Yeah I don't want the RGB nonsense but I've wondered why they insist on keeping the form factor, instead of just mounting a normal Noctua fan, letting you pick it, and having a taller stack. At least for people who are looking for either performance, quiet cooling or storage. This monstrosity shows how easy it would be. I'd love to see Beelinks GTR7 style take on this - an aluminium case, space for a fan, and just taller than their current offering with as much storage as they can offer. Maybe an intake fan and an errr... whatever you call the ones that push air out again, with the mini-PC in between? But you could offer the space and the ability to either put storage or a fan in it as well. Lots of options. They're being more creative than they have been but I'm yet to get thrilled. :)
Not that this solution is perfect either. It uses a non-standard frame-less fan. (it looks similar to what is used on GPUs) The heatsink doesn't seem to use any heatpipes for even better cooling. The front side does not have exhaust vents, and is blocked. It's not exactly clear if this cools the DRAM and SSD on the underside adequately. (not that blower designs with negative air pressure were doing all that well here either)
Too many brands and versions. We can't decide which one to buy. Would be great to see if you can make a comparison video about best 7840HS mini pc. TDP/ Cooling / Fan Noise / Performance/ Bios options etc..
Would be nice to cover things like support. As it is now, seems like none of these mini pc brands have proper support for their boards. They're more interested in selling you the next/latest model instead of giving any sort of bios updates for machines 2 years old that are still being sold new on their site.
@@slimjim2321these machines arent designed to be kept for years and years and serviced They serve two functions, either a cheap editing/gaming pc or they are used as work computers If you know anything about a work computer the price is all that matters when the corp upgrades
These little PCs are such a perfect fit for RVs from both a power draw and space perspective. Plan on running one as my main work PC in my van and then firing my beefier PC when I want a bit more fidelity or need the performance for 3D/editing or my steam deck if I want to lounge or play outside. This will easily run on a modest solar setup. So exciting to be alive during this low power computer revolution!!!
I LOVE how that looks. It being edge-lit instead of hub-lit, and ARGB instead of just one color, makes a big difference in making this work. So many other mini PCs are either just a blank grey/black box, or are incredibly overdesigned like a knock-off modern transformers toy. This is a vast improvement and can be showy or minimal with just a toggle of the RGB.
I have one of these that I purchased last year in 7735HS which was a lot cheaper. The only down side to this board is the power draw - if you add too many power drawing devices on the USB or a fan for example you may face issues. What's more there's only one USB4 port & the power port on the back can work with an USB-C PSU.
I do not understand why not a single Mini PC manufacturer doesn't just slap on a 80 90 100 120mm fan on top like this instead mostly opting for whiny laptop cooling. With clever ducting a singe fan could cool cpu gpu package as well as benefit bottom mounted ram and ssd.. Being a proud father of an i5 2500k pc that I built just before my son was born which is now in dire need of replacing ( the pc not the kid ) I hád ordered the EM680 from Minisforum but learning of the voltage issue that causes the cpu and gpu to throttle down I returned it and am currently contemplating either the EM780 but the fact that this come with the same 65w psu as the EM680 does not give much confidence and the price premium over this and say the FEVM FA780 for léss performance and more noise ; it;s a good thing this 7840 package comes with an off switch for the RGB effects =}
Mini pcs on a Saturday? Perfect 👍😎❤ Perfect any day of the week. Great vid. Appreciate the power consumption, temps, PSU specs, game demos, and most especially the teardown . . . Here we can see a more sane pathway to swapping out a broken fan albeit this one is custom, too. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Nice, sleek, compact, Perfect for the kids if you ask me, plenty of power, not bad as a back up. With the RGB knocked out, it would sit perfect partially concealed behind my living room TV for general purpose browsing and gaming, streaming video, sharing family photos, etc. .
