Speaking from the perspective of someone who actually owns a Pantera, the commentary about how "cheap" the car is to work on is completely untrue. Yes, the engine itself isn't expensive to work on, but your wallet will be drained fairly quickly on practically everything else with the car. That "bullet proof" transmission is a ZF 5DS-25 and parts for it are incredibly hard to find and very expensive. There is only one company in the USA that I know of that builds the gearboxes new and most transmission shops won't even touch it. A new gearbox, when last I priced one, is about $16,000. Used ones sell for about half that depending on condition. Even simple body parts like those Carello tail light lenses on the car in the video are expensive. Mine were cracked by the previous owner backing the car into his garage door runner and it took me three months before a pair finally turned up on Ebay. They were nearly $500 for the pair and were shipped from Italy. The Pantera is also known for it's terrible electrical system that is prone to failure.The stock cooling system is inadequate at best for the car. Overheating was (and still is) a common problem for cars that haven't had their entire cooling system upgraded. The cars also rust from the inside out due to bad weatherproofing and sealing. It's also not "easy on the wallet" for maintenance because you won't be taking that thing into Jiffy Lube for an oil change. Even Ford dealerships will turn you away and your local auto parts store has probably never even heard of the car. When you get right down to it, the engine on the car is the only thing that's somewhat inexpensive. But the cost for literally every other aspect of the car is very, very expensive in terms of parts and maintenance and that's before you've even found anyone in your area that's even willing to touch the car if you're not doing the work yourself.
My all time favorite exotic, and one of my top 5 cars I want to own. It’s better looking than a Ferrari or Lamborghini from that era...and the sound of an American muscle car power plant mated to a ZF transmission/transaxle is just the perfect compliment to the looks.
I remember when these Panteras started rolling into the Lincoln-Mercury dealers in the early seventies. I thought it was the most awesomely beautiful car I'd ever seen. It still is. Wonderful styling that's still beautiful today. Yeah, I remember they were pretty pricey, more than I could afford.
I loved the Pantera as a kid, I had a poster of one by my bed. I still love them. I am looking for one right now, I probably will end up with a early 70's and put the GT5-S after market kit on it
i had one 20 years ago , in red , and i tell you honestly, you will not have this car... no one could handle the motor overheating problems these days ...no one !!!!! ...problems over problems , cause of this american engine who could nt cooled down , even at the cold germay aurobahns ...
That 351 V8 in that Pantera powered our Aussie 1971 Ford Falcon XY-GTHO, the worlds fastest 4 door sedan all the way until the Lotus Carlton of the 90's rocked up 😁, this lady is telling the truth about its reliability as it was mainly in our Aussie racecars at that time. 😉👍
The snobs will say the flares are vulgar, but I like them. Those deep concave wheels are beautiful, too. I wouldn't even mind the Countach wing, just to be extra. 😃 Sweet example.
I just heard of this car today, I’m sitting in a Toyota dealership getting my regular car worked on. There is one right here 3 feet away from me in the showroom floor. Holy cow. It looks beautiful.
Uber macho. Crude but gorgeous. I'd say the golden age of supercars, I'm terms of technology and performance, is now, but in terms of styling and charisma, Italian supercars of the 60s, 70s and 80s reign supreme.
Another beautiful car. I’ve always loved these but never wanted to own one. Looks good with the body kit and big tail though. Really liking the videos.
Very enjoyable and informative. Several interesting facts I didn't know. Its super to hear your passion and enthusiasm for these old cars. I love to see these cars driven, not just talked about. More reviews like this please.
Nice work, what a great car, I love the dual soul that it has, the Italian Ford, is it American or Italian, it's both, you get to live in two worlds, what a bigga surprise!
Best of both worlds. Reliable Ford Engine, Italian design. This was truly my favorite of all exotics of all the 80's car with Lamborghini Countach a close second.
Beautiful , I drove in late models and was in love , back in the day in NJ Meadowlands car important , that’s where I seen the most exotic cars and drove on all of them I was only 16 years old and worked cleaning the cars only for a few years then the owner died Joe Mamoro died and then they closed the place , now I am car crazy
I have always loved Panteras but they did have some problems. The often over heated. There was no rustproofing. The electrical system was not great. But over the years fix's were found for all of that so today a well sorted out Pantera can truly be reliable. And the 351 Cleveland motor can make crazy horsepower.
