" How are you going to defeat a being of godlike power " Q: " someone called for being with god like power if anyone's going to destroy this. Universe is going to be me and the continuum not some petulant arrogant child. "
I really enjoyed that initial briefing with all of our allies assembled in one place. I love this kind of "all hands on deck" scenario. The Federation, the Empire, the Republic, and the Dominion, along with the Alliance representatives and various subdivisions such as intelligence and medical officers. Quite a reminder of the journey we've been on for all these years. The flagships arrayed outside the window is a nice touch, not to mention all of the famous individuals we've come to know.
And so, from across the Khitomer Alliance, characters from different factions, arcs, and series all stand united in large numbers. But in this case unfortunately, that is not enough. Not even with Kurland there. That way this video ended; no music, just a half minute of silence to convey how dire the situation is. I recall first seeing that scene when I played this mission. The Olympian that is Jupiter has fallen, now all that can be done is delay Earth from suffering the same.
So nice to see all of the characters from earlier STO stories gathered together to fight a new galactic menace. Been eagerly awaiting this next chapter of the current storyline, so it’ll be interesting to see how it all turns out.
I loved the ending to the Tarren Gambit arc and the amazing amount of detail put in. Also really enjoyed how it humanized the Tarren's overall. There not just these Game of Thrones/Star Wars Empire style characters anymore.
Neat, more STOSS! Your series has been and continues to be very valuable to me, someone who doesn't have the patience to engage with an MMO. This gives me the story in an arguably even more entertaining way, given your impeccable narration. It's great comfort food.
I wonder if they'll add the Protostar to STO seeing as that ship class is now canon (for what canon is worth these days). As for Jupiter, well, that probably screwed up the gravitational balance of the system.
I love how the last few missions brought more complexity to Terrans. They are evil, but still human. She loved her son, but still kept emotional distance and appearances. Just as the death of Kuumaarke showed that they aren't as cold as they pretend to be.
I do find it kind of funny that a lot of the same people who compalin about DIS and PIC not following "Gene's vision" are so down on the end of an STO arc that seems totally in line with Gene's vision. I mean, it's not really that different from how TMP ended when you get down to it, just with a lot more characters involved. I think some people just like to complain, and will look for any excuse to do it, even if it makes them look like hypocrites.
Your right about that I loved the ending to the Tarren Gambit arc and the amazing amount of detail put in. Also really enjoyed how it humanized the Tarren's overall. There not just these Game of Thrones/Star Wars Empire style characters anymore.
I really have my distaste’s for them but honestly because their direction and writing in their origin source. The behind STO are miracle workers I can tolerate a lot of the disco characters presence even more thx to STO
The thing I most hate about the new _Trek_ series, but especially about _DISCO_ , is that everyone is a jerk to everyone else. I watched all of season 1 because I got it from the library, and found it both physically and emotionally difficult to watch. I waited and hoped for it to improve and return some hope to the story and characters, but it never did. And I have no wish to watch it now that I know there are zero stakes and no tension thanks to the characters basically having magical technology that can do anything at will, on a ship that can go anywhere, anywhen, also at will, and has as its captain, an individual who the plot won't let lose. _STP_ continued the drab feel, and added to that the crime of not only killing off a number of the franchise's legacy characters, but assassinating the characters of those who survived: Make no mistake, Picard like Icheb and Data, is dead. A simulacrum walks around with his appearance and memories, but that is not the Jean-Luc Picard who dedicated his life to Starfleet's best ideals, but a strange JL Picard instead. I fully expect the other legacy characters to be killed off or sent away like Tilly before long. I also expect, because we've seen it across the different _Trek_ series, to see our favourite legacy ship designs beaten by the new, 'better' designs. I expect Lore and Moriarty to be bastardized and killed off just like Q was, or maybe they'll become embittered drinkers with trigger-happy fingers like Seven of Nine. _Lesser Decks_ got hit somewhat worse, with Starfleet officers behaving like high schoolers, and disregarding harm to their colleagues, whether physical or emotional. As nice as the TNG/DS9 aesthetic was, I just couldn't get past seeing Mariner carve a path of destruction through