB Год назад +2

      @@Alex-cm7hr Why do you care? If that's thier choice, and thier parents are fine with it, then who are you to say they cant? If that makes them happy, why would you want to stand in the way of that? It makes 0 impact on your life. Put your bible down and mind your own business.

    • @Alex-cm7hr
      @Alex-cm7hr Год назад

      @@EtharealBTB no it's simply not acceptable to use these treatments on anyone under 18. If we had irrefutable proof that men and women have distinct brains and that you can literally be born in the wrong body - then I would perhaps be more open to it. But right now we are a long way from that point.

    • @EtharealBTB
      @EtharealBTB Год назад +2

      @@Alex-cm7hr Why is it not acceptable? So its unaccpetable the day before a person's 18th birthday, but the day after it's fine?
      Is it simply not acceptable because you choose not to accept it? And if so, why?
      Personally like I say, it makes 0 impact on my life, and if it makes that person happier, then why not?

  • @rhysholdaway
    @rhysholdaway Год назад +66

    It's just crazy that people treat this as a serious concern! Work out which party is really being marginalised and threatened and then stand by that group.

    • @PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
      @PaulAnthonyDuttonUk Год назад

      It’s very serious. If her opinion on a fundamental can be so easily subverted for sake of wokeness shows how easily she can be led astray.

    • @rhysholdaway
      @rhysholdaway Год назад

      @@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk I agree. She should have shot down the interviewer. Ask him to define what a woman is. He'll realise pretty soon what a dumb question that is.

    • @solentforest
      @solentforest Год назад +6

      @Nonya Bus transphobe

    • @solentforest
      @solentforest Год назад

      @Nonya Bus you're proud about being terrified of trans people? Ok...

    • @fifiadan
      @fifiadan Год назад +4

      That’s terrible advice

  • @zoemavridi2763
    @zoemavridi2763 Год назад +8

    Why the heck are women’s rights in any way threatened by trans people???

    • @nathanshaw5037
      @nathanshaw5037 Год назад +7

      Because the media says so

    • @jamie306
      @jamie306 Год назад +7

      Same bathrooms, same prisons, same safe spaces, same sport sides, etc, etc. Basically being treated no diff than a biological male/female. No distinction. Statistically, that has given rise to a hole host of pressing issues and the further victimisation of women. Not that I personally have a view on the matter.

    • @Kraken54321
      @Kraken54321 Год назад

      🤦

  • @cathcath1324
    @cathcath1324 Год назад +13

    All channels seem to have an obsession with this. It’s honestly bizarre

    • @Historyfraghead
      @Historyfraghead Год назад +3

      Only if you don't care about women's rights

    • @cathcath1324
      @cathcath1324 Год назад +1

      @@Historyfraghead lol what?

    • @Historyfraghead
      @Historyfraghead Год назад +1

      @Macavity it isn't equality to place vìòlent males in womens prisons

  • @kincaidwolf5184
    @kincaidwolf5184 Год назад +3

    Penny "i pushed through the bill into law that men can become legally women" but this isn't my position but the government position

    • @kincaidwolf5184
      @kincaidwolf5184 Год назад

      @Steph D. What are you on about LOL. You don't know my position on the issue. So instead of generalising with comments like "people like you" how about you get a life.

  • @robertwhyte5078
    @robertwhyte5078 Год назад +4

    This topic again!

  • @realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961
    @realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961 Год назад +14

    Not really interested in this issue but her non answer was very telling

  • @audreymcgready4329
    @audreymcgready4329 Год назад +9

    Bet she voted against feeding the kids.

  • @stevenhoward3358
    @stevenhoward3358 Год назад +22

    Its amazing how principals take a back seat when popular support is paramount

    • @globalist1990
      @globalist1990 Год назад

      That’s what being a public servant entails.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад +1

      Politicians
      Principles
      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

  • @kenhaynes4259
    @kenhaynes4259 Год назад +4

    Blah blah blah... another waste of space who is now only saying what ''she'' thinks you
    want to hear ! She certainly wouldn't get my vote.

  • @dudeatx
    @dudeatx Год назад

    Why does the media think every politician has to pass this test?

  • @TazW73
    @TazW73 Год назад +3

    She’s totally untrustworthy with woman and children’s right’s and safeguarding … she made a complete mess of the situation - Liz truss came in and sorted it out - thankfully.