..that's a nice one.....i remember the guy who owned the Lincoln-Mercury dealer near us when i was a kid had an earlier model Pantera.. white one...sometime in the seventies. I remember going to visit it because they parked it in the showroom at times😍😍 ps,..oooooooo look at that blue 360!
I've had my 1972 Pre L Pantera for over 18 years. About years ago, it underwent a complete restoration/modification with a 500hp Cleveland engine update, fuel injection, flush windshield, all leather C4 Corvette seats, leather dash and firewall, and I drive it on canyon runs every weekend. I don't like the wide bodied cars as much as the original svelte Tom Tjaarda design, and really dislike the Countach wing, but all Panteras have a stance that represents the best of Italian Wedge design. And the sound is ferocious!
Talk about aging well. What a gorgeous car. The details are great; gated shifter, mid engine, wedge shape and that small block Ford. Great design. Hell yes for flares, so motorsport. Love (well integrated) flares. Put flares on a lawn tractor and it looks better.
Im not going to lie i was offered a forklift with a bad motor, im concidering rebuilding... now i just want to add flares to it after reading this comment.
1971 Ford 351 Boss Engine which was basically a 351 Cleveland 4V with 4 bolt main, mechanical camshaft/lifters and an aluminum intake manifold. Ford had it rated at 335 BHP but that was wildly low, probably closer to 375 BHP, the Cleveland valves were as big as a big block chevy and were canted like them too. All you had to do was put a big cam and big carb and headers and the BHP would go right to mid to high 400's.
Yeah. The 360 is a wrap so it can be changed easily. Not sure enzo would approve of the gulf livery. You can see more of that car in this video ruclips.net/video/t0vyUVfKfFw/видео.html
You didnt mention the GT4 version with big flares & a wing. I got to drive an early model in '71. The owner trusted me with his new "baby" as we were both racers. He in NHRA & me in the Camel GT series. I remember how well it drove Not race car fast but on the very top end of street legal sports cars.
Apparently later versions fitted with the Windsor units were the least powered, 250hp as opposed to the Clevelands 350hp, with corresponding reduced performance, some were bored out to over 400 cu ins. Still one of the best poster cars alongside the Countach and Boxer.
Has anyone done a performance, handling, ergonomics, and maintenance comparison between the Lamborghini Countach 5000s and the DeTomaso Pantera GT5 or GT5S? A practical review and comparison, something to really compare fun and livability.
Plus for example i would love to do with it is Race on track Drag race Daily Car show's Rally race GT4 track racing Also endurance race To add this on my goal build i would love it even more if it was on my Forza Motorsport game or even the most recent Forza game called Forza Horizon 5 IV gave replays on there wish list ahead of time but they haven't seen it yet i added not just the Pantera to the list his others vehicle to like Mangusta i also really love the GT5 from 82 also my favorite.
Hi Colleen Im a big fan of what you do love your Instagram update's I'm a sucker for Italian cars and I'm obviously American so this is a big special place for my heart. I would love to build one From the ground up or buy one off from someone. My goal after that well i would like it to be my all rounder car to use for me
Will it be nice if you showed a picture of the Agusta the way the panels flip up above the engine he also had a really nice two-door luxury Coupe I forget the name of it it's still date deserves take me and respect I seen a Pantera and one of those troops in real life and their sight to behold
I want that 5 speed in my 70 Mustang behind my Cleveland lol. Something that was missing behind the m code Cleveland Mustang.. I now have a highly modified AOD but a manual gearbox is always better and less headache then automatic
GT5-S looks great with all the integrated detailed fenders and wood dash but it still needs the sharp US spec bumpers. It's not complete without them. About the only car from the 70's that looked good with them.
The Pantera has to be my Top Sport/Gt Car of the 70's the only prroblem is in 1974 they changed to the GTS body style and ruined a beautiful car. Look at a 1971-73 car with the stainless steel bumperettes, that sleek Italian design (penned by an American at Ghia) it had no issue with power or presence, could hold it's own against everything up until the Ferrari Testarossa or maybe the 288GTO. That said it had an incredibly long lifespan and of the two models I had the joy to drive the torque pushes you into your seat no matter where or when you punch the throttle, and like the Ferrari BB512 of the period the DeTomaso could crack 0-6-mph in the 5 second range and after that the Ferrari had to push to catch up eventually passing the Pantera at 160mph on it's way to a rather unsteady 179mph. Now consider the price and cost of ownership between the two cars and when exactly you have a reason to hit 160mph and I think the Pantera wins hands down. But then again I an a bit biased towards the DeTomaso I will admit.