her whole crew, destroying her ship, just to get a shot at her mother. It doesn't matter that it was a holodeck program, that should have sent a report to the ship's councilor or a Starfleet psychiatrist to have her re-evaluated as an officer. But of course, nothing was done. I can't help feeling Mariner would have been far happier as the captain of a merchant marine vessel, helping out wherever she saw fit. Essentially she and Rio could have swapped places, and both of them would have been happier. _Prodigy_ is probably the best of the new series, given there was far less room to blatantly signal the Message than in the other series. The _Prodigy_ crew actually helped each other and cooperated, when Gwyn wasn't trying to kill everyone else. Despite having characters that looked more at home in a _Star Wars_ series, this felt a lot more like a _Star Trek_ story than the other ones. Of course, given the presence of so many jerks on those other series, it's not a high bar. I haven't seen much of _Strange New Worlds_ , but I have heard a mixed bag of comments. Some things work well, and other things do not. It could work, but I think the vision the writers want to share would be better-served either outside of _Trek_ altogether, or in an era that would be all their own to play with. Sort of like _DISCO_ after the time jump, but only moreso, since there would be nothing familiar in a new time to reference. Then, free of the fetters of _Trek_ lore, the writers and producers could show whether or not they can also write something free of Message lectures. You'll note that most of my complaints relate to character and character development, but story is also a huge factor. Most of the things I like have them well-written, while the things I dislike focus more on visual spectacle, and have less substance. The latter, sadly, has been true of most Western 'entertainment' recently. It doesn't give me much hope for the future of our culture, especially when so much effort is spent vilifying our legacy heroes and tearing down at their legacies.
I think the writing could have hinted a bit earlier that he wasn't totally uncaring, but I agree that the ending of the arc was very classic Trek and it worked fine for me.
If you're the leader of the klingons and you go out by the enemy blowing up the station you are watching the battle on, does that technically count as dying in battle and mean you go to sto-vo-kor?
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Indeed you stayed at your post in battle and died as direct result of enemy actions, even Klingons recognize that there's people who need to stand back and control the flow of battle. You get sent to Grethor if you run from due to fear but the wind respects no fool and there's times even Klingons have to fall back if only the get to a better position to fight back and there's times when a Klingon has to stand back to better bring victory and glory to their house.
I'm hoping Admiral Hale is also going to play the 2 side missions that are a part of the 13th anniversary, since they give background on events in this arc, and it'd be amusing to hear Hale's running commentary about them.
He did play the Patrol side mission Atleast, after bc it’s a simulation of previous events. And if you mean the ground TFO, he already did that. The space TFO isn’t really too much different then the stuff he already covered so eh
One thing I do enjoy from what we see of Beverly Crusher is that while there is that slight hard edge of her she is a Terran after all. There is still that strong Maternal Instinct & if you expand this to what we see in the Bird Cage TFO. Someone that has the ability to recognise that a monster should be reigned in.
"How do you intend to defeat a being of godlike power" "We have established contact with one who knows him well." Read: We told his mother on him. Actually, that does have a proven track record in Star Trek; it's just crazy enough to work.
Given how this mission ends, I feel like the creators realized the had a huge naming opportunity. It struck me as odd that people in the Mirror Universe would call C'Quer, "The Other". The other what? What is their frame of reference? The Seeker is a much cooler sounding name, and had malevolent and benevolent implications. Sure Seeker can be seen as a synonym for Explorer, but there are also the implications with Hunter-Seeker, and Seeker Missiles, which gives it a nice dual meaning based on intent.
"12th power energy field detected" (I assume this means 10^12 watts, which is about the power output of a small star.. so yeah) "They're here!" You mean that purple object filling up half the sky? That would have been visible from here while it was still in a completely different stellar system? I guess those are some damned fine sensors. 😁
3:30 Reincarnated? Cloned? Reinclonated! 7:30 When you need 7 minutes just to list all the easter Egg Characters. 8:00 You needed 8 minutes for introductions. 8.3 Lightminutes is the earth-sun distance. And the earth-sun distance is exactly how 1 AU is defined.
