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Yes. ANd because he was decent and thoughtful enough to keep it to himself modern gays and liberals say "he hated himself". Even though there is ZERO evidence of that.
@@dustylong Darth has a problem with gay people. To him, they should keep quiet about their gay partners and not mention what they did on the weekend. It's all OK if you don't mention the word 'gay' or say you are gay. Sort of 1950s mentality in the 21st century. Strange.
It is sad many men from that era until the present day were forced to conceal who and how they loved. Great actors/actresses always leave this world many gifts within their professional works. The majority will not careless about who and how they loved simply hope that they found love along with eternal peace
as much as to conceal who they lust too. Worst if they went to the public bathroom they risk being caught. This happened with John Gielgud when he was younger. He was on the stage. It was silenced.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt a great actor/actress is simply that. Nothing less or more who and how they love is redundant. It's the legacy of their work that lives on IMHO
@@michaelmcgee8543 yes they were forced to take many risks including facing prison until the late sixties. Seems like a world away from today's more open society. Seems very backward thinking and unbecoming of the world we now live in. In the same way that the sixties saw the rise of the civil rights movements sixty years ago. I'm sure there was a lot of bigotry and hate in the world that we continue to remove generation by generation
Being self-loathing is not a surprise. He was raised in a society that viewed homosexuality as wrong. Like Rock Hudson, he feared that he would hurt his acting career, just like Anthony Perkins did . They put their acting first before their sex life . This is typical of all actors. Their art comes first before anything else, including morality and politics.
@michaelmcgee8543 Well, I think that was nicely stated and so fairly. What I wonder about tho is how soon or not our fellow humanity will come to understand and accept the ancient multifariously demonstrated FACT, that Mother Nature implants such dual amorous 'capacity' into her primate males? WHEN is this nonsense of torturous, willful madness going to end? From out of psychology's realm the key definition of apparent contention is . . . > polymorphous-sexual < Meaning that, Nature as arranged for we males to possesses the innate capacity to exchange love and attraction to-and-for gender opposites or S-A-M-E-S ! What Nature does has purpose, unlike way too much of what we think, come to believe and attempt. Now, as-to just what such a purpose might be, I'll leave to all of you as wondering. (It would not require too much brain power nor observing to divine, for more rationally-configured inquiring minds. Give it a go!) The hard cases on themselves, all around them as well as without are the MYSTICS, which types cannot be moved by reason nor demonstration, and thus their nearly insuperable hardness of opinionation, regarding the subject. With these -- "Houston! We've got a problem!!!" For a novel and delightful change, let's all get smart go forward, and prosper.
A rather unflattering account of someone who appears to have been quite complicated and unpleasant- possibly due to his unstable upbringing. He was a good actor, despite this.
Privacy vs A personal agendas. Why must we pry ? Why do we judge from ignorance in curiosity, which only leads to stones being thrown by jealously and failed attempts. Alex Guinness was a phenomenal Actor. And that's all that needs to be said.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt they were not gay they will bisexual. Kevin Spacey is gay and quite rightly it was found not guilty in the sexual allegation cases recently in London. Sometimes you people do not want to know the facts
Always so admired the chap. If forced to choose which of his roles I like best, it would be as the general in Dr. Zhivago. As with all past-master actors, he was unique.
So what? He had a private life which, unlike in the movies, may not have been perfectly happy. He once bumped into James Dean who was showing off his new Porsche. Guinness had a sudden awful feeling and said to Dean “if you drive that car it will kill you”.
Just ditching the dirt! Kenneth Williams was rather petty in his diaries. I never heard of Alec in a court case because of homosexuality. I heard he was partly homosexual. It's possible his audience would have exonerated & applauded him as they did Gielgud in similar circumstances. Why pigeonhole people? As Bogarde is supposed to have said "I'm not going to spell it out for people!"
It's 2023. Most people couldn't care less if someone was/is gay, bisexual, or whatever. Personally, I blame a lot of religions for the persecution and prejudices. On a sidenote, homosexuality even occurs within the animal kingdom such as Bonobos, Albatrosses, Penguins, and the rest. It's normal behaviour. I know your titles are always a bit 'click-baity' but I think most of us are over this sort of thing. Perhaps I'm wrong, and often am.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt Sorry, but I'm not 'one' but have a family member who is. Nobody pushed anything on anyone. I suggest changing your 'sole' news source you're currently using. Edit: Joined Jun 20, 2023 You're just another troll account. I shouldn't have bothered.
Weird photo....Guinness couldn't drive ! He always said he couldn't drive. Anyway, it was known how many ''gorgeous looking and tough young men' he chose as his chauffeurs !
Does it matter? He was a great actor who, outside of his professional career, had a fluid relationship with truth in general, let alone his sexuality. All great actors are great liars and he really was great. The audience's relationship with them should be confined to what they see on film and on the stage. He delivered the goods and everything else was a private matter.
