There's lots of different types of talent in music. What i find interesting is how she is not the best guitar player ever, there are tons and tons of people who are far better than her at guitar. But she's successful not because of her guitar skills or her vocal skills, she's successful because of her creativity, outstanding writing skills and originality.
It's a pop-rock song, dude. It's not meant to be complex at all. Not everything is. Judge songs based on what they're trying to be, not some ridiculous standard of complexity. Some of the most revolutionary rock music of all time is incredibly simple. Similarly, a lot of the most complex guitar rock is looked at as child's play by jazz and classical musicians. It's all relative, and there's room for everything. Music is vast. Don't try to hold everything to the same standard-- that's boring.
it doesn't even matter if she doesn't know the fucking chords and frets… anybody who knows anything about music should know that guitar isn't always about technique…. and the fact that she taught herself to be such a talented musician is even more amazing. :)
@The949080 Lol I like TnS also haha. I am big on lyrics as much as musical ability and I like a few artists/bands who don't know theory and have a good ear. I'm glad you understood my point. When it comes to TnS I applaud their "balls" to do what they do and do it well. I just don't applaud this nowadays-guitar hero-rock band thinking that music is all about playing in bands and making money. Thank you and your brain stem.
2. Seriously? Do you know what a career in music even entails? Do you know what it's like to "slave" at something because you have a passion for it and then get judged by uncultured peons like you for doing so? I'll give you one bit of a save here. Some people pursue an instrument in hopes of being on Q or MTV. But not all musicians are striving for this. Music isn't learned, "slave"d at or taught for "thousands of people [to] pay money to see and sing along with." but ofcourse you wouldn't know
@mycandiebopaudrey: My praise aside, expect the following to possibly/most likely happen: -Tegan to forget the lyrics to at least one of her songs. -Tegan/Sara to request to start a song over -A crazed fan to try to get on stage (this is a new fad unfortunately) -Tons of screaming lesbians in love/wanting carnal relations with Tegan/Sara/both -Everybody singing along to old singles from 'So Jealous'/'If It Was You' the fans are friendly. the artists are down to earth. definitely a fun show.
@mycandiebopaudrey: I may be biased as I am an enthusiastic fan of theirs, but the live shows are very enjoyable. Mostly because Tegan &Sara enjoy doing a lot of what fans refer to as "banter". They go off on hilarious tangents and side stories that include a fair amount of picking on each other (since they are twins after all). They do much less of this as the tour gets on, which I suspect is simply due to exhaustion. Still, I would prefer to hear T & S live over the albums any day.
People's minds work differently personally I can pretty much understand what she's saying but that's just me and being bad at teaching doesn't mean you're entirely crap at the subject. Sara isn't limited when it comes to knowledge of guitars but Tegan is the better guitar player and Sara is the better piano player it's just Sara has a more unique way of playing guitar as Tegan has said. if you listened to Sainthood you can tell that in Sara's songs there's a lack of guitar pieces.
@wackyalex94not taking any sides here, but at times u can tell that she skipped out on basics guitar 101. & sara admitted that T is the better guitar player, i think that's one reason why their music style is different. @ShredST i agree this is a pretty piss poor job at teaching, if the viewer is a beginner. i wouldnt say that she has limited knowledge, i would say she is lacking fundamentals. but what self-taught players lack in fundamentals, they usually make up for in creativity.
My familiarity with Tegan and Sara has nothing to do with the fact the she doesn't even know the names of simple barre chords. The fact that she volunteered to teach this song, while incapable of doing so properly, only highlights her incompetence -- rather than mitigating it, which you seem to think it does. Nobody forced her to look like a fool, she brought it upon herself, which is even more pathetic.
When I said that she doesn't have a clue about how to play guitar, I didn't mean that she can't actually play the instrument. Clearly, she can. What I meant was that she doesn't have a grasp of the fundamentals, like knowing the names of the notes on the E and A strings. (Knowing this, she could have told us the chords she was playing.) This is her trade. She should have some more pride and learn her instrument better.