True, but what exactly can you do in universe? I mean Wesley still has starship destruction level of power. There is no prison you can feasibly hold him, and because of his stupid levels of personal power even killing him would be down right impossible,
@@Arrowthorne This was not a well written arc. Kirk took down gods every other week. As poor as this mission was narratively, visually it was an absolute high water mark for STO. Just breathtaking.
I have completed this one last night. I have finally gotten the former U.S.S Voyager crewmembers : Vice Admiral Kathryn Janeway [First Officer and Mother], Rear Admiral Tuvok ( Former Tactical Officer and Chief of Security) and Captains Tom Paris [ Former Helsman and Flight Navigation] --Harry Kim [Commanding Officer U.S.S Rhode Island --Former Engineering Officer) 😊😊. My crew looks different. The best moment for me. I have been a cadet at Starfleet Academy --Studying Wave Interfence-- under Vice Admiral Kathryn Janeway. She has helped me defeating Borg, Vaadwaur and Undine ( Takedown and All That Glitters) ❤❤❤ . 3 Admirals and 2 Captains ❤❤
@@nathanblue5548 Not completely correct. Captain Kim is more of a temporal clone. For a few hours there where two voyagers in the exact same point in this universe. Just out barley out of phase. Until one voyager blew up to save the other.
Minor nitpick: Very early in the video you put The Other's size at 2AU (astronomical units, or approx twice the distance from the Sun-Earth). You said this 2AU size dwarfs the Sol system, but the distance from the edge of the Heliopause to Sol is about 90AU. While absolutely massive, The Other only dwarfs the entirety of the inner planets not our whole solar system. I love the Trek vids. Keep up the good work.
@@markfergerson2145 I know right, the cloud's size isn't even consistent in TMP. Nunna, maintaining a consistent scale requires a concept of the dimensions involved, which your average joe doesn't have, the sizes of everything are just too big for that.
ohhh staticool i see a very cool CAITIAN and blue too oh id love to have this game if you could be one of this color as the starting character big time i love CAITIAN's they are too cool for words,
So I am guessing the Romulan Star Empire didn't send anyone to at least say "hi" at the delegation? I know their presence is much diminished, but they are still on the maps .
On the maps, yes. Important enough to matter? Not really. The Star Empire is a miniscule, tarnished shadow of what it once was. They have almost no military power, and what little they do have is currently pointed inwards. And with the Tal Shiar effectively gone and Sela still missing, there's no one who could feasibly be called a leader among the Star Empire's remnants. Why should Starfleet, or anyone else give them a seat at such an important conference?
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Sure, although the index doesn't really depend on other videos. You're right, but I still have some hope. ^^ Maybe he surprises us with another vid on this topic, maybe not.
This was interesting and all that but they never did address the race of machines that supposedly built the vger ship or where they are. I'd like to see that.
.....It digitized Jupiter. .............Well.......crap.......hold up we have weapons that can blow up a solar system with one torpedo. .....(evil grin)
According to Wikipedia Fujiwhara is: When two hurricanes spinning in the same direction pass close enough to each other, they begin an intense dance around their common center. If one hurricane is a lot stronger than the other, the smaller one will orbit it and eventually come crashing into its vortex to be absorbed.
Fall back? Yeah fall back to Klingon territory defending earth is a waste of time. Without Jupiter solar system is fucked anyway. That just threw all kinds of orbits into chaos.
Oh thank God, Harry Kim didn't get screwed out of being a Captain, again. Also, did they really name that ship/entity "The Other"? That's giving me major Black Mirror vibes and it feels political. I pray I'm wrong and its just lazy writing, but still, weird.
