Please react to bts 2022 FESTA dinner, it just came out yesterday. This is an emotional one, with big news for the fans related to the future of the band. I would love to hear your input on this one.
This is one of my favourite SHINee videos ever. The way Minho handled the question about Jonghyun will always break yet warm my heart. He handled such a sensitive topic with such consideration, dignity and warmth. He’s so good at talking to children.
One thing I always find really funny is how other artists from the same entertainment explain how there's a "table at the cafeteria even the CEO avoids" which is a table with Minho, Yunho (TVXQ), and Suho (EXO) because they're so "intense" haha
@@juliakawall1574 oh yeah Siwon is also one of them! Forgot to mention him. But the others are also ones. Multiple people have mentioned it through the years so the members mentioned changes
I know Heechul has said that, and Minho’s response was gold. He essentially said Heechul was lying and that the CEO really avoids Heechul at events. Though to be fair, Heechul is also an intense guy in his own way 😆
@@arcticg7644 I remember that. I laughed so hard when Minho and Key said that to Heechul and even imitated Lee Soomin ( is this his name?, I hope I remembered it correctly)
@@arcticg7644 Heechul knows a lot like a lot of stuff the inside news what is happening around so they avoid him coz if thing goes wrong in any way Heechul knows how to turn the tables
Taemin explained jonghyun's absence in a different way. The kids mother shared that he explained to the kid what happend in a wonderful way. I understand why they didn't show this sequence, but I it was his choice to tell the kid the truth and it makes me a bit sad that it got cut.
someone might have mentioned this in your comments before, but I love how you picked up on minho being so charismatic because his nickname is "flaming charisma"
Hey Max, fun fact: One of Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma. And you saying he has a charismatic presence, nice! Also, he is very competitive and stubborn. Onew is the leader but he is very quiet, like an introspective person.
Minho is NOT stubborn that's a very wrong perception and clearly says that u don't know him at all. he is very soft sensitive and sweetest heart of a person and so kind to anyone. He is lovee by everyone in the industry
I've watched this odg clip a thousand times (and still usually cry during the Jonghyun part). We're always like "Oh they're so pure" about every second idol, but seriously, all SHINee members have such beautiful hearts and warm intentions in everything they do. They've got me through a lot. Thanks Max for your analysis of this one. Looking forward to you getting into chaotic SHINee also!
Yes, Key is very socially smart, and Onew more than coolness I always feel like there's a softness to him, in the way he speak and presents himself. Thank you for the analysis! I hope you'll continue doing more SHINee videos. I know sometimes it's more difficult to find older content with Jonghyun available or content that won't get copyrighted, but it'd be interesting for you to see them in different stages of their career.
Thanks for reacting to SHINee again. You mentioned how genuine they are, and how they don't try to put up some kind of front, and I think that is what I love most about them. Every video I've seen of them (beyond the very early days when they were told how they were supposed to act - Minho was supposed to be the "cool silent" one who didn't talk! LOL - luckily that didn't last long) just proves to me again and again that they are genuinely kind people who are humble and compassionate not only with each other but with fans and people in general. They don't ever pretend to be something they are not. You can tell when they are having fun and you can tell when they aren't really feeling it, even though they are always polite and professional even at those times (like your last SHINee reaction with Key who was a little over it). You can see they are very open-hearted in the way they show interest in the people they are talking to.
the idea of minho being the "cool silent" type is so hilarious because he's just always so animated, energetic and competitive. and he automatically comes across as warm and friendly lmao
Thanks for another SHINee reaction and analysis. I think you've pretty much hit the head on most of their characteristics: Minho is a very charismatic, extrovert, and sporty guy. He's very engaging and confident in who he is. As I said before, he's especially engaging with kids and will make a wonderful father some day. Key is the "MOM" of the group, always taking care of the other members while also being a VERY sassy and sarcastic comedian. I remember you saying in your last reaction of them that Key didn't seem to laugh a lot and was very serious...YOU NEED TO WATCH THEIR VLIVES IN THE CAR. He is WILD! Onew became much more introverted, quiet and less confident after Jonghyun's death. As SHINee's leader, he felt responsible for not knowing what was going to happen. Of course this is totally untrue, but it has taken a long time for Onew to recover. With the promotions of his new mini-album, I'm seeing glimpses of the more confident and engaging comedian that Onew was in the past. It's been good to see. The only real miss I'm seeing in your analysis is of Taemin and, as you said, you really haven't seen too much with him. Taemin is more complicated than the others. He isn't the way he first appears. There is an extreme duality about him. On stage he is a beast; off stage he is this sweet, cute, shy marshmallow of a guy who can be naive sometimes; clueless other times. He loses things often and can break something just by lightly touching it. However, Taemin can also get mischievous and even savage when warranted. One of his friends described him as "tofu with a core of iron." Taemin was, at the time of his debut, one of the youngest idols to ever debut with a group. He was only 14 (intl. age) and 12 when he entered the company, SM Entertainment -- a baby. He has said many times that he is a very introverted person and that remained true through much of his early career. He was awkward and terribly shy to the point that the other members would gently prompt him to answer a few interview questions, but then took care of the rest. He was not as inclined to speak during award shows, variety shows, or concerts as the other members. In fact, he developed a habit (very cute habit I might add) of having to touch (usually the thigh) or hide his face by hugging one of the other members when he became anxious/nervous during speaking moments: ruclips.net/video/Xg2KSKvM0g0/видео.html Essentially, they raised him: ruclips.net/video/NS3gXhPu-jU/видео.html Jonghyun's death was devastating to all the members, but I believe even more so to Taemin. He and Jonghyun knew each other during training prior to meeting the other members of SHINee. Jonghyun took the very young Taemin under his wing. JH said on his social media posts that he was Taemin's 2nd Mom and president of Taemin's fan club. He even delayed his own solo concert by two days so he could attend Taemin's first solo concert in Japan with Onew. He showed up wearing every piece of merch to show his support, which tickled Taemin. In addition, it was JH along with Onew who taught Taemin how to sing, as he was too young at debut due to immature vocal cords. So you can only imagine how soul-wrecking it must have been for Taemin to lose such a big brother at that time. His solo songs, "Under My Skin" and "Identity" reveal both his dark feelings and loss at that time, as well as how he feels like JH has become a part of his own identity. To add insult to injury, less than a year after that tragedy, the other members began leaving for the military within months of each other. Taemin, who had always had such a strong support group around him, was left alone to continue his solo career and promote SHINee. While this forced him to come out of his shell more, and he became much