Tony provenzano and the Detroit mob had him killed. Tony and Hoffa were beefing about benefits and money Hoffa received but Tony didn’t due to a conviction and prison term, coupled with Hoffa not standing down and trying to get back as teamsters president and they had him killed. Chuckle O’Brien drove him to a house in suburban Detroit and the Detroit mob killed him and destroyed the body. A meeting with tony pro was how they set Hoffa up.
@@leemontoya8028 if anyone would know it would be the outfit since they controlled Hoffa and put the hit out on him. Sammy is so far removed from Hoffa he wouldn't have a clue just gossip he heard from others.
@@leemontoya8028 go back and read my comment. Of course I don't know it's called deduction. Hoffa wasn't ran by the new York families, the outfit controlled him therefore you can deduce that they were involved with the hit. The Gambino family wasn't involved so how the fuck would sammy know? Yeah I'm sure these wise guys talk amongst each other but no one knows what happened because these outfit guys were low key and disciplined and didn't talk about it. We know a lot of stories thanks to the feds and mob rats who talk about the life. No one knows what happened to Hoffa because the guys involved never talked about it thus no info. Since we know which organization was involved we can speculate which organization was involved but since the actual guys that hit him never talked we won't know the trigger man or the boss that gave the order. I like sammy and I like his stories but he can only speak about the era he was from.
Bottom line, no one really knows what happened to Hoffa and we probably never will. Most, if not all, of the people involved in his disappearance are dead.
How has our society come to this? Rewarding a man that killed 19 people and then snitched like Sammy “The Bull” Gravano as if he is some hero? Edit: people keep saying, “but he only killed other gangsters” though. Wrong! In 1977, 16-year-old Alan Kaiser was walking home when he saw Sammy in the area where a murder happened. He was shot as a witness. Gravano. In a 2019 video, he blamed Kaiser for his own death.
Have you taken a good look around at the current state of our society? All the Karen's, the Tik-Tok imbeciles, the drug-problems, the Influencers, the BLM-woke-diverse fools destroying the country. People looking for racism and other bullshit in every action? The clown that is running the White House at the moment ? And you complain about Sammy Gravano? :-( . to each her own I guess
@@ericvosselmans5657 lmao bro how did you connect someone complaining about how we view Sammy the bull to political stances and social media. Stretch before that reach my guy 😂
What Sammy doesn’t really want you to know, Hoffa was cremated and his ashes were placed inside a Shinebox on a hill overlooking a little river with pine cones all around.
i waited on him once at a restaurant in Scottsdale something like 20+ years ago. i was pretty sure it was him as i was approaching the table then he ordered a drink called a Brave Bull (kahlua & tequila), then i was positive it was him 😂
in the fifties my dad was pulled over in a new car for "low candle power" in a taillight ,and disappeared for ten days with the cops in Ontario. No one knew where he was. I was in the back seat, four years of age, and remember it like yesterday. in his case, he was litterate and had a really good BS filter, and the powers (Boise Cascade owned the Dryden mill) did NOT want him at a meeting on contracts. We left town, hit the pipeline, and ended up in California, where mom and dad became multi-millionaires running his own mech. shop and building affordable housing. F U Canada. FU cops; they take orders.
I think the mystery of Hoffa’s disappearance is almost like legend and folklore within the mob since everyone has a different story on how it happened. However I think they keep that mystery intentional though as to keep it a secret and the only people that are really still alive from that era that might have vague but accurate details are Franzese and Sammy and a handful of others.
The only people that know are the people who killed him. He hasn't been found because no one actually knew except the guys who did it. The amount of people who flipped definitely would have used that info to get a lighter sentence.
@@kanegarvey848 yeah because he got caught. Most murderers who get caught will admit it once they’re sentenced. Does that mean they all tell the truth about everything besides the thing they got caught for?
I believe Sammy is telling the truth about how the contract went down, but I believe the one aspect of the movie that can be accurate is how Jimmy's body was handled. In the film, Jimmy wasn't buried. Jimmy was cremated in the film. Maybe, that is why nobody ever found Jimmy Hoffa because the authorities have been searching for a body that doesn't exist anymore and hasn't since July 1975.
There are photos of Frank and Hoffa together. If Sammy is saying that the Irishman is not factual then I'm going with Sammy. The Irishman will always be a great film regardless
I like adam corrola but they were just reaching the entire interview like they had no idea what to talk about. Sammy of course saved the interview calm collected. These people have no idea about any of the players not sure why they even invited him?
Not Accused, accused was nice way to say it lmao. No Sammy personally confessed to and is confirmed to have participated in 19 killings during his criminal career.
I met Mr. Gravano two weeks before his troubles began in AZ. The guy is pretty smart and savvy I did not experience anything bad regarding him or his bodyguard.
Sounds like he's the kind of a guy that, if you treat him with respect, he'll do the same for you. Even Mafiaoso can be kind and generous. I'll say this, though:If they're not after somebody, then that somebody should never, ever, give them the reason to get somebody! These guys are like Hornets. If you leave the Hornet alone, chances are, you'll be fine. If ya make 'em mad at'cha, though, then watch out! They're very strict like that.
@@ronaldshank7589exactly. If you have no business with them, they'll interact with you just like anyone else, and yes, many of them are very generous and treat you well.
Sometimes our greatest character asset, can be the reason we fall. Jimmy Hoffa, never took no for an answer, and it made the Teamsters a strong union. Unfortunately that never take no for an answer, led to his death.
Hoffa started big time unions he put in the work to form them there was no way he was going to walk away or work for the mob. Hoffa went to jail and he never flipped on the mob but they felt that he might be a threat it probably wouldn't have happened but the mob couldn't chance it plus Hoffa wasn't crazy about Italian mobsters they were just wop's to Hoffa.
@@denniscerasoli6209 lmao how can you speak so confidently about something you know nothing about? He was not killed because they feared he would snitch. He was killed because the mafia was much more prosperous under his replacement in the Teamsters. They were able to get loans incredibly easily at no, or low interest rates. All the hoops Hoffa made them jump through, we’re gone. They also saw Hoffa as a loose cannon and unpredictable, and feared he would switch things back to the way it was. It’s alllll about money with the mob
@@jaytrock3217 I've seen many videos of other Mafia members, and when they are asking about Sammy they all say he's the real deal. The only ones who say he's a bullshiter are people who don't know him, and people who are not in the Mafia life.
I live in Louisville, Ky. My grandpa was the president of the teamsters here in the late 70's early 80's. My grandpa knew and dealt with Hoffa a few times in Chicago. He actually got in trouble for giving Hoffa 1,500 dollars. It's so crazy to think about.
My grandfather, WWII vet, dead now, was the VP of Steamfitters Local 318, Cape Girardeau, & he dealt with many mobbed up men, some of them 'made' guys in the Giordano Crime Family (St. Louis Family). I know how you feel.
Absolutely Crazy how no one knew any of the particulars about Hoffa’s disappearance or whereabouts yet this crumb knows the entire saga from start to finish…. Amazing!
Especially the part about Joe Gallo. There's no way the mafia would've sent an outsider to kill a high ranking loon like that, let alone just one guy who was a driver/body guard. Good movie though.
