Most Dolphins' fans live north in Broward and Palm Beach counties. The stadium location area is perfect because of this. Marlins retractable stadium should have been built nearby for the same reason. Historically, Dolphins stadium is located in an area nicknamed the 'Bahas' or spelled 'Bajas' in prior unincorporated Carol City, with a Miami address, even though Miami proper is over 8 miles to the south. Currently, it lies within incorporated city of Miami Gardens because before stadium was built, the area was barren cattle farmland with dunes like Baja California, Mexico, and Sahara desert with no lights at night and dirt bike riding in the daytime. Rapper Rick Ross is from this area. Considered one of the toughest areas in greater Miami Dade County.
I saw the "redux" in October of 2021 and I thought they nailed it, really nice job. The first time I went to a game there was 1990 and man, that Sun was something else!
@smokey_gator_239 - Nice point, but I'd like to think of Lambeau as a unique renovation, with its rich history. Hard Rock is more modern, much more recent. I compare it to the other more modern NFL stadiums, like Bank of America stadium and Jacksonville's stadium... 🤔
I know the Marlins began in 1993 but I always felt the original JRS was made with Football and futbol in mind. I just recall being taken aback by the sideline space. @@stevengalloway8052
@@davidlafleche1142in realty no offense to him but he judges stadiums just because of their age and yet most baseball staidums especially new ones do have old school looking exteriors.
@@spacemansports4129 If it's still functional, I don't care if it's old. Back in the 70s there was a good economy car called the Hornet. It always sold well, but critics said "the styling was dated". I would have bought one if I could have. I don't care if it's dated, as long as it works.
The hilarious irony is that no matter how bad this stadium might be/have been, there are people like Peter King who would still call for the Super Bowl to be played here every year just because they want to spend that one January/February week in Miami.
I call it by its original name, Joe Robbie Stadium. Joe Robbie and Danny Thomas were the owners of the Miami Dolphins and I believe by the time that this stadium was built, Joe Robbie was the principal owner, so he paid for it without any public financing and put his name on it. To me, the baseball setup is the opposite of what we used to have in Detroit at Tiger Stadium, however this place has about 22000 more seats than Tiger Stadium had, didn't originally have any grandstand roof and little overhang between its four decks. In Detroit, we had the stacked decks and a field overhang on the right field side by the second deck as well as a small rooftop deck around the southern half of Tiger Stadium. Joe Robbie Stadium had to retract their left field side lower deck and the second through fourth decks almost, but not quite overhung the field, but were about flush with the raised left field wall known as the Teal Monster with its embedded scoreboard. When they played a Super Bowl here, it was during a thunderstorm (at least during the half time show it was raining quite heavily), and Prince was playing his electric guitar and singing. It is something that he wasn't electrocuted during this show, hence the need for a retractable roof in these Florida stadia and ballparks.
Ironically, the designers of the Silver dome asked the Tigers if they wanted to play there. The Tigers said, "No", so they kept it strictly as a football stadium.
It was built as a multi purpose stadium prior to the trend of baseball and football only ballparks there is no issue here. By the time the Marlins came in 1993, that ship had sailed by then and was considered obsolete but between this, it was before the trend.
The only stadiums he likes are LoanDepot Park and Kaseya Center yet Hard Rock aka Joe Robbie is the most packed and top rated stadium down here in south Florida and the one of the Tops in the NFL
Really great breakdown man. I like how other Florida sports teams are looking into copying the canopy design if Hard Rock Stadium, I think its extremely functional in that state
Here’s something you may not be aware of: during construction, the builders discovered this was an Indian burial ground. They had to come to an agreement with the local tribes to utilize the land for a stadium. The trade off was to leave strips of grass on the western side, and a few other places, in order to honor the history.
Not sure if agree on this stadium being a disaster..it was product of its time when built, privately financed, it allow south Florida with a venue to successfully get an MLB team (I do not think they anticipated the marlins to play there as long as they did) and it got a major renovation that gave it new life. Not to mention it has hosted almost every major sport event we have. I call that a success my friend.
You missed one of the biggest parts of the renovation. They entirely reconstructed both lower level sideline grandstands moving them much closer to the field.