@ShredST I'm going to have to cut into your argument with blake503, just to counter something you said. you said that Sara Quin has an extremely limited knowledge of guitar playing. Dude I must disagree. She's been playing guitar for 15 years, and created her own music for about 10 or 11. she may not have any knowledge of the names of guitar chords, but that's because she's a self taught guitar player , which in my opinion does not make her extremely limited in guitar playing.
Okay. So you do acknowledge that this video is terrible at teaching? I don't see how pointing out mistakes is wrong. I guess I'm motivated by the fact the majority of the viewers seem to be oblivious to the fact that this is a bad lesson video and Sara Quin has an extreme limited knowledge of guitar playing. I'm just trying to add some negativity to balance it out, which I think is reasonable. I'm just reactionary, I guess.
@The949080 Wow - you are SO wrong. Sara is a very acomplished guitar player. Just look at videos like "The Con by Tegan and Sara - SONiC Session " - those stretches are real giuitar player stuff - not amateur hour. Tegan and Sara could probably play 99% of most guitar music - the rest can be laft to the Satrianis Vai and Van Halen wannabes
So what if it's a bad lesson? Anyone who already knows how to play barre chords and stuff would get it. She gave everyone the chord positions, which was probably her only intention. Anybody who didn't get it should probably keep learning or take more lessons. It's a simple song. No need to write a novel on how to play it.
I never suggested that one must know the fundamentals of guitar in order to be a competent guitarist. I was just a bit gobsmacked that before going on a program, the aim of which was to teach people how to play one of her songs, that she didn't even bother to learn the names of the chords. That's just pure laziness -- if not incompetence.
@SophieeElizabethH94 I think she knows what the chords are (at least what many of them are), she just doesn't know the names of them. My guess is that when she was a girl, someone probably showed her a few basic chords, and then she just played around with them, she played whatever sounded good to her ear.
I watched this video, because youtube for some reason recommended it to me. Basically your whole post boils down to something like "haters gonna hate", and that I'm a loser for saying anything bad about Sara Quin. This whole "if you're so good why don't you blah blah blah" doesn't really work as an argument. Sorry.
I love how people insist on trashing Sara just because she doesn't know a lot about guitar. If you know so much about it and are so amazing at guitar then why aren't you in the video teaching us? Oh that's right, because you're not in a famous band. But Sara is, and she's super cute, so get over it.
im not saying it's useless, but it'll be hard to learn the song from it, obviously. what i AM saying is that if people want to learn how to play the song, they should go look up the tabs for it instead of posting pointless comments about how it's so hard to learn.
which is a distinction that makes next to no difference when the whole thing is pretty much root notes fifth's and octaves... or in other words what most people know as the typical power cord. Which makes more sense in this context even if it's not technically perfect.
calm down. not everyone needs to know the fundamentals of guitar playing to be a good player and know a thing or two. it's sara, look at her. she's cute. i dont think anyone really cares if she knows a lot about guitar. their music is great, and thats all that matters.
@XOXOLiveLoveXOXO ohh ok good im not the only one i think its the way her lips move and they way she talks and eye movement . in her old picture were she had the long hair she looked like sidney from scream.. not pushing it lol
I never said being a " technically fantastic guitar player" was important -- or that it makes you a better songwriter. I never called her out for her lack of ability as a songwriter. I simply said that she doesn't understand the fundamentals.
hahaha steel panther? I don't know anything about steel panther, but I doubt any of them actually take themselves seriously. I'm also pretty sure that you're feeling rather morally superior to me. What are you trying to say anyway?
Who the fuc`k cares if she doesn't know the names of the chords? I judge music by whether I like it or not, not how much music training the performer has. Some of the most boring players I have heard were very technical and had lots of music theory knowledge.
@WtfItsSarah ? as in don't have the strength or haven't learned it? your basic bar chord shapes are pretty easy to play, if you don't have the strength then perhaps you need to have the action on your guitar lowered.
@E2theWill @E2theWill Yes. It's called a cut out guitar. But for this, if you can't reach the 12th fret, then you can play the same chord like this: e- 7 B- 7 G- 9 D- 9 A - 7 E - x It's an E chord.
No, but I'm a better guitarist than she is. :D Your logic doesn't make sense anyway. It's like saying I can't bitch about a video game being bad unless I can make one. Do I have to be Indian to hate Indian food?