And that’s why it’s a movie versus a documentary… or should at least warn the ones that don’t understand that they shouldn’t believe the movie cause it’s loosely based on the real story
If this happened before the 90s he wouldn't be alive. The mafia evolved and realized they couldn't be out in the open with zero fucks given anymore. They are still dangerous but more behind the scenes crap going on than ever before.
@@sssbattleaxe to kill an old timer like Sammy or Francese when they are out of the life is just bringing unecessary heat to the gang and they already low in numbers.
When you really think of it Sherrhan’s version of what happened to Jimmy makes thee most sense. He trusted Frank and he was smart . If he were to be taken out it’d be by someone in his extremely small circle who would’ve been able to be close enough to take him out and make him disappear. The “Irishman” maybe lied about a lot of other things , but ladies and gents I fully believe the Hoffa went just like it did in that final moment the two share in the Irishman . It’s just Frank wasn’t a credible man and that’s why people don’t believe it .
Not buying it. Scorsese was warned by someone who knew about the mob better than most that it was fiction. He got to make another movie with his buddies. That's all.
Most likely, Hoffa was lured to the house in question, shot, his body moved to a nearby mob owned junk yard which also had an industrial incinerator, and, well...no more Hoffa. There was nothing left but ash, mixed in with industrial ash, later cleaned out and dumped in some random landfill. The end.
Two of the heavy hitters in the Detroit family owned funeral parlors with crematoriums. You can bet your house that Jimmy ended up in one of those 2 establishments and was cremated 30-45 min after the bullets entered his head.
Sammy just about tells the same tale that Sheerhan describes in his book and what happens in the movie, only difference is that there is disagreements on who actually pulled the trigger.I remember reading FBI agent William Roemer's book about Anthony Spilotro and he talked about Hoffa's disappearance. He pretty much said the same thing, that Hoffa was led to a meeting at a house in suburban Detroit and killed there, but he also added that Hoffa's body was taken to an automobile plant and Hoffa was dumped into hot chemical container, one that is used for producing the bodies of automobiles, and his body dissolved into liquid.
Bodies of cars aren’t made using any type of hot chemicals. They are made of stamped metal. MEK in the paint shop is the strongest solvent I know of and it’s a skin and eye irritant.
@@jesperb8626 This was the 1970s. They werent dipping any body panels in any chemical compounds. They did things on the cheap back then and cared little for anti-rust compounds. It was stamped sheet metal, primed and painted, with a clear coat. Pretty simple, cars were made cheaply back then.
Actually, the Irishman theory makes sense. He was a trusted friend Hoffa's. Isn't that how the mafia works ? Hoffa had to trust someone with his life in order to get into the car.
Every ex mafia on internet and in press said the Irish man did NOT kill Hoffa, also two other murders in his book he did not do. So he seems like a bullshitter.
He claimed he killed Hoffa because he was dying at the time and just released the book stating so...He wanted his family to get as much money as possible after he died,so he made up the story to sell books.
It blows my mind how these guys like Sammy the bull and a few others are out. They have serial killer numbers and just because they told on people they get out. The deal should be tell us what we want to know, and you get life instead of the death penalty
Nice suggestion but that wouldn't work, as many see life in prison as a death penalty. The incentive to talk in the first place is contingent upon freedom.
For the most part, the mafia didn't kill people at random like serial killers do. They killed other mafiosi, that were also murderers and career criminals. Besides, this was during a time when the FBI wanted to bring down the mafia at all costs, and they really, really, REALLY had a hard-on for John Gotti for laughing in their face every time he was acquitted. They wanted to bring down the mob more than they gave a shit about the few gangsters that Sammy Gravano killed.
The Irishman was a hitman for the Philly mob for 20 years and Hoffa's bodyguard for 15+ years. I think he would have a clue about what went down. Plus Hoffa disappeared in 1975, Sammy wasn't even a 'made man' yet.
Lmao yeah why would he elevate himself and put himself in the biggest mob hits of all time. Wouldn’t be to sell a book to be made into a movie would it? Nah criminals lie but movies don’t. 🤡
@@F28aj Frank Sheeran confessed on his death bed! He had no interest in a "movie"! I think I would believe an Enforcer who spent practically every day with Hoffa , over a guy who probably never met Hoffa in his life! And speaking of people trying to elevate themselves by talking about Hoffa,.... Sammy's making a living off of telling stories, isn't he?!! 🤡
I totally agree with you, DB Cooper. The Genovese Family gave the order and the Zerrelli Family took care of Hoffa! Either Hoffa got cremated or his body was dumped in Lake Michigan but no way in hell that body was taken out of the State of Michigan ! Just no way!! Too freakin risky!!!
To me, this sounds believable because he only spoke about the parts of the story that he actually knew about it. He didn’t claim he knew where the body was like every other former Mob recruit or captain out there. Sammy is very direct and to the point.
This goes to show you how different every human being is in this world. This man got popped with a charge that had he had no back, would have carried him more time when he went to court. He does his time and still has the opportunity to basically run the front of the office but has to only partner with another person, collect a mad weekly paycheck, and he bucks at them (The Commission 🤦🏾♂️) saying no its going back to exactly how it was before I got locked up. Me, personally would have thanked them for cutting me back in, and would have said that I would prefer to stay incognito as much as possible (as I just did time for Union business and don't want to be seen) to "keep up appearances." He had a golden ticket and still wanted to be greedy. Knowing what he knew about his business partners, and them telling him NO it's not going down like that yet he chooses to be a cowboy about it. More like a rodeo clown. It's like a 4 year old kid telling their parents no I'm not doing this and expect to skate with no repercussions.
There was a show about Hoffa and RFK back in the day. They're in an elevator, small talk, showing family pictures. Before they get out, Hoffa tells RFK, you don't know the kind of people your dealing with, they're not nice, or something like that. Well Jimmy neither did you. You dealt with them for how many years? You learnt precious little. Pride. Ego. Got you killed.
You gotta love how these guys dance around the murder questions. "I participated" that's as close as you're gonna get from him I'd bet. I've watched Michael Franzese get asked the same question and he dances around it never giving a solid yes or no. That's about all you'll get from him too I'd bet. No statute of limitations on murder.
Pretty much agrees with Franzese's account, except that Franzese suggests that Hoffa's body was put into a 55-gallon drum, filled with concrete, and dumped into the Detroit River. Both Sammy and Franzese acknowledge that a lot of people are making a lot of money, or did make a lot of money, trying to answer the question, "What happened to Jimmy Hoffa?" Including DeNiro and Scorsese.
EVERY mob informant claims to know "real Hoffa murder", yet EVERY one has different story...they all bullshit bc it's just a way for them to get interviewed and views
A cold blooded hitman for the Italian mafia sitting next to you talking casually like its all good. Geez i would get goosebumps just sitting next to that guy
Judges are letting criminals out, who then commit heinous crimes, left and right now. DAs wont prosecute in some cities. Some states and local governments are passing no bail laws, which allows criminals to get back on the streets to committ more crimes. America in some places is about to turn into a 1980s action movie, like RoboCop.
My friend related a story to me. A sheriff pulled over a friend of my friend who had bleeding taillights. Turned out it was dead animals in the trunk. He was driving home from a weekend hunting trip.
Personally, I think Sammy makes this up as he goes along. He can say anything. What are we going to do, hire a fact checker? As long as Sammy is making money and keeps people interested he'll just keep saying whatever pops into his mind.
