Just bought this recorder yesterday. It is the most incredible thing I have heard of. I was about to buy the F8n and then I heard a review were the guy regretted buying the F8n and if he could go back in time he would by this machine. I was like... "What? I went to learn more about it and I was blown away. No way, I have to get THAT!!"
Well I pulled the trigger and got the F6... If anyone is wondering? Order one now because your going to love it! The 32 bit float is insane, I have a house full of crazy kids and a Rottweiler so the clipping has been put to test. You guys rock, Thank you.
Watching that episode of The Studio, I actually forget I was suppose to be watching a product review. I hope The Studio is renewed for another season...🤣😂
You guys still using the F6? I abandoned my Behringer 1832FX, a few years ago and moved to the Zoom H6, now I'm probably going to the F6. Just amazing..
I film some local bands in clubs & some have only the vocals amplified. I am thinking of getting 4 Sennheiser 609 mic's so I can mic the guitar and bass amps and when needed a second guitar & harmonica amp. The drums usually are good enough as are. Since it will be a 1 man team in a set it & forget it situation can I run these mic'ed amps via XLR straight into the Zoom F6? I plan on tucking it next to the drum kit.
Creative and amusing skit to showcase the dynamic range, most enjoyable. Thanks. The F6 looks like a true winner... I wonder (though I do understand this is not its main purpose) what sort of latency you might get if used as a computer audio interface for VIs/sample libraries in a DAW.
Would you still need a mixer if you had the Zoom f6. I have the Sound Devices 302 but it’s need some repair ( possibly $300 worth of repair or less ) I’m undecided if I should repair the mixer or just use the Xoom F6. My current plan is to purchase the ZoomF6 and decide what to do with the mixer.
You wouldn't necessarily need a mixer if the Zoom's complement of inputs, channels, and tracks are adequate for your projects and number of connected devices: 6-input, 14-track Analog I/O: 6 x XLR 3-Pin Female Balanced Line/Mic Input (Lockable) 1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Line Output 1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Headphone Output Digital I/O: 1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Timecode In/Out >Mark
Have you ever taken a 1/4” feed(s) from a sound board? Since it only has XLR inputs instead of combo inputs like other devices, I’m curious if line level can be sent and received through a male 1/4” to male XLR from the sound board to the F6 input(s) or is a DI box required?
I am tempted to buy one but are their any benefits of the F6 over the Sound Devices MixPre6 (which I have) if the majority of the audio I capture is via Sennheiser g3 lavs? I.e. the biggest benefit I see with the F6 is the dual AD converters and the 32-bit float recording (great job bringing that tech to pro-consumer market Zoom), but when you use lavs the receiver has an ADC and limiter so that nullifies the benefits of the dual AD converters the F6 has, right? I.e. if the lav receiver clips or hits the limiter, your recording can be damaged and you're not going to get the benefit of the F6's AD converters that could have prevented that...
Hard to go wrong with these cans: Senal SMH-1000 Professional Field and Studio Monitor Headphones B&H # SESMH1000: bhpho.to/39WnPEz Key Features : Closed-Back, Over-Ear Circumaural Design Rugged Design for Field and Studio Use Detachable, Twist-Locking Cable Design Midrange Refined to Reduce Ear Fatigue EQ Curve for Pro Field and Studio Use Collapsible for Easy Storage Soft Replaceable Ear Cushions 10' Coiled, 3' Straight Cables Included 1/4" Gold-Plated Adapter Included Limited 3-Year Warranty >Mark
if you use 32 bit float, can I still ride the fader if I have a scene that is very quiet and would feel more comfortable 'seeing" my levels And where do I get a bag for this?
@@BandH Hi there Would like to know which is better for Film making, content & videos. That also have easy access to the audio on camera, is it ( tascam or zoom f6 ) Thanx
The Zoom F6 can be triggered to record when timecode is received from an external source. Also the Zoom F-Control for F8n, F8, F6, and F4 Multitrack Field Recorders - B&H # ZOFRC8 will trigger the F6: bhpho.to/2XFNtIB >Mark
thanks for this. can i use the zoom f6 or the mixpre-3 ii with the rode video mic pro + via the 3.5 jack? are there limitations to this quality wise compared to using a xlr shotgun mic? thanks so much for your thoughts.
Neither the Zoom F6 nor the Sound Devices MixPre-3 II offer a 3.5mm/1/8" microphone input for use with the Rode VideoMic Pro. An XLR shotgun mic offers a balanced audio input, phantom power (no battery),overall better sound reproduction and a lower noise floor. >Mark
@@BandH So all I would need is a timecode sync cable like with the Mixpre3 ii? I dont need a separate generator like the Denecke? I'm just trying to clarify
That's true, but it looks like Zoom was really focused on creating a standalone, dedicated recorder that can capture the best audio possible. The other thing is that the addition of the capsules would have added $ and weight, both of which may have turned some customers off.
