What Makes a Class Good or Bad? - MapleStory Hidden Potential Podcast #3
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
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Introduction 00:00:00 - 00:05:05
Remasters 00:05:05 - 00:50:48
New Pitched 00:50:48 - 01:04:51
Bad V Skills Hexa 01:04:51 - 01:19:18
Good or Bad Class 01:19:18 - 02:03:33
Oz Rings 02:03:33 - 02:16:41
Ending 02:16:41 - 02:26:43
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For the love of God! Get this podcast weekly!! We need a weekly maplestory podcast!
Do not bait me with “phantom good” thumbnail 🥲😭😭
Thank you for supporting me maining Phantom :( here’s to a well deserved remaster as well! Loved this vid as an OG on and off returning player keep this content up please guys! We need your insights on the game and future progrssion!
Cool meta change is a new oz ring or common 6th skill that stores damage over time and bursts during fd stacking to help dpm classes
Also emphasizes skilled gameplay of being able to stick and have dmg uptime. Because burst still can use it just wont benefit as much and make dpm classes stronger solo and better for pitch drops and such
Although a class could be good/bad in comparison to others in terms of dps, mobbing, bossing in general, etc. There is no actually “bad” class. It’s up to the player’s preference.
I’m sure somewhere there are very funded Mechanics, Blaze Wizards, etc. players with pitch boss equips.
If there’s one tip I would give to any maple player is to play what you like. Don’t look at damage charts and shit. If you like Cannoneer, Fire/Poison Mage by all means go for it.
Progressively speaking, any class can be at the same level as other players’. Sure, a class like Night Lord might have an easier time bossing but I’m sure with dedication, any class can clear the same bosses they would with ease
Will we get to listen to hidden potential on itunes/spotify and other podcatcher apps soon? I love the youtube channel. Last week started on Solis EU, and with your clear (with your very articulate voice) guides on everything maplestory, it kickstarted me on my linkskills / legion for my paladin.
no plans for that atm, its kinda casual, but who knows maybe if we get big enough!
have Scardor on stream. He's really knowledegable of the game
hey i have a question i have an account with 4k legion burned a shad there but i really dont like it and i claimed every burning reward i want to play lynn should i create a new account and hyperburn her there or should i wait until winter update and play then
"just lock in Fizz" had me rolling, fuck that champ
This will be a very great listen while I grind! Hoping my class is considered good 😅
we’re back
YEOOO CHILLS PODCAST
W podcast! ty for making content, mate
More please some of yall ideas actually hitting
saved for later while grinding ms
1:31:18 As an midgame pally grinding through liberation quests, I wish my partner(s) understood that just casting Divine Echo isn't enough to get the full bonuses and not run away from me every time I'm casting the rest of the FD buffs (also please Nexon buff Paladin for heaven's sakes)
01:34:22 best part of the video
I really do not like the idea of phantom losing skill steal. That's the point of his class to me. What I would do 1. Phantom copies are their own "lesser" versions of skills, and can be balanced separately. 2. Let him steal everyone's skills.
I’m not in the endgame at all, but just thinking, couldn’t Nexon just make a boss that is class required and split it up that way??
Example have to run with 3+ class types. There are phases where the INT class has a room, DEX has a room, STR, etc
Edit: in regards to the FD stacking issue
yea that would be cool, they touched on that concept in kaling
All perspectives is crazy wheres reg server?
They forgot our existence
The more the class is like Shadower, the better it is.
Can't tell if sarcasm, it is in such a bad state at the endgame level
I think phantom should really just be un-nerfed back to his strongest point regarding impeccable memory, there's plenty great non-explorer classes in the game he can't even steal off of, and most of the time it barely even does anything to steal offensive skills which are STILL nerfed to fix when he used to hit old damage cap with stolen arrow platters. He might be a little on the overtuned side, but I really don't think it'd be a big deal currently, not like he can steal 5th or 6th job skills, which are some of the most important now.
12k subs soon, chills
chills
common core can be a new bind that enhances erda nova so u can bind next-gen bosses xD imagine.
