Любимый композитор,незаслуженно получивший ярлык этюдника для развития техники. А. на самом деле, многие его произведения необычайно музыкальны ,гаромоничны ,виртуозны ... Вызывает восхищение!❤ Спасибо.
Beautiful, I never knew what a great composer he was. And a chosen pupil of Beethoven...this is my favorite etude!! Thank you!! I subscribed also to your channel, great many selections! Thank you!
This study is the end of " Etudes " classical-dance coreographer Harald Lander , it' K Riisager who made orchestra of this study for the ballet " Etude " .
Reminds me of Alkan... Some of the etudes sounds like this one ie etude en forme molossique...czerny's set of exercises are actually musical...last one is like brahms pagannini variations... Awesome
@@alejandrom.4680 Alkan era menos Virtuoso que Czerny! Como te explicas que Liszt llegó a ser el más Virtuoso? Tocando obras de Alkan o de Czerny??!! Ya tienes tu respuesta y ni de chiste Alkan o Liszt tienen cosas más dificiles que los Opus 364, 365, 399, 400 o sus conciertos para piano. Ahora mismo estoy aprendiendo la campanella y mazeppa y déjame decirte que cuando regreso al Op.740 y al 299 siguen costando mucho trabajo! Ahora te imaginas el Op.365 y los otros que mencioné? Espero que puedas imaginar eso
"czerny is my favorite composer." Oof. Czerny has a number of decent miniatures, but was a largely mediocre composer and you must be out of your mind to consider him your favorite one.
I regret to inform you're an ignorant, Czerny is one of the greatest geniuses his work covers all styles except for opera. I recommend seeking their symphonies, concertos, preludes and fugue, etc. Save yourself insults because if you call Czerny so just imagine where you stay or do not have a work.
Czeyner La Mente Musical There's no need to regret anything. Why would you say that? Do you have any specific examples? Some of his sonatas were good, and plenty of his etudes, mostly from op. 740 were great or at least very good, but the rest of his massive oeuvre is mostly mediocre, not bad, but not good either. If Czerny were one of the greatest geniuses, (I'm assuming you mean in music), there would be little reason for the vast, vast majority of his work, (with the exception of his etudes, which are hardly studied primarily for their artistic merit), lay in almost complete obscurity. He was the pupil of Beethoven, and the teacher of Liszt, perhaps the most renowned pianist in history, and his etudes are by far the most popular pedagogical material for young pianists, so there should be no problem of him being too obscure to be appreciated in his "genius." There's also the fact there's nothing remotely avant-garde about his music, it being some of the easiest to understand. Several famous composers have offered appreciation of Czerny, but nothing to extent of claiming that he's the greatest genius of anything. It seems that, if Czerny is one of the greatest composers, it seems like you'll be one of few ones to ever know it, as the world, ignorant as it may be, has been given every opportunity to appreciate his music to the extent it deserves, but simply can't even begin to offer equivalent praises to what you give. But seriously, if you can suggest recorded works that you think are underappreciated, I would like to hear such suggestions.
Right now I'm going all the works of Czerny that have not been touched, tarry some years to complete this task subscribe to my channel and gradually you can listen these works and those of other composers. This book virtuosos studies is their greatest works are harder to study than those Frederyk chopin right now I'm playing five Chopin Etudes and I can assure you that although not everyone values their work is left not to be great, I recommend listen to all his symphonies and nocturnes.
Which is the "ultimate" etude of Opus 365? Also, I think Opus 364 is Czerny's "ultimate" etude overall, though I haven't heard the others. An 8-minute long monster of dazzling bravura virtuosity.
Another commenter mentioned Méreaux. An apt comparison, I feel. In this study, Czerny shows the same degree of skill in writing tunes and variety of harmony, and slightly more skill in knowing when to bring a piece to its end.
As I've mentioned in another video, I think these 60 Czerny etudes are comparable to Mereaux's 60 etudes. I'm even wondering if Mereaux got the idea from Czerny. Are either of these sets playable as concert etudes? Or are they more of simply exercises? They are so difficult, imagine what it would be like if some virtuoso actually played them at tempo. It would be furious...but I'm not sure how interesting they can be made into.
op 740 is way easier than the 365. if you listen to no 13 and others it is clear that 365 is the peak of cherry’s etudes, besides classical music school classify 740 as levels 6 and 7 and keep 365 for level 8 and baccalauréat
@@ritamirabawab6117 there are etudes even harder than those of Opus 365, such as Opus 364 (Grand Excercise), Opus 348 (Improvisatory Fantasy), Opus 82 (Grand Excercise in f minor), and others - visit cleador's channel. Not only are they harder, they are even more musical. Worth a look for any serious performer in my opinion. They're like the "Transcendental etudes" before the Transcendental etudes were a thing.
