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When you understand that "endless falling living standards and prosperity" for the masses is the goal of our policymakers, then it all makes sense.
Yes! The bigger picture is important here. EVs, "net zero" and all the other society destroying activities are just the visible symptoms of what seems to be an overarching agenda.
spot on - WEF, UN, IMF, Soros, Schwab, Davos, Blackrock, Vanguard, and the list goes on..
What would a 'low carbon', ‘net zero’ economy mean and what benefits, economic, social, environmental, might we see? Nobody ever explains. A much-reduced standard of living?
@@EllieMaes-Grandad well... people are made of carbon. So that makes their intentions fairly clear
"You will own nothing" won't happen on its' own. If they make things bad enough there will be people happy to give up everything in exchange for food and a roof over their head.
Copper theft is another issue too
The EVangelists laughed at me when I brought that up several years ago
Thieves are ripping up the roads to get it in South Africa.
@@Hickalum yeah exactly can see that being a major issue with EV charging rollout too
So copper theft is only an issue with EVs and not with the millions of miles of copper wires already out there
@@TroySavary You are comparing apples to oranges. The "millions of miles" of copper wires you refer to have significantly less copper in them than the cables used in EV charging stations, hence the reason why thieves target EVs, so yes, this will mainly be an issue with EVs.
The politicians created this havoc will have moved on by the time reality bites.
With a massive retirement pension, lifetime, travel, perks and big cash handout for their service, and some of them are knighthood too😂😮
they are just the puppets
Exactly! One example Pelosi, how old is she? 90? Will she even be alive in 2035- 11 years from now? Will Biden even be alive 11 years from now? how old is he? 82?
@@3000secrets dunno but pauls boyfriend will still be in jail
In US Biden case, move on means to another world. He is barely free of life support now.
Can't mine copper at a rate quick enough to keep up with net zero plans. Estimates of lithium reserves being slightly less than needed to have the world's vehicle fleet all electric
And all this mining being done by diesel engines
World has collectively gone mad! 🤯
There will be no transition. There is no recycling. Stupid is as stupid does I say.
Be aware that these machines will need shed loads of copper as mechanical transmissions would be shredded by all the torque.
Diesel engines with electric transmissions
WEF brain parasite causing its hosts to destroy themselves acting in its interest.
"World has collectively gone mad!"
Except for people with common sense, but they are dismissed as conspiracy theorists.
Exactly! A Geologist, works in Europe, but an Aussie guy, has spent his life looking at global mineral reserves. There isn't enough Lithium for just one generation of the global fleet of passenger vehicles. So, if we know it's impossible, what is the real agenda?
AND THE SPOIL POLLUTES WATER TABLE
No, L-ion batteries are safe and effective like something else I can't think of just yet.
Yeah, stick to oil that has never, ever polluted water.
@@TroySavary Yes, oil and water don't mix. Oil will break down over time and many oil spills can be avoided. Some intentionally spilled.
@@johnnythefox1851 The Gulf of Mexico still hasn't recovered from the Deepwater Horizon spill 14 years ago. These problems don't just go away.
@@TroySavary As I said, some weren't accidents. But there is far more to the DWH than just an oil spill. That said, there will always be issues to an extent but it will break down over time. The Gulf has had other issues too, like millions of gallons of Frack fluid dumped there with the blessing of Trump, so it's not just oil. You need to look at the bigger picture.
You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.
Even harder is avoiding physics.
Ayn Rand quote
True, but even if fossil fuels were not the major cause of global warming (which they are) they too are finite. Using crude oil at the current rate of 100 million bpd can only go on for another couple of decades no matter what technology we throw at it. Wind and solar power are for all intents and purposes infinite and the machines we use to generate power from them can be endlessly recycled.
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 what is your proof that fossil fuels are causing global warming? how do you recycle wind turbine blades? doesn't change the fact that obscene amounts of copper are required for net-zero and that will have a profound impact on the environment.
@@specialkonacid6574 The proof is overwhelming and that you are even questioning the fact that putting 36.8 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in 2023 alone from burning coal, oil and gas WOULDN'T be a problem! In my lifetime CO2 concentration in the atmosphere have gone from 315 ppm to 419 ppm...the earth has never had to deal with such rapid change. That's just the CO2 problem, that over 4 million people a year die from air pollution in our cities globally isn't from the CO2, its from the NOX, SO2 and particulates being pumped out by vehicles and coal power plants...these are simple facts if you care to check them which I doubt you do. Denying that human activity is the main cause of pollution and habitat loss on our planet is akin to denying the existence of gravity...so please, get with the programme and ask yourself what YOU can do to reduce your consumption of fossil fuels.