Remember, the marxist left has taken control of western civilzation and is rewriting all of history... soon all the great and famous names of history will be gay, black, or female. Or a combination of those three.
Why would Guiness have revealed his sexuality when homosexuality was considered a crime in the UK until the 1960's? Homosexuality and spirituality are not contradictory.
Guinness converted to Catholidm in 1956 and knew that homosexuality is not acceptable (Old and New Testaments) so it was sheer hypocrisy to deny his preference. Fine if you are a non-believer, but don't go around claiming you are religious and go around cruising!
@matthewasherman, Proof ? His own diaries; His wife admitted it to Read when Read wrote his biograohy. His son. His friends. His "coattaging" and getting caught. ....got away by giving a false name once and in the case of the Malta Story incident, he just got away by a hairs breadth. Etc. All these people are liars ? As I've said before, I don't care if it weren't for hypocrisy.
It was no secret to close friends that he liked young men (especially working class) and rough sex with them. He also had a sexual relationship. With Peter Grenville the film director. While filming "The Ma!he Story" he went to a pub and tried to pick up American sailors....All this was judged up with a quick contact of his solicitor who,one way or another,helped the producer and director out of a very sticky predicamy. He was known (in the early 1930s) as Sir John Gilgud's 'boyfriend . As for privacy: he used "beards" to go to premiers and other functions; close friends knew how hard he was with his wife and son. His wife said to Read that sex stopped around 1954; his son sold a lot of his father's private diaries to the British Library but under certain conditiond. Anyway,one watches Guinness in films because he was a great actor and his private life was not that private ! What bothers a lot of people was his "hypocrisy" ie: his conversion to Catholicism and yet he carried on picking up his chauffeurs are because of his inclination. Why should he announce his homosexuality ? He worried( after the law allowed it) ,as his very close friends said: "about his reputation" .
Presented (and narrated) with a decidedly midcentury, closet-queenish bitchiness (an odd approach, considering that Alec Guiness's public persona wasn't the least bit fey), this otherwise informative retrospective on one of the finest actors in cinema history could have easily been so much more entertaining if the dated, insulting treatment of Guiness's alleged (and very private) sexuality had instead been replaced with a deeper dive into his incredible list of unforgettable film roles. Unfortunately, though, the almost obsessive pounding away over whether yet another now dead actor was gay or bisexual is pretty unimaginative, immature and just plain boring.
LOL, I see which way you think. I pity you, truly I do. Gay people are still being murdered for whom they love, and you still mock 'modern gays' for drawing attention to that fact. Shame on you.
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Fun fact - the anagram of Alec Guinness is genuine class.
Who cares about the rumours? He was a brilliant and versatile actor.
The point of this video is to trash the man without him being alive to defend himself. It's quite cowardly.
I don't think spencer was bi sexual .
Emphasis on versatile
A brilliant talent in so many classics.
You know it was all his own business. We don't need to know or care
Yes. ANd because he was decent and thoughtful enough to keep it to himself modern gays and liberals say "he hated himself". Even though there is ZERO evidence of that.
@@The_Foreigner_BeltThe video states that he hates himself because he was openly homophobic, not because he kept his sexuality to himself.
@@dustylong Darth has a problem with gay people. To him, they should keep quiet about their gay partners and not mention what they did on the weekend. It's all OK if you don't mention the word 'gay' or say you are gay. Sort of 1950s mentality in the 21st century. Strange.
He wanted to be known as homiphobic , but it seems he was Gay and his best friends knew it!
It is sad many men from that era until the present day were forced to conceal who and how they loved. Great actors/actresses always leave this world many gifts within their professional works. The majority will not careless about who and how they loved simply hope that they found love along with eternal peace
None of that is true. Your perpetual victim narratibe is stale and dry and no one buys it any longer.
as much as to conceal who they lust too. Worst if they went to the public bathroom they risk being caught. This happened with John Gielgud when he was younger. He was on the stage. It was silenced.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt a great actor/actress is simply that. Nothing less or more who and how they love is redundant. It's the legacy of their work that lives on IMHO
@@michaelmcgee8543 yes they were forced to take many risks including facing prison until the late sixties. Seems like a world away from today's more open society. Seems very backward thinking and unbecoming of the world we now live in. In the same way that the sixties saw the rise of the civil rights movements sixty years ago. I'm sure there was a lot of bigotry and hate in the world that we continue to remove generation by generation
Being self-loathing is not a surprise. He was raised in a society that viewed homosexuality as wrong. Like Rock Hudson, he feared that he would hurt his acting career, just like Anthony Perkins did . They put their acting first before their sex life . This is typical of all actors. Their art comes first before anything else, including morality and politics.
@michaelmcgee8543
Well, I think that was nicely stated and so fairly.