closer with his/SHINee's fans, with each and every interview, show appearance, concert tour, he always mentioned how very much he missed his SHINee "brothers". After a couple years, during a VLIVE in his car, Taemin showed his excitement of SHINee's reunion by letting fans know that the brothers were returning very soon beginning with Onew. He literally was beaming and said he wanted them to "hurry, hurry, hurry" and then the phrase that broke many of us "....I won't be alone anymore." ruclips.net/video/78R05t3mfjI/видео.html When they did return and had their first VLIVE together, literally the day Minho was discharged and rushed to the studio backstage (still in uniform) where Taemin was recording a performance for his new album release ( ruclips.net/video/q5IEGxSDUBc/видео.html ) , Taemin transformed and became a beaming, euphoric, happy, chatterbox that shocked most of us SHAWOLs. He had started learning English and used us as his tutors. He proudly showed his improvement to his brothers during their second meeting after being reunited, ruclips.net/video/M5mAdE_ueiU/видео.html (This and the previous link show the REAL SHINee). We were delighted to see this new, exuberant Taemin. It was like he finally climbed out of a long, dark tunnel: Unfortunately that euphoria didn't last but 7 months. It was Taemin's turn to enlist and that crushed him. He told us the news of his enlistment in a very sad and tearful goodbye during a VLIVE. We cried with him. He should be discharged in November, 2022. The Taemin of the past always hid his innermost thoughts and feelings. However, the more recent Taemin has been very open with SHAWOLs, always expressing his appreciation and love; how he misses meeting us through his concerts, and how important we are to him. He, who was always the one who never cried out of the group, can now cry on VLIVEs and reveal his emotions, concerns, and what he fears, shows an amazing amount of growth and candor. He has come out of his shell. Another thing to realize is that Taemin is extremely intelligent. His fortes are math and science (he enjoys watching physics documentaries...lol!), as well as philosophy which he demonstrates through his music concepts of Stockholm syndrome in "Criminal", Plato's Theory of Forms in "IDEA", and the temptations of fame and making the choice to overcome those temptations or cave to them in "Famous." He also regularly infuses his Catholic faith into his messaging through the very in-depth retelling of Genesis 3 in his MV for "Want" and the message of salvation into "Heaven" all while usually finding a way to incorporate the sign of the Cross into his choreos and establishing his "T-Pose" into every choreo to also reflect the sign of the Cross. As a very detail-oriented person, he involves himself into every little detail of his MVs. He's also well-known as a work-a-holic. Sometimes practicing dancing (one of his loves) for up to 17-18 hours straight! This interview by one of his friends shows a fragment of his thought process in his music: "Ravi's Close Up-Taemin, Pt. 1, Personal history: ruclips.net/video/fkz5iP_RnaY/видео.html ; Part 2, Music: ruclips.net/video/6CVj7FMxa_8/видео.html All of the above has made Taemin into what the Kpop industry has called the most humble, kind and generous Kpop idol in the industry. He, as well as all the SHINee members, is greatly respected and revered with the industry across company lines. I hope youw will continue to check out SHINee and delve into the enigma that is Taemin as well. Thank you!
Something I absolutely love about Shinee is that the five of them have such different characters and personalities but they come together and complement each other so perfectly and seamlessly like a puzzle or smth and it's a joy to watch
Thank you for reacting to SHINee!! Each member has their own unique personalities and vocal colors which together has made one of the best discographies in kpop. They have been working together in the industry for 14 years now. And when they debuted in 2008 the SHINee members age range was 14-18 at the time with Taemin being the youngest. Minho has a very big heart and has time and time again shown his endless support for his members. Minho has shown up to his members solo concerts, late night radio shows, musicals, music video recordings and has always been their number one fan. Key has a lot of experience working with kids, as he often visits children's hospitals and donates art supplies for the kids. Onew has always been reserved and calming, as the leader of SHINee he has shown his strength by listening to those around him and comforting them. Instead of standing in front as a leader, he strengthens SHINee from within by providing them with someone who they can rely on and someone they can lean on in times of struggle. Taemin, being the youngest has a youthful energy and chaotic antics that can put a smile on anyone's face. He loves to tease the members like any other sibling would.
The thing with Taemin, and you will notice this by looking at solo performances too, is how much care he puts into everything he does and interacts with, whether it's dancing, speaking, addressing an audience. He really is a great listener and pays attention to everything, to every detail, and that is reflected in how he masters dance and performance. He is a living legend in kpop at 29 years old, the whole industry looks up to him as a role model.
I love how you were able to point out such specific things about the members. Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma, so you were right about that and Key is genuinely really smart. Onew did seem to be the most affected, watching their old videos, and it might be because he is the Leader and was the only adult at the time of their debut so he had to worry about himself AND the other members too. Taemin is actually a superstar soloist as well. It doesn't really come across because he tends to be cute and clumsy when he isn't performing, but he is very highly regarded in the industry (all of SHINee are, but Taemin especially has inspired a LOT of idols)
this video is the reason why I got into SHINee (I know BabyWol here...) and I'm having flashbacks how I reacted and how I was so engrossed to them. I love SHINee and will forever support them. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this reaction.
wow same for me! this was the first shinee video i ever saw and it was what started my journey into becoming a shawol. their personalities are shown so well here and its hard not to fall in love with them. so cool to see this video really impact so many people
I think they were specialy emotional to see all this old moment of them cause Jonghyun was still there with them. But Minho handle it well with this little girl. All the Shawol still miss him and for sure the members too.
Taemin is definitely not the type to please people. He’s a very kindhearted and genuine person, but he’s an introvert by nature and he used to be very shy around people. In their younger days he was really happy to let his hyungs do the talking, while he would mostly stay silent, observe and learn. Your observation about him being very aware of people around him and focusing his whole energy on the child is actually spot on. I think he’s the type of person with very high emotional intelligence and sensitivity. He knows how to communicate with adults and kids and how to make them feel comfortable and safe. It was very clear in SuperM (his other group), where he quickly became a role model and very trusted older brother to all the younger members and was given the nickname Mother Taemresa. He’s also very funny and loves teasing his SHINee members. When being around them he’s definitely radiating this “youngest in the group”, carefree energy, which makes their interactions hilarious and very endearing. I really hope you’ll react to his interview with Ravi, where he talks a lot about his childhood and how he sometimes struggles to differentiate between his artistic and private persona. Thanks for another great video!