And the mining is very green I bet .
Absolutely, have you not seen the green Haze-which is copper oxide or cupric oxide, that exists from any copper mine - goes into the water as well, becomes a lovely pretty green too😂
Big holes in the ground and huge diesel powered trucks.
What's not to like?
Mining is diesel powered
Plus, of course, the inherent disruption of the activity to the area - soil, water, air pollution, displaced material, disruption to wildlife habitat, poor working environment, etc
at least it was green at the location is where they started digging it all up, most likely not as green there now.🤔😏
@@SoupDragonish even the electric trucks and excavators are powered by diesel engines, usually on site
There is also the issue that if the price of copper goes up, it will become more and more attractive for theives, which is gong to be enormously disruptive.
And more and more expensive to purchase a new EV too.
Correct I've been thinking that too
Better start buying copper bars.
@@larryjimbobThere is a lot of copper wire in ICE cars too. Do you people actually think, or just face roll the keyboards?
@@TroySavary. Did you notice he sited the copper comparison in one vehicle. 40 lbs in the ICE to 200 lbs in the EV. Open your brain, follow the actual science.🙄
I have been saying this for years. You recently posted a video on the 10 minute charging battery that China made up to scam people into buying EV's. The charging cable to support that would need to contain 110kg of copper. Imagine a 3 car family needing almost half a ton of copper just for the charge cables. The cables feeding the home would need to be even thicker as the voltage is lower (so higher current). The average home would require over 3 tons of additional copper. The planet does not have enough copper to allow everyone to drive an EV so the laws being passed to force us into EV's are illegal by the virtue of enforcing an impossible goal.
Not when the new charging trees are operational and here is a source to prove it, this quote from copilot do keep up with progress.
"Remarkably, no utility upgrades are needed to install these “trees,” yet they can deliver impressive power levels: 200 kW or 500 kW.
At these power levels, they can add 200 miles of range in just 13 minutes or 5 minutes, respectively"
Its remarkable as they say all that copper presumably wont be required as no utility upgrades are needed so they have found a way to increase charging speeds without heavy cables. As a believer think of charging speeds like broadband speeds, we do, it doesn't need bigger cables to your house, as a EV supporter we understand this better than anyone.
This will upset climate deniers and anti EV luddites who cant embrace technology and when they are rolled out fossil fuel will be gone forever ha ha !🤨🤔
That's the idea.
The EV is a stepping stone towards removing cars from the masses.
@@Ifitwerks No need to upgrade the infrastructure to run 200/500kw chargers really 🤔 I'll like to see you wire up your kettle using 0.5mm instead of 1.5mm wire then see what happens as to carry a higher current you need a large cross section of wire that before.
The use of broadband speeds to prove your point isn't a valid one as it's a digital signal also optic fibre doesn't carry voltage.
Btw April fools day has long since passed.
i squared r heating /// haa haaa
10 minute charge would still be rubbish even if it were true, 5 times longer than filling up a real car! 😂
Not to mention the neodymium, rare earth elements, cpu chips ,electronics etc it's all mental
And the copper used in the plumbing and gas industries
Especially with heat pumps.
Yes, but this can be replaced by other materials.
@@JacquesMartini yep poly pipe water to the house from meter which needs replacing every 10 year’s composite pipe the rats chew though the house but still need brass for tap wear
What will we use instead of HDPE when they eliminate oil and gas. For that matter, don't worry, we'll be starving anyway, can't grow commercial food volumes without hydrocarbons!
@@JacquesMartini
What "other materials"? Regardless, very soon all finished metal products will be imported from China.
There will be plenty of scrap copper from knocked off charging cables to be recycled into charging cables to be knocked off to be recycled into charging cables...and on and on
it's a self sustaining symbiosis
Cue circle of life song 😂
than it truly is a renewable product, totally recyclable..
🤣
Sounds like the Arab traders who all got rich selling sand to each other in the desert; one would kick up the price, sell it to another who'd do the same, and as long as the trading kept going they all got wealthy. Problem is, eventually somebody's got to pay- and that's when the whole house of sand collapses back into the desert!
Shared it on X with our esteemed PM asking him to educate himself. For what it's worth...
@SuSang666 You can't educate stupid and Wishy Washy Rishi is certainly that! He may still be wealthy in the morning, but he'll also still be stupid!
are ushure you wote it corwectly...
Good luck getting him to listen
I'M THNKING OF RECYCLING
MY NEIGHBOUR'S CHARGING CABLE
I can see a possible problem with that!
@@johnnyhollis9977 not enough copper??