  • @thechopperharrispunctualta9885
    @thechopperharrispunctualta9885 Год назад +10

    she does not have the required experience to be a PM , it really exposes the lack of quality in the tory party that she will probably win

    • @HCRS95
      @HCRS95 Год назад +1

      What experience do you want her to have? She’s held several cabinet posts over the last 8 years which is more than Keir Starmer’s 0

  • @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632
    @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632 Год назад +2

    If you can change your gender, can you change race? And if not, why not?

  • @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689
    @fromthedumpstertothegrave3689 Год назад +1

    Why is this even a 'debate? Biologically no, in a sociological sense yes.

  • @savetheplanet2982
    @savetheplanet2982 Год назад +4

    The Conservatives have NEVER agreed with self ID. It was put to the general public as a consultation in 2019 which sought to gain feedback from the general public including trans people as to whether the public as a consensus felt that self ID was an acceptable and appropriate way to allow transgender people to transition. The outcome of that consultation was that self ID was NOT appropriate. By this time, Liz Truss was appointed the Equalities Minister so she got the credit for not allowing trans people to self ID whereas it had nothing to do with Liz Truss. It should be credited to Penny Mordaunt. Maybe that is why Tory grassroots who know a bit more about what happened at the time are more inclined to support Penny Mordaunt.

    • @jamie306
      @jamie306 Год назад +2

      If that were truly the case she would’ve said so, but she she didn’t. And that is certainly not what happened. And her views are pretty woke on multiple issues if you do your research. Grassroots succour support for her owing to their utter lack of cognisance of her views on a myriad things.

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Год назад +2

      She supported self ID.

    • @jonnybingham1
      @jonnybingham1 Год назад

      @@prodigiii712 no, she didn’t

    • @prodigiii712
      @prodigiii712 Год назад +1

      @@jonnybingham1 yes she did.

  • @speedyhillski
    @speedyhillski Год назад +3

    You should probably ask why she feels the need to exaggerate her military service

    • @simplename8072
      @simplename8072 Год назад

      Because she's got nothing else. She couldn't point to her work on Brexit, nor on her work with Frost. People have publicly exposed her as incompetent, missing-in-action, lazy and leftie-woke.

  • @eddielap
    @eddielap Год назад +1

    She wants women only spaces. she considers trans women to be women. So nothing to see here.

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 Год назад +2

    Looks like the tories might elect another Liar.

  • @Uduwerage
    @Uduwerage Год назад +10

    A number of LBCs hosts are amongst the most vocal when it comes to peddling populist hatred, and the Tory Party has almost all swallowed this line. PM appeared at one to be different, but when the opportunity arose for potential power she fell into line.

    • @mikeymc3094
      @mikeymc3094 Год назад +1

      Politicians wud. put a price on their own dead mother if they thort it’d get them wot they want Totally without morals scruples or the slightest hint of self respect ✊

  • @Matt-vp6eq
    @Matt-vp6eq Год назад +25

    Such a non-issue in the grand scheme of things.

    • @dawnmoriarty9347
      @dawnmoriarty9347 Год назад +1

      Not to the people enduring prejudice. However I take your point that other issues affect more people

    • @Historyfraghead
      @Historyfraghead Год назад +7

      It is important to women

    • @webdesignerguy
      @webdesignerguy Год назад +1

      @Nonya Bus Yes, men are also allowed to have opinions.

    • @webdesignerguy
      @webdesignerguy Год назад +1

      ​@@Historyfraghead Not according to the polls. According to the latest British Social Attitudes Survey only 17% of British women say they have a problem with trans women using women's public toilets. It's a small minority of mostly men who are against trans rights.

    • @Historyfraghead
      @Historyfraghead Год назад

      @@webdesignerguy The average member of the public doesn't know that the vast majority of these males have zero surgery and are still fully intact. They also don't know that the vast majority of these males are sexually attracted to women. If they did, I'm sure that survey would show a very different result

  • @The_Sisyphean
    @The_Sisyphean Год назад +1

    She’s a WEF stooge.

  • @daveabbott
    @daveabbott Год назад +1

    They used to be called transvestites and dressed up at the weekend.

