My dad bought a series 3 D-17 new. It was a joy to run. We had a 4 bottom plow and used it on the upland clay soils near Emporia. Sometimes the traction boost would pick the front end off of the ground. It was worked hard and stood that very well. I would recommend a D-15 or D-17 any time for ease of handling, comfort, live power and hydraulics unless clutch disengaged, power steering, easy adjustment on tread width and hi-low hand clutch you could slip forever and not hurt. Short coming today is finding AC equipment to attach to the AC system. With 3 point adapter that's not a problem. My experience with the AC lift was that it worked great. I believe the series 4 had more remote hydraulics available that previous series.
I've baled thousands of square bales with a "d-17"! when the hay got thick,simply kick the "Power Director" in neutral, and could take on any size windrow! the same for plowing with an "offset disc".just take off driving and set the "traction Booster" to the depth/load I wanted ,get the job done. AC was ahead of the times,in many areas.
The D-17 is a GREAT tractor but, as I've said many times, I'm biased because I came up on Persian Orange machines, including the 1963 D-17 that I own today. Even though we had all A-C tractors (except for 1 Farmall), gandpa always used to say that those orange tractors were "the stubbornest damn machines I ever met". A 10 or 12 year old me once told him that they learned to be that way from him! He laughed and said that I was probably right. I knew that they were available with propane engines but, I've never personally seen one. Propane wasn't used for much of anything other than stoves and furnaces in my area.
My grandpa bought a D17 about 20 years ago. He passed away and now I have it. There’s not much we can’t do on our 20 acres with it. I think it’s a great machine
@@timgilchrist3065 can't argue that, if you want to see a sweet D17 look up the Relianceworksllc.com there is a custom built one, it's beautiful in the picture section
You could order them new with separate hydraulics but it seemed AC buyers were too cheap. Allis offered the same type of pump that the Series IV had. I have a 1959 brochure showing that pump with separate hydraulic valves was an option.
The D19 gas engine was a trouble free engine, I farmed for years with a D19 gas and still own it and now it has a 2250 CaseIH loader. The hydraulics were my only complaint though they did offer a front pump mounted behind the grill which I wish I had. When I worked at the Allis dealer 25 years ago, the older mechanics would tell me stories of field demos where nothing could touch a D19 plowing. They also said the diesel D17 and diesel D19 were the problem engines but it depended on the owner. One had great luck and the nesx didn't. The ones who did were the type that listened to the dealer, after using the tractor hard, let it sit and idle while you go do chores, then shut it off. The next guy was the type to pull out of the field and immediately shut it off while still hot. One customer they had bought 2 D17 diesels and had nothing but problems. Cracked heads, sunken sleeves, things like that. He was a dairy farmer like so many in my area back in that day. He traded them both for I think 180's and another farmer bought both diesel D17's for his dairy farm. He was much more careful and treated them right and he never had the troubles that the earlier farmer had using the exact same tractors. Now Allis did come with better heads in about 1963 or so for those engines which fixed some problems but they were not a perfect engine and had to be cared for properly still. I passed up two diesel D17s at an auction once. Both ran nice and were the Series I models and original paint. My Dad knew the farmer since the early 1960's and he ran those two diesels since back then on his dairy farm until sometime in the early 2000's when he retired. He never had much trouble with them. Wish I had bought at least one of them as one sold for $2000 and the other for $1800 and they ran beautiful but I did buy a plow and cultivator, both Allis. Same for the old IH's where even the gas models would crack a head and of course the diesels too. The old IH farmers who knew how to take care of their tractors would throw a horse blanket over the engine after shutting it down so it cooled slowly. These are things the old mechanics told me 25 years ago. They are mostly all gone now.
My Grandfather/Father had a series 1 D17 (Diesel) and a D19 (gas). The D17 was starting to have engine issues, which were blamed on the use of ether in the winter time. Then instead of putting money into an old tractor that was becoming too small for farming operations the D17 was traded in for a 180. I now have both the 180 and the D19.