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Hmm really? Wow where did you get that info? Do you think a performance of the whole book be interesting enough for a concert, like how Maltempo played through Alkan's op. 39?
@@Santosificationable There are books for sale from op. 365 on the Internet where the title is a concert market school especially mercadolibre.com of Argentina and one of my country Mexico but the seller does not answer me 😬😤 maybe he died because he was a big person
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 What? There is a reason other writers are a part of the conventional repertoire of classical music and Czerny isn't. His etudes are dispensable.
@@mantictac The only expendable thing I see is the entire repertoire on your channel, your comments and your way of thinking. so you better watch your words when you talk about Czerny (the most important piano repertoire that I create to the greatest pianists) if Czerny had not existed there would not be Liszt, Chopin, Thalberg, etc.
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Czerny definitely was a good composer when it counted (he made a good few interesting contributions to many forms of piano literature, like his teacher, Beethoven), but he spent most of his career writing studies that are so ordinary that they may as well have been generated by a computer. Look at this etude. It's almost exclusively comprised of a plain, undeveloped circle of fifths progression, harmonized in plain chords or octaves, with some clumsy, poorly voiced ending chords thrown into the mix. If Czerny hadn't written these etudes, pianists of the day could surely have quickly sketched something basic that honed the same skill, or improvised it. Also, that's not true at all. Czerny introduced none of those 3 people to music. When he first met Chopin, he was an established, 18-year-old composer. I'd better watch my words? Why? Czerny did not invent the modern pianist, he was not the only pedagogue of the time. Once I gave him a pretty average criticism, you threw a tantrum and went and disliked a video of mine, leaving an embarrassing comment. What's so wrong with my way of thinking? You don't see me doing that.
@@mantictac what nonsense are you talking ????? Seriously, it makes me a bit nauseous to answer you, you are not giving any argument to defend your criticism because there is not, also if you realize this is a midi recording and what is wrong with using a circle of fifths? that circle of fifths fits perfectly in this study, it is a study that expresses very beautiful things but surely if this study had been composed by Liszt, Alkan or Chopin you would have commented that it is quite good, so I will not waste my time with someone anymore that he lives wrong and that now he believes he has the authority to say that it is good or bad and even worse you think you have the level of master of harmony and counterpoint of the highest level to start saying that you are free to say what you think is right !! !! the only badly made and clumsy chords are those from Chopin's winter wind studio, that's a silly mass of sounds
7 лет назад+6
And now each repetition 20 times, not just 2 times.. As the description says.
Hey buddy will you go up the other 30 etudes? I would like to recommend you that some do not exaggerate in speed a clear example is study 18 is so much speed that can not be appreciated.
Наступила эра К. ЧЕРНИ. Боже, как я не любила этюды вообще и Черни в частности, играла потому, что нужно было иметь в репертуаре. И теперь Черни моя любовь, ну и исполнители тоже...
И я тоже! Мне 45 лет, в школе их терпеть не могла. А сейчас учится дочка, и я для себя открыла заново Черни. Такие красивые этюды, стройные, с четким каркасом. Одно удовольствие и слушать, и исполнять, если с умом.
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 How is etude 15 going? It's realy hard.. also, the original tempo of no.45 is faster than this one actually... This is the original tempo ruclips.net/video/7mhZUShrAx4/видео.html
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Este estudio tiene variaciones a la passacaglia de Händel, es lo único. Absurdo y monótono, fue muy exprimido por muchos compositores ya.
@@alejandrom.4680 vaya pedazo de ignorante que resultaste ser! Estás muy equivocado si crees que la armonía es infinita!!! Ya se usaron todas las combinaciones de acordes posibles en toda la música escrita así que no veo nada de malo en que muchos Compositores hayan escogido una progresión en especial! O me vas a decir alguna otra tontería? 🤔 yo supongo que vas decir algo que me va a matar de la risa 😂
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Creo que nunca has escuchado composiciones vanguardistas..., y sobre los acordes, que no sean infinitos no argumenta que hayan utilizado la misma progresión muchísimas veces, sobre explotandola.
Czeyner La Mente Musical You're welcome to mention Czerny studies superior to audience and pianists' favorite such as no. 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12 from the op. 10 set, and no. 1, 5, 9, 11 from the op. 25 set.