I would love if you could analyse Taemin’s conversational development. He always tends to say some out of pocket things because he’s awkward but also quite direct but compared to back then he really became more open. Just a few years ago he was the one always talked the least or needed his members to initiate him during concert talks for example. After what happened in 2017 he admitted that he wanted to change and be more open which he actually did! He talks quite a lot now and causes even more havoc everytime he gets the chance to. It probably felt like some type of responsibility since Jonghyun was always the most outspoken one in the group and suddenly that presence was missing and Taemin probably took it to himself to try and fill the gap
Already watched it on Patreon but decided to watch it here too lol I love Shinee. I'm not sure if you take suggestions but if you do, SHINee's reaction to their MV (ruclips.net/video/4l-wCVL1thU/видео.html) is a great video that really shows their chemistry with each other. It's technically a reaction video but it's one of the first times fans see them all together after the older three returned from the military and its full of banter and you can just see how happy they are (especially Taemin) is to have shinee together.
Thanks for the reaction! This is one of my favorite videos of SHINee so it was cool to see you react to it. I had the biggest smile whenever you talked about Minho--he really is so charismatic and commanding, but also has such a grounding and lovely presence. He's known to be a sweetheart. Taemin definitely comes across as very playful here and was able to connect well. And you were spot on when you said that Key is sharp and socially intelligent--he knows (and is friends with!) practically the entire idol industry and is very popular on variety TV shows for his fast wit and social sense.
Yayyy more SHINee, these guys are true jewels, their personalities are fantastic, they're all very good persons and they truly love each other, but at the same time they're all so different and complement each other in a different way, they shine with their own light. Even their singing voices have a different color but they can all sing and dance so well. This group is amazing, they put such great different people tigether but so talented in their own way, so they make magic together. I love your reactions, you get them so well! Thank you!!!! 🙂
I have so! much! trouble! with the 'curse of knowledge' when I am teaching a class. I really try to be aware of it and not go off on a tangent. You really explained that so well, lol, without falling into the too much knowledge trap!
i'm already laughing at the words that you used to describe minho (charismatic and fiercing) because his nickname is "flaming charisma." i just love the details that you brought up like key's wisdom, minho's kindness, onew's sincerity .
something about Minho is so welcoming like you want to talk or spend some time with him as his presence feels comforting his words make you feel at ease, that's why kids are drawn to him so do adults.
You’re really spot on with your reactions. Minho Taemin and Onew are introverted but unlike Onew, Minho and Taemin have their cheeky childish sides: Taemin loves being naughty but we only see it if they’ve someone to bounce off and that’s usually Jonghyun. The extroverts are Key and Jonghyun. They’re the social whiz, Onew is shy and quiet very introspective but with an inner strength
you read them pretty well!! hahha they are pretty direct and confident, as you said Minho and Key specially. And you are right about Taemin, he does tend to be sometimes a people pleaser spot on!
I don't stan shinee don't really know much about them. But I've seen them here and there. Minho has always caught my attention. He seems very warm and friendly. I've seen his interview with Jessi and he's so fun. Shawols pls tell me more about minho and his solo works
I love this guide and recommend for meet him better: ruclips.net/video/Ko9u6IjFzC0/видео.html Despite not being up to date with last year's activities, the guide is still good! In case you are interested, in this same channel there are individual guides for all members ☺️
You can see sadness in Onew's eyes when the girl asked who Jonghyun was and he then has this far away look and says, it was so long ago. Being new to Shinee the loss of Jonghyun is still fresh for me so seeing those old videos of him is really said. I love that the members and fans still consider Shinee a 5 member group.
The curse of knowledge - in different words, I discovered and described this issue to a coworker just the other day. A real challenge when working with many others on a large project, to say the least! Thanks for the insights, I subbed on this one ;)
SHINee are one of the most genuine groups in kpop. I really want to see you react to Minho and Key in I live Alone, just their bickering...if nothing else you'll get a good laugh!!
That was a great analysis.it was really wonderful watching you breakdown this video with the communication concept...I think Shinee really communicates well in their interviews ..They speak from their heart yet they speak with a lot of thought and clarity...✨ That's what i really appreciate about them.. i totally agree with your point about listening skills... people especially students really feel happy when you mention something that they have mentioned earlier or in earlier conversations.✨✨✨. SHINEE were really good with communicating with the kids ✨💎
SHINee is impressive on every level. I wish I knew about them when they debuted 14 yrs ago but have been enjoying playing catch-up. The kids regularly on the show are also incredibly charming and kind-hearted so the combination of course is magic. Jessi, who is a talented and popular solo artist/rapper in SK - with a huge personality - talked with some of the same kids about growing up as a Korean-American. Her interaction with them was precious. Worth checking it out if you haven’t already.
This was fun to watch and I really liked all the communication tips. Lets give some props to the behind the scenes person who has done a heck of a job editing and creating the additional content to make this a fantastic youtube channel to watch and learn! xo
Omg I loved this vid so much…when one of the kids noticed that there were only 4 members on screen and how MinHo addressed it….just so sweet Thank you for some SHINee!
SHINee was the only Kpop group I ever got really into back in like 2010. I actually preferred to just watch all of their interviews and TV show appearances rather than listening to their music that much because I liked their whole vibe and dynamic. Weird to see how they're still going despite everything and they're kind of still the same but also not at all.
Love it😊 thank you so much! Your analysis is actually making me more aware of what I'm doing and not doing, so I'm keeping them in mind for work (customer service). If you're interested in doing another SHINee video, I'd love to see your communication breakdown of their interview with Entertainment Weekly back in 2017!
off-topic but watching your videos and reactions to different people’s charisma has really made me reflect on myself and i started reading the charisma myth in hopes of growing into my full persona 🙏🏼 love your content
I love this video so much. Looking forward to see more videos about shinee from you!! I wish if you can do one of their vlives, like their 1of1 vlive for example it would be so interesting to hear your analysis about their chaotic personalities in these events 😊
You were absolutely right when you said Minho feels no need to impress people. Minho Oppa has not always been this way honestly he has evolved and grown over the years to become this person he is today. Yet he has not lost his innocence. ❤️ Btw tysm for reacting to this.
ahh you said kibum is really wise... yap..only kibum who can make Minho doing things for him hahaha and these 2 r really a best friend of the opposite side😁🙌
Fun facts : Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma taken from the lyrics of The SHINee World song during their debut era,plus because his charismatic and high spirit perosnalities. Besides, the staff also named him as Choi Tenderheart because of his kind and lovely heart.
love to see you reacting to shinee!! they've been around for a long time and really know how to present themselves well, i think. would love if you could find and react to something with jonghyun too
Lol! I was laughing at how Max said Minho doesn't feel the need to be heard or doesn't project his voice. As a member of the noisy trio (JjongMinKey) he's definitely up there with the volume. And the way he always steps in to retell a story someone just told always reminded me of a kid who wants a turn at telling mum what just happened.