D19 gas and LP engines were not problematic at all. It was the diesel that sort of had the issues It was the very first farm tractor (of any brand) to come out of the factory with a turbo on it
I don't a couple AC just to play with and collect. I have a restored 1948 G and a 1951 B. Allis is pretty rare in my part of Appalachia ( NE Georgia) that makes them sorta neat to have.
What are some other model tractors equivalent to the D17 in power? I have a John deere 1010ru, but wouldn't mind finding something more like a D17 that was considered row crop in the day.
Great information. They were not very popular in my area. Ford's, MF, International, and John Deer were the most popular. I've only seen a few AC. They appear to be good tractors tho. Because they were not as popular in my area if one could be found it probably would not be to expensive.
They were very popular in my area. Lots of D17s and D14s and D15s around still along with older and newer models. We had good dealers in the area. Lots of Gleaners too. When I first got interested in Dad's farm operation in the late 70's and into the 80's we would go to lots of auctions and you could count on an Allis being in nearly every auction and at times several Allis', especially the WD and WC series and lots of 190s too.
@@SilverGleaner That's really nice. I wish it was more of them around me because they seem like really good tractors. I only have seen one Gleaner combine. A small farm I took fuel too was still running one; a gasser with a 292 Chevy engine if I remember correctly.
@@kylebass4635 sounds like an F or F2 Gleaner. The dealer I buy parts from sold a ton of F2 combines. They dug out their old records one day and told me that in 1978 they sold 58 F2 combines. That's a lot of combines. Gleaner was number 1 in sales in the United States throughout the 70's and a big part of the 60"s.
@@SilverGleaner Wow that's a lot of combines in one year!!!!! I can't remember the model but I do remember he kept it in great condition. I would fill up his 280 diesel tank and then the gas tank on the Gleaner. Had a big white gas tank mounted on the back of it.
@@kylebass4635 The F series Gleaners were everywhere in my area when I was growing up. My one Uncle had owned an F and two F2s over the years, another still has an F2 my cousin had two F2s, now has an R65 and another cousin had an F until he quit crop farming. It probably was the most popular combine of all combines in my neck of the woods by far at the time..... maybe earlier the E or A series had them beat. But yep, I never liked where the gas tank was on them because Dad, nor I later had a pump to fill them so we carried 5 gallon cans up the ladder on our E Gleaners. If we had a pump it would be no problem. I finally got a tank with a pump for my L2 and now I have an R52. Someone added a second tank to my L2 and that was actually an option that custom harvesters would order for their machines from the factory. So an L series could hold just about 190 gallons!
Allis tractors all well known for being engineered for just enough to get by design. Nothing on them is overbuilt. That said, the D17 was a pretty good tractor. The neighbor next door was an AC farmer and his 2 D17's were trouble free. Could not say the same for his 2 190's and 2 D21's.
My dad bought a series 3 D-17 new. It was a joy to run. We had a 4 bottom plow and used it on the upland clay soils near Emporia. Sometimes the traction boost would pick the front end off of the ground. It was worked hard and stood that very well. I would recommend a D-15 or D-17 any time for ease of handling, comfort, live power and hydraulics unless clutch disengaged, power steering, easy adjustment on tread width and hi-low hand clutch you could slip forever and not hurt. Short coming today is finding AC equipment to attach to the AC system. With 3 point adapter that's not a problem. My experience with the AC lift was that it worked great. I believe the series 4 had more remote hydraulics available that previous series.
Previous series had it available as an option but AC buyers didn't spend the nickels to get it.
My boys and I bought a D 17 series 4 with a 500 loader on it at a auction this summer for $2000. Needs some minor fixes , but well worth it.
I had a 1959 D14 and that was the first tractor I owned one great tractor 👍
I've had ACs. I would put them up against anything else in it's class. Asuming the previous owner didn't beat it to death .