@Michael-vs3ot The fuck I want from him would be honesty for starters. He's already a fascinating character who does not need to embellish his already interesting stories with fluff. Honesty is EVERYTHING as far as Sammy telling a story goes. I don't believe anyone wants to hear a made up tale full of lies and half truths. I can watch the news for that. The more honest Sammy indulges in the more interesting he becomes. But if he resorts to telling sagas then he becomes just another old man who exaggerates his stories the more he recounts them.
Only thing that never makes sense to me is killing someone in a home. It’s extremely difficult to destroy all evidence of a murder in a home. It’s very messy. The risk of blood and skull fragments being left behind is too high of a risk to take if you’re whacking someone. You also run the risk of having witnesses and someone hearing the gun shot. Killing someone in a car or boat makes more sense. Destroying a car or boat is a lot easier than cleaning a blood and skull fragments in a house. Its more work than the actual murder. It’s not a pretty picture.
You got a point there but how do you get a smart guy who knows the people around him are part of the mafia to sit in the car and drive off to a spot where nobody is around you? In the movie they tricked him with saying he will meet somebody and for that appointment a house is a spot where the person wouldn’t really get suspicious
And then went to the steel mill to be melted down and you might have been driving part of him. I like that story. It's much better than the story he was turned into sausage. Back then I remember getting little bone fragments in sausage. You'd bite into it and it was hard. Maybe it was even tooth it was so hard. Anyway, $1.60 a pound...
A little place in South Detroit zug island I believe is hoffas resting place. Huge steel melting going on there,gigantic pots of molten steel. A body would literally disapear in one. It's to close and to perfect
That is most likely what happened. He was hit at the house and then driven to an auto salvage yard where he was cremated and then dumped in the scrap pile or buried
The problem with your theories is that it takes several hours to cremate a body and in that time the authorities could easily go to that site. No I am afraid they probably did something more simplistic and probably did not kill him at the house and took him somewhere else.
this is a true story. I worked at the Gemini club in Ohio, it was a mob hang out and health spa. I used to go and pick up food for all the italian men, kind of like spider the kid from goodfellas. These old timers told me they killed hoffa and cremated him in a italian owned funeral parlor chain that actually is in that area he came up missing.
@@tylerfreal6472Cleveland and Youngstown were/are Mafia hotbeds. Cleveland started Vegas and Don King. Cleveland had a seat on the old commission. Carmine Agnello currently operates out of Cleveland. Your sarcastic comment is quite ignorant.
He literally said everything we already knew if you follow the Hoffa story. Skirted around who the shooter actually was. Obviously it was Cosa Nostra. Sammy admits to murders he’s done, and murders that took place around him. I Don’t think he even knows who the real shooter really was. Frank Sheeran does make the most sense being that he was the closest man to him that he trusted.
Even the Iceman claimed he killed Hoffa which is complete nonsense, many people claimed just for clout chasing. And Frank was not Italian and never did so many hits like he claimed in the movie book
The FBI account is basically exactly what was in the movie, minus the Irish guy. Tony Pro (Genovese) had his guy "Sally Bugs" do the actual work (the "crazy guy" Sammy alludes to).
And 2 brother androitti or something …wacked him at the beaverland st house in Detroit ,then he was taken to a mob ran funeral home on grand river ave and cremated. The red fox on telegraph isn’t that far of a drive down to 7 mile and grand river east to beaverland…for the meeting, once in house Badaboom,badabing …
I know we all probably think it's cool to hear about things like this, but I wonder how good it is to be elevating people like Sammy and giving them a platform to speak in such a way. The way he is casually asked at the end about 19 murders.... Like, that shouldn't be bragged about or promoted.
An old mobster said he was one of the guys that took out Hoffa. Since everyone involved was dead he explained how they put Hoffa in a car incinerator and that's why he was never found.
Sammy the Bull looks rough.... Honestly it makes most sense that Frank did it... Hoffa hated the mob guys aside from the old timers...he wouldn't have go into a meeting with those guys without someone he totally trusted,which was Frank... even if Frank didn't pull the trigger, he lured him there.
I can understand the concept no body no crime with low level murders. But in the case of Hoffa, if his body would of been found many people knew it was a hit to shut him up regarding the Teamsters money scandal. If he would of been left alive, Hoffa would of ratted on many High-level bosses. So, chopping his body up or feeding him into a whisper chipper would not of mattered. More likely Hoffa was killed then feed into a whisper chipper. Its fast. You have a person standing by with a pressure washer to clean up afterwards.
Yeah, we'll probably never find out where Hoffa is. Hell, the rumors were going on in Genessee County about him being buried here or there. One guy over a decade ago, from my small hometown, claimed he knew the body was buried under a red barn at some farm. I think the Flint Journal ran the story but nothing came of it of course.
I was 8 years old living just outside Detroit when that happened. I grew up in a Teamsters family and neighborhood. As the years went by, the one story that kept coming back was that he was in fact put in an incinerator. The fact that they've never found him in 50 years despite the fact that there have been several "he's over here" claims leads me to believe it. I have never believed the New Jersey story. No one is going to travel with a body in a van, trunk or whatever and run that risk. There were plenty of industrial sights in the Detroit area to get rid of a body. They will never find him because there's nothing left to find.
They are not telling you that they actually know exactly what happened. What they are telling is what they think happened. They clear in that assertion and they disagree with most of the theories out there which is what it sums up to. That does not mean you have to believe them.
I feel like the Hoffa thing is literally down to splitting hairs at this point. Sheehan was involved intricately, now whether he pulled the trigger can be debated, but the bulk of it appears to be the closest to the truth to date. Sammy be back on that molly supplied by his son it looks like.
Sammy got the Hoffa story wrong. Hoffa's friend the irishman explained something that no else knew is where hoffa's blood was found. He said he shot him as soon as he walked in the door, decades later, they dug up the floor and found the blood stained old wood floor exactly how and where he said it would be. The two guys that were hired took him, cremated him never to be found. He said he had to be there cause Hoffa would not have gone anywhere where he thought he would be killed,, he only went cause he never suspected his best friend. Thats how they got him to the house.
It never will stop amazing me that society let him get back on his feet. You people ever think what it would be like to be in a room with a guy like that? If you had something he wanted? Its all interesting and exciting until someone like this enters your reality
He did his time though and here's the thing; when it's personal, it's never enough time but for most people, when it ain't personal, they can't be released fast enough. We do have laws in this land and I hope that if I ever go down for X, Y or Z that I can serve my time and know that I did the thing, know it's been done and try to go and do better is a good thing. Same for you. No one is perfect. We should be able to get back up and make amends, serve our time and move forward. There's no better system.
@@whateverittakes1673 Your absolutely right. However he is making money off of his stories and idk how you could do that and grow into a different person at the same time. I cant debate with anything you said. It just messes with me that as time goes by society glorifies people like this more and more.
@@soultosqueeze1853 bro the guy is pushing 80. Sammy’s lived his life and now he’s telling his story. It’s no different to a ‘Nam vet telling his stories about how he helped burn down villages and kill civilians… No less disturbing yet one is ‘legal’ and the other is illegal. If Sammy was like 40 and possibly still making dirty money, then… yeah I guess it might be a bit much, especially if he was gloating about unsolved murders. But no he’s 70 something and doesn’t talk loose
every mob guy claims to know what happened to hoffa, and they all have a different story.