Like the podcast!
love podcasts
When is the next podcast?
y'all yap while I wap
ty for the great 2nd monitor content
best podcast
where is our boy taco in the thumbnail
fixed!
When will we be getting the shade and aran remasters to GMS?? And will we get a Tera Blink again?
november ish and idk
W podcast
No up jump = L
coppersan guest star?
would be a dream come true
I know for a fact that you thought about me when you made the thumbnail and talked about phantom
you def sound like a phantom main with the main character syndrome lol
@@blackbeard5886im a hero of the maple world
Bucc bad, bish please
Bucc god tier
OMG! IS THAT A NEW EPISODE OF HIDDEN POTENTIAL???????????? :O
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
spiritgate and smashing punch are 60seconds currently, spirit flow is still 120s cd
the problem with the revamp is that moonbeam is gone, spirit bond max got completely changed and is way worse, spirit flow is way worse, 6min skill is way worse and bland and boring as well
the only things that are a buff is that spirit ward is a toggle instead of an active and they gained 20% ied as a party debuff which keeping all current debuffs
Have you become Scardor?! Why must it be a 2hour video 😭
You do know its a podcast right?
Weird Scardor stray for no reason.... It's a podcast designed to just listen to and grind or something....
Blaster best class
Spin
They should make a 6th job party buff base on the job for example: archers give %crit dmg mages give % buff duration pirates give % boss
warriors give dmg reduction on % enemy attack and thiefs give % ied
Ill be honest, idk if you have all perspectives when you are all 50k+ hour maple gamers, talking about stuff like so yeah in hkaling like bruh... 99.999% of the playerbase isnt even close to that and if anyone who is just a average mapler like me listens to this its irrelevant, maybe bring in someone whos in the BM level so we can atleast hear the perspective of someone closer to the medium of players
id like to think my POV is pretty good cuz i've restarted many times LOL
@@Duky thats def true, but i'd argue you on a fresh account with a 245 is closer to endgame than your average 265 4k legion player is
as someone who has blaze wizard as one of my mains, blaze wizard was definitely the best one out of the entire cygnus revamp
they did almost everything they needed to do for blaze wizard, what is still missing:
~ 1st/2nd/3rd job attacks need to be changed to become relevant
~ an alternate teleport that functions the same as Evan's current teleport [but looks fiery] for bossing (while keeping current Flashfire)
~ Salamander gets revamped into a toggle skill with 100% uptime
~ Fox/Lion Mode gain an infinite duration when you activate them so you don't need to keep re-summoning them
they do these changes and Blaze Wizard would actually be a perfect class
Mhm.
Love your video but ngl these are a snoozefest to get thru
Maybe play it to try and fall asleep then! As long as you find some use to the video, i'm happy LOL
People bind and burst because bosses are too hard, two ways to fix it:
1. Can either make bosses easier (could do this one anyways.)
2. Make supports way better at being supports, turn support-hybrids more into proper supports, and make more supports so that when you boss with a support it is like bossing in easy mode so you don't need to kill bosses in sub 5 minutes and make players willing to do long boss runs.
This is the better solution as it means players that want a harder boss fight, they can either solo it or not party with a support, while everyone else will party with supports to make for a better bossing experience. The true support aspect right now is extremely underpowered and needs to be buffed up, as well as we need a lot more true supports added into the game other than Bishop and Lynn only, plus reduces damage creep with more of a focus on utility over damage buffs.
The bosses really arent "too hard", people bind and burst bosses because they suck and dont want to put in the effort to learn, they would rather overgear and cheese it.
1. This game is really not that hard, the only somewhat challenging part (endgame bossing) does not need to be made easier. If they made these bosses much easier you would be completely brain off blasting through them like mobbing. Each boss only has a handful of mechanics and patterns, comparing this game to any other raiding mmo it is incredibly easy.
