If a brother leaves your motorcycle club to join another does he stop being a brother? MC discussion
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2022
- My organization recently lost a good prospect. He left because it wasn't a fit for him, and ironically he had decided he wanted to pursue more of an Motorcycle Club lifestyle. Let's talk about how that went down, what protocol would apply in the MC world, and how he still is and always will be my brother and friend.
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I'm an old solo rider livin' wayyyy out here on the edge with the coyotes and big cats. That said...and in my opinion, when I throw a guy a wave & he throws one back...we show respect. If your friend is a better fit with another MC, and everyone is good with it, it makes the world one step closer to getting better. We need all the friends we can keep. Kudos
The best biker/ miss USA speech ever! Calm down, just kidding 🤣
@@nickwood1062 "And World Peace". 😁
Fully agree. Have friends that are solo or LW, others on clubs, that I rode with for decades. A Brother or Sister is that, in my experience, regarless.of club.
You can call a friend at 0300 for bail, and they will find a way.
A Brother, you can't, because he's sitting in holding with you, asking what the plan for next weekend is. He is there if you wear the same patch or not.
Amen 🙏🏻
The fact he made a decision and voiced it at the moment he felt it was time to go shows his character, and its respectable 100%. I've had plenty of brothers shift to another club and yes they are still in my family, and we're still close as hell. Cool video man.
Wow, thank you for the shout out. Much respect for that. Love your content as well.
For me it’s all about how he departed. If you depart one organization on bad terms, that speaks for itself. I have friends ( brothers) that ride with other organizations, other than the one I ride with. None of these are 1% clubs. All are organizations that serve a purpose! Just cuz the rags you have don’t match, don’t mean you can’t get along with others.
Respect…
Stay safe out there…
I had a great friend who was apart of your organization that shall not be named lol. That’s when I actually first heard of it, and was damn proud of him for going that way. He was part of the organization out in Texas and he loved every minute of it, he died a couple years back of cancer but I thank him for all he did and I thank you for what y’all do. God bless , be safe and keep the shiny side up.
Mr. Monk, you're a class act. Unless someone does something completely stupid or that bringing embarrassment or discredit to the organization, he should not be disowned for leaving, and a class buddy would not abandon him. And to go the step further to make an introduction pitch for him is a class thing to do too. Good video, good job!
Thank You PM!. I started riding some 48 yrs ago. I rode for a bunch of yrs. I sold my wheels when the kids came along. Well - The wife turned into an X - And I bought a bike and rode again for a bunch of yrs. I have always worn black on black with black. I always pulled my ego back. You know - over all those yrs, the MO and MC/ 1% were a great bunch to stop and chat with. The number of riders, the gents and ladies we met. Heck - we were in snow - -14 weather - we - [GF and I ] had 2 beds at a motel. Told a 1%er to come stay with us for the weekend. He did - and he had tears - when he told me, that no one - not even his brother - would invite him to stay with his family. We have been brothers ever since. It is the relationships that count. Cheers - have whatever beverage floats your boat! It has been an honor to meet all of you.
That's a great story! Thanks for being a solid dude for him.
Love the fact that everything was able to be handled so well and you guys are still good. Love these vids
Thank you for all you do and the years of service for these kids. Great videos, great information about the MO community.
Will definitely be contributing.
As always, good stuff!! Its good to see we can all operate and exist harmoniously in this world/culture! Hope he does well with the other MC.
Definitely a subject I was waiting for you to touch on!!!! Thank you brother.
Awesome vid, been around biking communities my whole life, and feel as a two wheeler the respect towards others as brothers and sisters should always be there, whether they ride for another club or organisation. We all in this together , we ride because is part of our life , and share a common ground in our passions.
Let’s start with he is a prospect and that’s what prospecting time is to see if the club is right for you and vise Versa. But if he left in good standing I don’t see it being a issue.
Exactly.
Wow, while I enjoyed this video I really felt humbled by the link you put in the description where I learned what BACA was all about. Thank you and all your brothers for all you do for our kids who have no place to turn.
Thank you.
Would have been great to know about this organization when my sisters and I was younger, they definitely would have helped us alot.
I just don't get why you can't name your organization online 🤷🏼
Well done video as always. Always good to see things from the eyes of others, I'm on the MC side of things, but absolutely have tons of love for the local chapter of your organization, keep the good content coming, and we'll done on giving the info you can while following the rules you need to.