To be fair, Illea was the one to call it "The Other" first whichbis in reference to it being another V'Ger. The Khitomer Alliance just called it "The Other" afterwards for ease of identification, after all they didn't know it was named C'Qer (Conquerer).
"How do you intend to defeat a being of godlike power?"
"We're going to tell his Mom."
Ha ha ha.
" How are you going to defeat a being of godlike power "
Q: " someone called for being with god like power if anyone's going to destroy this. Universe is going to be me and the continuum not some petulant arrogant child. "
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Don't laugh too hard just yet...wait until you see the ending.
@@VulpisFoxfire I played this episode the day it came out thought it was a great ending.
@@wolfbane7497 Ah, the Q Continuum.
The briefing scene with SO many STO characters was such a delight to see for myself when I ran the mission. Even Kurland was here!
KURLAND THERE!
The detail of characters in this episode was really amazing overall.
*KURLAND HERE*
You were surprised Kurland was here?
The ending to this episode was great.
I really enjoyed that initial briefing with all of our allies assembled in one place. I love this kind of "all hands on deck" scenario.
The Federation, the Empire, the Republic, and the Dominion, along with the Alliance representatives and various subdivisions such as intelligence and medical officers. Quite a reminder of the journey we've been on for all these years. The flagships arrayed outside the window is a nice touch, not to mention all of the famous individuals we've come to know.
Captain Nog... you wanted me blubbering, didn't you?
The ending of this episode left me with shivers. I can't wait for the next one
I had the same reaction when The Other destroyed Jupiter.
same. just stunned silence before giving the order to fall back.
Not to mention the Bortasqu.
"..."
"ALLCON, this is Daystar... Disengage and flow to 170."
And so, from across the Khitomer Alliance, characters from different factions, arcs, and series all stand united in large numbers. But in this case unfortunately, that is not enough. Not even with Kurland there.
That way this video ended; no music, just a half minute of silence to convey how dire the situation is. I recall first seeing that scene when I played this mission. The Olympian that is Jupiter has fallen, now all that can be done is delay Earth from suffering the same.
The sound design of V'ger was and still is a masterpiece
Craig Huxley returned to use his incredible blaster beam for it so yeah it’s the same sound tech from the original appearance of V’Ger
This is what I love about STO.
Sol system just got a lot more roomy!
Honestly , I liked this arc for what it was, yes, I do agree that it has its flaws but I like how it presents itself
The writing on this game is really starting to push main line trek in many aspects. And the way you narrate organize it all is always appreciated.
That ending!
Was impressive.
So nice to see all of the characters from earlier STO stories gathered together to fight a new galactic menace. Been eagerly awaiting this next chapter of the current storyline, so it’ll be interesting to see how it all turns out.
Great job on this and keep up the fantastic work.
Love the Kurland Here jokes heh
Jupiter Station I could understand, but when he got Jupiter that was a freak out moment. They did excellent work on this.
I have sooo been waiting for this to come back! Thank you so much for such a wonderful episode.
I loved the ending to the Tarren Gambit arc and the amazing amount of detail put in. Also really enjoyed how it humanized the Tarren's overall. There not just these Game of Thrones/Star Wars Empire style characters anymore.
This mission had a lot of fun moments. Honestly enjoyed it a lot.
Neat, more STOSS! Your series has been and continues to be very valuable to me, someone who doesn't have the patience to engage with an MMO. This gives me the story in an arguably even more entertaining way, given your impeccable narration. It's great comfort food.
Nice, „Eyes Of Glory“ in the fight for Jupiter. 👍
I wonder if they'll add the Protostar to STO seeing as that ship class is now canon (for what canon is worth these days). As for Jupiter, well, that probably screwed up the gravitational balance of the system.
It was always canon.
Not for a while, there's issues with the rights of things originating in Prodigy.
Ah god, I'm enjoying this so much! I can't wait for the next installment
I love how the last few missions brought more complexity to Terrans. They are evil, but still human. She loved her son, but still kept emotional distance and appearances. Just as the death of Kuumaarke showed that they aren't as cold as they pretend to be.
