5 Things You Didn't Know About Telecaster Pickups

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @joea9608
    @joea9608 Месяц назад +22

    On a Tele I set the neck pickup height to where it needs to be & then just adjust the height of the bridge pickup so it sounds good to me when both pickups are on... It's worked for me for more decades than I want to admit. lol

  • @Madakalim
    @Madakalim 10 дней назад +2

    I like the old saying "After you've had everything else, you buy a Tele" it was true for me!

  • @davebarone506
    @davebarone506 Месяц назад +7

    That's interesting about the early days and how the neck was considered a bass pickup, I remember trying out a new roadworn Tele, and the shop owner pointed out that it was made to vintage specs, so the neck pickup will be very muddy, but it comes with a different capacitor to make it brighter. That always stuck in my head as being odd, I thought maybe a way to sugarcoat a defect, but now what you're saying makes sense. Very enlightening

  • @brianwilcox2543
    @brianwilcox2543 Месяц назад +3

    I love hearing this tech stuff & how it evolved over the history of the istruments.

  • @solarismoon3046
    @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +3

    I already knew all of this. "The Fender Telecaster Book" by A.R. Duccasoir is a pretty good read. However there are a few missing details in both of the Stratocaster and Telecaster books it is a highly detail and authoritative source for information of vintage Fender guitars. The only other thing that I'm sure you already know is that Fender used the lap steel pickups since they were already available and a good usable pickup. Bright with a strong response and volume they made for the perfect guinea pig for Leo Fender to make a whole new breed of guitar. No machining or reworking required as they already had the machines to produce these. The only thing that they changed was the bottom plate for the pickup so that it could be adjusted three ways for bass and treble response. Otherwise everything you said here is true. Very complete and up to date with your information. Thank you for sharing this with the rest of us to enjoy.

  • @susieroberts8175
    @susieroberts8175 9 дней назад

    I have a '58 and a '76. They're quite different sounds and different necks. Love the background info ... thanks ☺

  • @RideAcrossTheRiver
    @RideAcrossTheRiver Месяц назад +3

    I have a nice used ash Tele that I got through my local store. Previous owner kept the gargly V-Mod I neck pickup and put in a 21k ice-picky Duncan Hot Rails bridge pickup ... and oh yeah, they were out-of-phase. THEN there was the horrible screwup to the Duncan's wiring! I pulled out both pickups, happily sold them both, and wired in an old Duncan Hot Rhythm neck and a new Vintage Stack bridge.

  • @derekclacton
    @derekclacton Месяц назад +12

    The traditional Tele SS pickup format is an enduring classic and I can’t think of any other guitar that has adapted itself better to so many alternative pickup configurations - despite it being one of the earliest electric guitar designs, the Telecaster is something very special.

    • @DylanTalksTone
      @DylanTalksTone  Месяц назад +1

      The Les Paul and the Strat are just as enduring

    • @slinkytreekreeper
      @slinkytreekreeper Месяц назад

      @@DylanTalksTone and a lot less fugly

    • @derekclacton
      @derekclacton Месяц назад +3

      @@DylanTalksTone They are indeed but they have not proven to lend themselves to such a wide variety of pickup configurations.

    • @hankhill7494
      @hankhill7494 Месяц назад +8

      ​@slinkytreekreeper 🤨 It may be simple in design but the Tele is nowhere near "fugly". I would consider most B.C Riches & Deans as fugly. But I remember back when I was stil an immature delinquent, Telecasters seemed like boring grandpa guitars. Boy was I wrong 😂

    • @7171jay
      @7171jay Месяц назад +1

      @derekc. Maybe you are not aware of HSS and HSH Strats, or Strats with lipstick pickups or that Les Paul's originally were made with single coil P90 pickups before PAF humbuckers were even invented, some models came with mini-humbuckers or that there are even Gibson style guitars with Tele pickups in them.
      Telecasters are certainly not the only guitar to be adapted to pickups other than the originals they were designed with.
      I'd say Fender style guitars are more likely to be mod platforms than Gibsons so you see more people putting different pickups into Teles or Strats than Les Paul type guitars. This doesn't mean that a Tele body is any more versatile at working with different pickup types than other guitar bodies.
      Strats are the easiest to adapt to different pickups even more so than Teles but any pickup will "work" with whatever body style of guitar really.

  • @shadowminister4090
    @shadowminister4090 Месяц назад +3

    Dylan, thank you for the history and techy info.

  • @AlJohnsGuitar
    @AlJohnsGuitar 11 дней назад

    Dude, your craftsmanship is astounding. Those pickups look AWESOME.