The gypsy clans are already harvesting it lol
You can imagine what will happen to the global price of copper, EVs will be more expensive and copper theft will go crazy.
@@hudsonbear5038 Well apparently although the cables are a juicy nugget of copper, the scrap value after stripping it out is quite low. Perhaps they are trying to make it less attractive to do a bit of midnight cable pruning!!! 😁👍
The energy come free from the Electricity Pixie.. Minerals are mined from the Tellytubby Garden and smelted with Fairy Dust... #EVs can be made channelling the energy of Happy Thoughts. 😜🤪😝🤪😜
😂😂😂
Exactly. They're following the science.
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Waitaminute- isn't there a Unicorn involved too? They told me there'd be unicorns!
@@deniswauchope3788 Unicorn farts power the mining equipment and refineries.
Tooooo many fairy tales as a kid I think but I liked it
No need to mine the copper. Thieves can supply as much as you need scavenged from charging stations.
😂
Sarcasm in strong is one this. Adoy
@@larryclemens1850🎯
Your forgetting the copper required for all the cables needed for the charging network.
But just remember, they DON'T WANT YOU IN ANY VEHICLE so this isn't an issue for them.
They don't want you living. You are the problem they are "minimizing."
I used to work i the scrap business & i thought from the start that there's not nearly enough Copper to build a charging infrastructure in every country around the world, the whole idea is ludicrous. As the price of copper goes up more & more cable will be stolen from charging stations too.
So a guy who used to work in the scrap business makes you an expert. I used to work in a snack shack. That doesn't make me an expert on the production of crackers.
Pro tip. Invest in copper miners and explorers.. the nuftis will push ahead with this the time being. Might as well cash in so you don't have to suffer
Yes it would appear , Copper may be the new Gold , and you can guarantee as demand goes up for battery raw materials and copper, the prices will only go up too.
Actually, by not investing in copper, we can bring a quicker halt. Maybe even buy up copper and sequester it from the Battery car industry. Gamma squeeze sell it back when it's still high but too late for them. You don't have to Help them to profit from this.
@@robertkubrick3738Your allowance from mommy won't let you buy enough copper to make a difference.
Copper AND silver! Buy physical silver and sit on it! There is nowhere near enough silver for the industrial uses they want to use it for. There are 400 paper ounces of silver for every physical ounce and that means the price of silver is 400 times less than it should be! The historic GSR is 1/15 and today it’s 1/80, silver can destroy the corrupt banking system if the people hold it. If you have 60 ounces of silver you are in the top 1% of holders IN THE WORLD
I have said it before. The WEF, have written a ‘discussion’ paper where it states what we all know. There is not enough resources like copper and lithium etc for both renewables electricity generation and wide scale ev ownership. They have stated that private vehicles are very wasteful being used only around 8% of the time. So car sharing it is for the masses or electric bicycles or public transport. You will own nothing… In your 15 minute city dog box on level 37 of tower F in area Z4.
If you have 10 cars any of them being used 10% of the time and those cars last 10 years if you replace them with 1 car used 100% of the time it will last one year so, in 10 years you will need 10 cars. So where is the benefit? A shared car has shorter life anyway because nobody cares about it, it's the same like the shared electric scooters which only lasted 2-3 months or rental cars which are done much faster than privately owned cars.
The benefit is that the 10 car owners can use them simultaneously to get to work. For 10 years.
@@knewhunter1 so, the idea of the shared cars is a bad idea
@@orionbetelgeuse1937 YES.
I am reminded of a statement that was made when the Prius was in its infancy that, "A Prius polluted more before it left the showroom floor than a full-size SUV will in ten years on the road", and the facts were undeniable. The focus then was on the mining in Canada then following that material around the globe where it was refined in England, made into batteries in China, assembled into cars in Japan where the cars were then sent to the US and distributed across our nation.....all involving trains, ships and trucks on top of the mining and manufacturing. It would be interesting to learn those costs today as I'm sure they would still be valid.
That repay period is now down to 3 years... and dropping. After that it's all gravy.
Hybrid cars create more pollution to produce than EVs and ICE vehicles.
It's worse than ever. There's nothing clean, green or renewable about the clean, green, renewable revolution
An electrician at a factory I used to work at said that there isn't enough copper in the world for mass EV vehicle use! 🙄🙂
A guy I worked with at a dunkin' donuts told me to invest in Enron.
Next the thieves will be stealing plumbing copper
@@knewhunter1😂 Scotty I remember him👍
"cheap electricity" said some idiot more than once.
