Lifting a trawler engine - the gantry worked! - Project Brupeg Ep.276
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- We did it! the motor and gearbox are out! Our gantry trolly arrived and worked a treat. Thanks to Duncan and Dennis for your help. We can now start getting the engine room ready for the newly rebuilt Cummins, new gearbox and generator. What was a difficult and trying day turned out to be a lot of fun.
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Jess, Dame, Snoop and Baby
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This is how people built big heavy things for centuries before the advent of various forms of motor power. Still can't beat a block and tackle and a brain to get things done. And props to your fork driver, that guy's got some excellent finesse on those controls, not an easy thing to do. This episode is a great piece of filmmaking demonstrating how you get things done with the whole project.
Exactly. Thanks Kevlarandchrome! It was interesting and a learning curve. Lloyd the forklift driver is very cool, capable and a really nice guy. Thanks for the feedback on filming. We wanted to show an honest take of the learning and experience of it. Cheers Jess
Here am at 4 in the friggen morning watching lifting an engine.
There must be something special with these guys to keep me doing this.
Happy you all had those safety sandals on!
Oh, Michael, behave! Seriously, though, I don't think a regular steel toecap is built to withstand much more than a full metal toolbox falling off a 6' stepladder. (My UK boots are rated at 200 joules. Yours may differ. 😁)
As the engine weighs a lot more than a dropped fridge or washing machine, boots might actually make things worse. I don't mean in terms of crush injuries, but in giving wearers a false sense of security.
If someone feels invulnerable they may act recklessly and so be at greater risk than a scaredy-cat. A bit like those cyclists you see wearing very loose-fitting crash helmets, which will be worse than useless in a violent collision.
So wearing sandals might actually be a good idea when truly safe boots (capable of taking a couple of tons of crunch) aren't available. With zero protection, the guys will be extra cautious to keep clear because they know what'll happen if a chain snaps.
I know it's a pretty specious argument. I suppose the only really safe place to be standing is somewhere else. 🙂
@@EleanorPeterson oh Elli don't be salty!!
Definitely better to have boots on. But they are all adults and make their own risk assessments
The only risky thing I saw was standing down in the engine bay while it was being winched on the chain block.
@@Dave5843-d9m I am happy nothing bad happened and I can't wait to see the new engine get installed 😁😁
If everyone can say "What was that?" you are golden. Glad all are safe and live to hoist another day.
Great job everyone. Going to be a task and a half getting that new, taller motor back in. I can see that lump of metal on the floor meeting Mr Plasma cutter! 😁
Great to see that lump out and gone. Look forward to seeing the reverse with the new engine.
Engine out - check. Well done boys.
That whole evolution was absolutely terrifying to watch, even though I was pretty certain (because you published the episode) that no one was killed! Whew.
Oh yes, there are heroes in boatbuilding!
well done guys,that brought back memories of using block n tackle as an apprentice in a foundry lol
It's not easy to get a big motor in or out of a finished hull. Great work! 👍🏻 💪🏻
Yeah the variables are difficult, weight, height, finances, timelines... Thanks Erik! Jess
That looked like seriously hard work - but fascinating for dogs and cats!
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner! The system is in place with a few tweaks to load and unload engines, gear boxes, tool boxes, generators, batteries, anything, etc.. BRILLIANT! Very well done! Anticipated this vid for the whole week, time for 1 or 2 Guinesses, Cheers from the Pine Tree State. 😎👌
One hell of a moment arm on the fork lift!!!
having General Veers in the group is always a good thing 😀
Great job to the D crew, Damien, Duncan and Dennis for getting the engine out nice and safe. Always better to have extra safety lines then to rely on brute strength.
You forgot Dess
This is so darn exciting! Wow! Congrats on a tight operation.
An important parameter in rigging is the sling angle, the smaller the angle the higher the tension in the sling. Generally a rigger will aim for a sling angle of 60°. While that was not possible with the headroom you had available you could have gotten much closer to the ideal and possibly avoided the failure of the lifting point.
Here's a short video that explains this: ruclips.net/video/2xwi5xo8xOQ/видео.html
The weight is (obviously) pulling down, but when the sling is too short the angle puts even more lateral force on the lifting points. It’s trigonometry but as he says less than 60 degrees is not good. Do that with double slings and only if there’s no other option.
Agree totally.
A very informative video thanks.
So great to see your progress. For me, the outstanding part.....Jess seems to be a lot better. To see her helping with the motor was a real joy. To Duncan and Dennis, awesome. Well done you fabulous men. Damo, you've done it again. A couple of heart-stopping moments, but all's well. This episode really got my blood flowing. WELL DONE.
