World of Warships- Minnesota First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- Hey guys, today I bring you guys the first impressions review for the new TX American Battleship Minnesota. Enjoy!
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Oooh.. So thats where all the burgers went.
Whenever i hear "Minnesota", all i can think of is the "This is my face after being outside in Minnesota" guy...
"I'm looking California. But, feeling Minnesota." - Soundgarden
I think the new USN BB have the role as the central map Battleship, like Flamus sometimes play his BBs. You have to be sure where you are going at beginning of the match so be in the centre is probably the best solution. This way you are save to participate in most of the battle. You have the range to reach everywhere so why not (I don't say you have to be close to the middle of the map tho).
But I could also be wrong with my way of thinking.
this sounds like a nightmare if your team has even one "I'm in a slow bb, I'm going to flank them" type players
You got it. Basically play like a yammy: a mostly-fixed artillery platform.
@@mercantile1803 And If this player happens to be on the Flank that steamrolls the enemy, good luck switching sides in time
Yes, yes, and yes again, I tell people all the time the slow US BB's must stay more or less in the middle of the map. If they go to a flank one of two things happen, the flank their on wins on their flank but then the slow BB is out of position and useless for the rest of the game., or two the flank their on loses and their too slow to retreat and they get focused down.
"You have to have impeccable map awareness." Welcome to the every day lives of cruisers.
The speed and reload would annoy the crap out of me (Again, cruiser player), but that dispersion, even at 27km looks LOVELY. BB-Sniper players will probably love these ships.
All these ships just look like someone looked at colorado in the wide putin filter and said that works
they turn to slow. why dont they let it beyblade like a colorado and reload like a colorado.
look up the tillman BBs
Players: Why did WG give this ship such a slow speed and slow reload?
WG: Don't you guys have work? Just auto cruise and shot a salvo then go to your work, finish your meetings, do some team buildings and after that go back to the game to shot your second salvo then adjust your navigation a bit. Rinse and repeat.
"Every damn thing pens this ship" after two Thunderer salvos doing 0 damage and 1 fire, because the entire side is torpedo protection...
That....is very impressive.
Yeah...That Thunderer was me. Quite a surprise, I must admit it was frustrating.
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It’s chonky, it eats pens from weird angles. Once people realize to not shoot it in the torp bulges, it’ll get chunked for ~9K from most BBs.
I wasn’t expecting this at all. A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
The 40 s reload time is not a problem. She has 12 guns. I mean ... firing 6 of them every 20 seconds is like firing a georgia with a sharnhosrt rate of fire (or a sharnhorst with 18 inches guns) ... I don't understand that obsession with many player to fire all the guns at once every single time.
Sea Lord....that opening music BLASTS my speakers lol.
If it’s as wide as it looked, it should have tons of secondaries and AA. It probably won’t, but it should.
Thats true damn
Yes, this should have 3 rows of dual 127/38's on each side.
It does though? That's kinda the whole gimmick..? Literally has good base AA and Defensive AA fire. And the wide sides are the extremely big torpedo protection which, if you shoto into that, does no damage at all (she also has good torpedo protection).
So it should, and it does.
@@dzello ya missed the secondaries bit homie
@@TheGuyfromValhalla They have secondaries. They just dont have good positions so they cant shoot. They focused more on AA.
Basically this alternate BB lines are for those that are hungry and wants to eat their favourite fast food while still gaming. you shoot one shell- take bites off your fast food for 20s and take 10s roughly for aim
Conqueror called, she wants her underwater citadel back
I would like to see this line be able to hold speed while maneuvering. A turn radius of 700m before the mod is on par with DDs and cruisers. With some torp spotting skills this could frustrate medium to long distance fire more than a little. I also think this line creates a sort of anti sniping meta. These ships are slow but they have reach and good dispersion. As they crawl forward the red snipers will have nowhere to go but to irrelevancy. I would not waste early volleys on a DD with this line. Volley is just too valuable. Getting focused early in this line is a good thing as it will give your teammates a more clear path towards the objective. Good concealment, slow reload and slow speed means you will be able to go silent when it is time to heal. Just an opinion at this point.