@@BandH They made their choice. I have an H6 and most of the Capsules. The F8 has the capsule attachment and I was ready to replace my H6 with the F6. At this time I will not be replacing it. To me, the advantage of using the Capsule is I have one box to bring and one stand. For what I do, I do not need ultra hi quality, but I do need some dynamic range. (I set and forget. I record a single performance that will have a band and later young singers. I use the 10db double recording to make sure I get both in good sound.)
@@fk319fk That makes sense. Sometimes a piece of gear checks off lots of boxes but falls just short of a particular need, so sticking with your current setup sounds like a great plan. Plus, it sounds like you really know what you're doing, which, as you know, is 75% of the battle to getting great-sounding audio. Thanks for watching (and sharing).
@@BandH Thanks. I learned a long time ago, fix a problem earliest in the pipeline where it will be the cheapest to fix. At first, I carried around a lot of gear to do this. Then I realized, sometimes it is not that expensive to wait till the next stage. In this case, I stopped carrying around my field mixer/recorder, wires, mics and power conditioner, and replaced all this with Gator case that has my h6 and most of my capsules. I like the F8, but not enough to replace my H6. The wide recording range on the F6 was enough to put it at the top of my next gear to buy. I am now going to wait to see if they move the new A/D in the F6 to the F8-A(?).
I’ve purchased this recorder to swap it for the Zoom F4 that I’ve been using for the past year as I think it suits my needs better. However, the line output to my Sony a7III from the F6 sounds so much noisier than the sub-out from the F4 did. Plus, I seem to be picking up a lot of interference from my Sennheiser AVX Lapel receiver and weird noise from my shotgun’s cable moving. This is a complete none-issue with the F4. Does anyone else seems to be experiencing weird Line out issues like this? I’m trying to figure out if I have a defective unit or if the Zoom F6 has just a very poor output solution. If that’s the case, that makes me doubt the F6’s usability on the field given that my backup track, that is the one of the camera, is close to unusable quality-wise, as with the F4, the quality was close to the same as the internally recorded on. Any insight from other users would be greatly appreciated :).
Drawbacks of the F6 include only single recording option and no real audio outputs. Too bad Zoom went for tiny size for DLSR users over function. For those sending audio to camera via XLR, there is no option let alone multiple cameras. For those needing to make WAVE files and MP3 files at the same time, also no option that I see. While the floating 32 bit option is a great option for those that can't monitor and ride levels, I'll stick with my SD 552/F4 combo to record WAVE & MP3 files, with the ability to send wireless feeds, break away cable and more to cameras. Another option is to use a SD552 for WAVE files (plenty on the used market) and Zoom F1 or other small device for the MP3 files when needed. Buy gear that fit your needs and the needs of your clients. Cheers, Scott
@@LorenzoYearby Mixpre series has some of the same problems as the Zoom. Not enough outputs and only single recording options. These new mixer/recorders are geared towards the DSLR market so they don't compete with the bigger units that cost more.
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Just bought this recorder yesterday. It is the most incredible thing I have heard of. I was about to buy the F8n and then I heard a review were the guy regretted buying the F8n and if he could go back in time he would by this machine. I was like... "What? I went to learn more about it and I was blown away. No way, I have to get THAT!!"
Well I pulled the trigger and got the F6... If anyone is wondering? Order one now because your going to love it! The 32 bit float is insane, I have a house full of crazy kids and a Rottweiler so the clipping has been put to test. You guys rock, Thank you.
The entertaining and informative approach is a good combo.
The audio is as good as any I have heard. Super clear and very compact.
Watching that episode of The Studio, I actually forget I was suppose to be watching a product review. I hope The Studio is renewed for another season...🤣😂
*That skit was PRICELESS!*
Jason R thank you kindly sir 🙏🏻
You guys still using the F6? I abandoned my Behringer 1832FX, a few years ago and moved to the Zoom H6, now I'm probably going to the F6. Just amazing..
The ending gave me chills.
Great video guys. That recorder looks amazing!
Great Job! nice mixture of the info and fun, keep it going! Thank You!
Rapped that cord like a boy scout!
Thanks for Sharing!
I love these videos! You guys should be in Hollywood or something.
Yeah, waste of time
I film some local bands in clubs & some have only the vocals amplified.
I am thinking of getting 4 Sennheiser 609 mic's so I can mic the guitar
and bass amps and
when needed a second guitar & harmonica amp. The drums usually are good enough as are.
Since it will be a 1 man team in a set it & forget it situation can I run these mic'ed amps via XLR straight into the Zoom F6?
I plan on tucking it next to the drum kit.