On a positive note, you get to practice this and make changes for when this happens in the future.
Another thing we did for our chain hoist was to sew up small bags to catch the excess chian. These bags were attached to the hoist and kept the chain from being in the way.
14:20 - Woof! A perfect example of how a dog, as a pack animal, is exquisitely attuned to the mood of the group. The Snoop-meister can sense that his chums are focused, anxious, and preparing for something serious to happen, so his adrenaline levels are sky high.
He's no idea what's going on mechanically, but he's reading body-language, smelling nervous scents, and hearing the stress in voices.
Barking is his way of saying that he's up for whatever his Brupeg pack's alpha male and female ask of him. (As long as it's not, "Sit down and relax, doggie-dude - this is an opposable thumb thing; we've got it covered..."🤭)
And the cat, as a nocturnal solo operator, is wondering what the heck all the noise and activity is for in the middle of the 'night'...🐈
Yeah, I saw that too and left it in the edit for that reason. Awesome Elli! You see things from an interesting perspective - I love it! Jess
@@ProjectBrupeg every time there was a bark on the screen my two shot out the back yard barking their brains out
How exciting to have the old engine and transmission out of the boat. Looking forward to the next steps.
Thanks Wayne
Not when we thought it was already fine and ready to go. Oh well..
@@rodneylee4026 So true. One of the things I really admire about Jess and Damien is the way they deal with all the hurdles that they face. Their positive attitude and community focus really makes this channel special, and the way everyone rallied to support them so that they can move forward with a solid reliable propulsion system is so heartwarming.
If only dame had installed that anti gravity button I told him to buy last time. Good job guys.
I’m only half way through this video and I am so impressed by the whole crew. Just awesome.
Thanks Rob, it was a very fun day.
Good job, guys! No one was harmed in this episode.
Hats off to the forklift driver
Great job guys. Jess so great to see your mobility improving every episode.
so glad the trolley showed up!
Bravo and well done you. Thanks, Dennis and Duncan, for helping Damien to not kill himself trying to do this alone.
Half the battle is won. Now, all you have to do is await the new one, and reverse the process! Bloody awesome!
If there's anything that makes me happier, I don't know what it is - its hearing your intro music!!! It means Brupeg is here! Hooray!! Love you guys! Including "bossy boots". No need to be too worried about the audience. Y'all are there. You really do need a trolley car on that gantry system. I know that would have made that so much easier. Glad you finally got it.
"bossy boots"....I like that..lol....keep those guys in line...lol. yalll are great. Balancing safety and progress isn't always easy but yall are doing a good job.
Awesome progress!
Exciting times!🇨🇦
It was the angle the camera first showed the engine drop last week that made it look like it was still right over the opening. That caught my breath. I know your all being safe. All through out this rebuild I've learned a very important lesson, never try to second guess Damon and his abilities.
Well done team😀
now that's heavy work, good one, keep safe..
Your gearbox weighs three times as much as our whole engine! :D
wow what a great episode, I had to have an intermission to still my pounding heart, Great job guys.
@12:52 Dame's bell ringing practice comes in handy
They are not washers, they are shims :D
I don't think you need such an angle when crabbing, one winch above the original position, one above the new postion, far better to do smaller increments.
glad you had some extra hands available to help you out with this mammoth task!
Awesome job the four of you did!
Thanks Dave
Regarding the end stops for your i-beams: You can drill a hole in the vertical part and stick a d-ring shackle through it. It's quick/easy to remove, shouldn't let the crane past, and you can use it to hook things to as well.
Heck of a job! Well done!
Big job
Very much like a WellDone than an OOPPPPPSSSSS....awsome team work Guy's, and Gal!!!
Nice job!!! Sheesh, that was a huge one!
Well it was only a small drop. No one was in real danger.
Also it's been really nice to see Jess in the thick of it, I know she is always busy doing something. But we see how much she enjoys getting in the middle of it.
Play safe and have fun, great update 2x👍
Great teamwork.
Nice
Brilliant! Love the job .
Well everyone came out with 10 finger and 10 toes right. And they all left with all their digits. Great job is all I can say!!! Well guys
Awesome job guys...on the engine removal..👍👍
Being under that motor reminds me of that movie scene in "Sand Pebbles" with Steve McQueen...
IN DAME WE TRUST! Here endeth the lesson.
lol very good.
Great work team in cramped conditions. Those safety sandals are amazing, I must get some. Working in those conditions is always challenging and safety must come first. Load rated U bolts, chains, shackles etc etc. Looking forward to the install, just don't drop the engine
Life can change in an instant stay safe
Ausum! Great team work!!