She may not know anything about guitar, and there's nothing wrong with that, but she's also an absolutely horrible teacher. She doesn't seem to realize that there's more than one chord possible per fret!
okay okay. im guessing you're not too familiar with tegan and sara. if you were then you would know that she's just being funny and cute. it's not a big deal. it's not being lazy, it's just who she is.
So before you start to spam this page with the word lesbian, yes, we perfectly know and understand that Sara Quin is a lesbian. so just move on. back to the video....... I like Sara's shirt. :)
If she's not gonna name the chords, at least explain the freaking fingering, since the camera angle obscures her fingers at times. If this video is gonna be any bit useful, it should at least have that.
@Fraeg My fingers aren't strong enough to bar yet. I just recently got my guitar not too long ago and I haven't really developed enough strength to keep my finger down.
@ AirrickakaEric lmao i think they need to keep working on that "isnt it your voice and a delegate chipmunks"lol from now on im watching all videos this way,way funnier
I love how she looks awkward with the instrument. And so does the guy from Malajube on the other video. Can't remember chord names, just know how to create amazing songs. ^^
Is she cute? Yes. Does she have a fucking clue about how to play guitar? No. "I don't know anything about the guitar." - Sara Quin, saying this in this video.
Apparently major and minor chords are everything you need to know to be a musician. :S I'm seriously astonished by how little she knows about guitar playing.
for people looking for the chords, the verse is in the key of f sharp, the chords in order are, F sharp minor (ninth fret), D (tenth fret), E (twelfth fret), then a key change to C sharp. the chords in that key in order are, C sharp minor (fourth fret), A (fifth fret), and B (seventh fret), A (fifth fret).
Jesus Christ on a stick she's absolutely adorable.
That's why she said "watch", 'cause you can clearly see the chord shape doesn't change.
This is super adorable
Yes
@hqwad its just a basic powerchord position...
@weirdscene2 Martin
i thought tht was funny too
EMO
plenty of pretentious guitar wankers couldn't write a song this good if their lives depended on it.
There's lots of different types of talent in music. What i find interesting is how she is not the best guitar player ever, there are tons and tons of people who are far better than her at guitar. But she's successful not because of her guitar skills or her vocal skills, she's successful because of her creativity, outstanding writing skills and originality.
It's a pop-rock song, dude. It's not meant to be complex at all. Not everything is. Judge songs based on what they're trying to be, not some ridiculous standard of complexity. Some of the most revolutionary rock music of all time is incredibly simple. Similarly, a lot of the most complex guitar rock is looked at as child's play by jazz and classical musicians. It's all relative, and there's room for everything. Music is vast. Don't try to hold everything to the same standard-- that's boring.
i love how she's not making excuses for not remb the chord names she's so adorable i want her to teach me to play all the songs!!
"It's simple"
"That's it, it's simple"
it doesn't even matter if she doesn't know the fucking chords and frets…
anybody who knows anything about music should know that guitar isn't always about technique…. and the fact that she taught herself to be such a talented musician is even more amazing. :)
words can't express how much i love this girl ♥
the hands...
"And then the 12th fret....no. Yes." Aw too adorable! I love Sara.
F#m D E are the first three chords she plays. Then the chord starting on the 4th fret are C#m A B.
She is such a cutie pie!!!! Just got a T&S shirt in the mail today. I'll wear it to the beach this summer. :)
thats it. its simple lol she is so cute
her laugh at 1:06 got me dead
She is ♡♡♡♡
this really shows what an amazing song writer she is
@The949080 Lol I like TnS also haha. I am big on lyrics as much as musical ability and I like a few artists/bands who don't know theory and have a good ear. I'm glad you understood my point. When it comes to TnS I applaud their "balls" to do what they do and do it well. I just don't applaud this nowadays-guitar hero-rock band thinking that music is all about playing in bands and making money. Thank you and your brain stem.