SHINee as a whole is pretty good with kids, but Minho is GREAT! My favorite clips are of him interacting with kids, probably because he can be just a big kid himself, LOL.
React to “home alone” on kokowa tv. It showcases a part of life of key one episode and its so interesting to see the dynamic of the relationship between key and minho
Please please please react to key and taemin being a English mess it is truly amazing because taemins English is so odorable as he puts it. Thank you so much
thanks for reacting to shinee again! if you want to know more about taemin, i would totally recommend reacting to exo (and more nct!) because taemin is also in a supergroup with members from those two groups! it’s called SuperM, and i think it would be really cool to see you react to all of them together and see how differently they act when they’re with different members! of course it would probably be a better experience if you were more familiar with all 3 shinee, nct, and exo, so i’m just putting the idea out there for the future :)))
Love what your doing. PLEASE do MORE SHINee video’s. Can you also do their legendary Cake and water fights? I’m very curious about what you can tell about their communication skills while their being so mischievous. 😊
Thankyou for this video! Btw your last statement about minho was really on point, that's why kids love him. That girl in the video actually liked him and commented on his IG posts that she miss her samchon, they met only once if I'm not wrong. 🤧
I love this video honestly it’s a wholesome moment . I’m so happy you Watch a ODG video I won’t told to react here but you should watch their other content with the Child and other artist . They really great the way they communicate with the adult
your first video im watching and i really like how in depth you are! you also have a really good grasp on their personalities just from watching a few videos. and i love this vid bc it showcases minho's kindness and how well he is with kids
Love this communication aspect of reactions! I don't know if anyone has recommended, but I think Super Junior will be an interesting group to analyze. Everyone in the group has crazy communication skills LOL Their sub unit K.R.Y also had a video with these kids, it's adorable as well.
You said Taemin might be slight of a people pleaser which I think so too But not in a bad way? but more like..I think he REALLY likes to show what he can do to his fans. So there are some moments where Taemin specifically told his fans to "look at me and me only" as a joke but also you can kinda see where he really get his energy to do what he is good at.
Thank you so much for reacting to SHINee again! 💎✨ I love them and I'm loving getting to know your channel and your opinions and tips! 😍 I understand that it is more interesting to analyze the posture of the members with other people in interviews, but if possible, also react to videos of them only with each other! ❤️
some suggestions for next reactions: Ravi’s Close up with Taemin (part 1 and 2): ruclips.net/video/fkz5iP_RnaY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/6CVj7FMxa_8/видео.html KUPI with Onew (LEGO interview): ruclips.net/video/NJwLOA9XNag/видео.html Stardust interview with Jonghyun: ruclips.net/video/8esWzXs7LCs/видео.html Street Talk with Key: ruclips.net/video/-kfHiHJxKtg/видео.html Show!tweview with Jessi (Minho): ruclips.net/video/scJiPlCq-hg/видео.html Entertainment Weekly with SHINee (5 members): ruclips.net/video/dmv0iZe08ts/видео.html Prision Interview with SHINee (4 members): ruclips.net/video/m1VnzapuRHc/видео.html
Great video as usual! Are you going to be reacting to the festa dinner bts just posted? please do, it was a very emotional one and still has everyone in shambles
If you have time, please do the Super Junior interview with kids :) They are in SM too, and they are veterans in kpop, they debut in 2005 and still going (they actually have a comeback next month!!!)
Happy to see more SHINee??
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Please react to bts 2022 FESTA dinner, it just came out yesterday. This is an emotional one, with big news for the fans related to the future of the band. I would love to hear your input on this one.
Waiting for your reaction to BTS Festa 2022, it was a lot to digest and they opened up a lot! Hope to hear your perspective on it soon!
you should react to jackson in kelly clarkson show!!
Minho lead me to SHINee.
Please and more Ateez and TXT?
This is one of my favourite SHINee videos ever. The way Minho handled the question about Jonghyun will always break yet warm my heart. He handled such a sensitive topic with such consideration, dignity and warmth. He’s so good at talking to children.
Agreed!
yeah
One thing I always find really funny is how other artists from the same entertainment explain how there's a "table at the cafeteria even the CEO avoids" which is a table with Minho, Yunho (TVXQ), and Suho (EXO) because they're so "intense" haha
Isn't it minho, yunho and siwon?
@@juliakawall1574 oh yeah Siwon is also one of them! Forgot to mention him. But the others are also ones. Multiple people have mentioned it through the years so the members mentioned changes
I know Heechul has said that, and Minho’s response was gold. He essentially said Heechul was lying and that the CEO really avoids Heechul at events. Though to be fair, Heechul is also an intense guy in his own way 😆
@@arcticg7644 I remember that. I laughed so hard when Minho and Key said that to Heechul and even imitated Lee Soomin ( is this his name?, I hope I remembered it correctly)
@@arcticg7644 Heechul knows a lot like a lot of stuff the inside news what is happening around so they avoid him coz if thing goes wrong in any way Heechul knows how to turn the tables
Taemin explained jonghyun's absence in a different way. The kids mother shared that he explained to the kid what happend in a wonderful way. I understand why they didn't show this sequence, but I it was his choice to tell the kid the truth and it makes me a bit sad that it got cut.
I wish we could've seen it :(
Oh really? I didnt know this
What did he say?
What did he say??
Hope you have a source for something like that :0
someone might have mentioned this in your comments before, but I love how you picked up on minho being so charismatic because his nickname is "flaming charisma"
I did hear that. Haha. Very apt nickname.
Hey Max, fun fact: One of Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma.
