Top 10 UCI World Tour Rider Rankings 2023 » Tadej Pogačar, Mathieu van der Poel or Jonas Vingegaard?
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mvdp CLEARLY had the best season
Despite me being a fan boy of MVdP, I have a feeling this might be his best year of his career. He’s already 28 going to 29 season and have been racing since he was a teenager. He can definitely win big races but it won’t be as big as 2023.
Hopefully I’m wrong though
I think you got the MVDP, Pedersen, Van Aert trio exactly backwards. MVDP did it when it counted -- 2 monuments and 2 world championships, not to mention 2nd at Flanders. Pedersen and Van Aert had plenty of lesser wins, but in my book MVDP was by far the best non grand tour contender.
It's not him it's the UCI point classification
@@raphaelovicstrassovic9440 like UAE is better than Jumbo this year cuz they have more UCI points. Uhuh. Tout le monde can smell BS.
@@raphaelovicstrassovic9440 yea, it is a disgrace reading some of these comments. People speak like the expert when they have no clue what they are talking about. It is just annoying.
@@Matory6 This is the RUclips comment section. Did you expect any thing different?
@@stevenmeyer9674 Absolutely not.
Different from last year, Tadej dominated the one day races this year. He has 600+ more points than the second place MvDP. And he is out of the top 3 of stage race ranking. Last year, he was the second for both one day race and stage race.
I think Pogacar is the best this year, but the most impressive rider this year is MVDP! He doesn’t just win, he does it astonishing!
BRAVO POGI💪🙂🥇
its the official points ranking, but I think most cycling fans would rank MVDP in the top 3.
I can find myself in this rangking , what a luxery to have so much exceptional riders in 1 decade ! for me it was a fair resuld.
How on earth are van Aert and Pedersen in front of MvdP?!
must be a head wind🤭🤭🤭
Have you listened to the video? +he also won Tour of Britain
They did more races than him. So got more points
@@_DotAhh... well, now that you put it like that, clearly I haven't watched the video...
@@LoganPotgieter Does one get points just for doing races, and not for winning them?
People, it’s an objective UCI points list. Shows that uci points help determine a good top 10 but subjectivity has a role to play in saying who really had the best season
Thanks for the video, watched it twice. I struggle with your ranking of MVDP winning 2 monuments and the Worlds finishing behind Mads. Love Mads but he didn't have a better year than MVDP IMO. Keep posting great cycling content!
IMO Mads was 443 points better than MVDP
@@DanFallon1981 can't argue with the consistency Mads had this year. He is an amazing cyclist. My opinion is that MVDP had more major wins and if this list is based more on major wins than UCI points, then he should have ranked higher. Honestly I'm just happy to see great racing in 2023.
Mathieu doesn't do road racing full time, if he did he would very likely be above Mads. I take all rankings with a grain of salt. These guys are all amazing in their own way.
@@Mike-rm1lb He did do full road racing this year though.
Problem is that MvdP is a peaker, he uses races that aren't his goal to train/prep and tries to peak at exactly the right moment. Because of these he generally has less wins and high places => less UCI points.
All champs ,the best in what they can, love them all , they make cykling worth following
I'm curious where is Ganna in the rankings. Hes gotten second place in many important races and even took the hour record one year one week ago. Does anyone know how the hour record / Track performances are factored into these UCI rankings?
He's 14th
No, as neither the hour record nor track events are UCI World Tour races. Neither are cyclocross races and a lot of the smaller Italian one day-races he mentions. The UCI World Tour consists of, in total, 38 road racing events.
@@GardEngebretsen The smaller italian one day races still gives UCI points. But CX, other disciplines and non race events (hour record) don't.