Great review, I’m sold, love the sketch 😂
Creative and amusing skit to showcase the dynamic range, most enjoyable. Thanks. The F6 looks like a true winner... I wonder (though I do understand this is not its main purpose) what sort of latency you might get if used as a computer audio interface for VIs/sample libraries in a DAW.
This is great! love example of product from the scene. So Creative.
Would you still need a mixer if you had the Zoom f6. I have the Sound Devices 302 but it’s need some repair ( possibly $300 worth of repair or less ) I’m undecided if I should repair the mixer or just use the Xoom F6. My current plan is to purchase the ZoomF6 and decide what to do with the mixer.
You wouldn't necessarily need a mixer if the Zoom's complement of inputs, channels, and tracks are adequate for your projects and number of connected devices:
6-input, 14-track
Analog I/O:
6 x XLR 3-Pin Female Balanced Line/Mic Input (Lockable)
1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Line Output
1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Female Unbalanced Headphone Output
Digital I/O: 1 x 1/8" / 3.5 mm TRS Timecode In/Out
>Mark
I want this for my video production!
This cable talk is far too real 😂😂😂
I know right?!
I want an f6 😍
Is there any slate tone generator built into the menu system?
It's the audio equivalent of HDR photography.
im sold
wait...what happened with the cable wrap guys???
Have you ever taken a 1/4” feed(s) from a sound board? Since it only has XLR inputs instead of combo inputs like other devices, I’m curious if line level can be sent and received through a male 1/4” to male XLR from the sound board to the F6 input(s) or is a DI box required?
The XLR inputs will accept a balanced line level input, so using a 1/4" to XLR cable should be fine. >Mark
Still was wrappin it wrong! Over-under buddy. Great review!
I am tempted to buy one but are their any benefits of the F6 over the Sound Devices MixPre6 (which I have) if the majority of the audio I capture is via Sennheiser g3 lavs? I.e. the biggest benefit I see with the F6 is the dual AD converters and the 32-bit float recording (great job bringing that tech to pro-consumer market Zoom), but when you use lavs the receiver has an ADC and limiter so that nullifies the benefits of the dual AD converters the F6 has, right? I.e. if the lav receiver clips or hits the limiter, your recording can be damaged and you're not going to get the benefit of the F6's AD converters that could have prevented that...
Question is, do you prefer the sound of a limited signal? or a completely clean signal which you then have the flexibility to work with in post?
Hello AB. Would you like to recommend me a headphone to use with Zoom F6 for monitoring audio while shooting video? Thanks in advance.
Hard to go wrong with these cans:
Senal SMH-1000 Professional Field and Studio Monitor Headphones
B&H # SESMH1000: bhpho.to/39WnPEz
Key Features
:
Closed-Back, Over-Ear Circumaural Design
Rugged Design for Field and Studio Use
Detachable, Twist-Locking Cable Design
Midrange Refined to Reduce Ear Fatigue
EQ Curve for Pro Field and Studio Use
Collapsible for Easy Storage
Soft Replaceable Ear Cushions
10' Coiled, 3' Straight Cables Included
1/4" Gold-Plated Adapter Included
Limited 3-Year Warranty
>Mark
when it’ll be available for order?
New Item - Coming Soon
- Expected availability: Beginning of Oct 2019. >Mark
My next recorder For live music
Mind blown, IKR! Just adjust for the mix and that's it. Hmmmm.
if you use 32 bit float, can I still ride the fader if I have a scene that is very quiet and would feel more comfortable 'seeing" my levels
And where do I get a bag for this?
You can still ride the fader in 32-bit float recording mode. ORCA OR-268 Low-Profile Audio Mixer Bag for Zoom F6
B&H # OR268: bhpho.to/3bLH4iz >Mark
Thanks for reviewing but i want ask u the zoom f6 need sync sound or dirctly going to camera sound
The F6 can output directly to a cameras audio input. >Mark
@@BandH Hi there
Would like to know which is better for Film making, content & videos.
That also have easy access to the audio on camera, is it ( tascam or zoom f6 )
Thanx
Is there any way to trigger recording remotely with this unit? I know it doesn't have HDMI in or through, but can any of the other ports do this?
The Zoom F6 can be triggered to record when timecode is received from an external source. Also the Zoom F-Control for F8n, F8, F6, and F4 Multitrack Field Recorders - B&H # ZOFRC8 will trigger the F6: bhpho.to/2XFNtIB >Mark
thanks for this. can i use the zoom f6 or the mixpre-3 ii with the rode video mic pro + via the 3.5 jack? are there limitations to this quality wise compared to using a xlr shotgun mic? thanks so much for your thoughts.