I remember when i a kid in the 1960s at the start of Nuclear Power generation, electricity will be so cheap, they want even meter it. I think most forget MPs and many others think electricity is 'magic' , it just comes out of wires when you need it.
@@composedlight6850 'Movitone' newsreel!
@@composedlight6850 exactly the sort of thinking that milk comes from cartons along with all the other products from supermarkets
Also we have geniuses who suggest evs could be more efficient with better regen braking and putting generators on the wheels! 🤯
Tell it to the idiots who closed nuclear power plants
'cheap electricity' until they force everyone into electric vehicles, then they'll tax it to high heaven to counter the massive reduction in fuel duty.
Not only copper, but also elements like lithium, nickel and cobalt, as well. Demand for those is rising faster than the supply. Which inevitably causes prices to rise.
Looks like those young children in the DRC and other African countries will need to get an hour earlier every day.
They're doing exactly that. Why have slaves around when they can work from they're home, why have gas around when you can put people in phones with wheels ....both are being abused. @@garydurandt4260
@@garydurandt4260good thing they have you selflessly looking out for them!
@@garydurandt4260I take it you get only a small portion and of some minerals are out of there.
Tides are changing in Canada. Our current PM has lowest approval rating of any on our history. The official opposition has consistently been blowing them out of the water across all polls for months. He's a common sense man. Not perfect I'm sure, but he's against carbon tax and climate fear mongering. He does his research and predicted to win one of the biggest majority governments in Canadian history. Still have to wait until 2025 though for our next election :(
It's not who votes or how they vote but who Counts the votes.
We all though Trump would win in 2020 - holding rallies with huge support while Biden hid in the basement and never campaigned. We all see how that turned out.
Yes, Pollievre is going to win a landslide victory. What does that have to do with EVs?
19% of the vote got Trudope the job last time...we'll see
Yes we did all that in the UK last election with an 80 seat majority. They didn’t do anything they said they would and are going to get wiped out this July.
A Canadian mining company has bought the old copper mine near Kingman AZ USA that had been shut down because it was not profitable. Now it is being refurbished and will start mining in 2026 I think. My new neighbor is an engineer working on upgrading the equipment to new standards. Copper is money now.
Having lived in a copper mining town in Zambia, those mines are now owned by Chinese, this info was superb. Thank you.
Don’t worry about it they will just get the copper and other minerals from mining asteroids.
And the rockets to get to them will be fuelled by recycling old car tyres. Win win!
I wonder how many people will get the sarcasm Easter egg?
👍
It will be the public at large that will eventually educate the stupid politicians , in my opinion.
You can't fix stupid
rope - tree - dangle dance
Your right
I suspect it will be too late, and they will have retired from their government perks and left the country in a disastrous mess.
@@mikldude9376 As long as they don't take all the Reaper Drones with them they can be notified of our displeasure.
This was worked out a few years ago, by a professor in Sweden I believe it was.
See Prof. Simon Michaux.
Conspiracy theorist, hey
The greenies never let Fax get in the way of a feel good story. You do a terrific job, presenting the raw fax about the raw materials needed for this folly of EV.
Here the same people that demand that everyone switch to electric vehicles refuses to allow mining of metals in the name of environment
Yes in the US they are actually shutting down/blocking new mines. I believe there was one last year in Minnesota for rare earth that was blocked by the Democrats
President Trump actually said this week that on his first day in office net zero is out
Good man; the Donald will win for sure; as the rest of the (mindless) world always follows and copies the US&A, on ALL, good and on bad (police state, police urban human hunting,lights and sirens, jails for profit...hollyweed productions, etc ) the problem will solve itself;
you may try, but youcan't fool Nature; in spite of the damm HERD MENTALITY...
And no wonder, ONE man started all this climate religion, Al Gore, when he was 25, ( well...plus a musky fellow, ( looney tune?) more recently), and now, ONE man will then end it.
Trump also said he would lock Hillary up and build a wall that Mexico pays for.
Former
@@koosgijsman You are ignorant of customs, so just be quiet.
It will take Australia about ten years after to recognise the fact
Thanks for your program. Appreciate your fine work. From a senior citizen in Florida.
This is why there is big biz in stealing charger cables.
The craziness off all this is that environmentalists say we MUST transition to EVs and green energy, and those same environmentalists say we CANNOT open any new mines. It's a group that will never be satisfied no matter what we do.
Consider the huge environmental destruction caused by the increased mining for the various minerals needed for EVs and the supporting infrastructure.
Funny how you suddenly start worrying about the environment. What a hyporcrite!
At least they will have a place to put the un-recyclable wind turbine blades in the copper mining pits.