What I wonder about tho is how soon or not our fellow humanity will come to understand and accept the ancient multifariously demonstrated FACT, that Mother Nature implants such dual amorous 'capacity' into her primate males?
WHEN is this nonsense of torturous, willful madness going to end?
From out of psychology's realm the key definition of apparent contention is . . .
> polymorphous-sexual <
Meaning that, Nature as arranged for we males to possesses the innate capacity to exchange love and attraction to-and-for gender opposites or S-A-M-E-S !
What Nature does has purpose, unlike way too much of what we think, come to believe and attempt.
Now, as-to just what such a purpose might be, I'll leave to all of you as wondering.
(It would not require too much brain power nor observing to divine, for more rationally-configured inquiring minds. Give it a go!)
The hard cases on themselves, all around them as well as without are the MYSTICS, which types cannot be moved by reason nor demonstration, and thus their nearly insuperable hardness of opinionation, regarding the subject.
With these -- "Houston! We've got a problem!!!"
For a novel and delightful change, let's all get smart go forward, and prosper.
He became a Catholic but remain a lover of young men.
His business
"Rumors but no proof." Scrapping the bottom of the barrell.
I think he had a very solid marriage: hateful all this muckraking. Who will cast the first stone?
Well put.
A rather unflattering account of someone who appears to have been quite complicated and unpleasant- possibly due to his unstable upbringing. He was a good actor, despite this.
Privacy vs A personal agendas.
Why must we pry ?
Why do we judge from ignorance in curiosity, which only leads to stones being thrown by jealously and failed attempts.
Alex Guinness was a phenomenal Actor.
And that's all that needs to be said.
Alex could be bisexual, Spencer Tracy was Laurence Olivier was in the theatrical world This does apply to a lot of people.
Yeah, suddenly everybody was gay. And of course they are no longer here to defend themselves against such slander...
@@The_Foreigner_Belt they were not gay they will bisexual. Kevin Spacey is gay and quite rightly it was found not guilty in the sexual allegation cases recently in London. Sometimes you people do not want to know the facts
@@The_Foreigner_Belt Don't worry, no one will slander you, calling you a decent human being, after you are dead.
@@monicadaniels784 Look. A woman with an opinion.
@@WILLIAM1690WALES No. You don;t know the facts.
'' A double man''...well I have never heard that expression before, I presume you mean that there were two sides to him...☺☕
Oh, he cruised the toilets too.
Had known places in Brighton,too.....and Liverpool.....and Malta as nauseam!
It is the hypocrisy that is off-putting as Well as his misogyny .
He has been dead for over 30 years so, WHO CAREs? as they say in French "Passé".
It is important to keep the "gays are victims" narrative going as it is part of leftwing doctrine and power.
He died in 2000
He was a good actor anyway.
Always so admired the chap.
If forced to choose which of his roles I like best, it would be as the general in Dr. Zhivago.
As with all past-master actors, he was unique.
Persona!ly,I would say "Tunes of Glory" was the best of his films and I've seen them all.
In the UK, he would have been conscripted, not drafted and, as a RNR officer, he commanded a landing craft in Operation Husky (invasion of Sicily). D
Yes fine talent especially Star Wars
'Victim' 1961...Dirke Bogarde...
He doesn't sound like a nice guy.
True.
So what? He had a private life which, unlike in the movies, may not have been perfectly happy. He once bumped into James Dean who was showing off his new Porsche. Guinness had a sudden awful feeling and said to Dean “if you drive that car it will kill you”.
Just ditching the dirt! Kenneth Williams was rather petty in his diaries. I never heard of Alec in a court case because of homosexuality. I heard he was partly homosexual. It's possible his audience would have exonerated & applauded him as they did Gielgud in similar circumstances. Why pigeonhole people? As Bogarde is supposed to have said "I'm not going to spell it out for people!"
Does anyone really care?. Lets celebrate his talents in his work
"The Message" is more important than some actor.
It's 2023. Most people couldn't care less if someone was/is gay, bisexual, or whatever. Personally, I blame a lot of religions for the persecution and prejudices. On a sidenote, homosexuality even occurs within the animal kingdom such as Bonobos, Albatrosses, Penguins, and the rest. It's normal behaviour. I know your titles are always a bit 'click-baity' but I think most of us are over this sort of thing. Perhaps I'm wrong, and often am.
We were over gays a long time ago. Youre side pushed it on us.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt Sorry, but I'm not 'one' but have a family member who is. Nobody pushed anything on anyone. I suggest changing your 'sole' news source you're currently using.
Edit: Joined Jun 20, 2023 You're just another troll account. I shouldn't have bothered.
Who cares about Hollywood gossip?
Utterly uninteresting gossip! 😞
Weird photo....Guinness couldn't drive !
He always said he couldn't drive. Anyway, it was known how many ''gorgeous looking and tough young men' he chose as his chauffeurs !