Prospect period is for finding the right fit, we have received guys through the same sort of phone call, networking and trust is key for the entire community.
I really admire your and Ms. Monkey commitment to your MO and the fact you are making a difference in a child's life .... God bless you and your members!!!!
i do not know why you showed up in my recomended feed last week, but it was a good thing. i do not ride, never have, just been intrested and want to. ive watched several of your videos and enjoy all of them. im a volunteer firefighter and its kinda the same for us if a member leaves, on good terms, for another department, or retire, they are still a brother.
Great video ! Once a true mutual respect is given and received a brother is always a brother !
Great vid bud I’ve honestly watched this video a few times, each time it makes me happy that there’s places out here that have real family vibes with folks that are like minded 🤙🏼
I have no clue about clubs for the most part. However what you're saying makes perfect sense to me. Keep doing what you do my man. God bless.
Thanks TJ, good info & also good for the rest of the bikers out here. keep up the goood work!! the kids need yall!!
I appreciate that
Love what your organization stands for and all you guys do for the most horrorific thing in this world. Last month when you first brought up the partnership with Olite I went on the site and purchased one of the coolest items I thought they had….table lamps!! I received them and was not disappointed….they are frigging bada##!! I will make another purchase this month for a pistol light to help support your guys cause. Thanks
It is great the work you and your members are doing everyday that is such a wonderful cause. You’re articulate and informative it is a pleasure to watch your videos. You have this very personable and casual delivery that is like a motivational speaker, the way you are discreet discussing your MO is really admirable. You speak as if you have training in the field or just have a gift and speak from the heart. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and stories, God Bless!
I love watching your channel, im new here. Straight to the point, wise, respectful and informative. Lots to learn from the Professional Monkey, thanks!
This is an excellent video talking about a subject that is touchy in a ton of ways. Great job and that is the way to handle solid people who would do well in other organizations or clubs. Good stuff!
Your awesome man, always knowledgable and your straight forward, "Im an old wise biker and idgaf aboutyour comments" gives me a smile everytime haha
That’s how you take care of a brother. Lots of respect.
Bro, number one love the org that shall not be named, as a gdi that works with bringing the community together to help kids/family's. I work with A LOT of groups, You said it well! WELL F'ing Done!
Great story and for me you did the right thing. This guy was honest and respectful so why not help him on his way and stay on good terms. Good call!
Outstanding video, Mr. Monk! It also hit home for me. Due to a “difference of opinion “ I left an organization that I had been with for 21 years. I am out in good standing; however, some of my former “brothers” will no longer even give me a nod when they see me and have been harassing Brothers that have kept in contact with me. If I have to have the same patch as you to be your brother, then we were never brothers in the first place. The way you handled the situation with your former prospect was first class all the way! And kudos to him for being upfront when he realized your organization wasn’t a good fit for him. I hope he does well in the new MC. Thanks for your videos and prayers for you and your family and Club.
This is a great example of how in the club or organization world as a prospect, we are judging you, just as you are judging us, in a vacuum. Glad you mentioned the drama lol and once the nostalgia of the cut wears off the life is still there and very real but you keep showing up and shaking hands. Then one day you're with a couple brothers going to the "Gloves", you see a couple dominant %1er big wigs, as a prospect you always lead with the hand shake and then for the fist time, he put's his arm around you, your whole world changes. Great video Monkey
You sure are well respected within the community, and I can see why. Love you my good Sir, even though we have never met. MLLH&R. Your videos are genuine, informative, and you demonstrate knowledge and compassion. You are a good man, thank you for being you.
Friends and brothers are real. Organizations start and are established for people with like minds to come together, for a common goal. Being a friend and brother is a plus. Staying friends are important. Unless you do something horrible leaving friends behind is not something I would do. Glad you were able to remain amicable. Drop that hand to all bikers, were all enjoying the riding life. Well done on the recommendation. What we should do for great people.
Great video. Good insight as to the power of friendship and trust. I don’t belong to any club in fact I just got back on a bike after twenty years plus I’m an old guy (66) seeing if I can ride after back surgeries. Happily I can. I think there is a chapter of “the organization that shall not be named “ up here in Boise. I’ll need to look into them.