@@Manx123 to your taste? the chopin etudes are very boring, right now I'm playing the 27 and it's too boring! they are very inferior even to the etudes of Henselt! Czerny and Henselt win this battle, Chopin loses
Любимый композитор,незаслуженно получивший ярлык этюдника для развития техники. А. на самом деле, многие его произведения необычайно музыкальны ,гаромоничны ,виртуозны ... Вызывает восхищение!❤ Спасибо.
This is my favorite Czerny Etude. Brilliant, melodious and also a great exercise.all in one.
Thank you!
visit my channel, I have a lot of Czerny music that you are going to love
Totally Agree
I still prefer Czerny's Ocean Wave Etude over this one.
El que ponga un "no me gusta" en Czerny, es por qué jamás podrá tocarlo! ....esto es hermoso! Un estudio con una libertad única!
Visita mi canal, tengo mucha música de Czerny!
아 놔 여기는 베트남어인가
La neta si :'v
@@user-zc1fz5lb4u 그보단 에스파냐어에 가까운 것 같습니다만..?
Crazy addictive to listen to
Beautiful, I never knew what a great composer he was. And a chosen pupil of Beethoven...this is my favorite etude!! Thank you!!
I subscribed also to your channel, great many selections! Thank you!
Я тоже раньше его не видела. Классный этюд.👍
This etude is Perfect. I am playing that.
Gorgeous. And the rhythm is hypnotic!
This study is the end of " Etudes " classical-dance coreographer Harald Lander , it' K Riisager who made orchestra of this study for the ballet " Etude " .
Reminds me of Alkan... Some of the etudes sounds like this one ie etude en forme molossique...czerny's set of exercises are actually musical...last one is like brahms pagannini variations... Awesome
Czerny composed this Etude two decades earlier than the Alkan etudes and also earlier than the Brahms variations
Czerny Is more Hard Than Alkan in General.
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 this is just a lie
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Czerny no es ni de lejos más difícil que Alkan, no digas patrañas. Hasta Liszt temía por los estudios de Alkan.
@@alejandrom.4680 Alkan era menos Virtuoso que Czerny! Como te explicas que Liszt llegó a ser el más Virtuoso? Tocando obras de Alkan o de Czerny??!! Ya tienes tu respuesta y ni de chiste Alkan o Liszt tienen cosas más dificiles que los Opus 364, 365, 399, 400 o sus conciertos para piano. Ahora mismo estoy aprendiendo la campanella y mazeppa y déjame decirte que cuando regreso al Op.740 y al 299 siguen costando mucho trabajo! Ahora te imaginas el Op.365 y los otros que mencioné? Espero que puedas imaginar eso
Очень круто!!!! Браво!!!!
Czerny prelude in g minor cant traumatize you
Czerny prelude in g minor:
I like it very much! Tks ❤
오~ 체르니 맞나요?!!! 넘 멋져요💗 늘 부럽네요👍😍
please suscribe my youtube channel i have unknow czerny music
This is a La Folia variation if I’m not mistaken
Awesome, thanks for sharing! Please post more videos from 365 if you have them.
thanks!
Patrick Leib view my channel
Czerny: Liszt study this you might use this later
Liszt: yes teacher
Liszt later: "mazeppa"
Mazeppa💀
Never heard of it. Love it tho!!!
please suscribe my youtube channel y have unknow czerny music
You are still alive?
This sounds like something Liszt would do in his spare time... lovely.
Это еще одна вариация на тему Пассакальи Генделя, очень талантливая, как и всё у Черни.
а почему вариация Генделя? золотая секвенция же много, где используется
Perfect 🙂🎹🎵
Какая красивая вещь.♥️
아름다운 멜로디에요...들을수 있어서 너무감사하죠^^
쉽다 어렵다...개개인이 느끼는 생각인거지...그걸 꼭 말할필요가 있을까요?
쇼팽 에튀드를 잘 치는사람도.. 체르니 에튀드가 어려울수 있구요...체르니 에튀가 쉬운사람은 쇼팽에튀드가 어려울수 있죠...사람마다 손이 다르잖아요..근데 쇼팽에튀드는 치는사람도많고 정보도 많은데.. 아름다운소리와 음악을 작곡해서 들을수 있음억 즐거워하고 감사함을 느꼈음 좋겠습니다^^
Гениально!
