Thornless Roses for Your Garden

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  • @laurelsayer7557
    @laurelsayer7557 Год назад +5

    It's wonderful to hear from someone who is so passionate and knowledgeable about roses. So look forward to your videos, whatever subject you tackle.

  • @FeiyLo
    @FeiyLo Год назад +8

    The only one rose literally prickle free I grow is Renae bred by Ralph Moore. It's a climbing floribunda and doesn't have any single prickle from crown to tips. Healthy, vigorous, and fragrant. Highly recommended.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +2

      Thanks for sharing your recommendation!

    • @Craig_Humphries
      @Craig_Humphries Год назад +3

      Thanks for that recommendation! I've never heard of it before, but it looks great.

    • @lisbetsoda4874
      @lisbetsoda4874 Год назад

      What colour are the roses?

    • @Crazyaboutpaper1
      @Crazyaboutpaper1 Год назад

      Oh I love Renae. Sadly she got RRD. I had to remove but I will grow her again. Such a charming one and the Fragrance is strong.

    • @FeiyLo
      @FeiyLo Год назад

      @@Crazyaboutpaper1 Sorry to hear that. Hope you can enjoy it in all its glory again.

  • @josxxiv
    @josxxiv Год назад +14

    Where I live, I have some trouble with wildlife (two legged and four legged). Can you do a video on the toughest, thorniest, meanest roses? That would not only be fun, but also extremely helpful

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +8

      Thanks. I'll put it on the list. Spoilers: rugosa roses!

    • @MaryBennett
      @MaryBennett Год назад +2

      If you are in a warm climate, you want Mermaid, AKA Prison Bars. For colder zones, look at some of the larger Rugosas.

    • @lilacsrosesinpoland
      @lilacsrosesinpoland Год назад +2

      Rose Maigold is a monster😉

    • @gwbuilder5779
      @gwbuilder5779 Год назад +5

      @josxxiv
      Mr. Lincoln is a nasty thorny long stem rose with beautiful red flowers. Very long sturdy stalks and basically nowhere on the plant that doesn't have plenty of thorns.
      I placed them in specific locations to deter a problem neighbor and they are quite effective.😉🤙

    • @donnamack6797
      @donnamack6797 Год назад

      Everything is relative. But I had a client with the hybrid musk Darlow's Enigma and I dreaded pruning it because it was so horribly thorny. Tall too! Its a beauty, scented and very recurrent, but not for my yard!!

  • @user-ni8nx7sy2k
    @user-ni8nx7sy2k Год назад +6

    Thank you for the recommendations and tips. I’m learning so much from your videos. “Queen Of Sweden” of DA rose is nearly thornless. Two French roses are almost thornless, which are “Dominique Massad” and “Ines Sastre”. Some roses recently bred in Japan and China are also nearly thornless.They are well suitable for growing in containers.

  • @tessmonro7102
    @tessmonro7102 Год назад +1

    A thornless rose I love is Mutabilis, a Chinese rose without a scent but smothered in flowers from early spring to early autumn. Hardy and easy to look after. Needs no special pruning and you can take to it with a pair of clippers. I had a whole hedge of them in my last home😍

  • @camicri4263
    @camicri4263 Год назад +3

    Beautiful roses, thank you for the list 🌹❤️

  • @donnamack6797
    @donnamack6797 Год назад +5

    Hey Jason! Great presentation. I do have a couple of suggestions. Zephirine Drouhin (18568) has two sports, and I grow it next to its sister, Kathleen Harrop. (1909). Harrop is a softer pink, and although people claim it's less vigorous, I find that it is in fact much larger, blooms younger and more repeatedly, and it is less prone to blackspot. I must thank Pat Henry of Roses Unlimited. I called to order Zeph and she did not have it in stock so she suggested Kathleen. I actually prefer it. Truly worth tracking down. There is a third paler sport, Marthe, from 1912. Almost impossible to find.
    Another rose that is close to thornless is Marie Pavie.
    In terms of Souvenir, its serious drawback is balling in dampness. Several times people have approached me to ask about a rose in their garden that balls, and I ask if it is Souvenir, and they think I'm a genius because I identified their rose. I tell them that they might try its sports Souvenir de St. Anne or Konpresson Victoria, which are less double. But less spectacular.
    I love growing roses and their sports. If you love one, you will probably love the other.
    Your reference to Iceberg made me laugh. I was trying to grow two of them, one each on the side of Madame Hardy, but I kept losing them. In fact, I lost six, because I kept trying. Amusingly enough, Peter Schneider (Combined Rose List and Right Rose, Right Place) can't grow it either. And absurdly, it made me feel better.
    One rose you mention that is on my gotta have it list is Ghislaine. I understand that it grow well in semi-shade, so once I put in the roses I have on order for this year (Dinky, Pearl Drift, Sidonie, Urdu, and more Bliss Parfuma) amongst others. I will tuck it into a semi-shaded site on my yard. Too beautiful to live without!!!!