I buy my Pantera GT5S in 1988. I Love Forever this piece of art.
how much did it cost the GT5S in 1988?
@@delbroox 100.000 milion of Italian L'ira. About 66.000 $
@@delbroox about 66.000 $ in the 1988
@@Tommysynth thanks a lot!
Speaking from the perspective of someone who actually owns a Pantera, the commentary about how "cheap" the car is to work on is completely untrue. Yes, the engine itself isn't expensive to work on, but your wallet will be drained fairly quickly on practically everything else with the car. That "bullet proof" transmission is a ZF 5DS-25 and parts for it are incredibly hard to find and very expensive. There is only one company in the USA that I know of that builds the gearboxes new and most transmission shops won't even touch it. A new gearbox, when last I priced one, is about $16,000. Used ones sell for about half that depending on condition. Even simple body parts like those Carello tail light lenses on the car in the video are expensive. Mine were cracked by the previous owner backing the car into his garage door runner and it took me three months before a pair finally turned up on Ebay. They were nearly $500 for the pair and were shipped from Italy.
The Pantera is also known for it's terrible electrical system that is prone to failure.The stock cooling system is inadequate at best for the car. Overheating was (and still is) a common problem for cars that haven't had their entire cooling system upgraded. The cars also rust from the inside out due to bad weatherproofing and sealing. It's also not "easy on the wallet" for maintenance because you won't be taking that thing into Jiffy Lube for an oil change. Even Ford dealerships will turn you away and your local auto parts store has probably never even heard of the car.
When you get right down to it, the engine on the car is the only thing that's somewhat inexpensive. But the cost for literally every other aspect of the car is very, very expensive in terms of parts and maintenance and that's before you've even found anyone in your area that's even willing to touch the car if you're not doing the work yourself.
My all time favorite exotic, and one of my top 5 cars I want to own. It’s better looking than a Ferrari or Lamborghini from that era...and the sound of an American muscle car power plant mated to a ZF transmission/transaxle is just the perfect compliment to the looks.
I'm not even a 'car person' and i LOVED this.
I came across this channel by accident and subscribed. Very informative.
But I must confess, I keep coming back because of Colleen. Stunning lady.
I remember when these Panteras started rolling into the Lincoln-Mercury dealers in the early seventies. I thought it was the most awesomely beautiful car I'd ever seen. It still is. Wonderful styling that's still beautiful today. Yeah, I remember they were pretty pricey, more than I could afford.
They were priced above the Corvette but below the Ferrari Daytona while still being able to keep up with them
@@lnnrt0161 IIRC in 1972 the MSRP was $10K.
Me too.It took a while but I finally might be able to own one☺️
I loved the Pantera as a kid, I had a poster of one by my bed. I still love them. I am looking for one right now, I probably will end up with a early 70's and put the GT5-S after market kit on it
Is the kit strong and good? Looking into one too, share me a link Brother
This is one of my favorite car review channels.
I love Panteras!
I want a Pantera so bad I can taste it...
Licked one once. Do not reccomend.
i had one 20 years ago , in red , and i tell you honestly, you will not have this car...
no one could handle the motor overheating problems these days ...no one !!!!! ...problems over problems , cause of this american engine who could nt cooled down , even at the cold germay aurobahns ...
Gulfstream-TV Studios They are pretty well sorted with a big aluminum rad and updated fans. Overheating is not really a problem anymore.
😂😂😂
@@gulfstream-tvstudios9546 wow! But here they say that the italian cars are of bad reliability....🤣
I have1995 one ton ford van with a 351 Cleveland in it. Thing is so fast. Love this van.
They are definatly strong motors. Big block power never dissapoint.
Truly a slick car, I never heard of before, to me looks actually nicer, than another, more known Italian classics from same period.