Neither the Zoom F6 nor the Sound Devices MixPre-3 II offer a 3.5mm/1/8" microphone input for use with the Rode VideoMic Pro. An XLR shotgun mic offers a balanced audio input, phantom power (no battery),overall better sound reproduction and a lower noise floor. >Mark
I know it you can sync timecode with the F6, but can it actually generate it's on timecode?
Yes it does. According to Zoom the F6’s Temperature Compensated Crystal Oscillator (TCXO) generates time code at 0.2 ppm accuracy.
Thanks!
-Joey P
@@BandH So all I would need is a timecode sync cable like with the Mixpre3 ii? I dont need a separate generator like the Denecke? I'm just trying to clarify
@@LorenzoYearby That is correct! No external TC generators would be necessary. >Mark
No slating mic?
Afraid not. The Zoom F8n does offer this feature: Zoom F8n 8-Input / 10-Track Multi-Track Field Recorder
• BH #ZOF8N: bhpho.to/2MpKFJ5 >Mark
The one thing this device does not have is the Zoom Capsules Connector that attaches to a bunch of mics I have already bought.
That's true, but it looks like Zoom was really focused on creating a standalone, dedicated recorder that can capture the best audio possible. The other thing is that the addition of the capsules would have added $ and weight, both of which may have turned some customers off.
@@BandH They made their choice. I have an H6 and most of the Capsules. The F8 has the capsule attachment and I was ready to replace my H6 with the F6. At this time I will not be replacing it.
To me, the advantage of using the Capsule is I have one box to bring and one stand. For what I do, I do not need ultra hi quality, but I do need some dynamic range. (I set and forget. I record a single performance that will have a band and later young singers. I use the 10db double recording to make sure I get both in good sound.)
@@fk319fk That makes sense. Sometimes a piece of gear checks off lots of boxes but falls just short of a particular need, so sticking with your current setup sounds like a great plan. Plus, it sounds like you really know what you're doing, which, as you know, is 75% of the battle to getting great-sounding audio. Thanks for watching (and sharing).
@@BandH Thanks. I learned a long time ago, fix a problem earliest in the pipeline where it will be the cheapest to fix. At first, I carried around a lot of gear to do this. Then I realized, sometimes it is not that expensive to wait till the next stage. In this case, I stopped carrying around my field mixer/recorder, wires, mics and power conditioner, and replaced all this with Gator case that has my h6 and most of my capsules. I like the F8, but not enough to replace my H6. The wide recording range on the F6 was enough to put it at the top of my next gear to buy.
I am now going to wait to see if they move the new A/D in the F6 to the F8-A(?).
Which lav mics did ya’ll use
Hey there. Those were Sennheiser AVX wireless mics. Thanks for watching.
5:30 ME-2 lav on the narrator
damn this is great
f6, mic, cable. all I need?
Yes. But do not forget the memory card: SanDisk 256GB Extreme PRO UHS-I SDXC Memory Card
B&H # SAEPSD256GB. bhpho.to/2SRo6xV. >Mark
I’ve purchased this recorder to swap it for the Zoom F4 that I’ve been using for the past year as I think it suits my needs better. However, the line output to my Sony a7III from the F6 sounds so much noisier than the sub-out from the F4 did. Plus, I seem to be picking up a lot of interference from my Sennheiser AVX Lapel receiver and weird noise from my shotgun’s cable moving. This is a complete none-issue with the F4. Does anyone else seems to be experiencing weird Line out issues like this? I’m trying to figure out if I have a defective unit or if the Zoom F6 has just a very poor output solution.
If that’s the case, that makes me doubt the F6’s usability on the field given that my backup track, that is the one of the camera, is close to unusable quality-wise, as with the F4, the quality was close to the same as the internally recorded on.
Any insight from other users would be greatly appreciated :).
Please e-mail us at: Askbh@bandh.com >Mark
Drawbacks of the F6 include only single recording option and no real audio outputs. Too bad Zoom went for tiny size for DLSR users over function.
For those sending audio to camera via XLR, there is no option let alone multiple cameras. For those needing to make WAVE files and MP3 files at the same time, also no option that I see.
While the floating 32 bit option is a great option for those that can't monitor and ride levels, I'll stick with my SD 552/F4 combo to record WAVE & MP3 files, with the ability to send wireless feeds, break away cable and more to cameras.
Another option is to use a SD552 for WAVE files (plenty on the used market) and Zoom F1 or other small device for the MP3 files when needed.
Buy gear that fit your needs and the needs of your clients.
Cheers, Scott
Can the mixpre3 ii send audio into the camera?
@@LorenzoYearby Mixpre series has some of the same problems as the Zoom. Not enough outputs and only single recording options. These new mixer/recorders are geared towards the DSLR market so they don't compete with the bigger units that cost more.
LMAOOOOOOO that skit was too good
Low noise for real....😊