"You rarely leave the spawn" sounds to me like you tried but found out you could not get very far (23 knots) and it aint worth the effort anyway (reload is crap so no brawling).
Look at that draft. SHE'S SO DEEP. There's just as much battleship UNDER the water as above.
Also, that dispersion, holy shit. It's actually terrifying, your vertical dispersion looks TINY. Like a montana.
I played my first game against a MN last night... The guy just stayed in the back and sniped and easily went down as we moved closer. He did ok damage, but never moved out of a center position at the back of the map.
WG does know that April fool's is in April right?
🤣🤣🤣 If it only was a joke. WG should have created a Washington, New Jersey and Maine for T8-10 respectively, for the new BB line split, with Massachusetts', Georgia's and Ohio's secondaries respectively! Instead, we get these floating turds! 🤬 Needless to say, I am more than a little disappointed! 🇺🇸
Played against a Minnesota yesterday in my Bourgogne. It did manage to bounce my first AP rounds but man it burned to death quite nicely as it just couldn't get out of it's own way. With that reload against a ship with speed boost dodging its return fire I bet that captain enjoyed the engagement.
Considering that even in my Colorado/California in tier 9 games I still find myself ahead of most of my team I feel like its speed shouldn’t be too much of a issue.
The problem I see is said speed And the 40 second reload with the same guns as Montana only they do less dmg.
I think a 35 second reload would work better for the Minnesota.
The problem I'm finding with the ship, is not that she is incapable of running from enemy ships. Rather that she is incapable of chasing them down
she is pretty bad at kiting cuase she so super wide you will get nice hits on her rear super structure and deck, i kited another minnesota and there was no angle i could make that i dident take several thousends of damage, also front angle is wierd on it cuase so super wide in the front that you need to almost bow tank to get a bounch angle in
It appears WG is now applying power creep to their ships before they’ve even gone live. “That’ll be 30k doubloons for your new HP farm sir...”
Too many weaknesses on these new paper ships when compared to the rest of the BB meta - pass
Imagine if this thing was a shipgirl in Azur Lane
It would be a plus size model
She'd be *THICC*
Marcus Jones Stinks XTRA THICC
"anime intensifies."
Gib anime girl of kansas
E X T R A T H I C C
This is the definition of a perfect shipfu. I'll be able to play some weeb games on my phone while playing Minnesota.
hats off that you bought it to make content.. i respect that, but people buying into these new ships just make WG do more of this, hey want the new ships ? better pay up... or no new content for you..
Spreadsheet told WeeGee that everyone loves playing the Colorado...
I love Colorado and New Mexico. Maybe i am an abnormal player.
@@jayvee8502 yep
Hay i love the colorado, she be thicc where it matters.
@@jayvee8502 Fellow brother of the thicc cult :D
@@jayvee8502 i do too but these ships are worse than colorado.
I love brawling BBs and actually kinda enjoy Minnesota even though she's a sniper I have started to make her work even in so me brawls. Can't wait to unlock Vermont
It's been two years. Did you unlock the Vermont?
Thanks for another great review.
About the aa.
According to some reddit posts, there was a HUGE CV stealth nerf in this patch, so it doesn't have to be the Minnesota's great aa.
How does CV visibility affect other ship AA?
Teemu K it’s not visibility. Now returning CV planes eat full damage. So if you’re not careful you’re going to get deplaned quickly.
@@teemu3370 it's not about the visibility,
They nerfed multiple things;
Most important is that attack planes that peel of from squadron take now full dmg from surrounding aa, resulting often in loss of the whole squadron.
Here is a link to the post:
www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/j2ua29/psa_huge_undocumented_nerfs_to_cvs_across_the/?