I love your channel and the way you bring knowledge about working on bikes. Keep them coming.
In Kind: I just wanted to tell you that you are an awesome individual PM. Your videos are something that many that want to know about their bike or life on two wheels can be. I just want you to know from my perspective you are one hell of a guy. Shiny side up and keep the rubber down brother. God Bless you and your family.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Great video great personality great organization great cause above all great communication. god bless
As a business owner people around you are extremely important. If a person isn't happy working for me and something better is on his table I must let go . If a referral is needed he will get one .Letting go may be difficult, but in the long haul it is always the best thing to do . Good story Mr M .
That’s awesome n thank you for doing itc
Great support from someone with all the experience you have is probably huge to him.
Mr. Pro-Monkey, the more I watch your videos and listen to your ideas and beliefs the stronger my appreciation and respect for you has grown. GOD Bless you Sir!
I appreciate that
The flag in the background says it all!! I’ve followed your channel since almost the beginning. I’ve had many a laugh and even learned some things. This side of who you and Mrs. Monkey is what it is all about. People helping others, especially children without any forethought of “What’s in it for me?”. I couldn’t possibly express my respect for You and the Mrs. and The Organization that shall not be named, for what is probably one of the important missions we need in this crazy chaotic world. No child or anyone for that matter should live in fear!!
Excellent video TJ…..
Thank you, sir.
Thank you Sir for all you do! Doing the right thing and planting the seeds of kindness and hope!!
What a great brother you are to him, too many people let personal feelings get involved. It seems to be a win/win situation.. Great job...
Great stuff TJ!!!! You're a wealth of knowledge and information!!!
Ha, if I am a wealth of knowledge we are all SCREWED!!!
😂😂😂 Jack of all trades...master of none?
Hell naw! You can't play that off! You remind me of a part from the movie "Pistol: The Pete Maravich Story"
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Just stumbled on your channel. You are just a good dude that explains the Biker world very well.
Thanks for these videos they have helped me understand the biker culture better. After hearing you talk about the organization you belong to I employed some very advanced detective work, figured out the organization (I will never tell) and am now a supporter of the organization which shale not be named and fully embrace the mission.
Great to hear!
Reall appreciate the content you provide about club and organization life
Great cause, Fun and informative videos..really cool garage keep up the good work
This was a really heartening tale to hear, thanks for sharing.
I enjoy your videos. New to the biker lifestyle and learning a ton from customizing bikes to club/group stuff.
Good job TJ. You really do step up to help a brother out!
Thanks.
WOW there is so much stuff to the organization or MC’s. I am not part of any of it. I have a cut, but don’t wear it to not get in trouble. I have it to put patches on from the destinations I rode to. When I get asked who I am riding with I respond with: I am riding alone cause I haven’t found anyone to ride with I’d enjoy to ride with. I even do 4K mile trips alone. Kind of like a lone Wolf but am not showing it with a patch or sticker.
Learned that stuff with the colors and clubs from you and the guys and gals at AM leather near Detroit. Thanks for educating us and sharing your knowledge to the outsiders.
Hey man. I just watched your linked video of the organization that shall not be named. I was in tears. I knew roughly who you were associated with and was excited as I had thought the one in my town was the same. It is not, but the mission is most likely very similar. As a Victim services volunteer here in Alberta, Canada, I see too many 'abuses against kids' cases. It is truly gross. When I lost my wife in 2020, a lot changed, but mostly it was me. I was blown away at how professional this organization is, and the thought of being able to merge my passion for riding with my passion for serving my community and these kids is mindblowing. We'll see how it goes, but I'm hopeful. Thanks for all you and your brothers do, and for all the people that and organizations that stand up for kids. Much respect, man. Much respect.
Great vid…. I’ve been training martial arts for 26yrs. We have four tenant that so align with all you said. Honour, Integrity, Loyalty and time… time being a vital component.
Good stuff man. Now that is what true brother hood is
Love the subject
And appreciate the info
You are one solid dude, man. I just love your videos because there is always something positive about the culture to learn from them. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
Outstanding vid!
Thank You for be a inspiration and good Human!
Wow, thank you!
Thank you for these videos soon ill be deciding what club i wanna prospect for.
Insightful in many ways, thanks for sharing.
Always appreciate the perspective.