Let's not forget that just as growing corn to make ethanol for gasoline makes food cost more, so does EV competition for copper make housing construction more expensive!!
Found this channel a few days ago randomly. Instant fan from the first 50 seconds of the first video i watched.
I'm surprised University of Michigan allowed this study to be released. The coming scarcity of these materials will drive up the costs even higher. It has to. Do we even know how much copper or the other elements is left in the whole world? The reality of unintended consequences is approaching like a freight train.
You are forgetting the rare element "unobtainium"
Plenty of copper in the scrap yards inside those cables stolen from EV Charging stations. 😁
Evs are 20-30% heavier for our roads and bridges, and impossible for our present guardrails to hold back.
Copper is an amazing element. It always amazes me how far metallurgy has progressed over the last century. Unfortunately, the current familiarity with extraordinary metals has caused most people to take them for granted and forget that there is not an unlimited supply of metal ores.
They also forget the vast amounts of energy required for turning those ores into pure metals that we can use. There is good reason why aluminum is often called solidified electricity. And of course, steel could be regarded as metallic coal. Coal exports are usually thought of as fueling power stations, which can be replaced by solar, wind, and nuclear, but almost half of Australia's vast coal exports go into making steel, and there is no easy replacement for that. Even with 100% net zero emissions power generation (if there is such a thing) coal exports will keep growing for things like making steel.
Metals of all kinds, including copper, are fundamental to technology, but are never going to be the unlimited resource that is always there on tap without producing problems of their own.
Steel can be made without coal using just electricity.
@@Tom-dt4ic Theoretically correct. Now you should ask yourself why is it that major steelworks around the world are not doing that. (hint, it has to do partially to do with the competitive pricing of the resulting steel plus the scale of the electrical requirements). So do you want to destroy the world's economy by doubling or tripling the price of the single most important metal on the planet, or do you keep feeding that coking coal into those steelworks?
When New Zealand had power shortages recently it emerged that they had the problem that 15% of the nations electricity production (and virtually the entire output of their largest hydro-electric scheme) was being used by a single aluminum smelter. No country makes enough electricity to power the world's steelworks. That is why there is no feasible replacement for coking coal in the production of steel.
@@artistjoh I appreciate your thoughtful reply. I'm actually a little more optimistic that steel making, and other industrial processes, can be economically decarbonized in the coming years. Cheaper and cheaper energy from the sun will surely be a big contributor.
As for destroying the economy, global warming will do that far more effectively than tripling the price of steel ever could. Just the cost of one super storm in the US could decarbonize several steel mills and pay for the extra electricity needed to power the lower emission technology for several years, at least. And what price do you put on childhood asthma, and lung cancer deaths? to name just a few of the nasty externalities of burning stuff.
@@Tom-dt4ic I did not suggest that the use of coal in steel production is a good thing, however no one has yet devised a workable alternative, and steel is so central to modern technological societies. It is used in everything from concrete construction to tool making. I am just like you, currently in a building that contains substantial amounts of steel. My table has steel fittings. The cupboard door have steel hinges, my stove is made of steel, my fridge, even my kitchen utensils and pots and pans are steel, along with my car, my laundry tub, shower head. Even my shoes have some steel in their construction. Steel production is a huge part of our modern world that we are essentially enslaved by our own use of the metal.
Copper is just as important. Jet aircraft engines won't work without cobalt used in fan blades. Gold is essential for electronics, space exploration, and medical devices. Zinc, lead, tin, nickel, are all fundamental to the world economy, but all metals suffer from similar problems of environmental damage, costs, including energy costs, and availability. Despite a desire to solve these kinds of problems, and to address CO2 emissions, metal production remains a choke point with no easy solutions, and often no solution at all. It is impossible to increase copper production beyond the economically viable and mineable resources. Impossible to open enough new mines at the required rate.
Ultimately, this is less about what we do, and more about the number of humans doing the things we do. Smaller populations require less resources, but there is no easy way to reduce population numbers. I think populations will naturally go down over the next couple of centuries, but it remains to be seen whether or not we will be able to successfully ride the wave of peak population levels before numbers get low enough again that our resource usage becomes more manageable.
Meanwhile we have the curious situation that Australia has enough of the undesirable coal to continue production for thousands of years, but the world does not have that much of the most important metals. Including viable copper resources.
We live in a throw-away world. When our washing machine breaks down we toss it out on to landfill and buy a new one. But that washing machine contains a lot of copper. Every electrical item we own contains copper and most of that copper is not removed from the item before it is dumped.