Who is the best DD,Z-52 or Daring?I wish to do a top selection of DD tier 10 most competitive.Thanks!
I really like the West Virginia or Colorado play style. I was really afraid about the guns performance, but 40 second is not a tragedy when you can hit. Thank you for the review and awaiting Florida now.
I like her she's kinda a beast 35 sec reload
These ships aren't even finalized and they're already completely powercrept. I really don't understand the logic of having the same guns on the MT and IO but reloading them at 40 secs. There's literally no reason for it.
They need to give it the same reload as the Montana, 25 kt top speed (minimum) and an engine boost. Only then, will these ships be playable.
*Shikishima AP shell breaks through Minnesota hull and breaches Citadel*
Aww! It’s pregnant! *tries to convince itself it has no choice* We’re in a war, we’re in a war.
*Detonates*
- *Minnesota blows up* -
If anyone gets what that is a reference to, you get a digital cookie :P
I got it
i was looking forward to the US ships but after the nerfs/stats, i dont see any reason for them, but never the less, i got Minnesota on first chest -.-
@Ponfi you keep it with hull and range upgrade
11:39 Tbh, every BB with something like a superstructure can get those AP hits from Cruisers.
24 knots doesn't mean you CAN'T move, it means you NEED to move FROM THE START. Anyone who played through Colobado and wasn't an utter potato ought to have learned the relevant lessons back then.
Push towards the middle of map. Use islands to limit potential threats. With the decent range, you can fire just about ANYWHERE.
Plus you're potentially using your health and heals, which is PART OF YOUR JOB as a BB.
Trouble is WG gave this line a REDUCED heal compared with existing USN BB line (god knows why), which is bollocks. Plus the guns function more like Colobado when it comes to pen/drag etc, which is total bollocks.
Why people want to grind out a tier 8 and 9 Colobado with more guns so as to get a tier 10 version escapes me, however.
Meanwhile, anyone who sails back and forth near their spawn with these crap sigma guns and dreadful velocity and air drag making long range fire pretty much garbage ought not play BBs. Even if they have decent guns that's potato level shit.
If you want to sit back plinking away, play CAs.
issue with the guns is that theyre colorado guns, so its T7 pen which cant citadel any of the T9/T10 BBs
tbh Minnesota is prolly Vermont's width, its just the fat torpedo belt, I mean you can see the lines on the deck
I think the question is: Is there any reason to play this instead of the other tech tree BB, the Iowa? Tbh I don´t think so...
About the speed or lack of, WG could have added a Engine Boost.
Looking at Minnesota’s armour layout, at closer ranges I don’t think you can angle due to having massive cheeks of 38 mm armour
Vermont’s layout does not immediately tell me if will have the same problem
Yeah i play Minnesota and i have a hard time finding a good angle al the time in it just cuase the cheeks becomes like a broadside if you angle
The Kansas and Vermont looks to be better, Minnesota have a turning wall in the front
The Thicc bois are here!!!!
Also, where are the missions to get them? I cant find any of them
Doesn't the minnie still have iowa's DPM due to 33% more alpha and 33% more reload?
So Monty's alpha on Iowa's dpm isn't enough? On one of the best protected hulls in the game (potentially better than Vermont at that)?
I don't like this split in the slightest but the argument for reload and increasing dpm is not the hill I'd die on personally.
alright... sounds like a lot of "fun"
but imagine gameplay later on against subs
this will be a pain in the ass for future games
Nice immune armor to all small guns. GJ WG. Balanzzz
I don't play wows, is this replacing the Iowa in the tech tree?
@1tiercel Oh I see, thanks for the info
You can't angle the Minnesota because it approximates a circle. You can't angle a circle. It'll always have a flat side towards you.
Will the Florida be available for full purchase?
I’m genuinely excited for the Florida. T7 NC Hull with 12 14 inch guns?? Sign me up (I loved the NC)
Only 22 salvo you can shoot within 15 mins... (which is entire game)
All the shots behind the target making me wince.