Good to have Brothers like you in my world. Thank you 👊 😎
I know nothing about club/organization life and won't pretend that I do. I enjoy these videos as a learning experience. Thanks for the honest info Monk 👍
its all fucking stupid...
Thank you for your work. There is no excuse for abuse and it takes good people like you and the Org. It is a pleasure watching your vid from Australia. The world can be a small place thanks to the internet.
That's an awesome thing for you to say and do, Monkey!! Another great video!!
Totally agree with you.
When I left the military the big machine goes on. I got it. But it’s weird people rotate in and out and there’s a few that remember you.
So all in all I remember the olde folks and still considered them brothers.
Your organization sounds great. And your chapter sounds like good people. That’s a good mission.
Cheers 🍻
You my good sir are a Great man!! Thank you for all you do!!
Thank you kindly
If he left in good standing he is still YOUR brother, but not a club brother, and if he isn't still YOUR brother than he never was a brother.
Perfectly put!
I agree, the only exception would be if the other club was not a friend, but at that point he would be out bad or changed to OB.
What a great story and video. It was captivating to listen to. What an excellent outcome for all.
Thank you!
I used to hang out with the great people of BACA in Oklahoma when I was going to school " back in the day's ". I actually went with them on a few of theyr missions.
Big John was a guy who made A LOT of memories for us!!😂😂😂
LOVE & RESPECT FROM ICELAND.
I know this vid is a few months old, but its new to me. Ive watched a bunch of your stuff before and always like the content, but I have to admit this one hit me pretty hard. I have been riding close to my entire life, Ive known and met a lot of people, some of which come from clubs. But I personally have never felt the need to join one. I just ride, and felt that being in a club would cut down on my saddle time. A few months back, I met a few guys from a club near me, and for the first time, I felt that it might be a place Id like to belong. However, I am moving across the country in a week, knew it then, and I just wasnt able to commit. I really wish I could, and I believe I will be missing out on something. Listening to how committed to your group you are, and how you are trying to find that for a friend, makes me both happy for you and your bud, and a bit jealous that I dont have that for myself.
awesome video and a great topic as always 👍
While I have road and partied with bikers in my youth, I was never in an MC. That said, the organizational politics Mr. Monkey talks about, both internal and external, happen in every organization I have ever been part of and/or seen. I'm a great grandmother, so I have seen a lot of this in my life. Mr. Monkey's organization seems pretty squared away, healthy, functional and positive and these things are not easy to achieve, nor easy to maintain. Human nature, IMO, tends towards chaos and unhealthiness insofar as group organizations are concerned. Its a constant struggle to keep things squared away, healthy, positive and functional. So to Mr. Monkey and his group, hat's off and well done. 🙂
Obviously, for the last couple of decades, the records we received were digital and didn't arrive in a crate. They were no less numerous/voluminous.
Great story man, it really helps to remind me why I'd love to be apart of the right club or organization.
Glad to hear it!
I applaud you for all that you do, man!
ML&R
that is so fucking sweet that you guys have found a way to give that facility donations for the children
As the parent of an abused kid, I salute what your org does. It's been 10+ years and the abuse still haunts us. It's hell.
Keep in keeping on... love your baby, brother, thank god they have you...
From an outside perspective on the matter it seems like the young man absolutely made the right choice of calling the best person to speak and to handle what could be a very sensitive situation. You have a certain way of communicating with people and how you handle things! Nice story about respect and love of brotherhood!
3,200 views and only 800plus likes???
Good day Mr. Monkey,
During the last years I was in the Army I got my degree in Adolescent Psychology. As a single Dad I couldn't take the job at the local elementary school working with children from dysfunctional families. My children did not need me in prison for educating an abusive parent that refused to let a child use healthy tools I outfitted them with. I love your organization! All across America I take the word of BACA members as gospel. The 1% club I grew up around and prospected with would take your recommendation and fast track an individual. I pray your friend finds a home.
You Sir and Mrs. Monkey and so many others answer a calling I lack control to do. Even before my military training I used violence first, second and last so I do not fit facing "adults" that abuse children.
Whether in an MO, MC or riding club friendships are made and grow. Only an individual that is outed bad can cause heartache when that friendship has to end because of organization loyalty.