Many a man has tried few have succeed
I've baled thousands of square bales with a "d-17"! when the hay got thick,simply kick the "Power Director" in neutral, and could take on any size windrow! the same for plowing with an "offset disc".just take off driving and set the "traction Booster" to the depth/load I wanted ,get the job done. AC was ahead of the times,in many areas.
The D-17 is a GREAT tractor but, as I've said many times, I'm biased because I came up on Persian Orange machines, including the 1963 D-17 that I own today. Even though we had all A-C tractors (except for 1 Farmall), gandpa always used to say that those orange tractors were "the stubbornest damn machines I ever met". A 10 or 12 year old me once told him that they learned to be that way from him! He laughed and said that I was probably right.
I knew that they were available with propane engines but, I've never personally seen one. Propane wasn't used for much of anything other than stoves and furnaces in my area.
My grandpa bought a D17 about 20 years ago. He passed away and now I have it. There’s not much we can’t do on our 20 acres with it. I think it’s a great machine
I always felt that the D17 was the biggest little tractor ever built. Just wished they had made the hydraulic arms and remote separate.
Easily changed
Yeah, but it would have been nice if they had stepped up to the plate on it before they got to Serie IV.
@@timgilchrist3065 can't argue that, if you want to see a sweet D17 look up the Relianceworksllc.com there is a custom built one, it's beautiful in the picture section
You could order them new with separate hydraulics but it seemed AC buyers were too cheap. Allis offered the same type of pump that the Series IV had. I have a 1959 brochure showing that pump with separate hydraulic valves was an option.
The D19 gas engine was a trouble free engine, I farmed for years with a D19 gas and still own it and now it has a 2250 CaseIH loader. The hydraulics were my only complaint though they did offer a front pump mounted behind the grill which I wish I had.
When I worked at the Allis dealer 25 years ago, the older mechanics would tell me stories of field demos where nothing could touch a D19 plowing. They also said the diesel D17 and diesel D19 were the problem engines but it depended on the owner. One had great luck and the nesx didn't. The ones who did were the type that listened to the dealer, after using the tractor hard, let it sit and idle while you go do chores, then shut it off. The next guy was the type to pull out of the field and immediately shut it off while still hot.
One customer they had bought 2 D17 diesels and had nothing but problems. Cracked heads, sunken sleeves, things like that. He was a dairy farmer like so many in my area back in that day. He traded them both for I think 180's and another farmer bought both diesel D17's for his dairy farm. He was much more careful and treated them right and he never had the troubles that the earlier farmer had using the exact same tractors. Now Allis did come with better heads in about 1963 or so for those engines which fixed some problems but they were not a perfect engine and had to be cared for properly still.
I passed up two diesel D17s at an auction once. Both ran nice and were the Series I models and original paint. My Dad knew the farmer since the early 1960's and he ran those two diesels since back then on his dairy farm until sometime in the early 2000's when he retired. He never had much trouble with them. Wish I had bought at least one of them as one sold for $2000 and the other for $1800 and they ran beautiful but I did buy a plow and cultivator, both Allis.
Same for the old IH's where even the gas models would crack a head and of course the diesels too. The old IH farmers who knew how to take care of their tractors would throw a horse blanket over the engine after shutting it down so it cooled slowly. These are things the old mechanics told me 25 years ago. They are mostly all gone now.
My Grandfather/Father had a series 1 D17 (Diesel) and a D19 (gas). The D17 was starting to have engine issues, which were blamed on the use of ether in the winter time. Then instead of putting money into an old tractor that was becoming too small for farming operations the D17 was traded in for a 180. I now have both the 180 and the D19.
D19 gas and LP engines were not problematic at all. It was the diesel that sort of had the issues
It was the very first farm tractor (of any brand) to come out of the factory with a turbo on it
Just subscribed. Truly appreciate getting information from a no B.S. salesman. 👍
I don't a couple AC just to play with and collect. I have a restored 1948 G and a 1951 B. Allis is pretty rare in my part of Appalachia ( NE Georgia) that makes them sorta neat to have.