  • @PeteEllson5656
    @PeteEllson5656 Месяц назад +2

    Great video. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.

  • @satanbane
    @satanbane Месяц назад +2

    Thank you! Fascinating information, and nice-looking work, too.

  • @freemoney3723
    @freemoney3723 Месяц назад +2

    Great info, liked how you explained it.

  • @mickhanson7574
    @mickhanson7574 Месяц назад +1

    As an owner of 3 Teles I loved and really appreciated the information here. Thank you!

  • @richardpierce7819
    @richardpierce7819 Месяц назад +3

    I have a really cool Tele , its a reclaimed Red Wood body with a humbucker on the neck and a single coil on the bridge. The cool thing is it has a 5 way switch which really expands the tonal capibilities.

  • @sdkee
    @sdkee 13 дней назад +1

    The ferrous base plate will both strengthen the total amount of field the strings experience (relatively small factor) but will also increase the range of the string length that is sensed. This has an effect on the relative gain of the fundamental vs the harmonics and is one of the reasons you can't ever get a single coil to sound like a humbucker even when matching the resonance frequency. They are sending different parts of the string with different weights.

  • @chrishowitt9654
    @chrishowitt9654 Месяц назад +1

    Cool stuff, I recently built a cheap Tele kit I bought from a guy on marketplace. Had it sitting in the shed for ages and decided to throw it together. I have no idea what cheap pickups are in it but the thing is an awesome player and sounds great. My original plan was to swap out the pickups if it played well and stayed in tune, well it does both of those things and I even love the pickups, I did bypass the tone control for the neck and put a treble bleed in it though.

  • @lesbois53
    @lesbois53 12 дней назад

    Never got on with my Tele until I fitted Joe Bardens. Job done! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @swisherguitars
    @swisherguitars Месяц назад +1

    Thanks Dylan, I learned something new today.

  • @Glicksman1
    @Glicksman1 11 дней назад

    I just want to add that the neck pickup in my '52 Tele, untouched and all original with the cover sounds wonderful, clear and bright, and has a unique voice that I go to often. Leo got it right from the get go if my guitar is any example.

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 Месяц назад +2

    I knew some of that information, but incompletely and not in connected to the other parts. That was really interesting, informative, and a cool way to do some welcome Myth busting. I hope you do more videos like this in the future. The actual history is way better and useful. Thanks 👍

  • @stepvanjoe3469
    @stepvanjoe3469 Месяц назад

    Good video Dylan primarily my go-to is a Telecaster nice to learn a little about its parts evolution

  • @petestrunk6473
    @petestrunk6473 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the great video Dylan, keep up the great work.

  • @steveg.3022
    @steveg.3022 18 дней назад

    Dig the detail, both technical and historical. I’m an electrical engineer and it all makes sense to me. I’m not as good of a guitar player, but that part makes sense to me, also. T/Y

  • @JoseSalas-wn7im
    @JoseSalas-wn7im Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for another great video.

  • @aaronstonebeat
    @aaronstonebeat Месяц назад +1

    Is that a Peavey Backstage Plus in the background? I bought one in the eighties. It needs some TLC every now and then, but it still works 🙂

  • @stevekirkby6570
    @stevekirkby6570 Месяц назад +1

    Really interesting, thanks!

  • @thesjkexperience
    @thesjkexperience Месяц назад +1

    I play an Esquire so much, that I get frightened and confused by more than 5 holes in the pickguard 🎉😊❤

  • @thetonycooper
    @thetonycooper Месяц назад

    Awesome. Great vid. Thank you!

  • @AnthonyTyson-ym5gs
    @AnthonyTyson-ym5gs Месяц назад

    Why am I drooling over your pickups. Keep on pickin' Cowkidz

    • @Great-Documentaries
      @Great-Documentaries 29 дней назад +2

      Because you don't know any better. He doesn't do anything any different than the Chinese factories to push out alnico single coils and humbuckers. But do pay extra if you disagree. 🤡

  • @murpsman
    @murpsman Месяц назад

    Seymour-Duncan makes a vintage 1950 Fender laptop pickup in their Antiquity series I put one in a Micawber clone guitar I built for a friend.

  • @shanewalton8888
    @shanewalton8888 Месяц назад +6

    16:09 "It would introduce unwanted Eddie currents". Yes, the last thing I want when I play a telecaster is to sound like Van Halen. jk

    • @mykhedelic6471
      @mykhedelic6471 Месяц назад +1

      I actually have a red Tele with a maple board that I gave the Eddie design treatment to. It slays.