And you saying he has a charismatic presence, nice! Also, he is very competitive and stubborn.
Onew is the leader but he is very quiet, like an introspective person.
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@@hanaanosman9846MY NAME IS MINHO
Minho is NOT stubborn that's a very wrong perception and clearly says that u don't know him at all. he is very soft sensitive and sweetest heart of a person and so kind to anyone. He is lovee by everyone in the industry
@@5hiningshawol525he is absolutely stubborn with Kibum 😂 man does stop nagging him or pointing out stuff he’s doing wrong! 😂
I love that you mention minho's childish side bc if you put him and key together they're so childish 😂 they bicker like an old couple
I've watched this odg clip a thousand times (and still usually cry during the Jonghyun part). We're always like "Oh they're so pure" about every second idol, but seriously, all SHINee members have such beautiful hearts and warm intentions in everything they do. They've got me through a lot. Thanks Max for your analysis of this one. Looking forward to you getting into chaotic SHINee also!
Their interaction with the kids was so cute 😭
Yes, Key is very socially smart, and Onew more than coolness I always feel like there's a softness to him, in the way he speak and presents himself.
Thank you for the analysis! I hope you'll continue doing more SHINee videos. I know sometimes it's more difficult to find older content with Jonghyun available or content that won't get copyrighted, but it'd be interesting for you to see them in different stages of their career.
Thanks for reacting to SHINee again. You mentioned how genuine they are, and how they don't try to put up some kind of front, and I think that is what I love most about them. Every video I've seen of them (beyond the very early days when they were told how they were supposed to act - Minho was supposed to be the "cool silent" one who didn't talk! LOL - luckily that didn't last long) just proves to me again and again that they are genuinely kind people who are humble and compassionate not only with each other but with fans and people in general. They don't ever pretend to be something they are not. You can tell when they are having fun and you can tell when they aren't really feeling it, even though they are always polite and professional even at those times (like your last SHINee reaction with Key who was a little over it). You can see they are very open-hearted in the way they show interest in the people they are talking to.
the idea of minho being the "cool silent" type is so hilarious because he's just always so animated, energetic and competitive. and he automatically comes across as warm and friendly lmao
Thanks for another SHINee reaction and analysis. I think you've pretty much hit the head on most of their characteristics: Minho is a very charismatic, extrovert, and sporty guy. He's very engaging and confident in who he is. As I said before, he's especially engaging with kids and will make a wonderful father some day. Key is the "MOM" of the group, always taking care of the other members while also being a VERY sassy and sarcastic comedian. I remember you saying in your last reaction of them that Key didn't seem to laugh a lot and was very serious...YOU NEED TO WATCH THEIR VLIVES IN THE CAR. He is WILD! Onew became much more introverted, quiet and less confident after Jonghyun's death. As SHINee's leader, he felt responsible for not knowing what was going to happen. Of course this is totally untrue, but it has taken a long time for Onew to recover. With the promotions of his new mini-album, I'm seeing glimpses of the more confident and engaging comedian that Onew was in the past. It's been good to see.
The only real miss I'm seeing in your analysis is of Taemin and, as you said, you really haven't seen too much with him. Taemin is more complicated than the others. He isn't the way he first appears. There is an extreme duality about him. On stage he is a beast; off stage he is this sweet, cute, shy marshmallow of a guy who can be naive sometimes; clueless other times. He loses things often and can break something just by lightly touching it. However, Taemin can also get mischievous and even savage when warranted. One of his friends described him as "tofu with a core of iron." Taemin was, at the time of his debut, one of the youngest idols to ever debut with a group. He was only 14 (intl. age) and 12 when he entered the company, SM Entertainment -- a baby. He has said many times that he is a very introverted person and that remained true through much of his early career. He was awkward and terribly shy to the point that the other members would gently prompt him to answer a few interview questions, but then took care of the rest. He was not as inclined to speak during award shows, variety shows, or concerts as the other members. In fact, he developed a habit (very cute habit I might add) of having to touch (usually the thigh) or hide his face by hugging one of the other members when he became anxious/nervous during speaking moments: ruclips.net/video/Xg2KSKvM0g0/видео.html Essentially, they raised him: ruclips.net/video/NS3gXhPu-jU/видео.html
Jonghyun's death was devastating to all the members, but I believe even more so to Taemin. He and Jonghyun knew each other during training prior to meeting the other members of SHINee. Jonghyun took the very young Taemin under his wing. JH said on his social media posts that he was Taemin's 2nd Mom and president of Taemin's fan club. He even delayed his own solo concert by two days so he could attend Taemin's first solo concert in Japan with Onew. He showed up wearing every piece of merch to show his support, which tickled Taemin. In addition, it was JH along with Onew who taught Taemin how to sing, as he was too young at debut due to immature vocal cords. So you can only imagine how soul-wrecking it must have been for Taemin to lose such a big brother at that time. His solo songs, "Under My Skin" and "Identity" reveal both his dark feelings and loss at that time, as well as how he feels like JH has become a part of his own identity.
To add insult to injury, less than a year after that tragedy, the other members began leaving for the military within months of each other. Taemin, who had always had such a strong support group around him, was left alone to continue his solo career and promote SHINee. While this forced him to come out of his shell more, and he became much closer with his/SHINee's fans, with each and every interview, show appearance, concert tour, he always mentioned how very much he missed his SHINee "brothers". After a couple years, during a VLIVE in his car, Taemin showed his excitement of SHINee's reunion by letting fans know that the brothers were returning very soon beginning with Onew. He literally was beaming and said he wanted them to "hurry, hurry, hurry" and then the phrase that broke many of us "....I won't be alone anymore." ruclips.net/video/78R05t3mfjI/видео.html
When they did return and had their first VLIVE together, literally the day Minho was discharged and rushed to the studio backstage (still in uniform) where Taemin was recording a performance for his new album release ( ruclips.net/video/q5IEGxSDUBc/видео.html ) , Taemin transformed and became a beaming, euphoric, happy, chatterbox that shocked most of us SHAWOLs. He had started learning English and used us as his tutors. He proudly showed his improvement to his brothers during their second meeting after being reunited, ruclips.net/video/M5mAdE_ueiU/видео.html (This and the previous link show the REAL SHINee). We were delighted to see this new, exuberant Taemin. It was like he finally climbed out of a long, dark tunnel: Unfortunately that euphoria didn't last but 7 months. It was Taemin's turn to enlist and that crushed him. He told us the news of his enlistment in a very sad and tearful goodbye during a VLIVE. We cried with him. He should be discharged in November, 2022.