I appreciate your sharing your disappointment and high hopes for your friend. Personal responsibility today seems to be non existent. Keep up the good works for your children.
You all are in my prayers
Hoka Hey
Thanks Van, as always a brilliant and important perspective...
100% Agree I’m part of a VRC for 18 years and have had several members leave to join a MC because they wanted that life. They are brothers yes, we still hang together they attend our runs as we support theirs. Another Great video.
A lot of respect for that my bro, Love and respect from CHOSEN BROTHERHOOD MC PENNSYLVANIA CHAPTER
I just watched a link on here and wanted to let you know that I have been donating to them for a few years now every time I see them at Walmart in Huntington Beach out front of the store, I let them know years ago that we're on the same page without ever having seen each other, and
I appreciated them as well!!... Widowmaker
it's always good to see you videos
I have, for some time, applauded the work you do, the cause you work for, and for the great people you talk about. I know that my careers leave me little time for much else but someday would feel the need to dedicate myself to such a noble and vital effort. The thought of child abuse of any type disgusts me.
Man brother, you are one cool ass dude! Totally love your content and channel. Live in Cali but can’t wait to meet you, Robert Simmons and those other cool guys in your area. Keep up the great work. Oh and totally Love your bikes too. 👍🏼🙌🏼👏🏼🇺🇸
Right on!
Short answer yes of course, as long as he’s a solid Dude. I rode with the American Legion RC on Okinawa. As an RC we followed all the traditional rules of the local MC’s, to include the Big Dog 1% Club on Okinawa. Because we were a RC many folks that “joined” us ended up looking for more and left our group to go find that. I fully supported their decision and I’m still friends with all of them. This includes a guy that joined the local Big Dog Club. We would and will still ride together, have a beer together do whatever together as long as it’s cool with him. Of course I’m not here to hem anyone up that doesn't warrant it. That’s the long answer.
Thank u for all u do for kids in need.
There’s a lot of kids that need good strong positive support that have infinite potential in life.
ML&R
Thank you for the education..
That is exactly what a probationary(prospect) period is for to find out if you are a good fit with the club(organization) and if they are a good fit with you its a big commitment that many dont realize
I understand the chain of command . I get the concept. I don’t knock how people use their time and money. Not my business . Me personally I’m not a good fit for any of the organizations you have discussed. I ride with people that have ridden a very long time and shy away from those who are not experienced.
Plus my group is a bunch of crusty old bastards. 😏 I have fun with them and enjoy their company. Sometimes I’m solo. I really enjoy your vids and hearing about the great things your organization does for children. You crack me up a lot of a time along with your wife. And your old man as well. Don’t understand the nasty notes you get. Your doing what you want in life and loving it. Your how too vids are interesting and informative. Keep it up!
Thank you, I appreciate it. There are a lot of broken people in this world, and they can find negativity in anything.
Great story! Good luck to your Brother!
Fair play to him, you and the P of the MC. good on ya buddy
Great video. I loved the "bank robbery" joke. I spit Pepsi through my nose on that one.
I'm hoping to get a bike next spring. I've never had one before but I've always been interested. Mainly came across your videos by happenstance while researching a bunch of bikes. I really appreciate the safety tips
Good luck!
If an Army Ranger left the army on good terms and joined the navy seals or another branch, he is still an Army ranger……BUT, lol..he better not get caught wearing his old Army uniform while in the new branch.
Respect for you and you're MO.
I totally agree with you. It sucks that not everybody does. I was part of an M/M and left them due to a difference of opinion. I tried continuing to be a brother to everyone that was there, but unfortunately they didn't see it the same way. I know that not everyone who rides considers me as their brother, but I view them as my brother or sister. I only call them that if they feel the same way. I love watching your videos on here. I don't own a Harley Davidson, and probably never will, but I love watching the upgrades you do to your bikes. Like the prospect that this video was done about, I agree with what your organization stands for. I've considered joining the organization, or one with the same beliefs, but it's just not my fit. Keep doing what you're doing and stay safe.
Luv ur messages to people who don't know anything bout the life of a die hard motorcycle enthusiast.. what u say is the truth.. and I 💯 % respect ur organization as kids r most definitely off limits to any kind of bullying or abuse. Keep up the great work on keeping our youth safe. LYNS
Good stuff. Very informative
Much respect for you!
That was a real upstanding thing you did.