Loved it.👍
I do find it kind of funny that a lot of the same people who compalin about DIS and PIC not following "Gene's vision" are so down on the end of an STO arc that seems totally in line with Gene's vision. I mean, it's not really that different from how TMP ended when you get down to it, just with a lot more characters involved. I think some people just like to complain, and will look for any excuse to do it, even if it makes them look like hypocrites.
Your right about that I loved the ending to the Tarren Gambit arc and the amazing amount of detail put in. Also really enjoyed how it humanized the Tarren's overall. There not just these Game of Thrones/Star Wars Empire style characters anymore.
I really have my distaste’s for them but honestly because their direction and writing in their origin source. The behind STO are miracle workers I can tolerate a lot of the disco characters presence even more thx to STO
The thing I most hate about the new _Trek_ series, but especially about _DISCO_ , is that everyone is a jerk to everyone else. I watched all of season 1 because I got it from the library, and found it both physically and emotionally difficult to watch. I waited and hoped for it to improve and return some hope to the story and characters, but it never did. And I have no wish to watch it now that I know there are zero stakes and no tension thanks to the characters basically having magical technology that can do anything at will, on a ship that can go anywhere, anywhen, also at will, and has as its captain, an individual who the plot won't let lose.
_STP_ continued the drab feel, and added to that the crime of not only killing off a number of the franchise's legacy characters, but assassinating the characters of those who survived: Make no mistake, Picard like Icheb and Data, is dead. A simulacrum walks around with his appearance and memories, but that is not the Jean-Luc Picard who dedicated his life to Starfleet's best ideals, but a strange JL Picard instead. I fully expect the other legacy characters to be killed off or sent away like Tilly before long. I also expect, because we've seen it across the different _Trek_ series, to see our favourite legacy ship designs beaten by the new, 'better' designs. I expect Lore and Moriarty to be bastardized and killed off just like Q was, or maybe they'll become embittered drinkers with trigger-happy fingers like Seven of Nine.
_Lesser Decks_ got hit somewhat worse, with Starfleet officers behaving like high schoolers, and disregarding harm to their colleagues, whether physical or emotional. As nice as the TNG/DS9 aesthetic was, I just couldn't get past seeing Mariner carve a path of destruction through her whole crew, destroying her ship, just to get a shot at her mother. It doesn't matter that it was a holodeck program, that should have sent a report to the ship's councilor or a Starfleet psychiatrist to have her re-evaluated as an officer. But of course, nothing was done. I can't help feeling Mariner would have been far happier as the captain of a merchant marine vessel, helping out wherever she saw fit. Essentially she and Rio could have swapped places, and both of them would have been happier.
_Prodigy_ is probably the best of the new series, given there was far less room to blatantly signal the Message than in the other series. The _Prodigy_ crew actually helped each other and cooperated, when Gwyn wasn't trying to kill everyone else. Despite having characters that looked more at home in a _Star Wars_ series, this felt a lot more like a _Star Trek_ story than the other ones. Of course, given the presence of so many jerks on those other series, it's not a high bar.
I haven't seen much of _Strange New Worlds_ , but I have heard a mixed bag of comments. Some things work well, and other things do not. It could work, but I think the vision the writers want to share would be better-served either outside of _Trek_ altogether, or in an era that would be all their own to play with. Sort of like _DISCO_ after the time jump, but only moreso, since there would be nothing familiar in a new time to reference. Then, free of the fetters of _Trek_ lore, the writers and producers could show whether or not they can also write something free of Message lectures.
You'll note that most of my complaints relate to character and character development, but story is also a huge factor. Most of the things I like have them well-written, while the things I dislike focus more on visual spectacle, and have less substance. The latter, sadly, has been true of most Western 'entertainment' recently. It doesn't give me much hope for the future of our culture, especially when so much effort is spent vilifying our legacy heroes and tearing down at their legacies.