Same here, they are hard to find in North East Pa, but i still love em :)
Yes Allis Chalmers tractor last long time too and ones in my area not propane fuel lots gas also desiel fuel too !
What are some other model tractors equivalent to the D17 in power? I have a John deere 1010ru, but wouldn't mind finding something more like a D17 that was considered row crop in the day.
A case 731 is pretty similar in horsepower.
Another great video thank you.
Remember--taking a snap coupler and converting to 3pt and put on a plow....you will lose most of the draft control feature.
What's a complete d17 with a stuck gas engine worth? More than scrap?
A D17 Series 4 is always worth the money.
All series are good
Good watch. I always learn something here!
Thanks for the shout out in your new video
PS when is that auction or was that last this weekend
Roughly what is the weight of a d17 with fluid filled 16.9-28 back tires?
5500 pounds.
Darn right!!! ANY ALLIS-CHALMERS is worth the money!!!! ALL the rest ARE GREAT, but A-C IS fantastically greater!!!
Awesome tractors.....❤
Have you ever had a John Deere 60
Great information. They were not very popular in my area. Ford's, MF, International, and John Deer were the most popular. I've only seen a few AC. They appear to be good tractors tho. Because they were not as popular in my area if one could be found it probably would not be to expensive.
They were very popular in my area. Lots of D17s and D14s and D15s around still along with older and newer models. We had good dealers in the area. Lots of Gleaners too. When I first got interested in Dad's farm operation in the late 70's and into the 80's we would go to lots of auctions and you could count on an Allis being in nearly every auction and at times several Allis', especially the WD and WC series and lots of 190s too.
@@SilverGleaner That's really nice. I wish it was more of them around me because they seem like really good tractors. I only have seen one Gleaner combine. A small farm I took fuel too was still running one; a gasser with a 292 Chevy engine if I remember correctly.
@@kylebass4635 sounds like an F or F2 Gleaner. The dealer I buy parts from sold a ton of F2 combines. They dug out their old records one day and told me that in 1978 they sold 58 F2 combines. That's a lot of combines. Gleaner was number 1 in sales in the United States throughout the 70's and a big part of the 60"s.
@@SilverGleaner Wow that's a lot of combines in one year!!!!! I can't remember the model but I do remember he kept it in great condition. I would fill up his 280 diesel tank and then the gas tank on the Gleaner. Had a big white gas tank mounted on the back of it.
@@kylebass4635 The F series Gleaners were everywhere in my area when I was growing up. My one Uncle had owned an F and two F2s over the years, another still has an F2 my cousin had two F2s, now has an R65 and another cousin had an F until he quit crop farming. It probably was the most popular combine of all combines in my neck of the woods by far at the time..... maybe earlier the E or A series had them beat. But yep, I never liked where the gas tank was on them because Dad, nor I later had a pump to fill them so we carried 5 gallon cans up the ladder on our E Gleaners. If we had a pump it would be no problem. I finally got a tank with a pump for my L2 and now I have an R52. Someone added a second tank to my L2 and that was actually an option that custom harvesters would order for their machines from the factory. So an L series could hold just about 190 gallons!
Snap Coupler.
Allis tractors all well known for being engineered for just enough to get by design. Nothing on them is overbuilt. That said, the D17 was a pretty good tractor. The neighbor next door was an AC farmer and his 2 D17's were trouble free. Could not say the same for his 2 190's and 2 D21's.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Allis Chalmers were grossly overbuilt and engineered
@@RJ1999x shut them haters up 😁
@@hunterjacobs2178 it's what I do, my friend!😃
@@RJ1999x What have you been up to lately
@@hunterjacobs2178 trying to finish planting, and spraying
Snap Coupler.