That 351 V8 in that Pantera powered our Aussie 1971 Ford Falcon XY-GTHO, the worlds fastest 4 door sedan all the way until the Lotus Carlton of the 90's rocked up 😁, this lady is telling the truth about its reliability as it was mainly in our Aussie racecars at that time. 😉👍
Yeah I agree with you, it looks very nice
The snobs will say the flares are vulgar, but I like them. Those deep concave wheels are beautiful, too. I wouldn't even mind the Countach wing, just to be extra. 😃
Sweet example.
The flares are a serious improvement IMO but I was a little kid in the 80's so I grew up with them that way.
No stupid wing !
I'm a 90's guy, I all I can say is that flares meant business in those rally cars of the 80's and 90's. 😁
Just found your channel! Outstanding! Keep them coming!
Thanks glad you like it!
The car was actually designed by Tom Tjaarda, an American. I was fortunate to meet him a few years before he died. Great guy. Love these cars.
Omg... Can't think of anything more beautiful than a gorgeous woman driving a pantera. ❤️
I just heard of this car today, I’m sitting in a Toyota dealership getting my regular car worked on. There is one right here 3 feet away from me in the showroom floor. Holy cow. It looks beautiful.
A truly masculine car driven by a beautiful woman!! We can ask no more! Love your shifting😉
Thanks!
thci
@Ferraris Online the first ever DeTomaso had a four cylinder Ford engine too.(Valelunga?)
I’m in love. The car is super cool also.
Uber macho. Crude but gorgeous. I'd say the golden age of supercars, I'm terms of technology and performance, is now, but in terms of styling and charisma, Italian supercars of the 60s, 70s and 80s reign supreme.
With the aerodynamics, windtunnels etc. That are used today cars seem to have lost their style and are all starting to look alike.
Another beautiful car. I’ve always loved these but never wanted to own one. Looks good with the body kit and big tail though. Really liking the videos.
Very enjoyable and informative. Several interesting facts I didn't know. Its super to hear your passion and enthusiasm for these old cars.
I love to see these cars driven, not just talked about. More reviews like this please.
Thats the plan. More cars to come.
@@FerrarisOnline Thanks for telling where the logo came from, I always wondered
Doesn’t matter what it looks like with a name like “Pantera “
you know it’s awesome!! you have a very nice voice - I enjoy listening to you.
Nostalgic VID....
Nice work, what a great car, I love the dual soul that it has, the Italian Ford, is it American or Italian, it's both, you get to live in two worlds, what a bigga surprise!
Looks beautiful even today and may be forever, has got that unique distinctive look
Immaculately beautiful car. Thank god it doesn't have that ridiculous Countach wing so many other '80s Panteras have.
I hate that wing even on a Countach!
I saw a couple in my life. Always love them.
Best of both worlds. Reliable Ford Engine, Italian design. This was truly my favorite of all exotics of all the 80's car with Lamborghini Countach a close second.
Beautiful , I drove in late models and was in love , back in the day in NJ Meadowlands car important , that’s where I seen the most exotic cars and drove on all of them I was only 16 years old and worked cleaning the cars only for a few years then the owner died Joe Mamoro died and then they closed the place , now I am car crazy
Hello 👋 very happy to find your channel
I like history of the cars and your channel is exactly what I want 😊🙏
Glad you enjoy it. We new cars coming through our doors all the time, each one has its own story.
But the COUNTACH.......Oh my gosh !!! And the 355 Spyder.....Such a shiver !!!
By an italian this comment has double value !
That’s such a pretty car, Italian styling with a v8 American engine, you gust can’t go wrong.
My absolute dream car!!! 😍😍😍😍
gorgeous and reliable
The car or her?
Excellent Episode!
My favourite Pantera iteration.
That was the perfect car in my mind then. Still is. Nice pants. Subscribed.
現存していたのですねエグゾ-ストノートに心がゆさぶられるような格好いい車ですね
Great review and incredible car 👍
Thank you!
I have always loved Panteras but they did have some problems. The often over heated. There was no rustproofing. The electrical system was not great. But over the years fix's were found for all of that so today a well sorted out Pantera can truly be reliable. And the 351 Cleveland motor can make crazy horsepower.
Big engine in a compact car = heating issues 😁, it's pretty cool you can put better stuff in it now to make it more reliable.