During the 60s when I was out of a job I scrounged the dumps and places I knew where rubbish was being dumped. The amount of things that were thrown out that contained copper was amazing. I stripped them of the copper and sold the copper and the steel and aluminium left over to the scrap metal dealer. Some weeks I was making more than the basic wage. In today's world with many more electrical items produced and dumped than in the 60’s, more attempt should be made to recover the valuable metals that are thrown out.
Most of those appliances don't end up in landfills as more retailers provide pick up ànd recyling services for old appliances. Today, Copper is one of the most recyled materials. But no one has figured out hòw to safely, at scale, recycle EV Batteries - that's a problem.
@@larryclemens1850You're wasting your finger taps on these idiots, but keep it up! There are metal recyclers every 5 or 10 miles where I live in Florida. EVs will eventually create closed- loop recycling.
@@knewhunter1 due to the highly reactive nature of Ĺithium, it won't be your average scrap metal dealer who is going to recycle evs.
@@larryclemens1850 That's true. EV battery packs are a treasured resource, as they are usually reused or repurposed for off grid storage. For those that aren't, companies like Redwood can recycle nearly 100% of a car battery pack, at a profit. Eventually it will be a closed loop system as personal vehicle ownership declines in the future and the need for new materials wanes.
@@knewhunter1 Wait, back up a minute. "Personal vehicle ownership declines" That's your vision of progress? Declining standard of living? A decline in my choice of personal mobility? You really think that's progress?
Ok, aside from dubious social/political aspirations. Just on the technical side, when a battery looses its efficiency, its chemistry changes, to restore its efficiency, it needs to have that chemistry reversed. Yes Li batteries can be recycled. Currently only about 5% are. This compares to 99% of lead acid batteries. Why? Cost and safety. It costs less to mine virgin material than it does to recycle. What makes it so difficult is the inherent reactivity of lithium. So the question becomes this: Is it really environmentally beneficial to create such a toxic mess both at mines and landfills, before the loop can be safely and economically closed at scale? I would argue it would be a castrophic mistake to procede without that system in place, much more so than continuing to rely on better IC technology, which s far less toxic.
We now own two Toyota hybrids: a '23 Corolla and a '24 Corolla Cross. When we picked up the Cross yesterday, there was a new BZ4X (a monstrous Toyota EV) sitting just outside the showroom. As we walked in I asked the salesmen, "So they sent you another one of those things?"
"Yeah, they made us take it," one of them growled. That same dealer had a BZ4X collecting dust in the showroom for about a year before they unloaded it recently - not on a willing local customer but in a trade with another dealer. Nobody around here wanted it. That crapwagon has become a running joke between me and the sales staff there.
Asking the impossible just so your car only farts fresh air. Keep telling the truth.
Always love your videos. The truth will out !
During the second world war there was a shortage of copper, so to develop radar the next best metal was borrowed from the treasury - SILVER, all but about one ounce was salvaged and returned to the treasury at the end the war. Buy shares in copper producers now.
So basically, we have TOO MANY people on this planet who want an unsustainable good life, powered by oil or electric or both, right?
THINK people. You can do it!
WHEN are world leaders going to actually talk about the elephant in the room?
This is SERIOUS stuff by the way.
Producing a ton of lithium creates 75 tons of acid waste. Sounds really green, doesn't it.
Thanks, great update. Germanium is also a major problem in terms of resources for wholesale electrification lunacy.
The EV is a stepping stone towards removing cars from the masses.
Planned obsolescence
@@suad01 or enforced obsolescence.
Expect the cooper price to reach astronomical levels, if you can, start buying now all necessary stuff for your house and/or any other component, like the cooper bar used for electrical grounding in houses, cooper pipes for fixing air conditioners/freezers, heatsink for CPU and GPU on PC's, etc.
No problem, gold is better so we can just use that instead.
Bravo!
@@rosanneshinkle4133 I'm smarts like that!
MGUY after see some of your videos I have written my local government here in Arizona about Net Zero. One of our neighbors has just received a New Electric Fire Engine.
Being a scrapper I'm loving these record high prices. Couldn't care less about this electric craze but I sure love making the extra money.
I've been posting this here for months. Since the 1980s we have been hearing that oil is a limited resource, and now they are pushing "renewables" while completely disregarding that they require limited resources to build.
If you want to pass something useful onto your kids buy up old dump sites and gift them to the kids. Old dump sites will be full of jettisoned copper. Makes me wonder if I should hand onto my old copper until the price rises a lot more.