I definitely would love to see this little machine absolutely maxed out with all the bells and whistles you can throw at it! Additionally, I’m wondering what the possibilities are regarding the installation of MacOSX and usage as a dual boot Hackintosh 🤔
@@Chunter_mk4 that’s a shame, thanks for replying! Was hoping for a nice little budget machine that would compete at 4K gaming and still be a better budget option than a Mac Mini 😔
I am very interested in a comparison between this one, the Beelink and Minisforum products of the same type, a feature/io plus performance, temp, and noise level eval
Finally a Type-C powered Mini PC. Hope old ass barrels will be removed from market. Tho this one is very expensive for a 7840hs minipc. Minisforum is 479$
@@TheDezmen3 oops i just check their website again, they actually have barebone option, its in the last option 😅 its very competitive $418 for a barebone 7840hs
@@rarenintendo no, just a lot of experience with fans. There are other ones besides noctua, I agree. But a cheap Chinese fan with disco lights, I find very unlikely.
I highly suggest adding Warzone to your benchmarks, it really gives the CPU/GPU combo a good test as the game holds large map so more processing and gpu usage
The product website does not mention memory up to 5600. Is that information in the manual (I did see the speed shown in task manager) ? I have noticed that some versions, Beelink in particular, hard set the memory speed to 4800 and igpu's are much more sensitive to mem speeds. How much does the memory speed impact performance in these minis? That would also be very interesting content. I tried to compare results with other reviewers of the competing products (Daniel Owens and EVO Tech in particular) but nobody is running the same games at the same settings - you had Cyberpunk set to low and FSR2 to balanced and were getting respectable framerates in the 70's, while Mr. Owens set his tests to various settings, but the closest was game quality to medium with FSR2 Quality and he was showing averages of ~50fps. The temps on this device were definitely better but the BeeLink and Minisforum versions do not seem to be thermally challenged, just warmer (a noise comparison would definitely be great!) Also, thanks for the video! Always interesting.
@@DS-pk4eh yeah, from my research, it seems to be hit or miss. Some models only allow 4800, such as the 6900HX variant, but the SER 6 7735 does limit it - which may be the one I was thinking of...but still, the giztop website does only show 4800.
another consideration is memory and GPU allocation - I've read that 32GB system memory sets the GPU allocation to 4GB and 64 GB system memory sets the allocation to 8GB. a comparison of those two conditions would also be very interesting...
9:39 it's not just about electricity cost. I'm working in a kiosk with just 450w of allocated electricity. So I need to make sure that I can use a computer along with other appliance without exceeding ~400w.
Great video,can you do one with max setting tweak to see the performance, looking to get one. A quick guide go how to max settings would be good. Thanks in advance
That would be perfect if you had to travel, do a little gaming when you’re in the hotels packing it with you today’s TV that are in the nice hotels you can use it as a computer screen very sweet little guy..❤
There are so many of these mini PCs now that they all are pretty much the same to me. I like them and there are only a few i would actually buy but for the price I think I would come off better building one. I'm waiting on what AMDs new APUs will do but more of the Pro versions of them and my other options are building something with MinisForums BD770i in a 5L case but the BD970i seems like it will be a beast.
I have basically the same, but it says SZBox 7840HS. My BIOS version shows 0.01 ! What is yours? Works great though. I would like to be able to adjust iGPU VRAM size, just like I can on my 5700G system. I paid 420USD for system without RAM and SSD. I got 32Gb @5600 RAM and some SSD I had laying around. PS2 emulator runs great, PS3 seems to run good too
Looks like the fan can't be replaced with a STANDARD fan of any kind. That's too bad. I'm still waiting for a mini-PC that will take STANDARD fan. My preference is 120x120x25mm, but others are acceptable also, like 92x92x25, 80x80x25, or possibly 15mm thin ones.
It's funny how the things ETA PRIME mentions as negatives, for example the RGB (which I usually am not a fan of), I actually like very much. If I had the money I would be this ASAP, with 64GB of RAM and max SSD)
Love to see this thing at full throttle with some overclocking! This one deff caught my eye. I have yet to purchase a mini pc for the family room. Always check em out but never go for it cuz I just love my full size Game Rig so much.
Idk....all of these 7840 and 7940 mini PCs are the same price or pricier than a Rog Ally, which has a Z1 extreme chip which is dead ass near exact same chip. It can also draw 40watts on plugged in turbo mode. Granted the fans get loud but you also get a screen and controller and portability attached with it. A $25 dock with it turns it into a mini PC.