Pogi and mvdp are the best riders :) UCI ranking does it's job, but the way it is currently made I wonder if it really adds anything. The amount of race days seems to play a huge part. If ranking was a really big deal you'd have some heavily overworked cyclists
It isn't just the race days, rather also how many races you ride to win. MvdP regularly uses a race purely as prep. He in the end has 6 wins vs many others above 10. If it weren't for winning 3 big ones, he wouldn't even be in the top 10. MvdP imo might be thé definition of a peaking rider.
mvdp didnt attend much races and dont have many points because of that. Pocacar was crushed once again in the tour by Vingegaard.
@@egelund1976 MvdP's points extrapolated to the same number of race days as Pogacar comes down to 1831 vs Pogacar's 3309. Pog only has done 3 race days more than MvdP btw (49 vs 46)
Coming 2nd in the TdF is still really good.
looking at the grand tours, its Vingegaard, Roglic, Pogi and then Kuss and Almaida. Looking at classics and one day races i would say MvdP, Pogi, Aert, Pedersen. Pogi is only first because he did well in both. But i think MvdP definitely had the biggest ones, winning Paris Roubaix and the rainbow jersey. Too bad he was only a supporting role in the tour and didnt go for his own success.
At all the people in the comments mad about the ranking, this is the UCI ranking, not a personal one
Mathieu didn’t dominate the cyclocross season this year. In fact, between all the battles between Wout and Mathieu, Wout won most of them but the most important one (World Championship) he lost.
Un classico direi
clearly u didnt even follow the whole cycle cross season lol.
@@mamajoe2815Then correct him instead of having an attitude pretending like you know everything.
@@Knofris oh yeah thanks for the advice. I’m starting a two hour documentary right now on how I should correct a RUclips comment. Dumbass
@@mamajoe2815 Still waiting for what actually happened this Cyclocross season. Oh wait, you rather pretend like you know everything and not say it to make you look like an imbecile😂.
With these results he desirve to be the best, but with a bit more luck he could have couple of races more. Like Worlds champ., Milano San Remo, LBL and ofcourse yellow at TDF
I think Vingegaard has edged pog with this season.
Plus no kuss on the list??
Kuss had a career year, but he didn’t rack up the UCI points. Nor is that ever his goal.
Vingegaard doesn’t win any monuments and doesn’t have a top 3 in the world champs, so it really is up to debate but the system has a ranking and Pogacar gets the most points, pretty simple
Jonas should have the first spot. He won the hardest tour of the year, and could easily have won the Vuelta as well. How can you be said to be the number one, when you aren't able to win any of the grand Tours? Winning one day races doesn't make you the best.
And winning Grand Tours doesn’t make you the best rider either. It’s up for debate which has more weight, but someone who can be top 3 or in a good year even win Grand Tours like Pogacar, be top 3 in the world champs and win monuments definitely is a better overall cyclist than someone who, well yea wins the Tour but doesn’t do anything else. And he didn’t win the Vuelta so all your hypothetical what may have been doesn’t count.
If I would be a pro cyclist and won every race that there is, I would be the best cyclist. That doesn’t make sense because it doesn’t happen and that’s why the “if he wanted he could’ve🤓” isn’t part of the debate about who had the best year.
FYI, Remco is 3rd on the UCI ranking, Chrono des nations put him over Roglic.
Mads Pillerson???
Remember this video is based on uci points!!!!!!!
2022???
Changed it haha
@@thecyclingdane nice
Van Der Poel narrowly ahead of Pogacar for me. Its fair that Pogacar is the best rider in the world and his Flanders win was a memorable one. My two favourite riders but Van Der Poel's attack on the Poggio and up Montrose Street in the World champs where both times he rode Pogacar and Van Aert off the wheel are career defining highlights.
Tadej and Remco, no other rider ;) Only Tadej and Remco do all kinds of races: Grand Tours, 1 Week GCs, Classics, One Day Races, National Championshios, TT-s, World Championships etc. Eventhough the two sometimes drop "dead" or are considered jokers, Tadej and Remco are the only two riders in the world who dare to ride every kind of race.