2. Seriously? Do you know what a career in music even entails? Do you know what it's like to "slave" at something because you have a passion for it and then get judged by uncultured peons like you for doing so? I'll give you one bit of a save here. Some people pursue an instrument in hopes of being on Q or MTV. But not all musicians are striving for this. Music isn't learned, "slave"d at or taught for "thousands of people [to] pay money to see and sing along with." but ofcourse you wouldn't know
@mycandiebopaudrey: My praise aside, expect the following to possibly/most likely happen:
-Tegan to forget the lyrics to at least one of her songs.
-Tegan/Sara to request to start a song over
-A crazed fan to try to get on stage (this is a new fad unfortunately)
-Tons of screaming lesbians in love/wanting carnal relations with Tegan/Sara/both
-Everybody singing along to old singles from 'So Jealous'/'If It Was You'
the fans are friendly. the artists are down to earth. definitely a fun show.
@mycandiebopaudrey: I may be biased as I am an enthusiastic fan of theirs, but the live shows are very enjoyable. Mostly because Tegan &Sara enjoy doing a lot of what fans refer to as "banter". They go off on hilarious tangents and side stories that include a fair amount of picking on each other (since they are twins after all). They do much less of this as the tour gets on, which I suspect is simply due to exhaustion. Still, I would prefer to hear T & S live over the albums any day.
People's minds work differently personally I can pretty much understand what she's saying but that's just me and being bad at teaching doesn't mean you're entirely crap at the subject. Sara isn't limited when it comes to knowledge of guitars but Tegan is the better guitar player and Sara is the better piano player it's just Sara has a more unique way of playing guitar as Tegan has said. if you listened to Sainthood you can tell that in Sara's songs there's a lack of guitar pieces.
@wackyalex94not taking any sides here, but at times u can tell that she skipped out on basics guitar 101. & sara admitted that T is the better guitar player, i think that's one reason why their music style is different.
@ShredST i agree this is a pretty piss poor job at teaching, if the viewer is a beginner. i wouldnt say that she has limited knowledge, i would say she is lacking fundamentals. but what self-taught players lack in fundamentals, they usually make up for in creativity.
My familiarity with Tegan and Sara has nothing to do with the fact the she doesn't even know the names of simple barre chords. The fact that she volunteered to teach this song, while incapable of doing so properly, only highlights her incompetence -- rather than mitigating it, which you seem to think it does. Nobody forced her to look like a fool, she brought it upon herself, which is even more pathetic.
When I said that she doesn't have a clue about how to play guitar, I didn't mean that she can't actually play the instrument. Clearly, she can. What I meant was that she doesn't have a grasp of the fundamentals, like knowing the names of the notes on the E and A strings. (Knowing this, she could have told us the chords she was playing.) This is her trade. She should have some more pride and learn her instrument better.
@ShredST I'm going to have to cut into your argument with blake503, just to counter something you said. you said that Sara Quin has an extremely limited knowledge of guitar playing. Dude I must disagree. She's been playing guitar for 15 years, and created her own music for about 10 or 11. she may not have any knowledge of the names of guitar chords, but that's because she's a self taught guitar player , which in my opinion does not make her extremely limited in guitar playing.
Okay. So you do acknowledge that this video is terrible at teaching? I don't see how pointing out mistakes is wrong. I guess I'm motivated by the fact the majority of the viewers seem to be oblivious to the fact that this is a bad lesson video and Sara Quin has an extreme limited knowledge of guitar playing. I'm just trying to add some negativity to balance it out, which I think is reasonable. I'm just reactionary, I guess.
@The949080 Wow - you are SO wrong. Sara is a very acomplished guitar player. Just look at videos like "The Con by Tegan and Sara - SONiC Session " - those stretches are real giuitar player stuff - not amateur hour. Tegan and Sara could probably play 99% of most guitar music - the rest can be laft to the Satrianis Vai and Van Halen wannabes
So what if it's a bad lesson? Anyone who already knows how to play barre chords and stuff would get it. She gave everyone the chord positions, which was probably her only intention. Anybody who didn't get it should probably keep learning or take more lessons. It's a simple song. No need to write a novel on how to play it.
I never suggested that one must know the fundamentals of guitar in order to be a competent guitarist. I was just a bit gobsmacked that before going on a program, the aim of which was to teach people how to play one of her songs, that she didn't even bother to learn the names of the chords. That's just pure laziness -- if not incompetence.