Amazing review on a legendary master piece! Strange I find this channel just now.. Big Up from Bulgaria!
Dream machine right there. Great video!
Thanks!
If I didn't love the Lotus Esprit so much, the Pantera would be my favourite.
..that's a nice one.....i remember the guy who owned the Lincoln-Mercury dealer near us when i was a kid had an earlier model Pantera.. white one...sometime in the seventies.
I remember going to visit it because they parked it in the showroom at times😍😍
ps,..oooooooo look at that blue 360!
Sick! I always like the Pantera. Nice video thanks for the info.😁👍
Glad you enjoyed it. More to come soon.
great shooting thru the trees. Amazing how tiny the car looks against the suv's
Great video.. let see more Pantera or DeTomaso videos..!
There will be more as they come in!
Another great vid! Personal favourite of mine, the detomaso. Thanks.
Thank you. Glad you are enjoying the videos. Many more to come!
Love the Pantera!!!!
I've had my 1972 Pre L Pantera for over 18 years. About years ago, it underwent a complete restoration/modification with a 500hp Cleveland engine update, fuel injection, flush windshield, all leather C4 Corvette seats, leather dash and firewall, and I drive it on canyon runs every weekend. I don't like the wide bodied cars as much as the original svelte Tom Tjaarda design, and really dislike the Countach wing, but all Panteras have a stance that represents the best of Italian Wedge design. And the sound is ferocious!
As an italian i got to say: You americans talk alot with your hands too. Nice Video by the way
This one’s a very nice example.
this is an awesome car, I had one in 1988 the torque is so fun! the ZF tranny was smooth also. good video.
Talk about aging well. What a gorgeous car. The details are great; gated shifter, mid engine, wedge shape and that small block Ford. Great design.
Hell yes for flares, so motorsport. Love (well integrated) flares. Put flares on a lawn tractor and it looks better.
Im not going to lie i was offered a forklift with a bad motor, im concidering rebuilding... now i just want to add flares to it after reading this comment.
Hey that girl knows a lot about cars and she has such an agreable voice. That's cool :)
American reliability. I've never heard that before
The Pantera was designed by Tom Tjarda, actually. Great video! How about a driving video?
My grandfather’s legend
Ur an awsome presenter !! Great job
Thanks!
Damn, it took me 9 min watching this vid to notice there is a car being reviewed. HOT!!!
Marcello's great design!
Great car u go young lady
Gorgeous, and the car as well 😉
Those pants are crazy! Some cowboy boots and a cowboy hat would make you look perfect in the Pantera.
Sweet ride, liked it since I was a kid. Love the new model, hate it's high price.
1971 Ford 351 Boss Engine which was basically a 351 Cleveland 4V with 4 bolt main, mechanical camshaft/lifters and an aluminum intake manifold. Ford had it rated at 335 BHP but that was wildly low, probably closer to 375 BHP, the Cleveland valves were as big as a big block chevy and were canted like them too. All you had to do was put a big cam and big carb and headers and the BHP would go right to mid to high 400's.
That gulf livery Ferrari 360 Challenge is interesting. The interior of the Pantera is typical Italian knowing that the gauges don't point to zero.
Yeah. The 360 is a wrap so it can be changed easily. Not sure enzo would approve of the gulf livery.
You can see more of that car in this video
ruclips.net/video/t0vyUVfKfFw/видео.html
@@FerrarisOnline he'd be rolling in his grave :P
@@FerrarisOnline Ahahah even mr De Tomaso wasn't a quiet person,RIP.
Top notch review ... and interesting kitchen
I see you saw the fridge in the back 🤣
@@FerrarisOnline 🤣🤣
You didnt mention the GT4 version with big flares & a wing.
I got to drive an early model in '71. The owner trusted me with his new "baby" as we were both racers. He in NHRA & me in the Camel GT series. I remember how well it drove
Not race car fast but on the very top end of street legal sports cars.
That was awesome!
God I miss living in Newport Beach, CA
It has its perks.
Apparently later versions fitted with the Windsor units were the least powered, 250hp as opposed to the Clevelands 350hp, with corresponding reduced performance, some were bored out to over 400 cu ins. Still one of the best poster cars alongside the Countach and Boxer.