Will you do any follow up videos on your mini PC's that you show as we have asked and would like to see how these perform and if they could handle a egpu attached as well
The best cpu cooling solution in mini pc world, but average memory cooling. They should’ve add heatsink with fan for two m2 ssds. Hope this cpu cooling design will be adopted by other manufacturers
Great vid review! Any idea if this little beast could run Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024? If anyone has tested this mini for flight sim, please share your thoughts. 😎
i love the idea of using a 90mm fan for a mini pc. you get better cooling with less noise.
Yeah I don't want the RGB nonsense but I've wondered why they insist on keeping the form factor, instead of just mounting a normal Noctua fan, letting you pick it, and having a taller stack. At least for people who are looking for either performance, quiet cooling or storage. This monstrosity shows how easy it would be. I'd love to see Beelinks GTR7 style take on this - an aluminium case, space for a fan, and just taller than their current offering with as much storage as they can offer. Maybe an intake fan and an errr... whatever you call the ones that push air out again, with the mini-PC in between? But you could offer the space and the ability to either put storage or a fan in it as well. Lots of options. They're being more creative than they have been but I'm yet to get thrilled. :)
Was it 80 or 90? I thought he said 80 but maybe it’s specd to 90?
Smart design is always welcome.
Not that this solution is perfect either.
It uses a non-standard frame-less fan. (it looks similar to what is used on GPUs)
The heatsink doesn't seem to use any heatpipes for even better cooling.
The front side does not have exhaust vents, and is blocked.
It's not exactly clear if this cools the DRAM and SSD on the underside adequately. (not that blower designs with negative air pressure were doing all that well here either)
@@Coral_dude i looked at the product page and it says 9cm
RDNA 3 has really unlocked these mini pc's gaming capability. 780M has amazing performance for an iGPU!
meh , better wait rdna 5 igpu
@@jeofthevirtuoussand Nah, I'm waiting for RDNA X. I heard it'll have the power of the 4060ti.
Yeah yeah better to just wait more and more for better products. Better to spend more time waiting than gaming or using the product! 😁
@@jeofthevirtuoussand we're still waiting for rdna 4.
Otherwise you'll be waiting 3+ years 👀
Is this szbox ???
Too many brands and versions. We can't decide which one to buy. Would be great to see if you can make a comparison video about best 7840HS mini pc. TDP/ Cooling / Fan Noise / Performance/ Bios options etc..
Dont expect ETA to do that. Its just a showcase & promo channel 😶
He'll never do that. This is a showcase channel.
He never compares specs of competing models. We aren’t buying these in a vacuum.
Would be nice to cover things like support. As it is now, seems like none of these mini pc brands have proper support for their boards. They're more interested in selling you the next/latest model instead of giving any sort of bios updates for machines 2 years old that are still being sold new on their site.
@@slimjim2321these machines arent designed to be kept for years and years and serviced
They serve two functions, either a cheap editing/gaming pc or they are used as work computers
If you know anything about a work computer the price is all that matters when the corp upgrades
My wife is going to kill me… Bought to much stuff like this…. oh look, a new nice Mini-PC with a damn RGB lights 🥳🙌🏻
😂
These little PCs are such a perfect fit for RVs from both a power draw and space perspective. Plan on running one as my main work PC in my van and then firing my beefier PC when I want a bit more fidelity or need the performance for 3D/editing or my steam deck if I want to lounge or play outside. This will easily run on a modest solar setup. So exciting to be alive during this low power computer revolution!!!
I LOVE how that looks. It being edge-lit instead of hub-lit, and ARGB instead of just one color, makes a big difference in making this work. So many other mini PCs are either just a blank grey/black box, or are incredibly overdesigned like a knock-off modern transformers toy. This is a vast improvement and can be showy or minimal with just a toggle of the RGB.
I have one of these that I purchased last year in 7735HS which was a lot cheaper. The only down side to this board is the power draw - if you add too many power drawing devices on the USB or a fan for example you may face issues. What's more there's only one USB4 port & the power port on the back can work with an USB-C PSU.