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      Thanks Donna. After I gave up on Zeph I just didn't bother with Kathleen - but really good to know you see a difference in performance.

    • @robertcroft8241
      @robertcroft8241 Год назад

      I grow the Zephirine D here in North England, it roots easily in my clay soil.

    • @peterhaymaker7562
      @peterhaymaker7562 Год назад

      I have a Climbing Iceberg of my own and look after another. They aren't the easiest of roses to deal with; fickle. They don't like to be pruned for the first two or three years. Ghislaine de Feligonde is a must. I have two Blush Noisettes that are thornless too. Wouldn't be without them. Plenty of others too. Good luck. P.

    • @robertcroft8241
      @robertcroft8241 Год назад

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm Jason, It really does seem to be important where you live and the climate and soil you have. Some of the plants your readers have problems growing root here like weeds. Only 40 miles away (East England Coast) , lime loving plants which thrive and self seed. die when I bring them home to my West England clay garden. (I grow them in pots with limestone chips!)

    • @donnamack6797
      @donnamack6797 Год назад

      @@peterhaymaker7562 I get it - Iceberg is gorgeous. But some roses are far worse. I got Jacquelyn Dupre by Harkness. What a beautiful rose. He noted that it "resents" pruning. You bet! After the first year I pruned off only the dead growth, and the sucker died. Whereas Climbing Gruss an Aachen is tough. I think that's probably as close as I can get to a Climbing Iceberg.

  • @kyliemilosh5235
    @kyliemilosh5235 Год назад +1

    I am growing Crepuscule over a shed. It has clusters of small apricot flowers throughout the season and is almost completely prickle free. Very vigorous and disease free as well.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      Thanks Kylie

    • @Crazyaboutpaper1
      @Crazyaboutpaper1 Год назад

      I tried Crepuscule in Texas. Black spot ruined her

    • @kyliemilosh5235
      @kyliemilosh5235 Год назад

      @@Crazyaboutpaper1 interesting 🤔. I’m in Sydney (Australia) and haven’t had any trouble with black spot on mine, although I do with other roses.

  • @Shuttlefield
    @Shuttlefield Год назад +1

    Great selection Jason - some good additions for me there - and as you say always goos for those arches which we always seems to buy too narrow! I grow Kathleen Harrop - a good pale pink sport of Zepherine and I also grow Morletii as a stong grower from the Boursault roses.

  • @Craig_Humphries
    @Craig_Humphries Год назад +2

    The Mortimer Sackler is a virtually thornless climbing rose from David Austin. It flowers in flushes throughout the season and is a very disease resistant plant. Although it is OK in Semi-shade, it blooms much better with full sun. I also like the fact that it has attractive reddish stems through the winter. The James Gallway (also David Austin) is an alternative. It has a few more thorns, has a 'fuller' flower and is extremely healthy. However, I find it harder to train over small archways, because it flowers on long vertical shoots that can't sustain the weight of the flowers without extra support.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      Thanks Craig

    • @Craig_Humphries
      @Craig_Humphries Год назад

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you for posting this video. :-)

    • @lindsaymason6979
      @lindsaymason6979 Год назад

      You may already know this, but for others looking to find Mortimer Sackler, it was renamed to Mary Delaney. I hope to add it to my collection some day. It's very unique looking.

    • @Craig_Humphries
      @Craig_Humphries Год назад

      @Lindsay Mason Thanks so much for mentioning that. I was just on the David Austin website and couldn't find it any more. I didn't know that they had changed the name.

    • @donnamack6797
      @donnamack6797 Год назад

      Mortimer Sackler's wife won the naming rights. I am puzzled about how Austin roses can rename a rose for which some one bid for and won naming rights. Is there something about this story that I don't understand?

  • @nwetyinwin3788
    @nwetyinwin3788 Год назад

    Thanks Jason! I have Molineux in my garden but still very young! Haven’t seen any bloom as yet! How nice if it comes out without thorns!