Has anyone done a performance, handling, ergonomics, and maintenance comparison between the Lamborghini Countach 5000s and the DeTomaso Pantera GT5 or GT5S?
A practical review and comparison, something to really compare fun and livability.
Just find out about your channel, and I like it!
Thanks. Glad you enjoy it
Amazing vid 😁
Thanks, we plan on making a ton more. 😁
Plus for example i would love to do with it is
Race on track
Drag race
Daily
Car show's
Rally race
GT4 track racing
Also endurance race
To add this on my goal build i would love it even more if it was on my Forza Motorsport game or even the most recent Forza game called Forza Horizon 5 IV gave replays on there wish list ahead of time but they haven't seen it yet i added not just the Pantera to the list his others vehicle to like Mangusta i also really love the GT5 from 82 also my favorite.
Nice video
Thanks!
issa beautifule 😲👌👌
(Italian) Beauty and the (American) Beast...❤️🇮🇹🇺🇸❤️🇮🇹🇺🇸❤️🇮🇹🇺🇸❤️🇮🇹🇺🇸
Love it
I want one
Hi Colleen Im a big fan of what you do love your Instagram update's I'm a sucker for Italian cars and I'm obviously American so this is a big special place for my heart. I would love to build one From the ground up or buy one off from someone. My goal after that well i would like it to be my all rounder car to use for me
IV never seen that vehicle in real life before
Will it be nice if you showed a picture of the Agusta the way the panels flip up above the engine he also had a really nice two-door luxury Coupe I forget the name of it it's still date deserves take me and respect I seen a Pantera and one of those troops in real life and their sight to behold
I want that 5 speed in my 70 Mustang behind my Cleveland lol. Something that was missing behind the m code Cleveland Mustang..
I now have a highly modified AOD but a manual gearbox is always better and less headache then automatic
GT5-S looks great with all the integrated detailed fenders and wood dash but it still needs the sharp US spec bumpers. It's not complete without them. About the only car from the 70's that looked good with them.
My mom‘s hairdresser had one of these in his side yard when I was a kid. Couldn’t get rid of it to save his life. Those were the days
If only we grabbed them all and sat on them right?
Ferraris Online I’ve wanted one ever sense that day.
Nice hotrod.
Needs the Pantera spoiler.
I just want a Pantera so I can listen to Pantera in a Pantera
Thats exactly what we did lol
Dream woman.... those pants👀whoa!
The 351 Cleveland was no "lightweight smallblock" with it`s +550lbs
The Bar-T
T for Pantera
The Pantera has to be my Top Sport/Gt Car of the 70's the only prroblem is in 1974 they changed to the GTS body style and ruined a beautiful car. Look at a 1971-73 car with the stainless steel bumperettes, that sleek Italian design (penned by an American at Ghia) it had no issue with power or presence, could hold it's own against everything up until the Ferrari Testarossa or maybe the 288GTO. That said it had an incredibly long lifespan and of the two models I had the joy to drive the torque pushes you into your seat no matter where or when you punch the throttle, and like the Ferrari BB512 of the period the DeTomaso could crack 0-6-mph in the 5 second range and after that the Ferrari had to push to catch up eventually passing the Pantera at 160mph on it's way to a rather unsteady 179mph. Now consider the price and cost of ownership between the two cars and when exactly you have a reason to hit 160mph and I think the Pantera wins hands down. But then again I an a bit biased towards the DeTomaso I will admit.
Saw one in 88 purple with polished aluminum engine bay and trunk! Damn thing changed my life and how I feel about fast cars
That must have been a sight to see. I can only imagine, we sold a yellow pantera last year with a polished engine bay. It was stunning.
Bittersweet car for a Maple Leafs fan. Beautiful car, but the one that killed Tim Horton...
I have been lucky enough to own 4 of them. watch out for rust!
Luckily this one has been restored.
Designed by Pininfarina. Built by Detomaso. GTs came after Ford stopped importing them in 1974.
DeTomaso didn't use the design house Pininfarina. Ghia was frequently used (Tom Tjaarda worked for Ghia) as it was owned by Alejandro de Tomaso.
@@Kellsboro I stand corrected. I should've said "Pininfarina inspired design by Ghia..."
Our family's two 1974 Panteras have the Ghia badge on them.