  • @marvinthemartian6788
    @marvinthemartian6788 Месяц назад

    Great video. Didn’t know a lot of this

  • @sicilianmammalian
    @sicilianmammalian Месяц назад

    Looking to buy my firs telecaster, having a hard time deciding between vintage and contemporary

  • @jerryjaystone9444
    @jerryjaystone9444 Месяц назад

    Love this presentation, thank you. I did not know about the original being direct mount. And now I want to build a bass tone channel. Somehow.
    Do you make an add in kit like that?

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад

      The original Tele wiring was made for flipping the switch to the neck position to get the bassy tone that it made at that time. You need a 15k resistor for it. This is wired directly to the switch itself - not the volume pot. There are wiring diagrams that you can get to wire this with the post '52 wiring before 1965 when they made it the the volume and tone control configuration of today. It only allows for bridge with tone control in position 1, neck with tone control in middle position number 2, and finally position number 3 with neck with volume control only, bassy capacitor and no tone control. The volume works through the entire circuit as normal.

  • @MattMorgans
    @MattMorgans Месяц назад +1

    I found DiMarzio true velvets with four way switching to be my happy place😊

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver Месяц назад

      I put a True Velvet in my Strat's bridge and swapped the stock Fender bridge to the neck. Boy does that make a big-sounding Strat!

  • @allenbishop880
    @allenbishop880 Месяц назад

    Thanks, great video

  • @sassycat
    @sassycat Месяц назад

    Very informative, thanks!

  • @paulgraumann2774
    @paulgraumann2774 Месяц назад +2

    You forgot the part about the copper plating allowing the soldering of the gtound lead of PU winding to the plate to allow not only a modicum of shielding but also the recently WIDELY FORGOTTON benefit of providing a string to bridge saddle ground so a separate wire like on strats etc.not needed. The path from PU ground THRU the,PU screws all 3 to bridge plate is great as no seperate string ground were needed! In recent decade seen many more telecasters especially from repair gurus with this mod. For a long video that presumes to explain everything tele I find it amazing that this UNIQUE Tele property goes missing.
    Also many vintage teles had bad problem with neck PU feedback squeel.
    Many thought this was because of steel plate would contribute to loose PU wires loosly wound and not wax dipped would vibrate with resonate HZ and because strat PU s mounted on plastic that dampened vibration etc.did not happen to them. You also dont mention this tele snafu. which was quite serious.

    • @DylanTalksTone
      @DylanTalksTone  Месяц назад +1

      Except that most of what you said is not really relevant…. The Strat was an improvement

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +2

      Well I hate to tell you but you're wrong about the microphonic squeal as they were all wax potted. This was done for that very reason. Especially the neck pickups had to be wax potted because the winds were so much smaller there was no room for it to seal the coil wire to prevent damage. The encapsulated cover was to eliminate or reduce unwanted 60 cycle hum from signs, lamps, and other electrical interference. The same with the bridge cover. They were both designed for this very reason. The only thing is that the shielding effect was very minimal at best. But with modern amplifiers much of this is not necessary.

    • @DylanTalksTone
      @DylanTalksTone  Месяц назад +1

      Couple things…. I didn’t mention micro phonics because no one really miss-understands this … the code was “5 things you may not have known”…. As far as the windings being so tight they can’t be properly wax potted, that’s just straight wrong. I can tell you, having made almost 15,000 puckups, small uncovered coils with 43 gauge wire wax just fine. Third “modern amplifiers” have nothing to do with EMI that causes 60 cycle hum. That still comes over the air just like it did in the 50s. …..

  • @daryllossing1340
    @daryllossing1340 11 дней назад

    Nice video!

  • @Glicksman1
    @Glicksman1 Месяц назад +1

    The Tele is the only Fender guitar designed with two different pickups. While the bridge pickup is the popular "star", that neck pickup is magic.

    • @Great-Documentaries
      @Great-Documentaries 29 дней назад +3

      True. And Dylan removes that magic with his neck pickups by trying to make them more Strat like and "less muddy." Which is why you will never see a jazz player using one of his neck pickups.

  • @johnCjr4671
    @johnCjr4671 Месяц назад +2

    I have a noisy Tele Bridge pickup, a lot of buzzing with volume and treble tone turned up ?, I want the tele twang but hate the buzzing kind of OCD like that , If I touch any metal it goes quiet and The Neck by itself is quiet ? Any thoughts , Single Coil Humbuckers ?

    • @leftyo9589
      @leftyo9589 Месяц назад +5

      if you touch metal and the buzz goes away, check your grounds.

  • @roberthastings708
    @roberthastings708 Месяц назад +1

    Hello Dylan and friends.