This stadium was flawed from Day 1. The stadium is a big bowl with no air circulation; there's no breeze to cool the fans. Consequently, you feel like you're sitting in soup, it's so miserable. Prior to canopy installation, the acoustics were terrible as well. Fans could be going nuts, screaming at the top of their lungs, but it wouldn't result in any kind of home field advantage like in Kansas City or Minnesota because the sound wasn't kept in the stadium. Once they put the canopy on it kept the sound in the stadium, but it also kept the heat in. Overall, the stadium was bad from the beginning and the recent improvements only made it slightly better. They should put this place out of its misery and start over.
Lumen Field, home of the Seattle Seahawks, is a good example of an outdoor stadium that is very loud. It has an overhang roof that protects most fans from rainy weather while the playing field is open to the elements. The seating decks and partial roof trap and amplify exceptional amounts of noise and reflect it back onto the field. That is why the Seahawks call their crowd the "12th Man," a term that originated in the Kingdome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_Field#Home_field_advantage
You keep mentioning that Raymond James Stadium is getting a roof. No it's not, nobody is talking about it, and nobody ever has, and it's not gonna happen.
Yep, most Dolphins' fans live north in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Stadium ID located in area nicknamed the 'Bahas' in unincorporated Carol City because before stadium was built, the area was barren with dunes like Baha California, Mexico and Sahara desert with no lights at night and dirt bike riding in the daytime.
Joe Robbie was a brilliant owner. Never used any tax monies to built it. When it open in 1986, it was the "gem" of the NFL. You may dislike the fact it was a multi purpose stadium, but that was the plans in the 80's. The renovations were just right and the NFL still has a "hard-on" to host Super Bowls in Miami. Only L.A. is the most favored current city. A week in Miami is better than a week in any other city.
I loved the dimensions for the Marlins you had to configure your outfield for speed (Juan Pierre) and the Teal Monster if you hit one out at Joe Robbie you earned it
But the for the Marlins won two world series 2 at that stadium so wasn't too bad for the Marlins keep up the great content and have a great week the depressed Ginger
The fact that the Marlins won the World Series TWICE playing in an outdoor stadium in conditions I say are worse than in Texas is why I will forever call BS on the claims the Rangers needed to leave The Ballpark for the roofed country club they now have.
You should do a video on Inter Miami needing a roof. I have been a season ticket holder from the beginning (3 years pre- Messi). We get so many weather / lightning delays. You didn’t care as much when you spent $25 on a ticket but when you spend $200 plus … problem.
It seems like it'd be relatively easy to simply put one of those glass roofs on top of the open area, similar to SoFi Stadium, Allegiant Stadium, and the new Titans place in Nashville. It's all the rage, after all, and they could get rid of those teal spikes. The thing that sticks out like a sore thumb to me is the parking lot. Holy moly, that thing is enormous, and absolutely disgusting. I don't know if there's any place downtown for them to go, or closer to Marlins Park, but places like this, and the old Qualcomm stadium, and Gillette and Dallas and Arizona....such a waste. It's even worse because it's Miami. Who wants their car to sit out in the sun for 4 hours? Build some parking structures, and with all of the leftover land, do an entertainment complex, some condos, offices, etc.
Bad lighting for night games and bad weather for Marlins games. A new stadium for the Dolphins if it happened should be indoors with grass. Marlins need to wear the teal and black again and be the Florida Marlins.
3:40 skydome was built in 80s and was multipurpose. And can't compare a stadium built in the 30s to attract the Olympics and was later used for football and baseball. To a more modern stadium
This you-tube is just a bunch of click bait. Just an opinion piece from somebody whose job is to give opinions. The stadium is not ''perfect" similar to the situation at most other stadiums, but disaster is an overreach (my opinion!). I have attended many foorball, soccer, and baseball games there and the idea of it being a disaster is far from my experience. Too much capacity is always an issue in arenas, but unless you put cardboard dummies in the seats, you are just seeing the reality of the situation. Who is looking at empty seats during a game anyway. You are there to watch the game, not the seats.