  • @coppershark1973
    @coppershark1973 Год назад +4

    Can we start asking more pressing questions? Such as, do you believe in CLIMATE CHANGE and what do you propose to do about it?

  • @deanlowdon8381
    @deanlowdon8381 Год назад +4

    Why is this issue constantly discussed!? It makes absolutely no difference to my life what people decide they want to be identified as. I’m more concerned about my rising bills, the increasing cost to fill my car, the ever growing NHS waiting lists.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад

      This is the thing though isn't it? The right seem intent on finding certain people in society to pin problems on. The kind of people who find calling people by the correct pronoun offensive are probably not the right people to appeal to in the first place.

    • @deanlowdon8381
      @deanlowdon8381 Год назад +1

      @@assses-3216 Yeah, it’s always been the same. Sadly it seems to be a pretty effective way of avoiding all the real issues the Tories continually fail to deal with.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад

      @@deanlowdon8381 I agree, 12 years in government, 3 leaders have resigned and their promises about responsible economic management haven't come to pass. They have stagnated the economy and crippled public services. That is their legacy. A new face isn't going to change their moral void which is conservative ideology. And so, I can kind of see why they may need to distract us ;)

    • @deanlowdon8381
      @deanlowdon8381 Год назад +1

      @@assses-3216 Funny how none of this Tory party seem to think anything is their fault despite being in power for 12 years…

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад +1

      @@deanlowdon8381 Atleast if they weren't in office this kind of disastrous leadership musical chairs would be a hilarious. It's just sad people who believe so religiously in personal responsibility, can't take any.

  • @glentruim1
    @glentruim1 6 месяцев назад

    If ever the U.K. needed an outstanding person to lead this is the person. A lady of outstanding gifts.

  • @mariewalker4010
    @mariewalker4010 Год назад +1

    She just doesn't convince me

  • @Blonde_Somnambulist
    @Blonde_Somnambulist Год назад +6

    Here we are on the brink of war, social and economic collapse, and yet diversity issues are a preoccupation. What a mess we are in .

    • @alistairpayne5357
      @alistairpayne5357 Год назад +2

      It's called propaganda lol been seeing lots of that on the telly , just misdirection for the sheep who don't know what's coming

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад

      Food shortages😔

  • @giabe8470
    @giabe8470 Год назад +4

    Nicola ....get a life and stop hating!

  • @sueskinner1459
    @sueskinner1459 Год назад +1

    I wish I could have asked her why she associates with Bill Gates and why she adheres to the WEF ideology ?!?!

  • @lukemullan636
    @lukemullan636 Год назад +1

    trans rights are human rights. no debates, no ifs no buts.

  • @hannahtaybooks
    @hannahtaybooks Год назад +9

    Kemi for PM all the way.

    • @paulbarrett22
      @paulbarrett22 Год назад

      shes head and shoulders above the rest of these losers

    • @Historyfraghead
      @Historyfraghead Год назад +3

      She's a breath of fresh air. And seems to care about free speech. I hope she wins

    • @hannahtaybooks
      @hannahtaybooks Год назад +2

      @@Historyfraghead Me too.

  • @scottmeehan2422
    @scottmeehan2422 Год назад +5

    she been caught out and is now trying to backout to make her seem more right wing.

  • @nokking1108
    @nokking1108 Год назад +2

    The face in front, make little difference. The donors, and the corporations, are the ones running the country.

    • @daveoliver5838
      @daveoliver5838 Год назад

      Who is the chosen one? Blonde Liz Truss, BBC’s favourite boy Sunak or well connected Tom Tugendhat ?

  • @BedboundME
    @BedboundME Год назад

    Can’t deal with people who just want to believe something else

  • @sue5730
    @sue5730 Год назад +3

    Did she say “if I had a vasectomy, I’d still be a woman? 😜

  • @harpsailorharp6716gg
    @harpsailorharp6716gg Год назад +3

    Wish politicians would just talk about the decaying UK and its issues of poverty and cost of living .....

    • @marklester1711
      @marklester1711 Год назад

      Have you ANY evidence she wanted to talk about this, she was asked the question and answered it, can you imagine the flak she would have attracted if she’d refused to answer the question?