Насколько я понял - там написано, что надо каждый кусок по 20 раз играть). Очень длинный венский вальс))
20 Repeat bars are only for study
Just too cool!
Tempo at 1.25x speed.
Easy to play for that machine
Maravilhoso!
Every repetition 20 times?
오우야
사..람이.진짜. .. 칠수인..나요.......
쳐다보기도 싫던 체르니가 이렇게 듣기좋을 줄이야
ㅎㅎ 저도 이곡은 진짜 좋네요
그러게요...... 체르니는 솔직히 그다지 아름답다는 느낌이 아닌데 이건 되게 듣기 좋음....... 근데 악보는 쳐다보기 싫네요
@@알게뭐야-n7s 윗분들이 이걸 들으면서 알캉 생각났다고 하는데, 듣기 좋은데 정작 악보 보기는 싫어지는(...) 건 대다수의 알캉 곡도 똑같죠. ㄷㄷ
Wait Stephan are you a Korean per person?
인정
Beautiful!!!!!wooooo
I love this etude and all music of czerny is my favorite composer.
I agree
"czerny is my favorite composer."
Oof. Czerny has a number of decent miniatures, but was a largely mediocre composer and you must be out of your mind to consider him your favorite one.
I regret to inform you're an ignorant, Czerny is one of the greatest geniuses his work covers all styles except for opera. I recommend seeking their symphonies, concertos, preludes and fugue, etc. Save yourself insults because if you call Czerny so just imagine where you stay or do not have a work.
Czeyner La Mente Musical There's no need to regret anything. Why would you say that? Do you have any specific examples? Some of his sonatas were good, and plenty of his etudes, mostly from op. 740 were great or at least very good, but the rest of his massive oeuvre is mostly mediocre, not bad, but not good either.
If Czerny were one of the greatest geniuses, (I'm assuming you mean in music), there would be little reason for the vast, vast majority of his work, (with the exception of his etudes, which are hardly studied primarily for their artistic merit), lay in almost complete obscurity. He was the pupil of Beethoven, and the teacher of Liszt, perhaps the most renowned pianist in history, and his etudes are by far the most popular pedagogical material for young pianists, so there should be no problem of him being too obscure to be appreciated in his "genius." There's also the fact there's nothing remotely avant-garde about his music, it being some of the easiest to understand. Several famous composers have offered appreciation of Czerny, but nothing to extent of claiming that he's the greatest genius of anything.
It seems that, if Czerny is one of the greatest composers, it seems like you'll be one of few ones to ever know it, as the world, ignorant as it may be, has been given every opportunity to appreciate his music to the extent it deserves, but simply can't even begin to offer equivalent praises to what you give.
But seriously, if you can suggest recorded works that you think are underappreciated, I would like to hear such suggestions.
Right now I'm going all the works of Czerny that have not been touched, tarry some years to complete this task subscribe to my channel and gradually you can listen these works and those of other composers. This book virtuosos studies is their greatest works are harder to study than those Frederyk chopin right now I'm playing five Chopin Etudes and I can assure you that although not everyone values their work is left not to be great, I recommend listen to all his symphonies and nocturnes.
Я тоже сыграю этот этюд это очень красиво просто круто на мне ооооочень понравиллсь❤️
Epic.
Which is the "ultimate" etude of Opus 365? Also, I think Opus 364 is Czerny's "ultimate" etude overall, though I haven't heard the others. An 8-minute long monster of dazzling bravura virtuosity.
Santosificationable listen to number 13 opus 365. thank me later
체르니가 60도 있었군요...ㄷㄷ
어려워 보이지만 쉬운곡이군요~!♡♣☆
Another commenter mentioned Méreaux. An apt comparison, I feel. In this study, Czerny shows the same degree of skill in writing tunes and variety of harmony, and slightly more skill in knowing when to bring a piece to its end.
헐 쩐다... 쳐봐야지
Almost sounds like a variation of Paganini 24.
Funny how the segment from 1:00 to 1:15 has got some Latin ring to it.
As I've mentioned in another video, I think these 60 Czerny etudes are comparable to Mereaux's 60 etudes. I'm even wondering if Mereaux got the idea from Czerny. Are either of these sets playable as concert etudes? Or are they more of simply exercises? They are so difficult, imagine what it would be like if some virtuoso actually played them at tempo. It would be furious...but I'm not sure how interesting they can be made into.
In my opinion, op.365 should be viewed as a relatively simple practice song compared to something like op.740. But still 1 of 3 is quite attractive.