If Ving won the vuelta would he be in the no 1?
No, the uci points wouldn't have been enough to go over Pogi (this is about the UCI ranking)
🥰 jonas
I think Pogačar didnt had a best season this year, but with these results he desirved first plače... again
Pog's season was great though. I don't get why people say he didn't have the best season: 2 monuments, PN and Andalucia, several classics, a lot of high places (4th MSR, 3rd WC, 2nd TdF, ...) and 17 overall wins.
MVDP should have been 3rd or 4th had this list not included grand tours. And personal take, Roglic had a better season than Vingegaard
Egan Bernal had the best season
I would say that MVDP and Primoz had best season. Primoz won every gc except Vuelta and Mathieu has 2 world titles and 2 monuments
pedersen ahead of vdpoel ? You are kidding right ?
Arnaud De Lie dropped out of top 10. He did have 10 wins but is he overhyped?
He's still young and needs more time. What he does at his age is great, but he lacks experience and mostly wins in the smaller races for now.
I don't rank Jonas as high just because he is scared of classics and one day races. Mvdp had a great season and leading out the sprint train for his team was about the best ever, team guy for sure. I love the monuments and classics that is far more impressive than seeing how strong your team is and staying out of the wind till the last 2k
Nobody cares what you think, honestly. You're just a Pogacar fan trying to cope why he is next best.
I’m sorry, Tadej did not win a grand tour. I think Jonas Vingegaard proved himself as the best racer in the world. TDF Carrie’s the most weight, and he crushed Pogacar in the TDF. Could have won the Vuelta, but showed class in supporting Sepp Kuss.
He proved himself as the best grand tour racer, he neither does nationals, nor world champs, nor one day races and monuments, and would’ve could’ve might have been, he didn’t win the Vuelta. Someone who can’t win any one day races is far from being the best racer in the world. He’s the best grand tour racer, but overall debatable.
MVDP way too low IMO. Mads higher placed? Wout placed higher? What? Not even watching to the end...
mvpd after Pog imo but 2.
I believe Kuss should be on this list. WvA and Almeida were worse thab him.
Kurt si notting in Europe
what mvdp 7 no way 😭😭😭
Vingegaard
1. Jonas, 2. Primoz, 3. MVP, 4. Tadej, 5. Sepp, 6. Phillipsen, 7. Adam, others are not that much separable
Tadej at 4 with the season he had is criminal
how is wout and mads better than mvdp lol? mvdp won almost every race both cyclecross and road against wout and i dont even bother to discuss mads
nah how tf is sepp kuss not on this list
It's the official uci ranking, it depends on how many uci points the rider has
It is the official UCI ranking. It is solely based on points - the better the place in the bigger the race, the more points you get (counting back 52 weeks). Kuss of course took a big step up the list (to #16) by finishing nine in TdF and winning the Vuelte, but ultimately did not make top ten before the end of the year.
Not even top 3-5 on his own team. Don't be a fanboy!
No way any had a better year than Jonas… That’s crazy
Wout Motterfucking Aert!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
ist van eart*
Seppie is missing, Primož is the best, cause guess what? he would won the Giro-Vuelta double if he would be free to race. And Tadej is right after him, he had a fantastic season but he did not win any grand tour despite the classics so yeah.😉
Coulda Woulda Shoulda
You do know there is racing besides GCs/3 week tours?
Sepp is 16th in UCI ranking
Yeah he should if he didnt have the crash in the Tour maybe
You realise that Jonas would have won that Vuelta, if they didnt gift it to Sepp. Jonas WAS WAYYY Stronger than Primoz after jonas got rid of his illness
UCI World Tour Rankings do not share the same merit and significance of, say, Tennis Ranking . . . not even close!
Because unlike Tennis, cycling has a lot of variety in the races, when Tennis, well it’s pretty much always the same.
Realistically, the Tour de France should give 10.000 UCI points to the GC winner.