@@BNuts yup went from one extreme to the other
I think the writing could have hinted a bit earlier that he wasn't totally uncaring, but I agree that the ending of the arc was very classic Trek and it worked fine for me.
oh Shit Rina out here kicking ass!
and yes .. .Everyone loves Kumarke
The music here was FANTASTIC.
very glad to see your playthrough back!
Beverly
"I shall send him to his room!"
this episode is the best. They are out doing themselves
Beverly looks like Gemma Teller
If you're the leader of the klingons and you go out by the enemy blowing up the station you are watching the battle on, does that technically count as dying in battle and mean you go to sto-vo-kor?
I'm going to say that's a yes you would go to Sto-vo-kor because you were still in battle and stayed at your station.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Indeed you stayed at your post in battle and died as direct result of enemy actions, even Klingons recognize that there's people who need to stand back and control the flow of battle.
You get sent to Grethor if you run from due to fear but the wind respects no fool and there's times even Klingons have to fall back if only the get to a better position to fight back and there's times when a Klingon has to stand back to better bring victory and glory to their house.
I'm hoping Admiral Hale is also going to play the 2 side missions that are a part of the 13th anniversary, since they give background on events in this arc, and it'd be amusing to hear Hale's running commentary about them.
He did play the Patrol side mission Atleast, after bc it’s a simulation of previous events. And if you mean the ground TFO, he already did that. The space TFO isn’t really too much different then the stuff he already covered so eh
2 AU? if the cloud dwarfs the Sol system, it have definitive the original 82 AU or even more
1 AU is the distance between the Earth and the Sun.
No not Koren our klingon waifu NOOOOO
NOT KOREN.
Im here my my Romulan Waifu Jarok, who i have head-cannoned as having married my romulan captain.
Not gonna spoil it, but i took the the to appreciate the art detail of this episode. Man was it beautiful
Great job with this video man, perfectly ending with that cliffhanger
I've missed this. As per expectation, Good work sir!
I'd like to know more about this "holographic defense system". How does it work, exactly? 🖖
So many memories in that opening. Great storytelling. TY.
One thing I do enjoy from what we see of Beverly Crusher is that while there is that slight hard edge of her she is a Terran after all. There is still that strong Maternal Instinct & if you expand this to what we see in the Bird Cage TFO. Someone that has the ability to recognise that a monster should be reigned in.
This is going to be the focus of the next part part3), looking at the Crushers as people, now we have bypassed the tech around them.
@@CertifiablyIngame Look forward to it mate.
"How do you intend to defeat a being of godlike power"
"We have established contact with one who knows him well." Read: We told his mother on him.
Actually, that does have a proven track record in Star Trek; it's just crazy enough to work.
Outstanding TNG season 3 cliffhanger
Thanks for being Rick!
Admiral Quinn: Quick! Before the meeting begins! Admiral Hale! We need a roll call!
Hale: (Cracks his knuckles and clears his throat.) Yes sir.
4:29 did someone say obisek?
I am legally obligated to say it.
There can be no future until my people are free.
WOOT!!!! " Kurland here".
Borg Eat Pluto.
Mirror V'ger, "Watch and learn."
Since 'Voyager' is 'V'Ger,' I guess that makes 'Conquerer' 'into C'Qer, which could be pronounced as 'Seeker.'
Given how this mission ends, I feel like the creators realized the had a huge naming opportunity. It struck me as odd that people in the Mirror Universe would call C'Quer, "The Other". The other what? What is their frame of reference? The Seeker is a much cooler sounding name, and had malevolent and benevolent implications. Sure Seeker can be seen as a synonym for Explorer, but there are also the implications with Hunter-Seeker, and Seeker Missiles, which gives it a nice dual meaning based on intent.
@@JundlandBansheethe only reason it's called the Other is because the only frame of reference they have is the prime universe data on Vger.
"12th power energy field detected" (I assume this means 10^12 watts, which is about the power output of a small star.. so yeah)
"They're here!"
You mean that purple object filling up half the sky? That would have been visible from here while it was still in a completely different stellar system?