You can always buy a powered usb hub to circumvent this
I love the cooling-oriented design. Very nice.
I do not understand why not a single Mini PC manufacturer doesn't just slap on a 80 90 100 120mm fan on top like this instead mostly opting for whiny laptop cooling. With clever ducting a singe fan could cool cpu gpu package as well as benefit bottom mounted ram and ssd..
Being a proud father of an i5 2500k pc that I built just before my son was born which is now in dire need of replacing ( the pc not the kid ) I hád ordered the EM680 from Minisforum but learning of the voltage issue that causes the cpu and gpu to throttle down I returned it and am currently contemplating either the EM780 but the fact that this come with the same 65w psu as the EM680 does not give much confidence and the price premium over this and say the FEVM FA780 for léss performance and more noise ; it;s a good thing this 7840 package comes with an off switch for the RGB effects =}
need more of these with the larger fan like this one.. the design does look sweet..
Mini pcs on a Saturday? Perfect 👍😎❤ Perfect any day of the week.
Great vid. Appreciate the power consumption, temps, PSU specs, game demos, and most especially the teardown . . . Here we can see a more sane pathway to swapping out a broken fan albeit this one is custom, too.
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
This rgb fan really needs temperature mode, actively reacting to heat woud be such a nice feature
Nice, sleek, compact, Perfect for the kids if you ask me, plenty of power, not bad as a back up. With the RGB knocked out, it would sit perfect partially concealed behind my living room TV for general purpose browsing and gaming, streaming video, sharing family photos, etc. .
Im really happy people are making these mini pcs, making gaming affordable for everyone.
Affordable? This thing is $500 just for the base model. If you want affordability, get an office PC and put a GTX 1650 or RX 6400 in it.
@@eddiew.4650 Exactly. Although I still think it's cool you can get this much performance from such a small PC. Gotta pay a premium for it tho
A mini PC powered by USB C is exactly what I've been wanting. Might have to throw some money at this company.
I definitely would love to see this little machine absolutely maxed out with all the bells and whistles you can throw at it!
Additionally, I’m wondering what the possibilities are regarding the installation of MacOSX and usage as a dual boot Hackintosh 🤔
AMD hasn’t been supported by hackintosh users in over 4 years, last cpu was on the am3 platform
@@Chunter_mk4 that’s a shame, thanks for replying! Was hoping for a nice little budget machine that would compete at 4K gaming and still be a better budget option than a Mac Mini 😔
Looks good ETA, plus you can switch the lighting off too 😀
I am very interested in a comparison between this one, the Beelink and Minisforum products of the same type, a feature/io plus performance, temp, and noise level eval
beautiful pc, loved, you could test this with steam os and with egpu plugged on to try extract the maximum that you can
Interesting, please do share higher performance tweaks, and contrast with MinisForum 780xtx / 790 Pro
Perfect for Lan parties 👍👍
I like the type C power supply!!! 😍
nice, the 100000000th 7000 series mini pc to hit the market. totally review worthy! just like the last 99999999999
Finally a Type-C powered Mini PC. Hope old ass barrels will be removed from market. Tho this one is very expensive for a 7840hs minipc.
Minisforum is 479$
that is barebone, without any ram and ssd
this one is actually cheaper with that 16gb+512gb config for $500 vs $479 no ram/ssd config
@@johnpp21 They need offer barebone, not many ppl wants to get unknown ssd/ram
@@TheDezmen3 oops i just check their website again, they actually have barebone option, its in the last option 😅
its very competitive $418 for a barebone 7840hs
Wow im really excited how much better the cooling is with the big fan. I hope there are coming more mini PCs with big fans.
Love the white exterior! Wish more tiny APU boxes came in white!
I'd really like to see ChimeraOS performance compared to Windows, as well as seeing 1440p performance numbers on these types of mini PCs.
Curious about replacing the FAN with a proper noctua or so.
As well as curious about emulation performance!
Thanks for a great video again! :)
@@rarenintendo no, just a lot of experience with fans. There are other ones besides noctua, I agree.
But a cheap Chinese fan with disco lights, I find very unlikely.