Truth of the matter is that Miami-Dade County should have sent that money to build a new stadium for the Dolphins & Hurricanes except relinquishing it to "Crooked" Loria and Marlins Park. Nonetheless, the renovations are S-tier IMHO. Far better appealing field nowadays than Joe Robbie
this guy talks like he knows what hes talking about and is always wrong and makes so many mistakes with the smallest but easiest details and gets them wrong lol It is so laughable it is the only reason i still watch his videos lol
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The stadium broke ground in 1985 which means the designs were finalized around 1982-1983 when multi-purpose stadiums were still in “fashion”.
Most Dolphins' fans live north in Broward and Palm Beach counties. The stadium location area is perfect because of this. Marlins retractable stadium should have been built nearby for the same reason. Historically, Dolphins stadium is located in an area nicknamed the 'Bahas' or spelled 'Bajas' in prior unincorporated Carol City, with a Miami address, even though Miami proper is over 8 miles to the south. Currently, it lies within incorporated city of Miami Gardens because before stadium was built, the area was barren cattle farmland with dunes like Baja California, Mexico, and Sahara desert with no lights at night and dirt bike riding in the daytime. Rapper Rick Ross is from this area. Considered one of the toughest areas in greater Miami Dade County.
I like the current iteration. It’s like a larger soccer only stadium. Same look and design.
Speaking of the dolphins yesterday they won 70-20 over the broncos
Best renovation of the pro football stadiums, bar none... 😏
yeah, it looks nice with the roof on top
Lambeau Field, not even close
I saw the "redux" in October of 2021 and I thought they nailed it, really nice job. The first time I went to a game there was 1990 and man, that Sun was something else!
@smokey_gator_239 - Nice point, but I'd like to think of Lambeau as a unique renovation, with its rich history. Hard Rock is more modern, much more recent. I compare it to the other more modern NFL stadiums, like Bank of America stadium and Jacksonville's stadium... 🤔
I know the Marlins began in 1993 but I always felt the original JRS was made with Football and futbol in mind. I just recall being taken aback by the sideline space. @@stevengalloway8052
We need for DG to build a stadium to show us what one is supposed to look like, complete with all the renderings.
This guy is always griping about stadiums. He thinks the Carolina Panthers stadium is "boring". Well, boo hoo.
@@davidlafleche1142in realty no offense to him but he judges stadiums just because of their age and yet most baseball staidums especially new ones do have old school looking exteriors.
@@spacemansports4129 If it's still functional, I don't care if it's old. Back in the 70s there was a good economy car called the Hornet. It always sold well, but critics said "the styling was dated". I would have bought one if I could have. I don't care if it's dated, as long as it works.
The hilarious irony is that no matter how bad this stadium might be/have been, there are people like Peter King who would still call for the Super Bowl to be played here every year just because they want to spend that one January/February week in Miami.
Why do you say this stadium was a mistake to exist? It’s one of the most iconic landmarks in South Florida.
Lol it’s definitely not a landmark. The orange bowl was
I call it by its original name, Joe Robbie Stadium. Joe Robbie and Danny Thomas were the owners of the Miami Dolphins and I believe by the time that this stadium was built, Joe Robbie was the principal owner, so he paid for it without any public financing and put his name on it. To me, the baseball setup is the opposite of what we used to have in Detroit at Tiger Stadium, however this place has about 22000 more seats than Tiger Stadium had, didn't originally have any grandstand roof and little overhang between its four decks. In Detroit, we had the stacked decks and a field overhang on the right field side by the second deck as well as a small rooftop deck around the southern half of Tiger Stadium. Joe Robbie Stadium had to retract their left field side lower deck and the second through fourth decks almost, but not quite overhung the field, but were about flush with the raised left field wall known as the Teal Monster with its embedded scoreboard. When they played a Super Bowl here, it was during a thunderstorm (at least during the half time show it was raining quite heavily), and Prince was playing his electric guitar and singing. It is something that he wasn't electrocuted during this show, hence the need for a retractable roof in these Florida stadia and ballparks.
Robbie also screwed over Thomas for full ownership of the team. And Building that stadium left the entire Robbie family completely bankrupt
Ironically, the designers of the Silver dome asked the Tigers if they wanted to play there. The Tigers said, "No", so they kept it strictly as a football stadium.