GREAT EFFORT BOY`S WELL DONE.
32:41 just as an FIY because i stumbled upon them recently, and thought of you: there's a type of wall socket that's even higher waterproof standard than the one up top there (which is likely an IP54). At the rating of IP66, the cover's formed such that even with a plug in, it seals it 100% (it basically seals around the wire). At sea, with salt and sprays... i'd say that's an advantage. They're a wee bit expensive, but it's not like you have 1000 sockets outside. They format (i see here in Europe, so pointless to give you a brand, you can search it by rating) them to fit within the same spaces as IP54 ones, just with a little tail that sticks out about half the size of the actual body.
Just thought i should mention it in case you weren't aware of it.
Congrats on this huge task! Also
A huge 🎉congratulations on cracking 50k subscribers, on to 💯 k and a million subscribers.
Thanks
I am sure glad the chain failed when it could only drop a couple of inches. That trolly sure sped things. If you could put a temp bridge piece between the two I-beams, that would be slick too. What a bunch of work. It did, however, make for an epic episode.
If you could put the deck plate back in place when the engine is high enough, I think it would make the whole operation safer.
Not possible as we need the hoist to move the hatch which was busy moving the engine
Protect Blinky ....All will be good :D
Woho!
Hi guys wonderful job fantastic working together keep up the good work Cliff from down the track at Logan city Queensland Australia from the big island
I was interested in this , I myself was involved in a dropped motor rigging in a similar situation, a slipped hook ,there were experienced mechanics calling the shots, no one got hurt ,everyone was quite humbled ,add to lesson learned
Can I suggest as a convenience and extra safety factor a set of duplex radios or phones with a decent pair of gaited ear defenders so you can do out of line of sight communications with a machine driver or person in another room/compartment. Great for problem solving or chasing wiring too. Especially in a noisy environment.
Thank God that’s over……… I am exhausted! Going to go take a nap now.
Well done, I’m sure there more more than a few puckers when the chain broke. Do a quick search for chain angles, they see much higher loads than you’d think when they’re at extreme angles.
My goodness, I would have swallowed my heart when the motor started to drop. What to they say? The chain is only as strong as its weakest link? What a way to find the weakest link.
It wasn't a link. It was a shackle being twisted two ways.
@@dnomyarnostaw Hi Ray. Thanks for the clarification
Hi Ray, it was a link. Jess
@@ProjectBrupeg Hi Jess. Thanks for the confirmation. Love, Tim :)
You commented on that adjustable wrench and here in the United States we call it a crescent wrench or a Mexican Speed Wrench. Damn you were very lucky that chain didn’t pull apart while that block was up and in the hole.
we have another name for them in Aust.. Adjustable nut F (rhymes with Plucker)
the little sander thingys are called "roloc" here in the uk, i love love LOVE 3m roloc green bristle disks for cleaning gasket surfaces, they are spendy but nothing removes old gaskets or silicone quite like them.
i reckon you should be knocking back a few cold ones, you all deserve it. well done on a job that could have gone so wrong.
So the rating of chain goes down depending on the angle.
Another way of lifting this (perhaps on installation) might be to use fabric slings on the ends of the engine going through shackles bolted to the engine. Next fabricate a makeshift spreader bar - a piece of anything up to the task really but make it so the slings can't slip ie holes for shackles or tabs welded on top or something. Use other slings to connect the spreader bar to the chain block so you don't exceed 60deg (up to 90 is probably OK for government work LOL).
You choke the slings around the spreader bar ie pass the sling loop under the spreader bar and pass the sling through its eye and use the other eye of the sling to connect onto the chain block hook - the idea of choking is the greater the load the tighter the sling/chain/wire rope grips. Short slings are the go here. Chain chokes work well too but they must have correct hooks - just think slip knots and you'll work out how to rig it up without me mansplaing.
There is a chain angle load reduction chart on Google but I feel experientially the spirit of >90deg angle and the not insubstantial load reduction is clear enough.😜
PS
Fabric pipe slings that steel distribution companies have come with line pipe (stuff they hammered into the sea the other day). They're thrown away after the pipes are unbundled. If you see pipe bundles in your travels ask and they might let you have them since they're only used at the mill at the time of manufacture and after that are rubbish. They are nearly always still attached to the bundles and they are likely the short length you're after.
Excellent advice
Agree. I work around big stuff and have seen chains break, pipes buckle, compressed air system once detonated...these guys are ok but man that could have been bad. The engine rolling and it would have crushed someones legs. They make grade 100 and 120 lifting chains for a reason.
Making it happen…. great efforts produce great outcomes. ;)
You got that right!