I guess those are some damned fine sensors. 😁
3:30 Reincarnated? Cloned? Reinclonated!
7:30 When you need 7 minutes just to list all the easter Egg Characters.
8:00 You needed 8 minutes for introductions.
8.3 Lightminutes is the earth-sun distance. And the earth-sun distance is exactly how 1 AU is defined.
T'Pol, T'ket, T'wat.
Ha! T'wat....Nice one!
No spoilers, but personally i thought this ending of the current story arc was a little on the weak side, shame really
Can't have the arc's villain suffer any consequences. It's the J'Ula Effect.
@@kevinramsey417 Oh I do hope this isn't going to become a trend.
True, but what exactly can you do in universe? I mean Wesley still has starship destruction level of power. There is no prison you can feasibly hold him, and because of his stupid levels of personal power even killing him would be down right impossible,
@@Arrowthorne True, but J'ula has none of this but still got off scot free.
@@Arrowthorne This was not a well written arc. Kirk took down gods every other week. As poor as this mission was narratively, visually it was an absolute high water mark for STO. Just breathtaking.
I have completed this one last night. I have finally gotten the former U.S.S Voyager crewmembers : Vice Admiral Kathryn Janeway [First Officer and Mother], Rear Admiral Tuvok ( Former Tactical Officer and Chief of Security) and Captains Tom Paris [ Former Helsman and Flight Navigation] --Harry Kim [Commanding Officer U.S.S Rhode Island --Former Engineering Officer) 😊😊. My crew looks different. The best moment for me. I have been a cadet at Starfleet Academy --Studying Wave Interfence-- under Vice Admiral Kathryn Janeway. She has helped me defeating Borg, Vaadwaur and Undine ( Takedown and All That Glitters) ❤❤❤ . 3 Admirals and 2 Captains ❤❤
Captain Harry Kim? Are we sure he isn't from an alternate universe?
Technically, our Harry Kim got vented into space, if you remember.
@@nathanblue5548 Not completely correct. Captain Kim is more of a temporal clone. For a few hours there where two voyagers in the exact same point in this universe. Just out barley out of phase. Until one voyager blew up to save the other.
@@zomfragger you're right. It's been a while since I've seen that episode.
In the words of nostalgia critic
" IT JUST DISAPPEARED THE CAR JUST DISAPPEARED !!!!! "
Minor nitpick: Very early in the video you put The Other's size at 2AU (astronomical units, or approx twice the distance from the Sun-Earth). You said this 2AU size dwarfs the Sol system, but the distance from the edge of the Heliopause to Sol is about 90AU. While absolutely massive, The Other only dwarfs the entirety of the inner planets not our whole solar system. I love the Trek vids. Keep up the good work.
I always thought it was 1AU
You were expecting consistency?
@@markfergerson2145 I know right, the cloud's size isn't even consistent in TMP.
Nunna, maintaining a consistent scale requires a concept of the dimensions involved, which your average joe doesn't have, the sizes of everything are just too big for that.
ohhh staticool i see a very cool CAITIAN and blue too oh id love to have this game if you could be one of this color as the starting character big time i love CAITIAN's they are too cool for words,
Need some TOS representation in there. Time traveling Scotty / Sulu / Checkov?
Man, you rock. Patreon?
Jupiter's role in history would mean we were already boned if it disappeared from history
I know they left it open for more, but this does feel like it could be a finale for the game, not just the storyline...
So I am guessing the Romulan Star Empire didn't send anyone to at least say "hi" at the delegation?
I know their presence is much diminished, but they are still on the maps .
On the maps, yes. Important enough to matter? Not really. The Star Empire is a miniscule, tarnished shadow of what it once was. They have almost no military power, and what little they do have is currently pointed inwards. And with the Tal Shiar effectively gone and Sela still missing, there's no one who could feasibly be called a leader among the Star Empire's remnants. Why should Starfleet, or anyone else give them a seat at such an important conference?
Short suggestion if I may: Could you make a cultural index for the Iconians and Heralds? The Founders, uhm I mean the community would be most pleased.