  • @sdkee
    @sdkee 13 дней назад

    The insulation thickness won't change the inductance for a given number of turns much. It will change the inductance per volume of bobbin because it changes the number of turns to fill that volume. And it will change the CAPACITANCE in a big way. If you half the capacitance and don't change the inductance, the unloaded resonance frequency increases by 41%. Resonance frequency with a guitar cable will be changed a bit less.

  • @gnarleeeee
    @gnarleeeee Месяц назад

    Do you know anything about Vevet Hammer’s TBX played by Clarence white?

  • @shanewalton8888
    @shanewalton8888 Месяц назад +1

    15:23 "I don't want to say it strengthens the magnetic field but it makes the magnetic field stronger" lol

  • @poodleguiderpeyes7388
    @poodleguiderpeyes7388 Месяц назад

    Just curious, Dylan, what's the difference in sound between yourTele pickups and the Fender Am Pro 2 Tele pickups?
    What is Fender doing wrong? Thanks for your answer.

  • @TheF1shh
    @TheF1shh Месяц назад +1

    Could I order a strat and tele baseplate from you to do some tinkering?

    • @murpsman
      @murpsman Месяц назад +1

      Lindy Fralin sells metal baseplates for Strat bridge pickups.

  • @kwiatos3
    @kwiatos3 28 дней назад

    I've got big problem with my tele. I've bought fender gen IV noiseless pickups. I've install them and something was wrong. The neck position sound almost the same as middle. I've check everything, replace switch with new fender switch. Both pickups should be 10,4-10,8k. My bridge pickup is ok and is 10,7, but neck is 9,5 after installation. Before it has 10,7. I've checked everything with mutlimeter and there is nowhere short circut on guitar. Potentiometers are ok. checked with multimeter. Bridge pickup is 10,8 so it is ok but when I unsolder the bridge pickup then the neck pickup is 10,7 and sound absolutly incredible. I have no more idea where is the problem? I've even put isolating tape on pickups chambers to avoid any short circut. When I solder the bridge pickup and the switch is on neck position - neck pickup is 9,5. Why?? Bridge in that position should not be in electric circut of guitar. Help!!!

  • @MuscleCarLover
    @MuscleCarLover Месяц назад

    Does the existence of tone control rob some output from the neck pickup? In most Teles that I hear, the neck pickup has a weak output and sort of just becomes inaudible from time to time, but when I hear one that doesn't have a tone control for the neck, it sounded louder and closer in output to a Strat's neck pickup. I'm just curious if that's placebo or an actual downside to the later wiring setup

  • @thomkopal1740
    @thomkopal1740 Месяц назад

    What sonic qualities are “balanced” by choosing 43 Vs 42 gauge wire? Is this a tonal balance? Or a balance in output? Can you please provide some more detail? Thanks!

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +1

      Let me fill in the gaps that are left here. 42 gauge wire allows for more bass and less treble output. The diameter of wire determines its output. What this means is that the larger the wire number the smaller it is. The smaller the number the larger it is. This allows less wire winds around the magnetic poles which reduces output. The slightly thinner wire allows less turns but with higher output as it goes around the magnet. Meaning that the power is increased with more winds but less mass so that you get better midrange, treble, and over all bass response from your pickup without as many winds as it would with a thicker 52 gauge wire. The thicker wire takes up more space and it takes more winds to make the output stronger whereas a thinner wire does the exact opposite. The more winds makes for more power output but without needing so much wire to do it. As mass increases it increases your volume and response levels. But thinner wire allows you to do this without using all the wire required as a thicker number 42 gauge wire would. I hope this makes it a little clearer.

  • @BOSSenjoyer
    @BOSSenjoyer Месяц назад

    Should I go out of my way putting a baseplate on a Deluxe Drive alnico 3 single coil 15.2k? You think I should try 330k pots and .033uF? Going for super hotrodded vintage not contemporary Tele sound.
    It has flat poles and polysol coated wire with the cotton string for nerd specs lol

    • @Great-Documentaries
      @Great-Documentaries 29 дней назад +3

      Practice more and worry about pickups (that no superstars would ever consider using) less.

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer 29 дней назад

      @@Great-Documentaries Get a life and a "superstar" gig lol

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer 29 дней назад

      Dude instantly liked his own comment. Sad.

    • @BOSSenjoyer
      @BOSSenjoyer 29 дней назад

      @@Great-Documentaries Please respond. You wasted 5 minutes of my life with your cringe fantasy world non-answer so at least make me laugh for 5 minutes.