The Taemin of the past always hid his innermost thoughts and feelings. However, the more recent Taemin has been very open with SHAWOLs, always expressing his appreciation and love; how he misses meeting us through his concerts, and how important we are to him. He, who was always the one who never cried out of the group, can now cry on VLIVEs and reveal his emotions, concerns, and what he fears, shows an amazing amount of growth and candor. He has come out of his shell.
Another thing to realize is that Taemin is extremely intelligent. His fortes are math and science (he enjoys watching physics documentaries...lol!), as well as philosophy which he demonstrates through his music concepts of Stockholm syndrome in "Criminal", Plato's Theory of Forms in "IDEA", and the temptations of fame and making the choice to overcome those temptations or cave to them in "Famous." He also regularly infuses his Catholic faith into his messaging through the very in-depth retelling of Genesis 3 in his MV for "Want" and the message of salvation into "Heaven" all while usually finding a way to incorporate the sign of the Cross into his choreos and establishing his "T-Pose" into every choreo to also reflect the sign of the Cross. As a very detail-oriented person, he involves himself into every little detail of his MVs. He's also well-known as a work-a-holic. Sometimes practicing dancing (one of his loves) for up to 17-18 hours straight! This interview by one of his friends shows a fragment of his thought process in his music: "Ravi's Close Up-Taemin, Pt. 1, Personal history: ruclips.net/video/fkz5iP_RnaY/видео.html ; Part 2, Music: ruclips.net/video/6CVj7FMxa_8/видео.html
All of the above has made Taemin into what the Kpop industry has called the most humble, kind and generous Kpop idol in the industry. He, as well as all the SHINee members, is greatly respected and revered with the industry across company lines. I hope youw will continue to check out SHINee and delve into the enigma that is Taemin as well. Thank you!
I was fine reading your comment until "I won't be alone anymore" part 😭
Love your comment, so informative and it made me so emotional I started crying 😭
I loved reading your comment, it was beautiful and insightful ❤️
Great comment
Something I absolutely love about Shinee is that the five of them have such different characters and personalities but they come together and complement each other so perfectly and seamlessly like a puzzle or smth and it's a joy to watch
Thank you for reacting to SHINee!! Each member has their own unique personalities and vocal colors which together has made one of the best discographies in kpop. They have been working together in the industry for 14 years now. And when they debuted in 2008 the SHINee members age range was 14-18 at the time with Taemin being the youngest. Minho has a very big heart and has time and time again shown his endless support for his members. Minho has shown up to his members solo concerts, late night radio shows, musicals, music video recordings and has always been their number one fan. Key has a lot of experience working with kids, as he often visits children's hospitals and donates art supplies for the kids. Onew has always been reserved and calming, as the leader of SHINee he has shown his strength by listening to those around him and comforting them. Instead of standing in front as a leader, he strengthens SHINee from within by providing them with someone who they can rely on and someone they can lean on in times of struggle. Taemin, being the youngest has a youthful energy and chaotic antics that can put a smile on anyone's face. He loves to tease the members like any other sibling would.
Loving the communication skills breakdowns.
The thing with Taemin, and you will notice this by looking at solo performances too, is how much care he puts into everything he does and interacts with, whether it's dancing, speaking, addressing an audience. He really is a great listener and pays attention to everything, to every detail, and that is reflected in how he masters dance and performance. He is a living legend in kpop at 29 years old, the whole industry looks up to him as a role model.
I love how you were able to point out such specific things about the members.
Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma, so you were right about that and Key is genuinely really smart.
Onew did seem to be the most affected, watching their old videos, and it might be because he is the Leader and was the only adult at the time of their debut so he had to worry about himself AND the other members too.
Taemin is actually a superstar soloist as well. It doesn't really come across because he tends to be cute and clumsy when he isn't performing, but he is very highly regarded in the industry (all of SHINee are, but Taemin especially has inspired a LOT of idols)
this video is the reason why I got into SHINee (I know BabyWol here...) and I'm having flashbacks how I reacted and how I was so engrossed to them. I love SHINee and will forever support them. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for this reaction.
wow same for me! this was the first shinee video i ever saw and it was what started my journey into becoming a shawol. their personalities are shown so well here and its hard not to fall in love with them. so cool to see this video really impact so many people
I think they were specialy emotional to see all this old moment of them cause Jonghyun was still there with them. But Minho handle it well with this little girl. All the Shawol still miss him and for sure the members too.
Taemin is definitely not the type to please people. He’s a very kindhearted and genuine person, but he’s an introvert by nature and he used to be very shy around people. In their younger days he was really happy to let his hyungs do the talking, while he would mostly stay silent, observe and learn. Your observation about him being very aware of people around him and focusing his whole energy on the child is actually spot on. I think he’s the type of person with very high emotional intelligence and sensitivity. He knows how to communicate with adults and kids and how to make them feel comfortable and safe. It was very clear in SuperM (his other group), where he quickly became a role model and very trusted older brother to all the younger members and was given the nickname Mother Taemresa. He’s also very funny and loves teasing his SHINee members. When being around them he’s definitely radiating this “youngest in the group”, carefree energy, which makes their interactions hilarious and very endearing. I really hope you’ll react to his interview with Ravi, where he talks a lot about his childhood and how he sometimes struggles to differentiate between his artistic and private persona. Thanks for another great video!
I would love if you could analyse Taemin’s conversational development. He always tends to say some out of pocket things because he’s awkward but also quite direct but compared to back then he really became more open. Just a few years ago he was the one always talked the least or needed his members to initiate him during concert talks for example. After what happened in 2017 he admitted that he wanted to change and be more open which he actually did! He talks quite a lot now and causes even more havoc everytime he gets the chance to. It probably felt like some type of responsibility since Jonghyun was always the most outspoken one in the group and suddenly that presence was missing and Taemin probably took it to himself to try and fill the gap
Already watched it on Patreon but decided to watch it here too lol I love Shinee. I'm not sure if you take suggestions but if you do, SHINee's reaction to their MV (ruclips.net/video/4l-wCVL1thU/видео.html) is a great video that really shows their chemistry with each other. It's technically a reaction video but it's one of the first times fans see them all together after the older three returned from the military and its full of banter and you can just see how happy they are (especially Taemin) is to have shinee together.