Tony provenzano and the Detroit mob had him killed. Tony and Hoffa were beefing about benefits and money Hoffa received but Tony didn’t due to a conviction and prison term, coupled with Hoffa not standing down and trying to get back as teamsters president and they had him killed. Chuckle O’Brien drove him to a house in suburban Detroit and the Detroit mob killed him and destroyed the body. A meeting with tony pro was how they set Hoffa up.
I think if anyone might know, that would be Sammy.
@@leemontoya8028 if anyone would know it would be the outfit since they controlled Hoffa and put the hit out on him. Sammy is so far removed from Hoffa he wouldn't have a clue just gossip he heard from others.
@@shawnz5272 So your saying you know more about Hoffa then Sammy? Are you a Captain or a Boss in a family? And if so what family are you in?
@@leemontoya8028 go back and read my comment. Of course I don't know it's called deduction. Hoffa wasn't ran by the new York families, the outfit controlled him therefore you can deduce that they were involved with the hit. The Gambino family wasn't involved so how the fuck would sammy know? Yeah I'm sure these wise guys talk amongst each other but no one knows what happened because these outfit guys were low key and disciplined and didn't talk about it.
We know a lot of stories thanks to the feds and mob rats who talk about the life. No one knows what happened to Hoffa because the guys involved never talked about it thus no info. Since we know which organization was involved we can speculate which organization was involved but since the actual guys that hit him never talked we won't know the trigger man or the boss that gave the order.
I like sammy and I like his stories but he can only speak about the era he was from.
Bottom line, no one really knows what happened to Hoffa and we probably never will. Most, if not all, of the people involved in his disappearance are dead.
A few people in Detroit knew. That was the last place he was seen alive
Or are they?
That's how a conspiracy works.
I'm sure the truth has been said but because of how many years rumors where going around and thrown into pop culture, no one will know.
Are you deaf and blind. Sammy just said what happened. What else do you need to know?
How has our society come to this? Rewarding a man that killed 19 people and then snitched like Sammy “The Bull” Gravano as if he is some hero?
Edit: people keep saying, “but he only killed other gangsters” though. Wrong! In 1977, 16-year-old Alan Kaiser was walking home when he saw Sammy in the area where a murder happened. He was shot as a witness. Gravano. In a 2019 video, he blamed Kaiser for his own death.
Funny n sad to see hardcore gangsters turn into grifters
Have you taken a good look around at the current state of our society? All the Karen's, the Tik-Tok imbeciles, the drug-problems, the Influencers, the BLM-woke-diverse fools destroying the country. People looking for racism and other bullshit in every action? The clown that is running the White House at the moment ?
And you complain about Sammy Gravano? :-( . to each her own I guess
This is an absolutely valid take.
I personally would not have invited him either.
Yeah but the real question is… Insidious vidz who the fuck are you?
@@ericvosselmans5657 lmao bro how did you connect someone complaining about how we view Sammy the bull to political stances and social media. Stretch before that reach my guy 😂
What Sammy doesn’t really want you to know, Hoffa was cremated and his ashes were placed inside a Shinebox on a hill overlooking a little river with pine cones all around.
Another stupid shinebox reference
@@nathanb6037 and sopranos reference... Wich went over your head
Jimmy Hoffa never had the makings of a varsity athlete
@@nathanb6037 Charles Schwab ova here.
@@nathanb6037 what a dummy🤦🤦
Sammy the Bull is the biggest “New Yorker” in all of Arizona
It’s amazing this guy is still alive honestly
i waited on him once at a restaurant in Scottsdale something like 20+ years ago. i was pretty sure it was him as i was approaching the table then he ordered a drink called a Brave Bull (kahlua & tequila), then i was positive it was him 😂
Yea mate , the good mail is , he takes fish-oil
His a RAT
@@romangarcia608 was he a good tipper lolol
@@Charsi_Escobar from what i remember, this was ‘95 or ‘96 - i’m just glad he didn’t whack me out for taking too long with the drinks or something.
The bleeding taillight line from Adam got me.
Slipped that in there
🤣🤣
Thanks, now I get it.....
I have no idea why people even give this Sammy guy the time of day.
He put the Gotti's out of business...
He’s a living piece of history regardless of his informant status. Guy really loved the life.
He is no different than the Clinton's
Exactly!!
Because he is great to listen to
"You could get pulled over for a bleeding taillight".
🤣 You're killin' me!
Hysterical !!
Wow. that was a solid 3 minutes
@@guitarman6742 Adam is fearless in the face of death. 😆 🤣 😂
No he killin Hoffa…
in the fifties my dad was pulled over in a new car for "low candle power" in a taillight ,and disappeared for ten days with the cops in Ontario. No one knew where he was. I was in the back seat, four years of age, and remember it like yesterday. in his case, he was litterate and had a really good BS filter, and the powers (Boise Cascade owned the Dryden mill) did NOT want him at a meeting on contracts. We left town, hit the pipeline, and ended up in California, where mom and dad became multi-millionaires running his own mech. shop and building affordable housing. F U Canada. FU cops; they take orders.
I think the mystery of Hoffa’s disappearance is almost like legend and folklore within the mob since everyone has a different story on how it happened. However I think they keep that mystery intentional though as to keep it a secret and the only people that are really still alive from that era that might have vague but accurate details are Franzese and Sammy and a handful of others.
The only people that know are the people who killed him. He hasn't been found because no one actually knew except the guys who did it. The amount of people who flipped definitely would have used that info to get a lighter sentence.
Sammy been telling stories his whole life
Fake ones
I think fake was implied.
@@julietrask7497 don't think the stories of him committing murder are fake.
Oh god… still can’t shut his mouth
@@kanegarvey848 yeah because he got caught. Most murderers who get caught will admit it once they’re sentenced. Does that mean they all tell the truth about everything besides the thing they got caught for?
I believe Sammy is telling the truth about how the contract went down, but I believe the one aspect of the movie that can be accurate is how Jimmy's body was handled. In the film, Jimmy wasn't buried. Jimmy was cremated in the film. Maybe, that is why nobody ever found Jimmy Hoffa because the authorities have been searching for a body that doesn't exist anymore and hasn't since July 1975.
I always suspected that his body was dumped in one of the great lakes.
I always suspected that his body was dumped in one of the great lakes.
There are photos of Frank and Hoffa together. If Sammy is saying that the Irishman is not factual then I'm going with Sammy. The Irishman will always be a great film regardless
michael franzese has said that hoffas body was hidden “somewhere very wet”
The Mafia are remarkably good at hiding bodies.....
Says: “So you have 19 people that you are accused of murdering”
Sammy: “Who the f**k starts a conversation like that!”
Yeah i cringed when he said that
Sammy: Guess you wanna be the 20th..
I bet that would've shut him up real fast.
I like adam corrola but they were just reaching the entire interview like they had no idea what to talk about. Sammy of course saved the interview calm collected. These people have no idea about any of the players not sure why they even invited him?
Not Accused, accused was nice way to say it lmao. No Sammy personally confessed to and is confirmed to have participated in 19 killings during his criminal career.
Adam Corolla is an actual a-hole.