Hi, would you recomand to Montana line or the Yamato line, actualy i wanted the yamato but last days i get optimus prime and megatron as captains, i give up on germans cose am bad brawler, but thinking to start to unlocking USA line to get montana cose working on autobot event...
Montana and Iowa have 406/50 Minnesota has 406/45. I do like the dispersion of the Minny and the rudder shift, but man that thing is slow and the armor is a bit too thin.
**Moto Moto wants you know your location**
When California hits the gym
Can you do the Florida?
the million dollar question, how does it compare to the other T9 BB's would you choose it over any of them, is it better/more fun than any of the other T-9 BB's, cuz if the answer is no why would I play it.
What do you need to do to get a citadel?!?!😔
I have the Georgia. From what you've shown, Minnesota plays pretty much the same way. 😂😂😂
Except the Georgia can do 40 knots 😜
With speed boost
@@Udeus5 Details!
What makes the 23 knot top speed even more stupid is the ship design lineage these ships are supposed to represent (1922 South Dakota and on) was supposed to have a 25 knot top speed. When designing the 1922 South Dakota class the US had realized after operating with the RN during WWI that their 21 knot standards were a liability as everyone else's BBs were faster.
There gonna release a premium tier 8 9 10 with a focus on 2nd batteries.
well they kind of did that with the Massachusetts-Georgia-Ohio
Well, Sean doesn't know WOWS very well. Massa tier 8, Georgia tier 9, Ohio tier 10. All 3 are exactly what you described and into the game already.
@@dzello I have the mass, mass b and the Georgia. I'm working on the Ohio now. What else could they do with these ships. They already have the torpedo protection. Just had the super heal and extended the 2nd.
@@dolan660 What...? Those ships dont have good secondaries. Even with longer secondary range, theyd be awful (if I recall, they had like 2 turrets that can shoot forward lmao on the Mineso).
They have big guns, good AA and good torpedo protection (which doubles as armor because shooting torpedo protection deals no damage).
The current premium line is the secondary line already.
@@dzello thats what they do with premiums adjust their stats to make them work.
Wasn't Admiral Halsey a must on this ship?
Odd, the Wargaming Wiki lists the Minnesota as having 13,500 AP damage, indicating the Mark 8 Superheavy shells.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the USS THICC BOI!
It's a New Mexico that will get uptiered to T10 every battle. Slow and long reload equals not fun. High speed/short reload equals fun.
"torpedo bulge deck" How very American lol
War gaming should have make this a secondary gun ship or how can it fight DD ?
All I can think is that Moto Moto likes you
You might need to edit your blurb. Minnesota is T9, not TX.
He knows that, he just says most of it's games will be in tier X.
Wait, was Minnesota’s armor buffed? Last I heard, those 38mm sections were just 32mm
Ye
This ship is for us guys that like are girls broad in the beam! Get some.
Wife caught me looking at new gaming chairs and asked why, as I had just got one. I pointed out the footrest. Her words, What the fuck do you need a footrest for!! I clicked back to the game and pointed to the RELOAD TIME!! She laughed and walked away!!!!! LMAO
Why do you take PM on every single build? PT is soooo much more useful on just about every cruiser and BB.
This event is a joke...
If Minn wont be your 1st pack in chain , dont even bother with buying packs.
1500 imaginary points you can get jack shit with, and 10 flags is not wort 1k doubloons -.-
2nd pack here but dont do it i cant recommend this ship at all
I would've liked much more if you, instead of I, could've just opened the first random bundle and boom, the Minnesota....
Oh lawd he coming... My bad thought this was the chonky cat fb group
2:00 happy SAP noise imagine those against italian CA and BB
not so happy noses, since Torpdeo bulges absorb both HE and SAP.
unless you get superstucture/deck hits it will end in 0dmg pens.
in video you can see it completly absorbing 8 HE shells from Thunderer
@@arczer2519 rly didn't know ty
Guns should have same reload time as Colorado
Its a city on water.