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Thanks for the reaction! This is one of my favorite videos of SHINee so it was cool to see you react to it. I had the biggest smile whenever you talked about Minho--he really is so charismatic and commanding, but also has such a grounding and lovely presence. He's known to be a sweetheart. Taemin definitely comes across as very playful here and was able to connect well. And you were spot on when you said that Key is sharp and socially intelligent--he knows (and is friends with!) practically the entire idol industry and is very popular on variety TV shows for his fast wit and social sense.
Yayyy more SHINee, these guys are true jewels, their personalities are fantastic, they're all very good persons and they truly love each other, but at the same time they're all so different and complement each other in a different way, they shine with their own light. Even their singing voices have a different color but they can all sing and dance so well. This group is amazing, they put such great different people tigether but so talented in their own way, so they make magic together.
I love your reactions, you get them so well!
Thank you!!!! 🙂
key and the boy .. always melt me
That kid is so damn cute
5:18 yes! so true! dream girl is in fact a great song!! thank you for more shinee, this was a great video :)
I'm only just getting into Shinee and even I got emotional seeing the way Minho handled talking about Jonghyun. He handled it well.
yess minho’s posture is amazing, he’s also a marine so it makes sense
i remember watching this video before knowing anything about kpop and it broke my heart when i discovered what minho was talking about
yeah key is super smart it's scary sometimes 😂
I have so! much! trouble! with the 'curse of knowledge' when I am teaching a class. I really try to be aware of it and not go off on a tangent. You really explained that so well, lol, without falling into the too much knowledge trap!
Thanks Liz! And lol I feel like the vast majority of us fall into that trap.
MINHO is such a sweetheart
i'm already laughing at the words that you used to describe minho (charismatic and fiercing) because his nickname is "flaming charisma." i just love the details that you brought up like key's wisdom, minho's kindness, onew's sincerity .
This is always so wholesome and sweet too watch every feels so natural and calm.
Thanks for saying that:)
something about Minho is so welcoming like you want to talk or spend some time with him as his presence feels comforting his words make you feel at ease, that's why kids are drawn to him so do adults.
You’re really spot on with your reactions. Minho Taemin and Onew are introverted but unlike Onew, Minho and Taemin have their cheeky childish sides: Taemin loves being naughty but we only see it if they’ve someone to bounce off and that’s usually Jonghyun. The extroverts are Key and Jonghyun. They’re the social whiz, Onew is shy and quiet very introspective but with an inner strength
you read them pretty well!! hahha they are pretty direct and confident, as you said Minho and Key specially. And you are right about Taemin, he does tend to be sometimes a people pleaser spot on!
I love the interactions between Taemin and Key or Key and Minho. We can feel how comfortable they are with each other and that they are good friends
i'm happy you've been reacting to SHINee recently !!!
Taemin is just in his element. He a kid too. He can be 50 years old and still be a kid lmao
I don't stan shinee don't really know much about them. But I've seen them here and there. Minho has always caught my attention. He seems very warm and friendly. I've seen his interview with Jessi and he's so fun. Shawols pls tell me more about minho and his solo works
@Shining their light in the Area of my heart thanku for your time
I love this guide and recommend for meet him better: ruclips.net/video/Ko9u6IjFzC0/видео.html
Despite not being up to date with last year's activities, the guide is still good!
In case you are interested, in this same channel there are individual guides for all members ☺️
You can see sadness in Onew's eyes when the girl asked who Jonghyun was and he then has this far away look and says, it was so long ago. Being new to Shinee the loss of Jonghyun is still fresh for me so seeing those old videos of him is really said. I love that the members and fans still consider Shinee a 5 member group.
Thank you !!! Hope you still making SHINEe content
I can understand more why key and minho are always called on TV shows...they very trust worthy
Key is really good with kids-he raised Taemin 👏
The curse of knowledge - in different words, I discovered and described this issue to a coworker just the other day. A real challenge when working with many others on a large project, to say the least! Thanks for the insights, I subbed on this one ;)
Appreciate the comment and the sub :)
AHHH you checking out shinee makes me so happy!!!!!!!!
Minho really warm my heart the way he handled the question about Jonghyun. Jonghyun is looking down on them and smiles his dazzling smile.
THANK U FOR REACTING TO SHINEE YOU SHOULD REACT TO THEIR FUNNY MOMENTS TOO♥️♥️
SHINee are one of the most genuine groups in kpop. I really want to see you react to Minho and Key in I live Alone, just their bickering...if nothing else you'll get a good laugh!!
You should check out Key & Minho on I Live Alone. I think you would LOVE it!
Eventhough I tell myself to to cry over Jonghyun anymore....I can't seem to keep my tears in when Minho talks about him ....
Thank you for catching all the little things from the way they talk and act. I hope to see more of SHINee related content. 😍
That was a great analysis.it was really wonderful watching you breakdown this video with the communication concept...I think Shinee really communicates well in their interviews ..They speak from their heart yet they speak with a lot of thought and clarity...✨ That's what i really appreciate about them..
i totally agree with your point about listening skills... people especially students really feel happy when you mention something that they have mentioned earlier or in earlier conversations.✨✨✨. SHINEE were really good with communicating with the kids ✨💎
Thanks so much for the nice comment!
SHINee is impressive on every level. I wish I knew about them when they debuted 14 yrs ago but have been enjoying playing catch-up. The kids regularly on the show are also incredibly charming and kind-hearted so the combination of course is magic. Jessi, who is a talented and popular solo artist/rapper in SK - with a huge personality - talked with some of the same kids about growing up as a Korean-American. Her interaction with them was precious. Worth checking it out if you haven’t already.
This was fun to watch and I really liked all the communication tips. Lets give some props to the behind the scenes person who has done a heck of a job editing and creating the additional content to make this a fantastic youtube channel to watch and learn! xo
Love SHINEE so much 💕💕💕💕💕
Key is SHINee's mother lol, he always takes care of them and acts like a mother. boys play with it.
Thank you so much for reacting to this interview!
thanks for reacting to shinee ❤
Omg I loved this vid so much…when one of the kids noticed that there were only 4 members on screen and how MinHo addressed it….just so sweet
Thank you for some SHINee!