I've seen hundreds of standup acts and he is the only one I've seen walk off without introducing the next comic
I met Mr. Gravano two weeks before his troubles began in AZ. The guy is pretty smart and savvy I did not experience anything bad regarding him or his bodyguard.
you didn't have something he wanted.
Sounds like he's the kind of a guy that, if you treat him with respect, he'll do the same for you. Even Mafiaoso can be kind and generous.
I'll say this, though:If they're not after somebody, then that somebody should never, ever, give them the reason to get somebody! These guys are like Hornets. If you leave the Hornet alone, chances are, you'll be fine. If ya make 'em mad at'cha, though, then watch out!
They're very strict like that.
@@ronaldshank7589exactly. If you have no business with them, they'll interact with you just like anyone else, and yes, many of them are very generous and treat you well.
Sometimes our greatest character asset, can be the reason we fall. Jimmy Hoffa, never took no for an answer, and it made the Teamsters a strong union. Unfortunately that never take no for an answer, led to his death.
As Mice Tysun's trainer Gus Tomato said 'Your greatest strength is your greatest weakness'
Gus Tomato Lmfaoooooooo
@@KyleLutzTV 😂right wtf is that
Hoffa started big time unions he put in the work to form them there was no way he was going to walk away or work for the mob. Hoffa went to jail and he never flipped on the mob but they felt that he might be a threat it probably wouldn't have happened but the mob couldn't chance it plus Hoffa wasn't crazy about Italian mobsters they were just wop's to Hoffa.
@@denniscerasoli6209 lmao how can you speak so confidently about something you know nothing about? He was not killed because they feared he would snitch. He was killed because the mafia was much more prosperous under his replacement in the Teamsters. They were able to get loans incredibly easily at no, or low interest rates. All the hoops Hoffa made them jump through, we’re gone. They also saw Hoffa as a loose cannon and unpredictable, and feared he would switch things back to the way it was. It’s alllll about money with the mob
I don’t understand why people have this weird idea that they would bury Hoffa under a stadium.
Donald “Tony the Greek” Frankos claimed it. It caught on because the mob controlled concrete poured in Giants stadium which was done that year.
Steel furnace!!
Remember, though:It could be true. Not saying that it is, but-In this life, there can truly be some surprises!
What goes under the stadiums is tunnels that they tr**fik children…😢
If this guy doesn't watch what he says, it's going to be 20 people Sammy has participated in killing.
Sammy is a shit talker. That is why no cares enough to kill. They rather him just talk because most of what he says is lies.
@@jaytrock3217 I've seen many videos of other Mafia members, and when they are asking about Sammy they all say he's the real deal. The only ones who say he's a bullshiter are people who don't know him, and people who are not in the Mafia life.
@@jaytrock3217 bro...you have no idea what you are talking about
Yaa wat a way to break the ice ...so u killed 19 ppl 😬😰🥵🤕☠
@@jaytrock3217 Jay…it’s time to hit the trail to metuchen..
I love how whenever the woman says anything, he looks at her like "who let you talk bitch?" 😂😂
Aren’t we all?
@@StuffedBearSus lol savage
She's gotta Huge RACK tho
I was thinking the same thing , u know he is really annoyed by her
Who is she? Is she part of this podcast group?
Frank 'Fitz' Fitzsimmons. That's who the new President of the Teamsters was, whom Sammy is referring to.
I live in Louisville, Ky. My grandpa was the president of the teamsters here in the late 70's early 80's. My grandpa knew and dealt with Hoffa a few times in Chicago. He actually got in trouble for giving Hoffa 1,500 dollars. It's so crazy to think about.
My grandfather, WWII vet, dead now, was the VP of Steamfitters Local 318, Cape Girardeau, & he dealt with many mobbed up men, some of them 'made' guys in the Giordano Crime Family (St. Louis Family). I know how you feel.
Yes.
Fritz n his son almost died so you know jimmy hoffa had to die
The guy who took Hoffa's place was Gene Fitzsimmons. I'm impressed with how well spoken Gravano is.
Frank Fitzsimmons was his name
Fitz was a rubber stamp for the mob
Absolutely Crazy how no one knew any of the particulars about Hoffa’s disappearance or whereabouts yet this crumb knows the entire saga from start to finish…. Amazing!
Fitzsimmons was the guy who took his place.
He liked to play a lot of fuckin golf.
Yes he was.
And you know this cuz you were there right?
Yeah Adam it’s 19. But if you push Sammy, I am sure he’d be happy to make it 20.
lol
Then he'd rat on someone
Lol threatening someone on behalf of a decrepit old mobster is as gay as it gets
@@865style they're all rats. There is NO HONOR in that life. Nobody in it is better than the other guy.
That ended awkwardly...
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I have the feeling that even in the mob very few would know the real events,and those few are taking that to their grave.
For the best take on this I recommend The OG Podcast. " Old Gangster" The hosts
of the show are incredible!
"Bleeding taillight." LMAO
I think most folks know that ‘The Irishman’ is not factually accurate.
Especially the part about Joe Gallo. There's no way the mafia would've sent an outsider to kill a high ranking loon like that, let alone just one guy who was a driver/body guard. Good movie though.
And that’s why it’s a movie versus a documentary… or should at least warn the ones that don’t understand that they shouldn’t believe the movie cause it’s loosely based on the real story
It’s somewhat amazing this guy is out of prison and free to enjoy his life.
If this happened before the 90s he wouldn't be alive. The mafia evolved and realized they couldn't be out in the open with zero fucks given anymore. They are still dangerous but more behind the scenes crap going on than ever before.
Without his testimony John Gotti would have possibly walked free
They are still green lighted but no one gives a shit anymore the mafia is different now
@@sssbattleaxe to kill an old timer like Sammy or Francese when they are out of the life is just bringing unecessary heat to the gang and they already low in numbers.
That's what leverage against the fed gets you
When you really think of it Sherrhan’s version of what happened to Jimmy makes thee most sense. He trusted Frank and he was smart . If he were to be taken out it’d be by someone in his extremely small circle who would’ve been able to be close enough to take him out and make him disappear. The “Irishman” maybe lied about a lot of other things , but ladies and gents I fully believe the Hoffa went just like it did in that final moment the two share in the Irishman . It’s just Frank wasn’t a credible man and that’s why people don’t believe it .
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
Not buying it. Scorsese was warned by someone who knew about the mob better than most that it was fiction. He got to make another movie with his buddies. That's all.
Most likely, Hoffa was lured to the house in question, shot, his body moved to a nearby mob owned junk yard which also had an industrial incinerator, and, well...no more Hoffa. There was nothing left but ash, mixed in with industrial ash, later cleaned out and dumped in some random landfill. The end.
That's what I've always said, they'd never drive his dead body any long distance
Two of the heavy hitters in the Detroit family owned funeral parlors with crematoriums. You can bet your house that Jimmy ended up in one of those 2 establishments and was cremated 30-45 min after the bullets entered his head.
@@ascendant95 Absolutely
Love the podcast and this episode especially Adam but why’s the video quality only 360p (standard definition)?
Sammy just about tells the same tale that Sheerhan describes in his book and what happens in the movie, only difference is that there is disagreements on who actually pulled the trigger.I remember reading FBI agent William Roemer's book about Anthony Spilotro and he talked about Hoffa's disappearance. He pretty much said the same thing, that Hoffa was led to a meeting at a house in suburban Detroit and killed there, but he also added that Hoffa's body was taken to an automobile plant and Hoffa was dumped into hot chemical container, one that is used for producing the bodies of automobiles, and his body dissolved into liquid.