Does it matter? He was a great actor who, outside of his professional career, had a fluid relationship with truth in general, let alone his sexuality. All great actors are great liars and he really was great. The audience's relationship with them should be confined to what they see on film and on the stage. He delivered the goods and everything else was a private matter.
Everybody enjoy his beautiful performance in The Scapegoat and tell us how straight he was :)
an other bisexual?lol
Remember, the marxist left has taken control of western civilzation and is rewriting all of history... soon all the great and famous names of history will be gay, black, or female. Or a combination of those three.
Thanks again John in Chicago
Why would Guiness have revealed his sexuality when homosexuality was considered a crime in the UK until the 1960's? Homosexuality and spirituality are not contradictory.
Guinness converted to Catholidm in 1956 and knew that homosexuality is not acceptable (Old and New Testaments) so it was sheer hypocrisy to deny his preference.
Fine if you are a non-believer, but don't go around claiming you are religious and go around cruising!
There is no proof of this
@matthewasherman,
Proof ?
His own diaries;
His wife admitted it to Read when Read wrote his biograohy.
His son.
His friends.
His "coattaging" and getting caught. ....got away by giving a false name once and in the case of the Malta Story incident, he just got away by a hairs breadth.
Etc.
All these people are liars ?
As I've said before, I don't care if it weren't for hypocrisy.
😢😮 So this now explains why Luke Skywalker never looks completely comfortable, around Alex Guinness ?. I understand now !.........😂😅
It was no secret to close friends that he liked young men (especially working class) and rough sex with them. He also had a sexual relationship. With Peter Grenville the film director.
While filming "The Ma!he Story" he went to a pub and tried to pick up American sailors....All this was judged up with a quick contact of his solicitor who,one way or another,helped the producer and director out of a very sticky predicamy.
He was known (in the early 1930s) as Sir John Gilgud's 'boyfriend .
As for privacy: he used "beards" to go to premiers and other functions; close friends knew how hard he was with his wife and son. His wife said to Read that sex stopped around 1954; his son sold a lot of his father's private diaries to the British Library but under certain conditiond.
Anyway,one watches Guinness in films because he was a great actor and his private life was not that private ! What bothers a lot of people was his "hypocrisy" ie: his conversion to Catholicism and yet he carried on picking up his chauffeurs are because of his inclination.
Why should he announce his homosexuality ? He worried( after the law allowed it) ,as his very close friends said: "about his reputation" .
He was into sado-masochism & regularly visited a London dominatrix.
🤫 Just as well you can not libel the dead !. I wonder how you would feel if people were to say that nonsense after your father died ?......
Didn’t know he worked in the bbc?
MrDavey,
where did you read that ?
He was a misogynist.
You really shouldn’t publish opinions of tissue paper without evidence.
Why the childish narration?
Presented (and narrated) with a decidedly midcentury, closet-queenish bitchiness (an odd approach, considering that Alec Guiness's public persona wasn't the least bit fey), this otherwise informative retrospective on one of the finest actors in cinema history could have easily been so much more entertaining if the dated, insulting treatment of Guiness's alleged (and very private) sexuality had instead been replaced with a deeper dive into his incredible list of unforgettable film roles. Unfortunately, though, the almost obsessive pounding away over whether yet another now dead actor was gay or bisexual is pretty unimaginative, immature and just plain boring.
So boring that you are visiting the channel !
Who cares ffs??? He was a wonderful man so leave him alone for god sake!!! Live and let live!!
Seems like this video is unnecessary…
It is important to keep the "gays are victims" message going.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt There will always be a**holes like you to make sure they actually are.
@@monicadaniels784 See. She even admits it. She will always believe gays are victims. Because she wants them to be.
@@The_Foreigner_Belt Look, I'm doing you a favor. Without homophobia, you would have no personality at all.
@@monicadaniels784 Luckily, you're a woman, and, therefore, don't have to have a personality.
Cobblers the narrator seems very insecure.
Handsome? I think not. Very good actor though. 👏 Nobody really cares about his uhhhm... daliances. Js...
This is bullshit
you wanna gossip, talk about todays hollywood
Today's gossip is all over the pkace, but yesterday's isn't all that well known.
If you prefer today's actors then plenty of channels for you 😉
Bullshit!
Very classy of him to keep it to himself and not use it as an emotional cudgel against society like modern gays do.
LOL, I see which way you think. I pity you, truly I do. Gay people are still being murdered for whom they love, and you still mock 'modern gays' for drawing attention to that fact. Shame on you.
Ummm, he had no choice in the matter. The times DICTATED that he keep it to himself. He had no say.
@@challengingoldhollywoodmyt2934 Ummmm, No it didn't and yes he did.
@@prudencepineapple9448 Shame on you for trying to emotionally cudgel me.