@@CynicalCharlatan88Today you got to be a Super rich Billionaire to build a Stadium like Stan Kroenke
@zachlafleur6651 Who cares the original name & I call it Hard Rock Stadium
It was built as a multi purpose stadium prior to the trend of baseball and football only ballparks there is no issue here. By the time the Marlins came in 1993, that ship had sailed by then and was considered obsolete but between this, it was before the trend.
Does this guy like any NFL stadiums sheesh😂😂😂
This guy hates Miami
He does and he has poor takes on our venues as well
The only stadiums he likes are LoanDepot Park and Kaseya Center yet Hard Rock aka Joe Robbie is the most packed and top rated stadium down here in south Florida and the one of the Tops in the NFL
Really great breakdown man. I like how other Florida sports teams are looking into copying the canopy design if Hard Rock Stadium, I think its extremely functional in that state
The thing I don’t like about Hard Rock and Raymond James is the fact they don’t have enough paved parking spots so when it rains it is a muddy mess.
Here’s something you may not be aware of: during construction, the builders discovered this was an Indian burial ground. They had to come to an agreement with the local tribes to utilize the land for a stadium. The trade off was to leave strips of grass on the western side, and a few other places, in order to honor the history.
I did not know that. That’s good to know, thanks.
9:42 you are aware the Rockies came in at the same time as the Marlins and they played at an NFL stadium too
Not sure if agree on this stadium being a disaster..it was product of its time when built, privately financed, it allow south Florida with a venue to successfully get an MLB team (I do not think they anticipated the marlins to play there as long as they did) and it got a major renovation that gave it new life. Not to mention it has hosted almost every major sport event we have. I call that a success my friend.
You missed one of the biggest parts of the renovation. They entirely reconstructed both lower level sideline grandstands moving them much closer to the field.
I went there back when it was called Landshark Stadium to watch Iowa Georgia Tech Orange Bowl coldest Orange Bowl ever
Upper deck - prior to renovation - looks a lot like the former home of Detroit Lions , the magnificent Pontiac Silverdome.
I'm curious, not trying to be negative or anything. Has this guy even been to any of these stadiums?
The seats were orange then teal. Because, ya know, that's the Dolphins' colors.
8:39 “i don’t like the exterior” while showing a majestic photo 😂
My concern in 2028 (when the stadium around 41 years old), would there be talks of a new stadium?
i did always love that old orange seating color watching marlins games on tv back in the day. wish they'd kept it.
This stadium was flawed from Day 1. The stadium is a big bowl with no air circulation; there's no breeze to cool the fans. Consequently, you feel like you're sitting in soup, it's so miserable. Prior to canopy installation, the acoustics were terrible as well. Fans could be going nuts, screaming at the top of their lungs, but it wouldn't result in any kind of home field advantage like in Kansas City or Minnesota because the sound wasn't kept in the stadium. Once they put the canopy on it kept the sound in the stadium, but it also kept the heat in. Overall, the stadium was bad from the beginning and the recent improvements only made it slightly better. They should put this place out of its misery and start over.
Never heard that from the average fan and breeze does come in 🤧
Lumen Field, home of the Seattle Seahawks, is a good example of an outdoor stadium that is very loud. It has an overhang roof that protects most fans from rainy weather while the playing field is open to the elements. The seating decks and partial roof trap and amplify exceptional amounts of noise and reflect it back onto the field. That is why the Seahawks call their crowd the "12th Man," a term that originated in the Kingdome. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_Field#Home_field_advantage
You keep mentioning that Raymond James Stadium is getting a roof. No it's not, nobody is talking about it, and nobody ever has, and it's not gonna happen.
What I like about this stadium is that it's not located in miami itself. So as a dolphins fan who doesn't live in miami can avoid the crazy traffic.
Yep, most Dolphins' fans live north in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Stadium ID located in area nicknamed the 'Bahas' in unincorporated Carol City because before stadium was built, the area was barren with dunes like Baha California, Mexico and Sahara desert with no lights at night and dirt bike riding in the daytime.
Joe Robbie was a brilliant owner. Never used any tax monies to built it. When it open in 1986, it was the "gem" of the NFL. You may dislike the fact it was a multi purpose stadium, but that was the plans in the 80's. The renovations were just right and the NFL still has a "hard-on" to host Super Bowls in Miami. Only L.A. is the most favored current city. A week in Miami is better than a week in any other city.