  • @stephaniewhite9526
    @stephaniewhite9526 26 дней назад

    I am fully transitioned. I represent a mere 0.5% of the population just trying to quietly live in peace stealth and acceptance. Cant people just leave us alone.

  • @themsmloveswar3985
    @themsmloveswar3985 Год назад

    Priorities in a country that is nominally in the first world, but has increasing levels of deprivation.

  • @justsayen2024
    @justsayen2024 Год назад +3

    Ahh the Tories once again have they're finger on the pulse of what's important to the everyday Joe 🙄

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 Год назад

      You think the everyday Jane wants Joe in her changing room and sports?

  • @steveb951
    @steveb951 Год назад +4

    How is defining a woman as a woman or woman as a man or a man as a lizard going to pay the heating bill. This isn’t helpful.

  • @umarshirazi2620
    @umarshirazi2620 Год назад +1

    Ask about why there are food banks and people who work have to get universal credit to survive. Also why haven’t wages increased so people who are working get a living wage

  • @benneden2580
    @benneden2580 Год назад

    Why does the caller care about this?

  • @derekarnold3665
    @derekarnold3665 Год назад +4

    Exactly how people are trans in the UK? I would have thought there were more pressing issues to resolve.

  • @tomsmyth4836
    @tomsmyth4836 Год назад +4

    How was she not taken up on her ridiculous claim that people can be reissued a birth certificate with a different gender? Have we totally lost thee plot?

  • @dwrdaveuk
    @dwrdaveuk Год назад +1

    She's dodging here. Long dragged out answers which don't sound clear.

    • @simplename8072
      @simplename8072 Год назад

      She has no principles, and no ideas of her own. Hence the dodging...

  • @davidpearn2484
    @davidpearn2484 Год назад

    Mordaunt loves the song lola by the kinks.

  • @sardav160479
    @sardav160479 Год назад +21

    Being trans in the UK i have never felt more afraid or feel so isolated

    • @raellawrence7116
      @raellawrence7116 Год назад +14

      You still have allies

    • @jacktheripper5661
      @jacktheripper5661 Год назад

      Well you made your bed now lay in it

    • @nightride1985
      @nightride1985 Год назад +8

      Most people don't care about this issue and know that Trans people are no different than anyone else - it's all hot air to distract from their incompetence and lack of caring for anyone but their own or anything but their own agenda. Don't be afraid of these bullies!

    • @Blonde_Somnambulist
      @Blonde_Somnambulist Год назад

      I'd be more afraid of the quality of contenders , seems they are all WEF globalist apprentices , now THATS something to be scared of .

    • @sardav160479
      @sardav160479 Год назад +3

      @@raellawrence7116 thank you

  • @msrainbowbrite
    @msrainbowbrite Год назад +3

    she just contradicted herself. she compared a person going thru a hysterectomy as the same as a man getting new tidbits and then said they aren't identical ... make ya mind up

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад

      No, what she said was women exist in many forms and applying a hierarchy of womanhood based on the ability to bare a child is a very silly and artificial distinction.

  • @russellwarwick
    @russellwarwick Год назад +1

    I think she seems to be the only one trying to end this silly debate. Can we just move on and start focusing on bigger things.

  • @nooshoff
    @nooshoff Год назад +1

    So many other more important things to talk about.

  • @stephenwhiteley9744
    @stephenwhiteley9744 Год назад +8

    She's a fantastic candidate for Labour Leader

  • @tonymcfeisty2478
    @tonymcfeisty2478 Год назад +11

    I'd love Penny to elaborate further on her no doubt long and distinguished "Naval" Career. or maybe she's referring to a career working with belly buttons

    • @Cyderpunk
      @Cyderpunk Год назад +1

      One commentator said she had the skills to captain a ship. Utter BS.

  • @psyskeptic9979
    @psyskeptic9979 Год назад

    She is truely a calculating politician. Awful.

  • @atverde
    @atverde Год назад +2

    "If I had a vasectomy I would still be a woman" 🤔🤔🤔

    • @deejakes1655
      @deejakes1655 Год назад

      😂 I know right...

    • @arzemagic
      @arzemagic Год назад

      Mastectomy

    • @atverde
      @atverde Год назад

      @@arzemagic nope

    • @arzemagic
      @arzemagic Год назад

      @@atverde Listen to it again carefully 2 mins in

    • @atverde
      @atverde Год назад

      @@arzemagic I did listen about 3 times. I hear vasectomy every time.