@@stephanh8779 Isn't Op. 365 the most difficult of all Czerny etude books? I mean 740 is pretty advanced, but isn't this supposed to be even harder?
op 740 is way easier than the 365. if you listen to no 13 and others it is clear that 365 is the peak of cherry’s etudes, besides classical music school classify 740 as levels 6 and 7 and keep 365 for level 8 and baccalauréat
@@ritamirabawab6117 there are etudes even harder than those of Opus 365, such as Opus 364 (Grand Excercise), Opus 348 (Improvisatory Fantasy), Opus 82 (Grand Excercise in f minor), and others - visit cleador's channel. Not only are they harder, they are even more musical. Worth a look for any serious performer in my opinion. They're like the "Transcendental etudes" before the Transcendental etudes were a thing.
Czerny's are better
So are these exercises or pieces?
both
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 do you think they can be played in concert or they are reserved for practice only?
@@Santosificationable Czerny published this book with the name concertist school, I don't know why they changed it
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Hmm really? Wow where did you get that info? Do you think a performance of the whole book be interesting enough for a concert, like how Maltempo played through Alkan's op. 39?
@@Santosificationable There are books for sale from op. 365 on the Internet where the title is a concert market school especially mercadolibre.com of Argentina and one of my country Mexico but the seller does not answer me 😬😤 maybe he died because he was a big person
Good
This is listenable but if I had to listen to it 20 times, while playing it, I would want to blow my head off.
and why not blow your mind with the conventional repertoire of classical music?
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 What?
There is a reason other writers are a part of the conventional repertoire of classical music and Czerny isn't. His etudes are dispensable.
@@mantictac The only expendable thing I see is the entire repertoire on your channel, your comments and your way of thinking. so you better watch your words when you talk about Czerny (the most important piano repertoire that I create to the greatest pianists) if Czerny had not existed there would not be Liszt, Chopin, Thalberg, etc.
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Czerny definitely was a good composer when it counted (he made a good few interesting contributions to many forms of piano literature, like his teacher, Beethoven), but he spent most of his career writing studies that are so ordinary that they may as well have been generated by a computer. Look at this etude. It's almost exclusively comprised of a plain, undeveloped circle of fifths progression, harmonized in plain chords or octaves, with some clumsy, poorly voiced ending chords thrown into the mix. If Czerny hadn't written these etudes, pianists of the day could surely have quickly sketched something basic that honed the same skill, or improvised it.
Also, that's not true at all. Czerny introduced none of those 3 people to music. When he first met Chopin, he was an established, 18-year-old composer. I'd better watch my words? Why? Czerny did not invent the modern pianist, he was not the only pedagogue of the time.
Once I gave him a pretty average criticism, you threw a tantrum and went and disliked a video of mine, leaving an embarrassing comment. What's so wrong with my way of thinking? You don't see me doing that.
@@mantictac what nonsense are you talking ????? Seriously, it makes me a bit nauseous to answer you, you are not giving any argument to defend your criticism because there is not, also if you realize this is a midi recording and what is wrong with using a circle of fifths? that circle of fifths fits perfectly in this study, it is a study that expresses very beautiful things but surely if this study had been composed by Liszt, Alkan or Chopin you would have commented that it is quite good, so I will not waste my time with someone anymore that he lives wrong and that now he believes he has the authority to say that it is good or bad and even worse you think you have the level of master of harmony and counterpoint of the highest level to start saying that you are free to say what you think is right !! !! the only badly made and clumsy chords are those from Chopin's winter wind studio, that's a silly mass of sounds
And now each repetition 20 times, not just 2 times.. As the description says.
20 times Is only for study no in concert!
연습 중...
끝!!
@@임지현-m8l 들려주시죠
please upload all etudes.
+Czeyner La Mente Musical I will.
*참고
이것은 진짜 인템포가 아닙니다. 진짜 인템포는 ♩.=88이므로 1.5배속하시면 됩니다.
Was Czerny Liszt, before Liszt?
Clearly a major influence...
Well czerny was liszt's teacher
❣️
개선 왈츠
👍👍👍👍
잠시만요, 3/8에서 4분음표단위를 쓸 리는 없는데요
점4분음표=88이면 분당 528타건에 난이도도 다른 60들과 맞을 것 같아요
그럼 사실은 더빠르단 뜻인가요?
@@stephanh8779 그런 것 같아보이는데요
체가 체60은 없어서...
좋다
Hey buddy will you go up the other 30 etudes?