3x the CPU power of my i7-7700K at half the power. Wow.
Imma get one of these.... PLEASE do another video showing me how to upgrade and max it OUT... THANK U 😊
Mini pc with USB C power is huge! Can power it off a battery for 15+ hours. Could even connect a external gpu to it.
this is so far the best mini pc! yet
This PC in a stand with that RGB looks like hamsterwheel and boy the hamster in there is working really hard.
Nice. I'll have to check it out.
It seems this model case has been discontinued in this 7840hs version and instead will be shipped with the case with "cyberpunk" adorned top shell
I highly suggest adding Warzone to your benchmarks, it really gives the CPU/GPU combo a good test as the game holds large map so more processing and gpu usage
Would love to see you testing this with FSR3!
Wow, that performance is almost neck-n-neck with my series s lol I get 60-120fps at 900p-1080p low to medium. basically the same thing
That's very interesting in fact
Like for the rgb 😂
This look amazing ☺️
The product website does not mention memory up to 5600. Is that information in the manual (I did see the speed shown in task manager) ? I have noticed that some versions, Beelink in particular, hard set the memory speed to 4800 and igpu's are much more sensitive to mem speeds. How much does the memory speed impact performance in these minis? That would also be very interesting content. I tried to compare results with other reviewers of the competing products (Daniel Owens and EVO Tech in particular) but nobody is running the same games at the same settings - you had Cyberpunk set to low and FSR2 to balanced and were getting respectable framerates in the 70's, while Mr. Owens set his tests to various settings, but the closest was game quality to medium with FSR2 Quality and he was showing averages of ~50fps. The temps on this device were definitely better but the BeeLink and Minisforum versions do not seem to be thermally challenged, just warmer (a noise comparison would definitely be great!) Also, thanks for the video! Always interesting.
i got beelink ser7 stock config, the memory is set to 5600 when i check the task manager
I got this same, bought 5600 ddr5 2x16Gb sticks and it just works. I think, for iGPU, ram speed is important.
@@DS-pk4eh yeah, from my research, it seems to be hit or miss. Some models only allow 4800, such as the 6900HX variant, but the SER 6 7735 does limit it - which may be the one I was thinking of...but still, the giztop website does only show 4800.
another consideration is memory and GPU allocation - I've read that 32GB system memory sets the GPU allocation to 4GB and 64 GB system memory sets the allocation to 8GB. a comparison of those two conditions would also be very interesting...
9:39 it's not just about electricity cost. I'm working in a kiosk with just 450w of allocated electricity. So I need to make sure that I can use a computer along with other appliance without exceeding ~400w.
Great video,can you do one with max setting tweak to see the performance, looking to get one. A quick guide go how to max settings would be good. Thanks in advance
I can vouch for crucial. Excellent ram.
That would be perfect if you had to travel, do a little gaming when you’re in the hotels packing it with you today’s TV that are in the nice hotels you can use it as a computer screen very sweet little guy..❤
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These mini PCs need fans ideally. As it would unlick their full potential and stop throttling
There are so many of these mini PCs now that they all are pretty much the same to me. I like them and there are only a few i would actually buy but for the price I think I would come off better building one. I'm waiting on what AMDs new APUs will do but more of the Pro versions of them and my other options are building something with MinisForums BD770i in a 5L case but the BD970i seems like it will be a beast.
the great thing about this is the avx 512 on the cpu for rpsc3 emulation
I like it a lot, I hope they make some cheap versions too like n305 maybe or n95
this looks like a nice pc for company.
$700 USD it anyone is wondering
That thing has more RAM and HDD space than my laptop and price is really interesting 🤯
I have basically the same, but it says SZBox 7840HS. My BIOS version shows 0.01 ! What is yours?
Works great though. I would like to be able to adjust iGPU VRAM size, just like I can on my 5700G system.
I paid 420USD for system without RAM and SSD. I got 32Gb @5600 RAM and some SSD I had laying around. PS2 emulator runs great, PS3 seems to run good too
Looks like the fan can't be replaced with a STANDARD fan of any kind. That's too bad.