    • @davidcollin1436
      @davidcollin1436 8 дней назад

      .033s make muff, .022 and open 3 way mini switch used in a split coil '58 Gretsch 6121

  • @sambirch6784
    @sambirch6784 Месяц назад +2

    I've tried many different Tele pickups over the years but a useful pickup to know about is the Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound Tele neck pickup. If you want a humbucker style tone but don't want to change how your Tele looks or you don't want to make alterations to your Tele to fit a full-size humbucker try one of these pickups. They look like a standard Tele neck pickup but under the cover they've got bigger pole pieces and they sound noticeably bigger than the standard pickup.

  • @richardclark.
    @richardclark. Месяц назад +1

    Nikolai Tesla was weeks away from patenting a way to slow current as it moved thru pickup wires. This would have enabled Leo to use the larger wire with the same effect. Teslas work was destroyed when Edison took over the early recording industry. Edisons accusations that Tesla threatened the electricity infrastructure also had far reaching consequences to the music industry that most are not aware of.

  • @RickMason-yj7pv
    @RickMason-yj7pv 9 дней назад

    Bought a Tele in75. Gigged that night. Traded it in on Flying V next day. What a piece of crap. But my 45 year old AS Strat is a charm.

  • @Michael-fw6mz
    @Michael-fw6mz 27 дней назад

    Dude i love how you explain things... For the "tones".... LMFAO.... seriously tho, i could listen to ya explain guitar parts and design and why, all day long

  • @marks2254
    @marks2254 Месяц назад

    I didn’t know any of that, thanks. The other thing I’d like to know is what the interference caused by a copper base plate sounds like. I’m betting you know.

  • @Steinstra-vj7wl
    @Steinstra-vj7wl Месяц назад

    This probably a stupid question, but what would a steel baseplate do under a humbucker - also when the humbucker is split ?

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +1

      I've already tried that before. I has absolutely no effect whatsoever on the sound of humbucking or single coil pickups.

  • @PatrickGeneLeBlancHardy
    @PatrickGeneLeBlancHardy Месяц назад

    Thanks For Sharing 🧠🎸🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions Месяц назад +3

    'Oll yorr base (plate ) are belong to us!!!'

  • @greyowl9295
    @greyowl9295 Месяц назад

    hi, what's your opinion on CuNiFe pickups ????

  • @williambartholomew5680
    @williambartholomew5680 Месяц назад

    Huge popular misconception is that the bridge pickup's plate makes the magnetic field stronger, scientifically that's impossible. It makes the magnetic field larger BUT some amount weaker

  • @glenndavis479
    @glenndavis479 Месяц назад

    " Technically " the copper plating would still create " Some " difference so is there a reason why you couldn't use stainless steal to avoid the corrosion issue normal steal is subjected to.

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +2

      That copper plate is so thin that the effect is completely negligible. The effect is not sonically noticeable from any other guitar pickup. Stainless steel would not be able to hold the solder ground. Plus stainless steel would be so expensive. And stainless steel wasn't a generally used or accepted product until the seventies and therefore unavailable at the time.

    • @glenndavis479
      @glenndavis479 Месяц назад

      @@solarismoon3046 Thanks for that mate...I guess it's true you can learn something new or old , which ever way you look at it by just asking questions. Cheers.

  • @Tony_Leonardi.
    @Tony_Leonardi. Месяц назад

    Fun video

  • @erestube
    @erestube 26 дней назад

    Knew none of it. I just love Telecasters. Consider me educated!

  • @Dzamora612
    @Dzamora612 Месяц назад +1

    For “the toans ” has to be the greatest myth on guitar building

  • @davidkornblatt851
    @davidkornblatt851 Месяц назад +2

    ? What about simply putting a STRAT pickup in the neck???

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver Месяц назад

      I guess Leo never thought of that.

    • @solarismoon3046
      @solarismoon3046 Месяц назад +3

      Um, that neck pickup IS a Strat pickup - before the Strat was ever invented.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver Месяц назад

      @@solarismoon3046 Do Strat pickups ever have metal bases, though?

    • @davidkornblatt851
      @davidkornblatt851 Месяц назад

      @@solarismoon3046 then David Gilmours Tele must be wrong

  • @stanesposito2664
    @stanesposito2664 Месяц назад

    👍

  • @JeffV
    @JeffV 26 дней назад

    Fun fact also there's more airplanes in the ocean than boats in the sky.

  • @RyanBenis88
    @RyanBenis88 18 дней назад

    Hello

  • @gordocojones
    @gordocojones Месяц назад +1

    I’m simple minded. I use the bridge pup to rock or for sparkly clean.
    I use the neck for what I like to call the “stale beer and regret” tone.

  • @greyowl9295
    @greyowl9295 Месяц назад

    howdy-hi, dude I hope u answer me question,