Roemer was a great read!
Bodies of cars aren’t made using any type of hot chemicals. They are made of stamped metal. MEK in the paint shop is the strongest solvent I know of and it’s a skin and eye irritant.
@@drewreid1313 you have dip those metal panels into chemicals though...he didn't say they smelted jimmy hoffa into a car lol jesus
@@jesperb8626 This was the 1970s. They werent dipping any body panels in any chemical compounds. They did things on the cheap back then and cared little for anti-rust compounds. It was stamped sheet metal, primed and painted, with a clear coat. Pretty simple, cars were made cheaply back then.
@@dezznutz3743 thank you for that knowledge
Actually, the Irishman theory makes sense. He was a trusted friend Hoffa's. Isn't that how the mafia works ? Hoffa had to trust someone with his life in order to get into the car.
Every ex mafia on internet and in press said the Irish man did NOT kill Hoffa, also two other murders in his book he did not do. So he seems like a bullshitter.
Yeah, well, I am not sure I believe ex-mafia. They contradict themselves as well. Guess we will never know.
He claimed he killed Hoffa because he was dying at the time and just released the book stating so...He wanted his family to get as much money as possible after he died,so he made up the story to sell books.
Exactly
Sammy is full of tall tails. Frank Sheeran admitted to killing Hoffa before his death and had absolutely no reason to lie about it..
It blows my mind how these guys like Sammy the bull and a few others are out. They have serial killer numbers and just because they told on people they get out. The deal should be tell us what we want to know, and you get life instead of the death penalty
Nice suggestion but that wouldn't work, as many see life in prison as a death penalty. The incentive to talk in the first place is contingent upon freedom.
Killin other killers gets you a lighter sentence for saving the tax payers the headache 🤷♂️
@@spfdff he killed a lot of people that weren’t killers. He also ratted on a lot of people whose last names weren’t Gotti.
For the most part, the mafia didn't kill people at random like serial killers do. They killed other mafiosi, that were also murderers and career criminals. Besides, this was during a time when the FBI wanted to bring down the mafia at all costs, and they really, really, REALLY had a hard-on for John Gotti for laughing in their face every time he was acquitted. They wanted to bring down the mob more than they gave a shit about the few gangsters that Sammy Gravano killed.
yeah but it's not as though the man is a deranged psycho with an uncontrollable urge to kill, he was a paid hit man and is not really a threat
The Irishman was a hitman for the Philly mob for 20 years and Hoffa's bodyguard for 15+ years. I think he would have a clue about what went down.
Plus Hoffa disappeared in 1975, Sammy wasn't even a 'made man' yet.
Lmao yeah why would he elevate himself and put himself in the biggest mob hits of all time. Wouldn’t be to sell a book to be made into a movie would it? Nah criminals lie but movies don’t. 🤡
@@F28aj shit, it worked! Won a bunch of awards too 😂
@@F28aj Frank Sheeran confessed on his death bed! He had no interest in a "movie"!
I think I would believe an Enforcer who spent practically every day with Hoffa , over a guy who probably never met Hoffa in his life!
And speaking of people trying to elevate themselves by talking about Hoffa,.... Sammy's making a living off of telling stories, isn't he?!!
🤡
Every single ex-Mafia guy that was ever asked about "The Irishman" all say the same thing --- that movie was complete BS. 100% fablicrated.
The Detroit mob killed him and cremated the body in one of many funeral homes they owned.
I have heard that before.
That seems to be the most believable scenario. The whole Irishman scenerio is pure fantasy. All of the wiseguys at least agree on that.
@@johnmacdonald5483 💯
I totally agree with you, DB Cooper. The Genovese Family gave the order and the Zerrelli Family took care of Hoffa! Either Hoffa got cremated or his body was dumped in Lake Michigan but no way in hell that body was taken out of the State of Michigan ! Just no way!! Too freakin risky!!!
Probably the best way to get rid of a body
Sammy tells a good story
All rats do
He’s a gross dude.
I bet john gotti didnt think so
Story is correct.
@@bradbutcher3984 how the fuck do you know????🧐🤨🤪
This is the third "What Really Happened to Jimmy Hoffa" video I've watched today. So far, three different stories. On to the next.
To me, this sounds believable because he only spoke about the parts of the story that he actually knew about it. He didn’t claim he knew where the body was like every other former Mob recruit or captain out there. Sammy is very direct and to the point.
Really gon believe this guy? U must be real gullible smh
@@wee7750 was you there? Can you refute anything that he said?! If not, then keep your rude comments to yourself.✌🏾
@@v.jenkins5834 We can. Sammy was made a year after Hoffa disappeared. How would he of known?
@@joshuabryant9845and?! That doesn’t mean he couldn’t of heard some of Mob talkin about it at some point.
He read a book or saw a movie and said same thing. Didn't answer anything
It seemed like Adam was scared shitless of the old man. But we all know Sammy ain't no ordinary old man. Love Sammy .
This goes to show you how different every human being is in this world. This man got popped with a charge that had he had no back, would have carried him more time when he went to court.
He does his time and still has the opportunity to basically run the front of the office but has to only partner with another person, collect a mad weekly paycheck, and he bucks at them (The Commission 🤦🏾♂️) saying no its going back to exactly how it was before I got locked up.
Me, personally would have thanked them for cutting me back in, and would have said that I would prefer to stay incognito as much as possible (as I just did time for Union business and don't want to be seen) to "keep up appearances."
He had a golden ticket and still wanted to be greedy. Knowing what he knew about his business partners, and them telling him NO it's not going down like that yet he chooses to be a cowboy about it. More like a rodeo clown. It's like a 4 year old kid telling their parents no I'm not doing this and expect to skate with no repercussions.
Ego makes men do wildly stupid things. Hoffa couldn’t fathom not being the center of attention
@@Chris-nm8so exactly!
There was a show about Hoffa and RFK back in the day. They're in an elevator, small talk, showing family pictures. Before they get out, Hoffa tells RFK, you don't know the kind of people your dealing with, they're not nice, or something like that. Well Jimmy neither did you. You dealt with them for how many years? You learnt precious little. Pride. Ego. Got you killed.
You gotta love how these guys dance around the murder questions. "I participated" that's as close as you're gonna get from him I'd bet. I've watched Michael Franzese get asked the same question and he dances around it never giving a solid yes or no. That's about all you'll get from him too I'd bet. No statute of limitations on murder.
Well sammy confessed to those murdered and has immunity Michael doesn’t if he says something about murder he can get arrested and charged
He mostly says that because he often wasn’t the one pulling the trigger
Sammy’s confessed to the murders already, he’s not trying to avoid charges here.
@@ultrafly100 Yeah to some, but if they discover he has more bodies on him, they can result in new charges. That's why they do the dance.
@@rapartist9309 Key word, "known" ones that he participated in. There may be others.
Sammy is a great story teller, listen to his podcast "our thing" it amazing.