@SophieeElizabethH94
I think she knows what the chords are (at least what many of them are), she just doesn't know the names of them. My guess is that when she was a girl, someone probably showed her a few basic chords, and then she just played around with them, she played whatever sounded good to her ear.
I watched this video, because youtube for some reason recommended it to me. Basically your whole post boils down to something like "haters gonna hate", and that I'm a loser for saying anything bad about Sara Quin. This whole "if you're so good why don't you blah blah blah" doesn't really work as an argument. Sorry.
I love how people insist on trashing Sara just because she doesn't know a lot about guitar. If you know so much about it and are so amazing at guitar then why aren't you in the video teaching us? Oh that's right, because you're not in a famous band. But Sara is, and she's super cute, so get over it.
im not saying it's useless, but it'll be hard to learn the song from it, obviously.
what i AM saying is that if people want to learn how to play the song, they should go look up the tabs for it instead of posting pointless comments about how it's so hard to learn.
which is a distinction that makes next to no difference when the whole thing is pretty much root notes fifth's and octaves... or in other words what most people know as the typical power cord. Which makes more sense in this context even if it's not technically perfect.
calm down.
not everyone needs to know the fundamentals of guitar playing to be a good player and know a thing or two.
it's sara, look at her. she's cute. i dont think anyone really cares if she knows a lot about guitar. their music is great, and thats all that matters.
@XOXOLiveLoveXOXO ohh ok good im not the only one i think its the way her lips move and they way she talks and eye movement . in her old picture were she had the long hair she looked like sidney from scream..
not pushing it lol
I never said being a " technically fantastic guitar player" was important -- or that it makes you a better songwriter. I never called her out for her lack of ability as a songwriter. I simply said that she doesn't understand the fundamentals.
hahaha steel panther? I don't know anything about steel panther, but I doubt any of them actually take themselves seriously. I'm also pretty sure that you're feeling rather morally superior to me. What are you trying to say anyway?
Who the fuc`k cares if she doesn't know the names of the chords? I judge music by whether I like it or not, not how much music training the performer has. Some of the most boring players I have heard were very technical and had lots of music theory knowledge.
@WtfItsSarah ? as in don't have the strength or haven't learned it? your basic bar chord shapes are pretty easy to play, if you don't have the strength then perhaps you need to have the action on your guitar lowered.
@E2theWill
@E2theWill Yes. It's called a cut out guitar. But for this, if you can't reach the 12th fret, then you can play the same chord like this:
e- 7
B- 7
G- 9
D- 9
A - 7
E - x
It's an E chord.
No, but I'm a better guitarist than she is. :D Your logic doesn't make sense anyway. It's like saying I can't bitch about a video game being bad unless I can make one. Do I have to be Indian to hate Indian food?
She may not know anything about guitar, and there's nothing wrong with that, but she's also an absolutely horrible teacher. She doesn't seem to realize that there's more than one chord possible per fret!
okay okay. im guessing you're not too familiar with tegan and sara. if you were then you would know that she's just being funny and cute. it's not a big deal. it's not being lazy, it's just who she is.
So before you start to spam this page with the word lesbian, yes, we perfectly know and understand that Sara Quin is a lesbian. so just move on.
back to the video....... I like Sara's shirt. :)
If she's not gonna name the chords, at least explain the freaking fingering, since the camera angle obscures her fingers at times. If this video is gonna be any bit useful, it should at least have that.
@Fraeg
My fingers aren't strong enough to bar yet. I just recently got my guitar not too long ago and I haven't really developed enough strength to keep my finger down.
@ AirrickakaEric lmao i think they need to keep working on that "isnt it your voice and a delegate chipmunks"lol from now on im watching all videos this way,way funnier
I love how she looks awkward with the instrument. And so does the guy from Malajube on the other video. Can't remember chord names, just know how to create amazing songs. ^^
Is she cute? Yes. Does she have a fucking clue about how to play guitar? No. "I don't know anything about the guitar." - Sara Quin, saying this in this video.