I would like to recommend you that some do not exaggerate in speed a clear example is study 18 is so much speed that can not be appreciated.
This one, no. 45, is in 64 bpm (the indicated marking is 88), I enjoy it more actually at 1.25x speed.
체르니 몇번 과정이에요?????
60번입니다
Khandoshkin "Down the river Volga"
Now do it again 20 times.
아시는분 가르쳐 주세요
체르니 60 책에서 45번 곡을 찾아보셔요.^^
Наступила эра К. ЧЕРНИ. Боже, как я не любила этюды вообще и Черни в частности, играла потому, что нужно было иметь в репертуаре. И теперь Черни моя любовь, ну и исполнители тоже...
И я тоже! Мне 45 лет, в школе их терпеть не могла. А сейчас учится дочка, и я для себя открыла заново Черни. Такие красивые этюды, стройные, с четким каркасом. Одно удовольствие и слушать, и исполнять, если с умом.
Даа, обожаю Черни ❤
Emuito bonito estou estudando
visite meu canal eu tenho muita música de Czerny
Ça à l’air passacaille de Haendel
Ohhhhh it sounds like Haydn abit but I think this song is way better
It sounds like Haydn especially if you have watched the harpsichord battle you know the melody
Poor man's Mazeppa hahaha
2분짜리 체르니?? 아 아건 못 치지 ㅋㅋ
I'm trying to play this 😥😎😎😎😎😎😇
me too! I'm playing the etude 15 and 45
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 How is etude 15 going? It's realy hard.. also, the original tempo of no.45 is faster than this one actually...
This is the original tempo ruclips.net/video/7mhZUShrAx4/видео.html
Liszt mazeppa? Hahaha
Poor man's Mazeppa hahaha
This Etude is more musical And Beatiful
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Este estudio tiene variaciones a la passacaglia de Händel, es lo único. Absurdo y monótono, fue muy exprimido por muchos compositores ya.
@@alejandrom.4680 vaya pedazo de ignorante que resultaste ser! Estás muy equivocado si crees que la armonía es infinita!!! Ya se usaron todas las combinaciones de acordes posibles en toda la música escrita así que no veo nada de malo en que muchos Compositores hayan escogido una progresión en especial! O me vas a decir alguna otra tontería? 🤔 yo supongo que vas decir algo que me va a matar de la risa 😂
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 Creo que nunca has escuchado composiciones vanguardistas..., y sobre los acordes, que no sean infinitos no argumenta que hayan utilizado la misma progresión muchísimas veces, sobre explotandola.
체르니 30보다 어렵네요 체르니 끝난 사람도 조금은 틀릴것같다
초절기교, 파가니니랑 난이도는 비슷하지만 전 이걸 연습할바엔 초절기교를 연습하겠습니다... ㅋㅋㅋ
@@hyj7240 그건 너무 오바한거고 ㅋㅋㅋ쇼팽 에튀드 딱 그정도 수준이라 봅니다.
체르니 60이 초절기교보다 어려운것은 모르겠지만 저곡보다는 마제파가 훨씬 어려워요 구성이라든가 길이 악보보는 측면에서도요
사실 저는 초절기교가 더 어려울 것 같아보이는데
뭐 난이도는 사람마다 다르지만 개인적으로 마제파가 더 어렵더라고요
@@Ok_chang esta pieza son solo 2 hojas y es muy difícil, mazeppa necesita 18 hojas para ser difícil
Мне показалось,что многие нынешние шлягеры- чистый плагиат?У Черни сворованный.
Это из-за золотой секвенции. Золотая секвенция и до Черни была. Просто ей не так сильно злоупотребляли как сейчас
난 피아노전공수준😎
The only decent etude I've heard in this whole set. These etudes are rather devoid of quality, even for Czerny.
The only decent study of chopin is 3 of op 10.
Czeyner La Mente Musical You're welcome to mention Czerny studies superior to audience and pianists' favorite such as no. 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12 from the op. 10 set, and no. 1, 5, 9, 11 from the op. 25 set.
@@Manx123 Chopin is Easy compared Op.365
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 That doesn't make it "better."
@@Manx123 to your taste? the chopin etudes are very boring, right now I'm playing the 27 and it's too boring! they are very inferior even to the etudes of Henselt! Czerny and Henselt win this battle, Chopin loses
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I don't like it. It's so boring and repetitive, typical czerny
Eres un Pianista mediocre y tocas música aburrida de Schumann y Chopin, dos Compositores mediocres y muy malos pianistas en su época