  • @stephaniewhite9526
    @stephaniewhite9526 Год назад +11

    Can't people stop kicking the trans community around like footballs. I had the gender operation 6 years ago, what I am concerned about is that this is crossing over from unacceptance, to now ridicule, and bordering to hate. Any genuine trans person just tries to blend in and live their life in harmony and peace.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад +5

      Then talk to the TRA
      & Let's start respecting Everyone's needs🕊️

    • @davidz3879
      @davidz3879 Год назад +3

      How about women's sports? Lia Thomas has a massive unfair advantage.

    • @jamie306
      @jamie306 Год назад +2

      Cool. Live in peace as a trans person, not as a full fledged member equal to the biologically born of the gender transitioned to.

    • @assses-3216
      @assses-3216 Год назад

      @@jamie306 it absolutely makes no difference to you which they do. And they have every right to live with the same freedoms and protections afforded to all women recognised under UK law. Making an exception is not equality and frankly, ideaologies which make exceptions very rarely stop making them. Which btw is exactly what the fring group of ultra-conservative 'feminists' who kicked up this stink want. They align themselves with groups who want to infringe on women's rights by preventing their access to abortions.
      Read up on that. Because frankly, the only way of ensuring women's rights is by being inclusive of trans people.

  • @allenrenfro8837
    @allenrenfro8837 Год назад +8

    doesn't the UK have supply chain issues, utility cost issues, brexit issues, out of control inflation? I don't see how people could be upset over transgender people when the UK has so many other issues that truly affect all the citizens of the country

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 Год назад +5

      The issue is not trans people, the issue is womens rights which affects half of the population

    • @ambientjohnny
      @ambientjohnny Год назад

      @@chesterdonnelly1212 Exactly! Trans activists are so incredibly self-centered.

  • @Goldstone93
    @Goldstone93 Год назад +1

    I don’t trust her

  • @norgerepairs8687
    @norgerepairs8687 Год назад +2

    Self ID. really ????

  • @mindslaw4961
    @mindslaw4961 Год назад +5

    Waah, waah, my rights are infringed by what other people's birth certificates say, waaah

  • @florencealvarez8182
    @florencealvarez8182 Год назад +5

    I watched 60 Minutes report on a female student in Harvard University who went through surgery to become a man. She was in the Varsity swim team and transitioned to the male division. The swim coach had an open door policy to anyone who wanted to talk about this but surprisingly, it was not an issue for the other swimmers. The only thing is being born a woman, he is not as strong as a man and his performance suffered.
    The US Supreme Court has overthrown Roe vs. Wade and they will be after artificail contraception, the LGBTQ community and inter-racial marraige though these will only be applied at the state level. We are hoping for a majority in the House of Representatives and the Congress to turn the tide in the next election.

    • @lovesees4320
      @lovesees4320 Год назад

      What with the Democrats🙊🙈🙉
      Since Clinton they have promised to secure this right for women
      & Every time they left it. So they can get you to vote again against the evil republicans
      Your being conned, over & over again
      Vote third party to apply pressure🙏

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 Год назад

      Of course male swimmers aren't going to have an issue with competing against a woman. It's the female swimmers who have an issue competing against a man.

    • @kevincoshner310
      @kevincoshner310 Год назад

      Florence, the concern is NOT a woman becoming a man, then taking part in professional sports - it is man becoming a women and bringing testosterone advantage that makes it an unlevel playing field in sport.

    • @apebass2215
      @apebass2215 Год назад

      @@kevincoshner310 women can't become men, and men can't become women. If they could, there would be no advantage or disadvantage in either direction.

    • @kevincoshner310
      @kevincoshner310 Год назад

      @@apebass2215 Please explain then why some sports are reportedly not allowing trans people to take part in certain professional disciplines.

  • @jeezy8360
    @jeezy8360 Год назад +1

    Who is she. Who is she?

  • @shaunohagan1491
    @shaunohagan1491 Год назад +1

    If being born Trans is a medical issue, why isn't there research being done to find out why babies are born in the wrong bodies? maybe find ways to stop that happening, surely being born in the right body at birth is a goal to strive for instead of all these horrible surgeries?