  • @Justandfair2392
    @Justandfair2392 Год назад

    The most thornless rose. I own is jefferson or softee. Beautiful cream repeat and abundant bloomer. Never seen a single thorn on it. Easy to care for. I am in the tropics, mauritius and it is my best performer.

  • @sivanagarajah913
    @sivanagarajah913 Год назад +1

    Great video Jason! I happen to have planted a Lutea rose below my apple tree this season. Hoping it will ramble all over it 🤞

  • @Espressoqueen9894
    @Espressoqueen9894 4 месяца назад

    ❤ im first time growing anything and this is very helpful thank you sir 🦋

  • @bluesky7226
    @bluesky7226 Год назад

    Love John Davis! Another I grow that has minimal thorns is David Austin's Fair Bianca. Have had her for years, but I don't see her in the David Austin catalogs anymore. Beautiful fragrance.

  • @susandion4405
    @susandion4405 Год назад +1

    Raspberry Cream Twirl and Peggy Martin. Both climbers. Also, you look wonderful! You're going to have to change your icon picture😂😊. Thanks for the great video!

  • @sonokokanai5733
    @sonokokanai5733 4 месяца назад

    Thank you so much! Thanks to you, I decided to buy souvenir de la malmaison and not zephirine drouhin. I’ve been trying to figure out string fragrant thornless repeating healthy climbers for at least 3 years.

  • @gracecockburn9538
    @gracecockburn9538 Год назад +1

    Three David Austen Rose's which are relatively thornless: Brother Cadfael (pink) Roald Dahl (apricot yellow) and the cool pink climber James Galway.

  • @gwbuilder5779
    @gwbuilder5779 Год назад

    You are so right Jason about the selection of roses for your growing space.
    While the prickless/thornless varieties are beautiful and quite inviting, it is important to know whether a particular selection will be appropriate for the growing space.
    Like you I have a bit of black spot and some new pests that I didn't have at the lower elevation, but I was already expecting to see a lot of differences due to such a dramatic change of environment.
    I was quite surprised when my newest addition, the Lavender Angel Face was the first to bud and open.
    I will definitely be experimenting with cuttings sometime this year.
    Funny how the roses are the first plants to actually be planted in the ground here on the new property.🤙

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      I have to say I procrastinated on this video because (for me) thornless isn't all that serious a consideration. There are some wonderful picks within the group to be sure, but I couldn't limit myself to just these.

    • @gwbuilder5779
      @gwbuilder5779 Год назад

      @@FraserValleyRoseFarm
      Exactly.
      There are so many options these days.
      I think the most important consideration is whether they will be healthy in a particular space.

  • @wordvendor1
    @wordvendor1 Год назад

    My Simplicity roses by Jackson & Perkins were thornless, if I remember right. They were tall workhorses! Soooo beautiful!

  • @pakistanpakistani7869
    @pakistanpakistani7869 Год назад

    Thank you for your video. I have rambler veilchenblau and Paul Neyron never noticed any thorns on these 2 either. Thank you

  • @scented-leafpelargonium3366
    @scented-leafpelargonium3366 Год назад +1

    "Some people complain because God puts thorns on roses, while others praise God for putting roses among the thorns..." 🌹🌹🌹

  • @barbarafarthing9786
    @barbarafarthing9786 Год назад

    Always something of interest and new. Love your videos. Thank you.

  • @airgunner0335
    @airgunner0335 Год назад

    Thank you for your video I love roses and I'm trying to propagate them when they are in the semi hardwood state. Looking forward to your next video

  • @tracytracyWM
    @tracytracyWM Год назад

    I put a Cecile Brunner in my raised bed to climb up my arbor. Picked it so I wouldn't get snagged harvesting my vegetables. Can't wait for the first blooms 😅

  • @tamrahawkes3170
    @tamrahawkes3170 Год назад

    I really appreciate when you add zones, sadly I’m zone 3, but I push the boundaries lol

  • @MyFocusVaries
    @MyFocusVaries Год назад

    Thanks for yet another useful summary

  • @christianetraub6805
    @christianetraub6805 Год назад

    Thank you for this list. I would add ‘Mrs Dudley Cross’, a beautiful tea rose, light yellow pink, and banksiae alba plena, which is even more vigorous than the yellow. I respectfully disagree with ‘Cecile Bruner’, which ‘got’ me quite a few times when I was attempting to prevent it from swallowing up my neighbors’ house.