SHINee was the only Kpop group I ever got really into back in like 2010. I actually preferred to just watch all of their interviews and TV show appearances rather than listening to their music that much because I liked their whole vibe and dynamic. Weird to see how they're still going despite everything and they're kind of still the same but also not at all.
Love it😊 thank you so much! Your analysis is actually making me more aware of what I'm doing and not doing, so I'm keeping them in mind for work (customer service).
If you're interested in doing another SHINee video, I'd love to see your communication breakdown of their interview with Entertainment Weekly back in 2017!
off-topic but watching your videos and reactions to different people’s charisma has really made me reflect on myself and i started reading the charisma myth in hopes of growing into my full persona 🙏🏼 love your content
Love that. Thanks for sharing.
I love this video so much. Looking forward to see more videos about shinee from you!! I wish if you can do one of their vlives, like their 1of1 vlive for example it would be so interesting to hear your analysis about their chaotic personalities in these events 😊
Thank you☺️ I'm glad you like them
You were absolutely right when you said Minho feels no need to impress people. Minho Oppa has not always been this way honestly he has evolved and grown over the years to become this person he is today. Yet he has not lost his innocence. ❤️ Btw tysm for reacting to this.
This is a real learning experience
I'm so glad! Thanks for being here:)
KEY and JESSI's interview though
I wish you'd do more of SHINee. I like you liking them☺
you have to watch more of the ODG channel i really love minseo she is such an inelligent child you should watch her video with IU
It makes me sad when Minho ‘says he’s a good Uncle’. Still strongly affects him losing his friend x
ahh you said kibum is really wise... yap..only kibum who can make Minho doing things for him hahaha and these 2 r really a best friend of the opposite side😁🙌
Fun facts : Minho's nickname is Flaming Charisma taken from the lyrics of The SHINee World song during their debut era,plus because his charismatic and high spirit perosnalities. Besides, the staff also named him as Choi Tenderheart because of his kind and lovely heart.
love to see you reacting to shinee!! they've been around for a long time and really know how to present themselves well, i think. would love if you could find and react to something with jonghyun too
Lol! I was laughing at how Max said Minho doesn't feel the need to be heard or doesn't project his voice. As a member of the noisy trio (JjongMinKey) he's definitely up there with the volume. And the way he always steps in to retell a story someone just told always reminded me of a kid who wants a turn at telling mum what just happened.
thank you for reacting to shinee! if you're taking an interest in "older" groups, i'd recommend BTOB and Infinite - they have hilarious dynamics :)
SHINee as a whole is pretty good with kids, but Minho is GREAT! My favorite clips are of him interacting with kids, probably because he can be just a big kid himself, LOL.
That's really accurate.
React to “home alone” on kokowa tv. It showcases a part of life of key one episode and its so interesting to see the dynamic of the relationship between key and minho
Please do more Shinee in the future!
Please please please react to key and taemin being a English mess it is truly amazing because taemins English is so odorable as he puts it. Thank you so much
thanks for reacting to shinee again! if you want to know more about taemin, i would totally recommend reacting to exo (and more nct!) because taemin is also in a supergroup with members from those two groups! it’s called SuperM, and i think it would be really cool to see you react to all of them together and see how differently they act when they’re with different members! of course it would probably be a better experience if you were more familiar with all 3 shinee, nct, and exo, so i’m just putting the idea out there for the future :)))
Love what your doing. PLEASE do MORE SHINee video’s. Can you also do their legendary Cake and water fights? I’m very curious about what you can tell about their communication skills while their being so mischievous. 😊
Love this. Thank you! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the video. You have to see Minho's interactions with the kids younger than these kids at Superman Returns..
I'd love you to react to the NCT episode. The one were Yuta and Johnny talked to kids about their home countries. I found it very wholesome 💚
Those guys are awesome
Thankyou for this video! Btw your last statement about minho was really on point, that's why kids love him. That girl in the video actually liked him and commented on his IG posts that she miss her samchon, they met only once if I'm not wrong. 🤧
Please do more for SHINee
I love this video honestly it’s a wholesome moment . I’m so happy you Watch a ODG video I won’t told to react here but you should watch their other content with the Child and other artist . They really great the way they communicate with the adult
your first video im watching and i really like how in depth you are! you also have a really good grasp on their personalities just from watching a few videos. and i love this vid bc it showcases minho's kindness and how well he is with kids
Love this communication aspect of reactions!
I don't know if anyone has recommended, but I think Super Junior will be an interesting group to analyze. Everyone in the group has crazy communication skills LOL
Their sub unit K.R.Y also had a video with these kids, it's adorable as well.
You should definitely react to the festa 2022, this one is an emotional one and we see RM get emotional in this one
Omg more SHINee, ok time to subscribe, somehow I though this would be a one time vid but here you are.
they'd be such good dads T.T
You said Taemin might be slight of a people pleaser which I think so too
But not in a bad way? but more like..I think he REALLY likes to show what he can do to his fans.
So there are some moments where Taemin specifically told his fans to "look at me and me only" as a joke but also you can kinda see where he really get his energy to do what he is good at.
Thank you so much for reacting to SHINee again! 💎✨ I love them and I'm loving getting to know your channel and your opinions and tips! 😍
I understand that it is more interesting to analyze the posture of the members with other people in interviews, but if possible, also react to videos of them only with each other! ❤️
some suggestions for next reactions:
Ravi’s Close up with Taemin (part 1 and 2):
ruclips.net/video/fkz5iP_RnaY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/6CVj7FMxa_8/видео.html
KUPI with Onew (LEGO interview):
ruclips.net/video/NJwLOA9XNag/видео.html
Stardust interview with Jonghyun:
ruclips.net/video/8esWzXs7LCs/видео.html
Street Talk with Key:
ruclips.net/video/-kfHiHJxKtg/видео.html
Show!tweview with Jessi (Minho):
ruclips.net/video/scJiPlCq-hg/видео.html
Entertainment Weekly with SHINee (5 members):
ruclips.net/video/dmv0iZe08ts/видео.html
Prision Interview with SHINee (4 members):
ruclips.net/video/m1VnzapuRHc/видео.html
Great video as usual! Are you going to be reacting to the festa dinner bts just posted? please do, it was a very emotional one and still has everyone in shambles
Yes, for sure
If you have time, please do the Super Junior interview with kids :)
They are in SM too, and they are veterans in kpop, they debut in 2005 and still going (they actually have a comeback next month!!!)