Even Hoffa doesn’t know what happened to Hoffa
Sammy seems very nervous. I don’t think this multi panel format works well for him. The solo podcast fits his detailed, narrative delivery.
he is shy in front of the girls
Bc he can control the narrative solo. Doing it solo means he can tell it his way w/o anyone questioning what he says.
I could listen to this man all day
Obviously, nobody you care about is one of the 19 murdered
@@georgemoomaw9437 I think Jesse was talking about Adam
@@georgemoomaw9437 I agree.. people who glorify people like Sammy are insane. He's killed more people than most serial killers.
@Jesse dukelacrosse You need to go to church young man a grow some morals.
"So you killed 19 people..."
That's not what he said. pay attention! especially if your driving!
Sammy is great to listen to. Regardless of his terrible crimes.
Problem is, you simply can’t take any of these guys seriously.
Pretty much agrees with Franzese's account, except that Franzese suggests that Hoffa's body was put into a 55-gallon drum, filled with concrete, and dumped into the Detroit River. Both Sammy and Franzese acknowledge that a lot of people are making a lot of money, or did make a lot of money, trying to answer the question, "What happened to Jimmy Hoffa?" Including DeNiro and Scorsese.
I’ll buy that.
I thought franzese said he knew but wasn’t going to say. Where did he say this?
EVERY mob informant claims to know "real Hoffa murder", yet EVERY one has different story...they all bullshit bc it's just a way for them to get interviewed and views
Neither Gravano nor Franzese know anything about Hoffa. No one alive does.
@@jayslater7017 He said he was underwater in a drum recently.
Michael franzese mentioned it slightly , but he did state no one officially knows, just guesswork. Its believed hes swimming with the fishes.
People know. But we aren't allowed to know.
all michael said and insisted, is that he's wet. lol
I know but I refuse to say anything unless you send $10,000 to me in Bitloines
@@clearlinelogistics2550 I know you know I know you know so send me half of that 10k
You know you're a mobster if you say "well I didn't kill 19 people, I was involved in 19 deaths."
A cold blooded hitman for the Italian mafia sitting next to you talking casually like its all good. Geez i would get goosebumps just sitting next to that guy
It’s all about story, everybody loves a compelling story whether good or bad
Why don’t you guys ever talk about Russell Bufalino or the fact that he’s the one who killed Joe Gallo.
Because he didn’t lol
Bro wtf you talkinf bout
Correction not killed personally but had Frank do it!
@@davidjones6502 the Irishman story was a load of shit as you’re obviously referring to that
@@davidjones6502 Frank Sheeran did not kill Joe Gallo.
Came here to see the pinky ring.
I can't believe this guy is out of prison.
I can... Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Judges are letting criminals out, who then commit heinous crimes, left and right now. DAs wont prosecute in some cities. Some states and local governments are passing no bail laws, which allows criminals to get back on the streets to committ more crimes.
America in some places is about to turn into a 1980s action movie, like RoboCop.
"A bleeding taillight" LMAO... I wasn't ready for that.
I've got a photo of my grandfather with Hoffa.
My friend related a story to me.
A sheriff pulled over a friend of my friend who had bleeding taillights.
Turned out it was dead animals in the trunk.
He was driving home from a weekend hunting trip.
Hard to take his word for anything . Once u tell on someone your credibility is gone
It’s easy to book Sammy for a podcast , as long as you provide a pound of cheese!
Ohhhhhhh ohhhhhhhh ohhhhhhh that is the truth
Personally, I think Sammy makes this up as he goes along. He can say anything. What are we going to do, hire a fact checker? As long as Sammy is making money and keeps people interested he'll just keep saying whatever pops into his mind.
@Michael-vs3ot The fuck I want from him would be honesty for starters. He's already a fascinating character who does not need to embellish his already interesting stories with fluff.
Honesty is EVERYTHING as far as Sammy telling a story goes. I don't believe anyone wants to hear a made up tale full of lies and half truths. I can watch the news for that. The more honest Sammy indulges in the more interesting he becomes. But if he resorts to telling sagas then he becomes just another old man who exaggerates his stories the more he recounts them.
Only thing that never makes sense to me is killing someone in a home. It’s extremely difficult to destroy all evidence of a murder in a home. It’s very messy. The risk of blood and skull fragments being left behind is too high of a risk to take if you’re whacking someone. You also run the risk of having witnesses and someone hearing the gun shot.
Killing someone in a car or boat makes more sense. Destroying a car or boat is a lot easier than cleaning a blood and skull fragments in a house. Its more work than the actual murder. It’s not a pretty picture.
You got a point there but how do you get a smart guy who knows the people around him are part of the mafia to sit in the car and drive off to a spot where nobody is around you? In the movie they tricked him with saying he will meet somebody and for that appointment a house is a spot where the person wouldn’t really get suspicious
I thought they put Jimmy in the car after killing him and removed the rear end and the engine. The car went into a car crusher and came out as a cube.
And then went to the steel mill to be melted down and you might have been driving part of him. I like that story. It's much better than the story he was turned into sausage. Back then I remember getting little bone fragments in sausage. You'd bite into it and it was hard. Maybe it was even tooth it was so hard. Anyway, $1.60 a pound...
I always herd is buried in the endzone at fuants stadium
Why would they do all that?? They were much more simpler than these dumb theories. Dude is in a Lake somewhere Simple
@Todd Willis lol
A little place in South Detroit zug island I believe is hoffas resting place. Huge steel melting going on there,gigantic pots of molten steel. A body would literally disapear in one. It's to close and to perfect
Sammy knows less about the Hoffa killing than I do.
Sammy was a mob boss so it is hard to say what he knows.
Someone once said that jimmy was cremated within 3 miles of the hit house just saying.!.
Yeah but this guy was high up so if anyone would know it would be him
That is most likely what happened. He was hit at the house and then driven to an auto salvage yard where he was cremated and then dumped in the scrap pile or buried
That's what I heard.
Something like that makes the most sense...simple and effective, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
The problem with your theories is that it takes several hours to cremate a body and in that time the authorities could easily go to that site.
No I am afraid they probably did something more simplistic and probably did not kill him at the house and took him somewhere else.
Back in 70s and 80s in every truck stop toilet someone wrote, "JIMMY HOFFA CALL YOUR DISPATCHER".
360p? We do 360p now?
this is a true story. I worked at the Gemini club in Ohio, it was a mob hang out and health spa. I used to go and pick up food for all the italian men, kind of like spider the kid from goodfellas. These old timers told me they killed hoffa and cremated him in a italian owned funeral parlor chain that actually is in that area he came up missing.
Giacalone?
ahh yeah the good old ohio outfit
Fantasist 🤣🤣🤣
@@tylerfreal6472Cleveland and Youngstown were/are Mafia hotbeds. Cleveland started Vegas and Don King. Cleveland had a seat on the old commission. Carmine Agnello currently operates out of Cleveland. Your sarcastic comment is quite ignorant.
People lie
He literally said everything we already knew if you follow the Hoffa story. Skirted around who the shooter actually was. Obviously it was Cosa Nostra. Sammy admits to murders he’s done, and murders that took place around him. I Don’t think he even knows who the real shooter really was. Frank Sheeran does make the most sense being that he was the closest man to him that he trusted.
