Strictly for lack of maintenance in an adventure setting. However, I could not contemplate a shaft on a dirt bike. I also prefer a chain for tarmac only. However, @connor3288 above raised a good point about a shaft's drawback which I did not consider.
The main reason I have a shaft-driven motorcycle is I'm completely new to the world of motorcycles. Just a month ago I got my driver's license and bought a 2011 Honda NT700V, now I can focus on becoming a better driver without the hassle of a chain. But who knows what the future will bring.....
Yes, GS owners. Love the shaft, talk about the shaft, dream about the shaft and obviously take the shaft. All the 1300 GS owners are creaming because it has a bigger longer shaft. I'm not sure about sure though. BMW have had lots of shaft issues and when they fail its catastrophic. If the shrapnel dont kill you. The locked rear wheel and ejection probably will
Ok Rembo, there is only one reason, and one reason alone for not having a shaft driven motorcycle, last I checked, all Ducatis have a chain. There it is....simple, never thought about it after trading in my FJR for...yup....another Ducati. Thanks Brother! Take care Dave
Hey Rembo.... to be honest I do not agree with you. I had Honda Crosstourer and done 70k KMs and GS 1250 and done 30k KM I also had Kawasaki Ninja, Ducati 848 on which I made 40k KMs, Honda Africa Twin doing 20k KMs. So on both types I have more than 100k KMs done....and there is in fact only one advantage of having shaft ..... which is .... that immediately after the day ride is finished you can have a beer straight away 😃 P.S. I just sold my GS 1250 and I am in the Ducati MTS Adventure market right now 🤩
Umm I think that depends... If doing water crossings, water could potentially get into shaft drive oil and contaminate it. And water could maybe wash out grease from driveshaft on some bikes over time. With chain drive you can change gearing for your riding style, area, and preference. Most annoying thing about chain for me is adjusting it.
Unless you race all the time and everywhere, shaft drive is the best. ; you change the oil once a year. . .and your rear wheel stays clean. . And , in my experirnce, my 2; 750 Yamahas, XS and XJ; among chain driven curent air cooled 750, I always been the fastest. . not by much, but I was leading😉
Couldn’t agree more with your points even though I ride the Multi V4s. Now only if Ducati would make a shaft drive Multistrada; that would be the best of both worlds. They have already moved from the desmo valves to conventional ones - who’s to say this won’t happen in future. Just saying 😂😂😂 Cheers
But mentioning pros and no cons is unfair. Loss of power comes to mind. Which is why you never see shaft drive bikes in races. When a shaft drive malfunctions, which have happened to quite a few R11XX/12XX GS bikes, it will be rather pricey to repair. Today chain drive can be with Regina chain and/or with automatic lubrication. This makes chains get very close to shaft drive in longevity (thinking about wear on the cross member). Shaft drive without the Guzzi invented paralellogram add on will give rather much shaft reaction. We could go on. But in the end, I agree that shaft drive will be a lot less worrying to many people in ncomparison to the use of a chain. I leave out belt drive due to the issues with leaving tarmac with that drive system.
Tell us why you prefer the shaft?
Strictly for lack of maintenance in an adventure setting. However, I could not contemplate a shaft on a dirt bike. I also prefer a chain for tarmac only.
However, @connor3288 above raised a good point about a shaft's drawback which I did not consider.
Because I'm basically lazy.
I prefere a Kardangelenkwelle over a Schaft.
I don't get peoples kink for chains and leather attire... A motorbike is not a darkroom after all.
He's been hurt by too many women 😂 jk
The main reason I have a shaft-driven motorcycle is I'm completely new to the world of motorcycles. Just a month ago I got my driver's license and bought a 2011 Honda NT700V, now I can focus on becoming a better driver without the hassle of a chain. But who knows what the future will bring.....
I bet you wont have problems with the deauville
@@yaninacepqni2091 , not one :)
Has me thinking a Guzzi rather than a Triumph could be my next bike. I think I might “like the shaft.” 😂
LOL, either choice is a good choice. Chain or shaft is still fun.
Here I am trying to learn something and in the first 10 seconds I’m spitting out my coffee through my nose! 😂
I'm glad you appreciated the humor. Thanks!
Yes, GS owners. Love the shaft, talk about the shaft, dream about the shaft and obviously take the shaft.
All the 1300 GS owners are creaming because it has a bigger longer shaft.
I'm not sure about sure though.
BMW have had lots of shaft issues and when they fail its catastrophic. If the shrapnel dont kill you. The locked rear wheel and ejection probably will
LMFAO
The first thing every GS owner I’ve met always starts out mentioning shaft drive and low maintenance… it never fails
Never fails as long as u change the oil and your not a knuckle dragging Neanderthal that doesn't believe in any maintenance
im 600 miles in on my triple black gs1300, first service on Tuesday is set, man what a bike but the PP will always be my monster!!!