Apparently major and minor chords are everything you need to know to be a musician. :S I'm seriously astonished by how little she knows about guitar playing.
@E2theWill YES. I have that same problem, so I put the same chord somewhere else.. But I always get really confused and frustrated when I play it haha
She may not know her frets, but hey, she doesn't use a pick, so that's good in my books.
I sort of wish she'd done a more difficult song though.
@The949080
I seriously hope they'll have their entire albums on xbl to download. My gosh, I'd play the shit out of any of their albums.
don't know where you're getting the vibe that i'm angry from, "doll," but not only am i not angry, i'm also not a lesbian. good try though!
No, it doesn't. You clearly see how her fingers are placed through out the video, which is to say you see it's all the typical power cord.
I'm so bad with fret too!! Haha, i ingraved the neck of my guitar and wrote the roman number, to not have to count them anymore!!
totally LOVE T&S- and this is their best song. and she is so cute. i don't know why, but she reminds me of alyssa milano in a strange way.
idk i love sara but their something in her that reminds me of nick Jonas Idk Why maybe ITs her Mouth idk... Dont get mad at me.
she played this song in vegas march 2010, all I could think was wow, only one bar chord, damn the strumming at first though.
Damn, I have so much trouble making those damn bar chords, I'm not going to be able to learn how to play this song anytime soon. :P
simple. cute. amazing jaw line. (i don't know what that has to do with this vid, but sara is just too irresistible)
Lol. Sara, you so fucking adorable :) & her hands. Unfff.
& believe it or not this actually helped me xD aha.
This vid is like one of my dreams where tegan and Sara kick my music teacher out and teach us music instead xP
HAHAHAHAHA! I now have to cover this song while I sing "I was balking at the cost..."
It made really happy that she said i don't know anything about the guitar cause I'm the same way with it
i play guitar, and now i dont feel so bad about knowing nothing about it, i just play how i feel it :P
shes playing F Sharp, D ,E, then the next part is C Sharp, A, then B. and the chord shape is an "E" shape.
She doesn't have a clue what she's talking about.
"It's just moved up into a different key."
um...wut
I wasn't talking about a video, you said you love Sara'a nose, and i said i love Tegan's nose
@tacoboiiz Ehh who cares? Power chords: 9th fret, 10th fret, 12 fret. 4th fret, 5th fret, 7th fret.
they should do a vid for knife going in :)
i can figure it out by ear but it takes me a bit
my bad the chord shape on the second string is A minor but the chords on the E string are E shape.
This is only a lesson by Sara Quin not Tegan and Sara. It should be noted in the tittle.
did your girlfriend leave you for some super hot lesbian? :( is that why you're so sad?
1:06 SOOOO CUTE
"make your voice sound a bit like a chipmunk and a bit like Cyndi Lauper"
Haha.
In her own words, sara is a cross between a chipmunk and cyndi lauper. ace :D
finally someone who is just playing and gives a damn about notes and shit!
oh im sorry sara was teaching me how to play a song...
i was distracted ^_^
for people looking for the chords, the verse is in the key of f sharp, the chords in order are, F sharp minor (ninth fret), D (tenth fret), E (twelfth fret), then a key change to C sharp. the chords in that key in order are, C sharp minor (fourth fret), A (fifth fret), and B (seventh fret), A (fifth fret).
@erikfrusciante Ohh ok, my bad (I've forgotten basically all of my guitar terms)
@The949080 Did you watch "The Con by Tegan and Sara - SONiC Session " /
ha, sara trying to teach others to play a guitar? now ive seen it all.
hey guys, guess what? i just played guitar with sara quin.
life=made.
Then i will tell you.. The chords where Am followed by Em mwhahahaha
@The949080
Finally! Some good music to jam too! Hell yeah!
HATERS GONNA HATE!!!! sara knows how to dust all of you off.
@ataoldotcom you just summed up my argument point, thanks. :)
@cathrinebuhaug No in this video apparently not. ;)
hahahaha, now I see the other comments. nevermind. =P
I was replying to guy who said they are all power chords.
@password19822 oh shes tiny alright.. (and adorable)
She needs to make a DVD! :D Thanks, Sara! *plays WWAG*