  • @Sharonmarieb
    @Sharonmarieb Год назад

    Thank U for sharing!! I found more roses for zone 4!!😁

  • @judymckerrow6720
    @judymckerrow6720 Год назад

    Thank you Jason. 🌷💚🙃

  • @priscillaxiaolinli
    @priscillaxiaolinli Год назад

    Thérèse Bugnet, a hybrid rugosa rose, is mostly thornless except for the lower part of the branches (.5 ft, close to the root). It’s super vigorous, floriferous and fragrant. It’s a beast of of shrub though, growing from a 1 gallon plant to a 5ft shrub in 3 months.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      Thanks Priscilla. Yes, lol - those lower stems are scary looking, but nice and smooth on upper stems

  • @i_nvade8098
    @i_nvade8098 Год назад

    Beautiful

  • @user-be5xr9zc6p
    @user-be5xr9zc6p 5 месяцев назад

    Ohhhh .. in this case .. you want to see Rosa Omar Qayyam …just beginning to sprout as spring approaches .. chockablock with deadly thorns .. full of it.. it make me think .. when seeds were first planted when they arrived from Iran & they sprouted .. then the thorny stems.. what did they think of it?.. but flowers rewarded them nicely luckily for them

  • @bonniet5613
    @bonniet5613 11 месяцев назад

    Renae is a lovely thornless, climbing rose. I don't think it does well in black spot areas, but it excels in Southern California.

  • @garyolsen6299
    @garyolsen6299 Год назад

    Great post. Tks.

  • @peterhaymaker7562
    @peterhaymaker7562 Год назад

    Jason, Thanks for the video. I'm in U.K., not Canada, and wonder how you haven't mentioned Mme Alfred Carriere. I have two that are basically thornless, are perpetual bloomers and have a very strong scent. I have quite a few others too including Blush Noisette which is a thornless and perpetual flowering rose wih a mild scent. I have others that you have mentioned too. I guess you can't mention all thornless roses because that would take more time. Looking forward to more videos. Thanks. P.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      Thanks Peter. You're right on: I just picked an assortment, and Madame Alfred was just on the edges of my mind!

  • @Sanips
    @Sanips Год назад +1

    I'll add Marie Pavié, Rosa glauca and Louis Bugnet

  • @lukerobson4962
    @lukerobson4962 Год назад

    Great video. I might try some of those out

  • @teslaandhumanity7383
    @teslaandhumanity7383 11 месяцев назад

    UK weather is very similar to one other country and that is New Zealand 🇳🇿.

  • @cheriedodd9358
    @cheriedodd9358 Год назад

    Interested to see the New Zealand rose, as that's where I live. We don't have one here named that, however I'm guessing it could be the Aotearoa rose? That's the maori name for New Zealand. I have one in my garden. The smell is gorgeous, especially in the evening ❤

  • @sjwestmo
    @sjwestmo Год назад +1

    Where is everyone buying their roses in the US? Ive ordered D Austin before but not sure where to order to get these great recommendations

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      Have a look at Heirloom Roses, Rogue Valley, High Country, Angel Gardens & plenty of other specialist mail-order nurseries in the US

  • @JP-zn9dw
    @JP-zn9dw Год назад

    I have an antique rose that was mislabeled. After watching your videos I think it is an alba - very few thorns, fragrant, blooms once, zero diseases, easy to root from cuttings. Question: I put many cuttings in same area of garden so they are growing close together - should each cutting be treated as a single rose or grouped to have a bigger impact and appear as one rose? Thank you.

  • @cosmos5623
    @cosmos5623 Год назад

    Thanks Jason,
    This is a video I have been waiting for. How is it that the same variety can come in shrub or climbing form. Is it the rootstock? Greetings from Austria.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      Genetic mutations (sports) that have been preserved by stem cuttings.

  • @Sami-Nasr
    @Sami-Nasr Год назад

    Jason, If possible please make a video about easy to grow roses, I mean disease resistant and vigorous roses, I don't spray and I don't think I will

  • @benjaminj283
    @benjaminj283 2 месяца назад

    What about all of the Smooth Touch series of thornless roses(Smooth prince, Smooth Velvet, Smooth Serenity etc)? Are they not available there at all? We get them here in Australia. I have Smooth velvet which is a climber and 100% thornless

  • @Justandfair2392
    @Justandfair2392 Год назад

    Jefferson or softee is completely thornless. I have it. 😊

  • @HurairaHerbals
    @HurairaHerbals Год назад

    I can't seem to find sophie's perpetual for sale anywhere in the US. Does anyone know where I can find it?