Great point being made in this video! But you touched on another point too as you were rhyming off the amounts of different substances needed for each vehicle, you mentioned plastics I can't remember how many pounds of it but you mentioned it. You can only get plastics from fossil fuel production!
silver is a better conductor and while it used to be more eggs-pensive than copper,,,,,,
Aluminum is better regarding weight and cost. A aluminum cable has 56% more cross section but only 50% of the weight and less than 15% of the COST compared to a copper cable of same resistance! It is already used a lot in high power high voltage cable and other areas.
it is not about what can be done. it is about control .
Reality has never been an obstacle for zealots.
Prices of copper will go up, especially if expressed in dollars, therefore it is safe and profitable for mines to produce LESS and keep copper reserves underground.
Lack of cheap copper will become an increasing problem in the future. For sure! Our society relies on the stuff, and aluminium can't replace more than a portion of it. We currently recycling the vast majority of copper. Today, it is normal for new copper wire to have about 30% recycled copper content. In Germany they've hit 45%. That percentage will continue to grow, and world population will decline - and so the recycled content will eventually go to 100%, and copper mining can then stop.
Did you know that 60% of all new Steel produced is recycled? And that the vast majority of steel is also recycled.
And did you know that water is so endlessly recycled, that if you pour a glass right now, and drink the water, some of the molecules you drank will have passed through Einstein's kidneys at some time. Weird fact. I know!
Is that where you got your smarts -)
Chris, However every day around the world megalitres of new water is being produced from the burning of coal and gasoline. This was once water millions of years ago when it was turned into plant matter or sequestered underground. So the chances of my water in Australia today once being part of a European or even North American water cycle gets less every minute.
Plus every minute plants are disassociating water into cellulose and taking that water away from the cycle.
I will burn a large pile of garden prunings in the next day or so and hence return the carbon and hydrogen in the plant cells to the atmosphere where they can be recaptured in due course.
Well spoken... great clarity of message. Thanks! Just subscribed.
Mark Mills the energy transition, expands on this.
And Simon Michaux.
It's clear to you, it's clear to me, and it's clear to millions of ordinary people out there. So the mystery is; why the hell is it not clear to our less than bright politicians? Good programme MGUY
Silver is the same situation re mining We can not keep up with the physical needed
Thank you, Simon. Very informative video for sure. Cheers mate.
MGUY why do you spoil the narrative with facts, it is un-Australian of you!
Don't worry, he didn't. Fantacy world as usual.
Luckily he is a Brit!
Often wondered about this. Aluminium high voltage lines won’t cut it with renewables. And all the machines. Appliances. Low wattage draw and supply.
🌟All of the BRICS nations must be breathless from laughing at the West; virtue signalling itself into impoverishment 😡
Copper grades from mines over the last three decades have dropped from 1.39% to 1.01% as miners have to mine worse deposits to meet demand.
Simon Michaux is the world leader in research about what raw materials are required to achieve nut zero.
The most hilarious part, is the same people who want all the EV's, are the same people who would protest all of the mines.
I invested in a copper mine near where I live in western Canada it’s going well !
We're inn Arse-traylia Mayutt
We dont deal in Pounds of weight
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1kg = 2.2 lbs. Dead easy. Presumably you have a calculator at your disposal, if you need help with simple division.
A British (alleged) engenier & lawjer told me that there isn’t enough copper to go around. He was so worried about the shortfall, he gave up his job and became a Sydney based something or other. He’s not worried about fossil fuel shortages, because there’s lots more of it than copper, like, and that’s a fact!!!
I love my lithium battery powered 4x4 truck. I run it up and down my road, jump ditches, roll it, flip it, chase dogs across the yard with it. It is much better than the gas powered trucks.
Most urban streets in the UK will need to be ripped up to upgrade the local distribution cables.
Each sub-station supplies typically 100 houses. So the upgraded cables will need to carry thousands of amps with a diameter of at least 2cm. Tens of thousands of Km of such cable will be required.
Every substation and junction will have to be upgraded.
But most problematic is we don’t have the Engineers, or the labour, or the money to do it.
This research is the end of EV...
I’ve heard the stat years back that to suddenly put everyone in an EV We’d need to double the copper mined from the earth since the Bronze Age; I believe that an understatement.
My work has me deal with building products, copper being one of them, seems every few days I get an email about another increase in the cost of copper. It is insane
BHP alerted the market to exactly this about 2 or 3 years ago (can't find the news release right now). They said copper would limit the whole electrification thing (thinking of the whole power infrastructure too, not just vehicles and batteries). They suggested minimum 10 years for a new mine to be productive even if you already have a copper deposit identified today. Yet the media at the time ignored it in favour of Lithium being the limiting factor, so sodium batteries would be the magic solution. I would think the copper miner probably knows what they are talking about?