Sounds like a good idea however, videos were already made about both the Temporal War as well as the Iconian War for STO.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Sure, although the index doesn't really depend on other videos. You're right, but I still have some hope. ^^ Maybe he surprises us with another vid on this topic, maybe not.
4:33 Standing behind Obisek to the left, is that a Pakled in a Starfleet uniform?
Yes that is a Pakled in a Starfleet uniform.
This was interesting and all that but they never did address the race of machines that supposedly built the vger ship or where they are. I'd like to see that.
Well.... there's our problem. Defend.... what Jupiter?
I am trying to finish this mission, but all that is happening is those plasma balls are being shot at me. Been shooting them down for an hour.
Jupiter?
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Friends of DeSoto rejoice!
Hmm. I'm trying to remember, have the two Leetas ever met?
Not that we know of. Prime Leeta has made some "comments" about Mirror Leeta though.
starring,.... *EVERYONE!*
Quick question: how is the IKS Lukara here? Wasn't it destroyed during the Klingon Civil War arc?
I thought that too... maybe She's the Lukara 2?
@Berthulf personally, I'm sensing a retcon here
No it's a rebuild.
They built a new one.
Pity Captain Neth Parr and the C.S.S. Steadfast couldn't make it to represent the Tzenkethi.
7:12 I see what you did there
Kurland's there???
no, Kurland's here...
@@berthulf Well, from a local perspective "there" is "here", though yes, Kurland is at every "here".
Where's Q when you need him?!?!
could i please get the build i've got a terran lexington so the same layout and i'd öike to recreate it
Your ship needs to mention a retrofit or upgrade for storytelling, your ship suffers horrendous damage all the time
I thought that ship blew up? 17:27
.....It digitized Jupiter. .............Well.......crap.......hold up we have weapons that can blow up a solar system with one torpedo. .....(evil grin)
Quick! Get some Nova bombs from the Andromeda series!
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Star trek has tri-lithium torpedoes that shut down the fusion of a star causing it to explode taking an entire system with it.
10:33
Scranton Reality Anchor/Omega Bomb, anyone?
How many times has Earth gotten attacked in the last decade?
So she's planing to hit him with borg assimilation nanites
Couldn't the other have killed off J'Ula instead?
Still wondering who or what Fujiwhara is.
According to Wikipedia Fujiwhara is:
When two hurricanes spinning in the same direction pass close enough to each other, they begin an intense dance around their common center. If one hurricane is a lot stronger than the other, the smaller one will orbit it and eventually come crashing into its vortex to be absorbed.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon Thank you. I didn't think to Google it.
I think I suspect how it's going to apply in part 2.
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Wasn't the Lukara destroyed?
They built a new one IIRC.
oh... fuck...
Yeah that ending is something else. I love how there showing how dire the situation is.
Oh, it gets worse before it gets better, don't you worry.
That doesn't sound like gates McFadden
It sounds just like Gates McFadden.
It sounds like Gates McFadden after a lifetime of paranoia and power plays. Just imagine Dr. Crusher as a Romulan.
Fall back? Yeah fall back to Klingon territory defending earth is a waste of time. Without Jupiter solar system is fucked anyway. That just threw all kinds of orbits into chaos.
Oh thank God, Harry Kim didn't get screwed out of being a Captain, again.
Also, did they really name that ship/entity "The Other"? That's giving me major Black Mirror vibes and it feels political. I pray I'm wrong and its just lazy writing, but still, weird.
To be fair, Illea was the one to call it "The Other" first whichbis in reference to it being another V'Ger. The Khitomer Alliance just called it "The Other" afterwards for ease of identification, after all they didn't know it was named C'Qer (Conquerer).
@@HoodedLord Yeah, people's frame of reference until recently has been just the info they had on V'ger.
where IS MARTOK!!!!!
top of the stairs 😜
@@berthulf ROFL i blind as hell
Well shit...
Terrans arnt human. Just putting that out there.