2. Sounds like a great way to introduce an even worse support shortage into the game. Like they mentioned in the video, people will just take the path of least resistance and if you can take a support and it will bring so much utility it just enables you to brain afk clear bosses, everyone will feel it is necessary to have a support. You have to especially consider that if they added crazy utility to supports they would have to also add crazy mechanics to the bosses so that the supports dont trivialize the content, which then makes anyone running supportless have a horrible or impossible time. Noone "wants a harder boss fight" so the meta will just gravitate to the optimal party being 1-6 supports, unless you want them to nerf support damage and bossing which will have its own host of issues (noone will play support if it cant mob or solo boss in a game where 95% of the content is mobbing and solo bossing).
This will again force nexon to design the new bosses to counter that meta, which will just harm the people soloing or progging without several supports in their party.
I get the impression you just want this game to full on babymode hold your hand which is cool, but don't pretend its whats best for the game. These changes would ultimately cause wayyyyyyyyy more issues than they solve.
@@momoaa Who cares what someone else does. If people want to play on easy mode let them, does not affect you whatsoever, if you want to play on hard mode then go ahead.
That is the beauty of having way stronger supports, turning other jobs to become proper supports, and adding in more support classes is so that players can struggle on boss fights without needing to feel like that they got to overpower the boss to kill it.
You can have your harder boss fights, everyone else can have an easier time and everyone wins.
If bosses were easy, then people would not opt into under 5 mins bind and burst explosive boss fights, but the reality is that boss fights are too hard for people which is why they opt into bind and burst.
@@MasterStacona
1. way to ignore everything I typed about how it would straight up just be awful for the game. It does affect what "I" do, because the devs balance the game on the general playerbase so this would affect everyone. These stronger supports would become required for bosses because you cant have strong supportive utility existing and balance the game pretending it doesnt, so you would again, have to mega buff the bosses and they would become unclearable solo and the only viable comps would be support stacking because why would you take a dps when you could take a dps that also supports (think the issue we already have but 10x worse).
Bossing is in a good spot and at worst needs small class balance tweaks and new bosses to freshen stuff up, not a total overhaul and certainly not the one you have in mind.
2. people opt for under 5 minute bind and burst parties because 1) they suck and 2) they lose their entry for the week upon dying out. The easiest fix would just be not losing your entry unless you make it to the loot room, but this brings other issues to the game like bussing people (leaving at 1% after carrying a boss, repeatable infinitely, usually for real money)
I thank god you are not in charge of anything to do with the balance of this game, you dont understand that the bossing experience in this game is already one of the easiest in mmos, and then on top of that the bosses legitimately do get all the frustrating stuff nerfed out. It might be time to pick up solitaire or something if you still feel like the game isnt handholding you enough
@@momoaa that's nice dear, never go into game design sweetie
@@MasterStacona no rebuttal, again. kk byebye enjoy your solitaire
None of the classes are bad, they all are good, and Kaiser is outdated.
Demon Slayer is a bad class technically, but they are a simple brain dead class so people who want a super easy class to play that only care about burst should main Demon Slayer.
How is DS by any criteria a bad class? Insane damage, survivability with glide and s, uptime kit with super fast rush and map wide tp, fantastic damage distribution for party bossing, easy to play, etc.
@@anonymousl5150 Demon Slayer is slow and very clunky so it is hard to dodge boss attack, especially dodge boss attacks while also dealing damage, and all of their damage is on burst and they are not even the top burst classes.
Demon Avenger is absolutely cracked for bossing, constantly dealing full damage and able to dodge attacks, but they are very hard to play - while Demon Slayer is very easy to play so more people play it.
@@MasterStacona DS has the same speed as any other class and has the best rush in the game with no endlag. Gliding is literally op in bossing. Literally the top burst classes like Kain, Merc, and Ark do poor damage off of burst. You have zero clue what you are talking about. DA has a much slower rush than DS, has no instant tp to boss, and needs to constantly stick to the boss for frenzy damage and short range exceed. And to match a DS's damage you have to literally play 29 frenzy, your survivability is far worse for the same damage.
Say that to the first GMS XBM Solo by a DS