You mean participated
Even the Iceman claimed he killed Hoffa which is complete nonsense, many people claimed just for clout chasing. And Frank was not Italian and never did so many hits like he claimed in the movie book
Hmm I’ve heard both Franzese and Sammy say that the hit came from the genovese family
blame a family that is no longer a family. "yeah excellent idea"
I wonder why no one will say what really happened without saying who did it
Sheeran was absolutely the one that did it. Scorsese didn’t get the bankroll he needed to do the whole story. The audiobook is a must listen.
The FBI account is basically exactly what was in the movie, minus the Irish guy. Tony Pro (Genovese) had his guy "Sally Bugs" do the actual work (the "crazy guy" Sammy alludes to).
And 2 brother androitti or something …wacked him at the beaverland st house in Detroit ,then he was taken to a mob ran funeral home on grand river ave and cremated. The red fox on telegraph isn’t that far of a drive down to 7 mile and grand river east to beaverland…for the meeting, once in house Badaboom,badabing …
I bet sammy felt safe in there because of all the microphones and that this was being recorded.
I gaurantee u would tell him to his face Sammy always carried a pistol with him buddy and wouldn't give to fucks about a punk kid
@@josephsanchez5987 you his lover bro?? Or your pops?? You're acting all sensitive and defensive 😂😂
I know we all probably think it's cool to hear about things like this, but I wonder how good it is to be elevating people like Sammy and giving them a platform to speak in such a way. The way he is casually asked at the end about 19 murders.... Like, that shouldn't be bragged about or promoted.
An old mobster said he was one of the guys that took out Hoffa. Since everyone involved was dead he explained how they put Hoffa in a car incinerator and that's why he was never found.
Remember his name? So many stories out there about his disappearance
“You could get pulled over for having a bleeding taillight.” Hahahaha
It’s not about who killed him but where his body is. Thanks for nothing.
Sammy the Bull looks rough.... Honestly it makes most sense that Frank did it... Hoffa hated the mob guys aside from the old timers...he wouldn't have go into a meeting with those guys without someone he totally trusted,which was Frank... even if Frank didn't pull the trigger, he lured him there.
How is this guy even out of jail? Anyone?
Every Italian guy that I sit next to at a bar says he knows where Jimmy Hoffa is.
I can understand the concept no body no crime with low level murders. But in the case of Hoffa, if his body would of been found many people knew it was a hit to shut him up regarding the Teamsters money scandal. If he would of been left alive, Hoffa would of ratted on many High-level bosses. So, chopping his body up or feeding him into a whisper chipper would not of mattered. More likely Hoffa was killed then feed into a whisper chipper. Its fast. You have a person standing by with a pressure washer to clean up afterwards.
Didnt he dismember bodies.hes evil
Yes this man is evil. I would never want to be that close to him. To my knowledge he is not sorry for any of his crimes.
yea and it was his own brother in law who he killed (his wife’s brother…)
@daniel Reynosa , hasn't our government killed thousand's of innocent people during war for example? But we still love our country
@@jessedukelacrosse6470 oh man stfu
@@curragh4635 truth hurts huh
Sammy got a point. To kill someone in Detroit and haul them all the wall back to New York is stupid
I wouldn't do that!
@pojo 10 well I wouldn't say that!
Almost a thing is possible. If u can think of it, somebody will try it (stupid or not).
You say stupid! but what is wall back?
@Écrivain You must! you replied!
Yeah, we'll probably never find out where Hoffa is. Hell, the rumors were going on in Genessee County about him being buried here or there. One guy over a decade ago, from my small hometown, claimed he knew the body was buried under a red barn at some farm. I think the Flint Journal ran the story but nothing came of it of course.
michael franzese says hoffa is under a lot of water so ...yeah we'll never know looks like
I was 8 years old living just outside Detroit when that happened. I grew up in a Teamsters family and neighborhood. As the years went by, the one story that kept coming back was that he was in fact put in an incinerator. The fact that they've never found him in 50 years despite the fact that there have been several "he's over here" claims leads me to believe it. I have never believed the New Jersey story. No one is going to travel with a body in a van, trunk or whatever and run that risk. There were plenty of industrial sights in the Detroit area to get rid of a body. They will never find him because there's nothing left to find.
Sammy was pretty low level at the time that Hoffa went missing. I have my doubts that he would have knowledge of a high level hit like Hoffa.
hes a Rat if he had any knowledge the he would of told the FBI and done even less time
Sammy don't know a thing about what happened to Hoffa , neither does Franseze. They lie and act like big guys all knowing. Detroit and Tony pro did it
They are not telling you that they actually know exactly what happened. What they are telling is what they think happened.
They clear in that assertion and they disagree with most of the theories out there which is what it sums up to.
That does not mean you have to believe them.
STOP GLORIFYING RATS!!!
2:34 when he is uncomfortable he reaches for that bottle... oh he knows what they did with him!!
With Organized Crime the only reason that a Body is found is because they want it found and know that they did that as a warning!
I feel like the Hoffa thing is literally down to splitting hairs at this point. Sheehan was involved intricately, now whether he pulled the trigger can be debated, but the bulk of it appears to be the closest to the truth to date. Sammy be back on that molly supplied by his son it looks like.
Killing Jimmy Hoffa | The Irishman True Story | Al Profit Documentary
Search and watch that on here, I think your opinion will change.
Ummmmmm nope. THE IRISHMAN WAS LITERALLY 75% bullshit and I’ve studied the subject my whole adult life.
@frank vigliotti I know right lol, I tried to break it to him as gently as possible.
This guy doesn’t know what the hell happened to Jimmy Hoffa either😆
Sammy got the Hoffa story wrong. Hoffa's friend the irishman explained something that no else knew is where hoffa's blood was found. He said he shot him as soon as he walked in the door, decades later, they dug up the floor and found the blood stained old wood floor exactly how and where he said it would be. The two guys that were hired took him, cremated him never to be found. He said he had to be there cause Hoffa would not have gone anywhere where he thought he would be killed,, he only went cause he never suspected his best friend. Thats how they got him to the house.
They say Jim Henson contracted Kermit to whack him
Probably the best explanation of what went on with jimmy and the mob
It never will stop amazing me that society let him get back on his feet. You people ever think what it would be like to be in a room with a guy like that? If you had something he wanted? Its all interesting and exciting until someone like this enters your reality
Yeah. I like the stories but he shouldn't be free.
Yet you click and line his pockets. Interesting
He did his time though and here's the thing; when it's personal, it's never enough time but for most people, when it ain't personal, they can't be released fast enough. We do have laws in this land and I hope that if I ever go down for X, Y or Z that I can serve my time and know that I did the thing, know it's been done and try to go and do better is a good thing. Same for you. No one is perfect. We should be able to get back up and make amends, serve our time and move forward. There's no better system.
@@whateverittakes1673 Your absolutely right. However he is making money off of his stories and idk how you could do that and grow into a different person at the same time. I cant debate with anything you said. It just messes with me that as time goes by society glorifies people like this more and more.
@@soultosqueeze1853 bro the guy is pushing 80. Sammy’s lived his life and now he’s telling his story. It’s no different to a ‘Nam vet telling his stories about how he helped burn down villages and kill civilians… No less disturbing yet one is ‘legal’ and the other is illegal.
If Sammy was like 40 and possibly still making dirty money, then… yeah I guess it might be a bit much, especially if he was gloating about unsolved murders.
But no he’s 70 something and doesn’t talk loose