This line split's development disappointed me significantly. I'm not spending real money or doubloons on this dud of an event.
Unlucky for you because if you did, you could get a lot of coal.
@@dzello I would have to spend hundreds of dollars worth of Doubloons to get to those Token bundles that have the Coal. It's not worth it.
@@pdorn1 YOLO
You could buy Florida in the shop for $40
40 Seconds is still 3x16 Inch Shells every 10 seconds, theoretically the same as other BBs at tier9... But yeah in practice she needs a buff to 35-36 something like that
... Always watch the whole video before you comment! :D you literally said the same thing, my opinions have been made redundant Q.Q
Two more things:
1) Halsey has the super expert loader right? That might be good in these ships :)
2) German 150mm secondaries have exactly 38mm penetration. Will that work on the american chungus ships or would you need 39mm pen?
Thing is, if you just get same dpm as an Iowa, why would you want the 23 knot ship over the 33 knot one?
Yeah, you cant compare her to other ships because she sacrifices so much in speed.
@@Evangeline.F to grind the 12x18" Vermount
Well this thicc boi wouldn't have been able to fit through the Panama canal...
Conqueror and Thunderer = Less Detection than Hindenburg... makes sense, and if Pommern gets 12 15inch guns that cant land 3 shells at 13km (with 33 sec reload) anything less than 40 second Reload for 12 16inch guns that can land 50% of shells at 23km (and gets to overmatch 27mm) would be unacceptable.
0:30.... that's what she said!
There is an easy fix for that 40 sec reload.
-50k HP BOOM faster reload hahaha
3 weeks later, after notser's had some time with it. "Yeah, rudder shift plus accuracy. play it like a mid-ranged support CA/BC" proceeds to get 100k+ dmg in it almost every match. LOL
Give it 35 sek reload :/
YES! I mean its kinda retarded that NC, Iowa AND the Montana (same FUCKING FIREPOWER) all have 30 sec reloads, and these things get 40 secs.
@@jaywerner8415 it has older guns. Kinda makes sense
Do you want 12 of those 457mm guns (kansas) to smash you. Its (kansas) basically a yamato/kremlin with another triple gun. Even kremlin gets 30 ish seconds reload.
If you say that the lower tier ones needs lower reload then that makes a bit more sense but kansas needs to be balanced with 40 ish reload
Justin Chen you mean Vermont not Kansas
@@juicemeister1984 you would be correct. I can understand 12 457s having 40 sec reloads (kremlin has.....wtf how does kremlin get away with 33 sec RELOAD AND 30sec turret turn speed! RUSSIAN BIAS!) but while I understand the math, it really should be 35 seconds for that one extra turret.
Anyone know the real story about USS Minnesota? I can’t find any info about it but I’m guessing it’s semi-fictional?
Based off of the Tillmans (slightly)
It’s a modernized post-Pearl Harbor 1920 South Dakota-class, so this ship is actually not imaginary at all, being one of the almost-real paper ships. Kansas (T8) is the pre-modernization version. Vermont (T10) is the Tillman-derives variant.
honestly, I've been having loads of fun in these ships, sure they handle about as well as an elephant in a slip 'n slide but once you get those guns trained on something it all becomes worth it
*T H I C C*
Part of me wants to play these for the memes but the stronger part of me doesn’t want to get anywhere near these DOA ships with a 10ft pole.
Minnesota is my home state so I've gotta get her but I don't like how big & slow she is.
I want Florida first impression
Still waiting for my home state, Michigan
Literally just damage harvesting islands. Every time I see one of these new ships in a match, it gets focused almost immediately.
These ships scare me.... and depress me as well.
I git it in first drop cost me only 1000 gold to get this ship .ship is pretty good guns are quite good
Shut up
USS Thic Boi and USS Bigger California