I'm still waiting for a mini-PC that will take STANDARD fan.
My preference is 120x120x25mm, but others are acceptable also, like 92x92x25, 80x80x25, or possibly 15mm thin ones.
okay, but why ? Looks like this fan working great. Sometimes i have the feeling that ppl searching for "Problems" :D
@@Anonym-ww3kd To be able to replace it. After a couple of years, any fan is no longer as quiet as before.
Nice 👍
It's funny how the things ETA PRIME mentions as negatives, for example the RGB (which I usually am not a fan of), I actually like very much.
If I had the money I would be this ASAP, with 64GB of RAM and max SSD)
Love to see this thing at full throttle with some overclocking! This one deff caught my eye. I have yet to purchase a mini pc for the family room. Always check em out but never go for it cuz I just love my full size Game Rig so much.
09:14 about noise level. "It's quiet "
Can you also review 'AOOSTAR R7 2 Bay'? It is actually a PC with a NAS and Router built-in to it.
I miss the awesome, super cool intro.
Idk....all of these 7840 and 7940 mini PCs are the same price or pricier than a Rog Ally, which has a Z1 extreme chip which is dead ass near exact same chip. It can also draw 40watts on plugged in turbo mode. Granted the fans get loud but you also get a screen and controller and portability attached with it. A $25 dock with it turns it into a mini PC.
I NEED this ! 😲
It could be great if you try the FSR3 mod on some game like Spiderman or Cyberpunk on this kind of pc 🤯
Finally a company that put some thought into the cooling. Real shame it has RGB, so it cannot be used in SMB installs.
Nice little PC.
How about emulation?
Or the use of Chimera or Steam OS?
RGB aside this is so cool
I like RBG because it reminds me to turn the computer off before going to bed. The fan looks great as well.
2 ethernet ports could be used with pi hole and route your internet through it
I've always been curious how these mini PCs run multiplayer games. Any chance we can get a video of that?
This is so similar to my GenMachine 6900hx es.
Look amazing
I'm waiting for a variant with a ryzen pro edition cpu so I can put real unregistered ECC sodimm in it.
Will you do any follow up videos on your mini PC's that you show as we have asked and would like to see how these perform and if they could handle a egpu attached as well
Can’t wait for 8700g apu
please add a noise rating in your reviews
im looking forward for their gem series
oculink + lpddr5 7500 ram is nice
I would love to see if it's possible to add a EGPU to it
seems like only through thunderbolt, unless you are willing to sacrifice the 1x nvme slot.
I wonder if it's possible to remove the fan cover and leave a thicker fan on top of the heatsink to get better cooling.
now imagine how good the 8700g is as it was reported to use 780m g.
The best cpu cooling solution in mini pc world, but average memory cooling. They should’ve add heatsink with fan for two m2 ssds. Hope this cpu cooling design will be adopted by other manufacturers
Will be great to have 2x m.2 nvme + 2x2,5mm ssd without rgb ( just a dream 😅 ).
i will buy just for the RGB
i would like to it optimized with maybe a memory clock and a bit of a cpu undervolt
More videos about this System
I'd be interested in knowing if it's possible to eek more performance out of this unit.
Great vid review! Any idea if this little beast could run Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 or 2024? If anyone has tested this mini for flight sim, please share your thoughts. 😎
IMO, this should be using good old reliable laptop barrel plug, cause why now... otherwise, it's perfect
These mini pcs are so cool but damn are they expensive
I would like to see some info on performance/watt and performance/$
Yes max it out !
Amazing device
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I want a mini pc to play wow i wonder if its worth it for this one
Perfect as high-end emulation station usage and FHD AAA games...put behind your tv and say bye to your consoles.....
How is it perform on cooling? I am using Morefine M600 and find that the fan is too noisy to cool the cpu.
I have seen u have alot videos, what one you notice runs same or better than steamdeck in close same price
Hey, what happened to the intro? I miss the robot playing on the handheld.
It's the perfect mini pc, if it's not looks so ugly... (in my opinion). But coloring the case and deactivate the rgb could help...
Any mini PC you can recommend for under $250 that can plan AAA games?