Enjoy the new BMW
All hail to the Guzzi!
Can't help thinking this whole video was for you to emphasize 'shaft' each time for the innuendo ;-)
I would not argue your viewpoint.
Which bikes have belt and which bike have complete chain cover
Good show
I had it, but under powered. lol, please note: maintenance is the key ingredients.
Don't forget this video that discussed that: ruclips.net/video/bxd4xK_TZ0g/видео.htmlsi=p4z9LZKDjs9JXYru
Ok Rembo, there is only one reason, and one reason alone for not having a shaft driven motorcycle, last I checked, all Ducatis have a chain. There it is....simple, never thought about it after trading in my FJR for...yup....another Ducati.
Thanks Brother!
Take care
Dave
Great point
Hey Rembo.... to be honest I do not agree with you. I had Honda Crosstourer and done 70k KMs and GS 1250 and done 30k KM I also had Kawasaki Ninja, Ducati 848 on which I made 40k KMs, Honda Africa Twin doing 20k KMs. So on both types I have more than 100k KMs done....and there is in fact only one advantage of having shaft ..... which is .... that immediately after the day ride is finished you can have a beer straight away 😃
P.S. I just sold my GS 1250 and I am in the Ducati MTS Adventure market right now 🤩
Don't forget I discussed this once before and gave the benefits of the chain: ruclips.net/video/bxd4xK_TZ0g/видео.htmlsi=p4z9LZKDjs9JXYru
Good list Jeff. Not mentioned (although said indirectly) is a that a shaft drive would be preferable for off-road.
That is another consideration I would have to look into.
Umm I think that depends... If doing water crossings, water could potentially get into shaft drive oil and contaminate it. And water could maybe wash out grease from driveshaft on some bikes over time. With chain drive you can change gearing for your riding style, area, and preference. Most annoying thing about chain for me is adjusting it.
@@connor3288 do cars come to stanstill if their gearbox goes in water? just wondering
Perhaps when I grow up maybe I will consider a shaft drive. All great points Rembo! But what about the Belt drive?
I do miss my Indian belt drive. It was a great motorcycle and I loved it. Maybe a future video.
@@RemboUSMCI had a Buell with belt drive and no maintenance at all and last forever being Kevlar!
Unless you race all the time and everywhere, shaft drive is the best. ; you change the oil once a year. . .and your rear wheel stays clean. . And , in my experirnce, my 2; 750 Yamahas, XS and XJ; among chain driven curent air cooled 750, I always been the fastest. . not by much, but I was leading😉
Couldn’t agree more with your points even though I ride the Multi V4s.
Now only if Ducati would make a shaft drive Multistrada; that would be the best of both worlds.
They have already moved from the desmo valves to conventional ones - who’s to say this won’t happen in future.
Just saying 😂😂😂
Cheers
Pretty excellent thought for the V4S and Rally family but not the Pikes Peak or RS.
@@RemboUSMCAgree! Tourers need to have a shaft drive for just riding on. Kind of fill it, shut it and ride on.
Don’t forget, BMW will give you a new shaft for free with every purchases!
lol 😂 this
Wow !!, I can't find any flaws in your logic.
Why do I need a shaft drive so I can build a trike with a car rear end
The only problem is that it's very difficult to find a shaft drive on a light weight, inexpensive motorcycle.
Excellent point.
Numero Uno Reason... Moto Guzzi....
And yet, after all those excellent points, you still prefer chain drive? 🤔
I prefer whatever my favorite bike has when it comes from the factory.
But mentioning pros and no cons is unfair.
Loss of power comes to mind. Which is why you never see shaft drive bikes in races.
When a shaft drive malfunctions, which have happened to quite a few R11XX/12XX GS bikes, it will be rather pricey to repair.
Today chain drive can be with Regina chain and/or with automatic lubrication. This makes chains get very close to shaft drive in longevity (thinking about wear on the cross member).
Shaft drive without the Guzzi invented paralellogram add on will give rather much shaft reaction.
We could go on.
But in the end, I agree that shaft drive will be a lot less worrying to many people in ncomparison to the use of a chain.
I leave out belt drive due to the issues with leaving tarmac with that drive system.
You needed to watch the first video here: ruclips.net/video/bxd4xK_TZ0g/видео.htmlsi=p4z9LZKDjs9JXYru
@@RemboUSMC: Oh......I will watch that now.
Perhaps needn't be partet ................those two videos.
Thx!!