I read an article a while ago that noted to have a 100% EV mandate for the USA only would mean we would require 400 years of mining at the current volume.. let that sink in
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Breakdown of raw materials used
for EV Lithium-Ion Batteries.
4:06 Breakdown of EV/IC copper
requirements.
My Canadian junior mining stock jumped 30% at one point this week ! They hope to explore and hit the mother load in copper on their land holdings 😊
Aluminium comes into it as well as a lot of transformers have copper and aluminium windings. You also have copper, silver, gold, aluminium heat sinks and transformers on circuit boards.
I figured this one out in 2018. Copper mining companies are anywhere from 3X to 10X on share price since then. I expect it will continue. Even without EV's copper demand is going up, mining grades are going down at all the big older mines and there are very few large mines coming online anytime soon.
What worries me if EVs do take off or are enforced by governments is the knock-on impact to other products.
For example, if lithium, cobalt, copper and other elements become scarce, then it makes commercial sense that it is prioritised for the EV industry and other uses will have constrained supply accompanied with massive price increases - so anything with batteries or motors are likely to get very expensive - such as mobile phones and power tools.
Here is an interesting example. I fly model aeroplanes as a hobby and I have noticed a massive hike in the price of balsa wood, a sheet that was $1 a few years ago can now cost $5. Retailers apologised for the price increases that were beyond their control citing the worldwide inflation and cost of living crisis. But this didn’t make sense, that might account for a 50% increase but not 400%, so I did some digging. Eventually I found what I think is the cause - wind turbines. The massive blades are often described as hi-tech fibreglass or carbon fibre, but in reality that is just the outer shell, the inner cores are often balsa wood. Now if you were a balsa wood supplier, who would you sell to, the aeroplane model industry offering $s or the wind turbine industry offering $1000s.
10tonnes worth of copper in a wind turbine you say. That would be worth a bit at the recyclers.
It’s a good thing they put them in remote locations.
Also very hard to get to. That tower won't come down as easily as you may think, unless using explosives.
Plastics are derived from natural, organic materials such as cellulose, coal, natural gas, salt and, of course, crude oil. Crude oil is a complex mixture of thousands of compounds and needs to be processed before it can be used. The production of plastics begins with the distillation of crude oil in an oil refinery.
i totally agree the availability copper going forward is going to be a massive problem - but wait until the world wakes up to the critical importance of silver and the ever widening deficit in supply
Politicians do not care about reality. Here is another example of it: a few years ago the Russian parliament (Duma) adopted an "anti-extremism" law that obliged all Internet service providers (ISPs) to record and store all Internet traffic for 3 years. But it turned out, in order to fulfill the law, ISPs would have to spend the amount of money per year that is comparable... with the entire Russia's budget! Complying with this law would be physically impossible because there were not enough storage to store all that data and not enough electricity for data centers that would store all that data. But what is even more ridiculous, most of that data would be videos, movies and porn. Moreover, almost all that data would be encrypted! Eventually, after facing reality, Duma changed that law to oblige ISPs to store only metadata (like IP addresses, connection time, etc.) and only for 6 months.
Did you see those wind turbines blown down by a hurricane in the USA. In China several dealerships have burnt to the ground .
The National Grid in the UK have acknowledged that they need to double the grid capacity in a few years, but cannot plan any further new power lines this decade as all the cable manufacturers are already booked to 2030.
Shocking but not surprising how much copper needed for wind turbines. In the UK as I imagine in many other country's, the use of copper for water pipes has been replaced by the use of horrendous PVC. But understanding the need for copper in the new renewables industries and the relative short supply of copper. I'm surprised its price isn't up there with Gold and silver. Then there is the massive need for gear oil in the transmission systems of those wind turbines.
Whats that about ',just stop oil '?
Although there is always room for improvement. I think the energy situation was just fine as it was but sadly they have deliberately destroyed many viable power stations in the UK and left us dangerously dependent on "green energy". Thanks for that! Life is just getting too expensive.
Lithium and copper are in Cornwall UK planning should be passed in time for the next century.
The copper that is available would be better utilised if is was built into a single 500W alternator, than scattered amongst 25 20MW wind turbines. A single alternator being spun by a gas turbine or steam turbine can generate 500 MW 24/7, week after week, month after month. The generator in the 20MW wind turbine will probably average around 6 MW during it's life, but you still need to put enough copper into it to handle the 20 MW it may generate for 0.01% of it's life. Same applies to the copper you need to put into the subsea cables.
When you realise that the goal is not to put everyone into EVs but to put regualr people out of cars altogether, you will understand the reason why politicians and their handlers don't care about all these seemingly impossible EV problems.