  • @Meskarune
    @Meskarune Год назад

    I have a thornless raspberry and a raspberry with thorns. My thornless plant is less vigorous, the bugs seem to flock to it over plants with thorns and over all I'd rather just deal with thorns haha.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      You bet. On the other hand my thornless blackberry outperforms it's armed cousins in every way, so I'm happy to go either way

  • @MR-lq7ss
    @MR-lq7ss Год назад

    hands free!

  • @djmoulton1558
    @djmoulton1558 Год назад

    When you give a growing zone, do you mean Canadian zones or USDA zones? e.g. AgCan zone 6B = USDA zone 5B. Thx.

  • @watsok
    @watsok Год назад

    Great info as always. My problem is that I live in the US. Can you share any growers around TN that sell off patent roses you recommend?

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      Hi Kenneth - you've got loads of great options in the US. Rogue Valley, Heirloom, High Country, Angel Gardens, A Reverence for Roses. Probably quite a few others too that I'm less familiar with.

  • @debbiewilson6527
    @debbiewilson6527 Год назад

    Hi Jason, what damask rose can I buy in the u.s. for the distilling rose water.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      The original perfume Damask is often sold under the name 'Kazanlik'

  • @sapeerawgillum8836
    @sapeerawgillum8836 Год назад

    Has anyone tried growing a Floratina rose bush

  • @eileendelgrosso8481
    @eileendelgrosso8481 Год назад

    So I got thornless from burgess lots of thorns but I think I’m doing something wrong out of 3 2 of them are just ok , and one that gorgeous last year looks awful right now help

  • @gladtidings4all
    @gladtidings4all Год назад

    I love thornless roses do they come in bush style?

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      Approximately the first 10 roses featured in the video are shrub style with the rest being climbers and ramblers.

  • @richbishop7896
    @richbishop7896 Год назад

    What climbing rose would you suggest for my zone 5b zone that is disease resistant, hardy and around 10ft. I don't care about the prickles. I love the David Austin roses.

  • @lorindav5549
    @lorindav5549 Год назад

    Does lack of thorns make it easier for the plants to be eaten by say deer or rabbits? Also, it there a best way to keep Japanese Beetles from eating roses? They are the only thing keeping me from growing roses here.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      I've definitely heard about some success with the tough, thorny rugosa roses in keeping deer at bay.

  • @ericsmith8129
    @ericsmith8129 Год назад

    I think thornlessness would take away from the aesthetics that make a rose a rose. I didn’t know they were a thing.

    • @MyFocusVaries
      @MyFocusVaries Год назад

      It was a key feature I was looking for in a rose for a narrow gate. I didn't want people scratching themselves as they passed through. But we couldn't find one in the colour we wanted, and get one that still had scent. Instead we planted a clematis on the gate arch and planted a rose nearby

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      They're not a priority for me in my garden - I just couldn't limit myself down when I'm looking for more important features (to me) like fragrance and color.

  • @FireflyOnTheMoon
    @FireflyOnTheMoon Год назад +1

    best at custom playback speed at 0.85

    • @lenkazlenka1695
      @lenkazlenka1695 Год назад +1

      Yes it felt that Jason talked fast today, had to check to be sure I didn’t use 1.25 speed

  • @mina.c9016
    @mina.c9016 Год назад

    I'm new to your channel and seen you have a website do you ship to upstate new york? I would love some of your plants you offer

  • @danowen9142
    @danowen9142 Год назад

    Mr Smoothy

  • @drewburton8129
    @drewburton8129 Год назад

    Do you carry yellow peace roses?

  • @dwoodbury
    @dwoodbury Год назад

    Madame Alfred Carriere has very few thorns.

  • @EverydayKindaGuy
    @EverydayKindaGuy 5 месяцев назад

    Now do a video on murder roses. 😅

  • @shanlynwebb
    @shanlynwebb Год назад +1

    Part of the beauty of a Rose is it’s thorns.

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад +1

      I definitely don't mind the prickles myself (except at pruning time, but I'm quick to forget when I'm choosing new varieties for the garden)

    • @maryr7800
      @maryr7800 Год назад +2

      Not to me, I'd much rather have a rose with few or no thorns. My thin, aged skin doesn't appreciate scratches.

  • @brebre8031
    @brebre8031 Год назад

    Without the thorns, only makes the rose look like an ordinary flower tbh

    • @FraserValleyRoseFarm
      @FraserValleyRoseFarm  Год назад

      I definitely don't mind the thorns myself - I hardly think of them at all except at pruning time!