Great job lifting the motor out of Brupeg. I presume the new motor has a different gearbox? Surprised you did not lay some steel across the opening when you had the motor at deck level so you could reposition the hoist.
whew! glad tp see no one died lol had us on eggshells for a week "crikey" lol i watched a video a while back on YT cannot for the life of me remember the guys name he tested either tiedown straps or lifting straps or both but he did discover that when those kinds of straps are twisted they lose quite a bit of their strength just something to consider if using them for lifting good job getting the old chugger out stay safe all
Where were the safety shoes bought? The ones where you can see toes and the shoes that are for running???
Watch now, all the OSH police start lecturing you all every five comments. You all did a great job... Looking forward to seeing this new engine get rebuilt and installed, have a good one guys.
Yeah thanks Fon, we appreciate that. It was a learning curve thats for sure. I don't think some people listened but its okay. We have to be able to do things without great equipment when we must so its go practise. Jess
loving the engine haul, but does that mean the next engine has to go in in bits? denis' certified canadian safety sandels looked the part
Mission accomplished! (Or, at least, its first phase.) Does Snoop play tug-o-war? He might be a handy line-holder.
I have to say, at the beginning, I love Mr Snoop’s cheesecake pose in the background with his sexy leg, so adorable! Then he barks, letting you know there’s a huge engine in the living room!!
Great Vid. You can get spikey rubber pads for the air grinders which are great for removing gasket material on engines. Different grades for alloy or steel. Fantastic if access is poor. Have you thought about towing a platform tender with a decent size forklift on it? There doesn't seem to be a problem they can't solve. I didn't realise how important to boatbuilding they are. And a walkie-talkie set to bark instructions in Inuktituk.
Half way back to the plan. I was part of a crew that had to crab a genny so it could go to a shop
I would suggest a couple of safety strops around the engine to the hook and a loop though them over the beam... This covers for any fail..
I see where you going with that, but it could be more dangerous and complicted than it was. As it was the one strop we used got tangled and had to be removed. Its surprising what doesn't that i would have thought an easy answer. Cheers Jess
Nail biting, but awesome job.
If you “notch” both I beams to clear the cross beam at the back of the enclosed area, you could make it a continuous slide fore to aft.
Pay no attention to the persons behind the curtain! (armchair engineers) Keep up the great work and thanks for the videos.
Thanks for watching!
Hi
Great job getting the engine out.
If I may make suggestion.
Use a short length of i beam to the engine . With holes cut in the ends and the middle. This will greatly reduce the distance when you use chain. Plus there is no slippage. Just as you made a cradle for the engine to sit on. You make a lifting cradle.
Well done everyone.
When the lift failed they guy in the sandles truely shit himself. So good you rested. Paying for an extra sideways chainblock would have been ok. They used 7 on sub engine removal. Any deviation from straight up & down compromises the eye beam. 4 chainblocks and a good breaks would have made the lift 100%.
open toe sandals !! in a working area
You should use some 2x2 angle steel weld to some flat steel and create a rail system. Put it on some large wooden beams. Lay on floor lift the Motor and place rails under the motor with v grove wheels. span the hole. set motor on top then roll it to the stern
Way too complicated Robert but we can see what you're thinking.
Be careful one person in charge but every one can say stop.Watch your sling angles so you dont exceed the SWL . At least you now have the wright equipment to put the new one in all the best.
Nice! Yes, great to have the right equipment but nice to know we can do it without if we have too again. Dame directed the whole thing as he's done every time. Most people take someone in charge as bossy here - we find it weird but its how it is (we have to work with personalities and cultural bias here) so we have Dame directing and everyone contributing for safety and ideas. We were moving slowly so it was safe to do it this way. Jess
with regards to your safety briefing. If you guys are serious about safety you should check out Dangar Marine. Nobody does a “safety squint” like stu 😂
Wow those outside mics look like Starrett or Brown & Sharpe. 😉😁😄
Need a 4.5 tonne fork for the extended jib and that engine at height. The rebuilt/new one will be the full long engine I presume extra weight?
Cut a smaller hatch door to open and get ventilation when working on the engine bay also to peak in and look at the engine
I'll rise you - a see through hatch.... for some reason the guys didn't like the idea. I'll keep working on it! jess
Make a block lifting plate that bolts on where the head bolts go in. Much easier and safer than that chain. Plus you gain the extra height.
We thought about that but worked out by the time we had build one we could damn near have the engine out
Looked kinda sketch to me. I’ve hoisted quite a few car engines and the use of a leveling bar would have helped. You should never pull a load like that horizontally… only straight up and down, vertically. But you got it done! Nice work 👍🏻