I loved the dimensions for the Marlins you had to configure your outfield for speed (Juan Pierre) and the Teal Monster if you hit one out at Joe Robbie you earned it
Old Color is Coral
The seat colors were teal and orange and now just teal because they're the Dolphins colors
My dad took me to many events at the orange bowl,and sunlife stadium 🏟!!! I like both of the especially being outside
I like the way it looks today. Well, that's just me.😊
But the for the Marlins won two world series 2 at that stadium so wasn't too bad for the Marlins keep up the great content and have a great week the depressed Ginger
The fact that the Marlins won the World Series TWICE playing in an outdoor stadium in conditions I say are worse than in Texas is why I will forever call BS on the claims the Rangers needed to leave The Ballpark for the roofed country club they now have.
@@rowdycmoore the amazing part if the Marlins have good ownership they were way more world series in that stadium in my opinion have a great day
@@rowdycmoore"roofed country club'😂
Phins had no home field advantage like in the OB. Before the reno, it was like a morgue located on the equator.
The aqua golf driving range from there’s something about Mary is very close to hard rock stadium
You should do a video on Inter Miami needing a roof. I have been a season ticket holder from the beginning (3 years pre- Messi). We get so many weather / lightning delays. You didn’t care as much when you spent $25 on a ticket but when you spend $200 plus … problem.
It was really terrible but it's been nice since the renovation.
It seems like it'd be relatively easy to simply put one of those glass roofs on top of the open area, similar to SoFi Stadium, Allegiant Stadium, and the new Titans place in Nashville.
It's all the rage, after all, and they could get rid of those teal spikes.
The thing that sticks out like a sore thumb to me is the parking lot. Holy moly, that thing is enormous, and absolutely disgusting.
I don't know if there's any place downtown for them to go, or closer to Marlins Park, but places like this, and the old Qualcomm stadium, and Gillette and Dallas and Arizona....such a waste.
It's even worse because it's Miami. Who wants their car to sit out in the sun for 4 hours? Build some parking structures, and with all of the leftover land, do an entertainment complex, some condos, offices, etc.
Bad lighting for night games and bad weather for Marlins games. A new stadium for the Dolphins if it happened should be indoors with grass. Marlins need to wear the teal and black again and be the Florida Marlins.
Let me ask you? What if the Marlins moved and the dolphins moved into their stadium?
Marlins moved into their own stadium
The Super Bowl between the 49ers vs Chiefs was in 2020 in Miami not in 2019 & Atlanta hosted the 2019 Super Bowl between the Pats vs Rams
Why did it suck? Because it was a FREAKING OVEN on Sunday afternoon Marlins games.....
3:40 skydome was built in 80s and was multipurpose. And can't compare a stadium built in the 30s to attract the Olympics and was later used for football and baseball. To a more modern stadium
That’s the Orange Bowl right?
This you-tube is just a bunch of click bait. Just an opinion piece from somebody whose job is to give opinions. The stadium is not ''perfect" similar to the situation at most other stadiums, but disaster is an overreach (my opinion!). I have attended many foorball, soccer, and baseball games there and the idea of it being a disaster is far from my experience. Too much capacity is always an issue in arenas, but unless you put cardboard dummies in the seats, you are just seeing the reality of the situation. Who is looking at empty seats during a game anyway. You are there to watch the game, not the seats.
SB between SF & KC was in 2020
You forgot the Pro Player Stadium name
To me it will always be pro-player stadium and I love it
Pro Player Stadium
Haha that name is gone
@@bonniere8995 I meant Landshark
Crazy renovation
all the nfl stadiums will eventually have a roof except for lambo bc, legacy, i guess
hot for day baseball
Dude why does anyone , besides you, care about the outside of an nfl stadium
Built for football accommodated for baseball
Truth of the matter is that Miami-Dade County should have sent that money to build a new stadium for the Dolphins & Hurricanes except relinquishing it to "Crooked" Loria and Marlins Park.
Nonetheless, the renovations are S-tier IMHO. Far better appealing field nowadays than Joe Robbie
this guy talks like he knows what hes talking about and is always wrong and makes so many mistakes with the smallest but easiest details and gets them wrong lol It is so laughable it is the only reason i still watch his videos lol
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