Transformers 3 - Optimus Prime kills Megatron and Sentinel Prime [4K]

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  • Optimus Prime resurrects Sentinel Prime using the Matrix of Leadership. Transformers: Dark of the Moon 2011 scene.
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  • @humanman7368
    @humanman7368 Год назад +3630

    Now that’s how you end a movie.
    With war crimes.

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 Год назад +114

      Optimus didn’t commit any war crimes.

    • @darthslather89
      @darthslather89 Год назад +188

      nah, killing an unarmed and defeated enemy for the sake of revenge is no war crime

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 Год назад +288

      @@darthslather89 Not only was Optimus pissed off at Sentinel for killing Ironhide, but executing him was a practical necessity; Sentinel for all intents and purposes is now a Decepticon.

    • @anshulkarkera8911
      @anshulkarkera8911 Год назад +139

      @@montgomeryscott5657 War crimes in this scene
      Count 1: Killing an enemy that was callijg for a Truce
      Count 2 : Executing an already defeated enemy

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 Год назад +164

      @@anshulkarkera8911 It’s not a war crime when you kill someone who is too dangerous to be left alive.

  • @nickwhite6249
    @nickwhite6249 2 года назад +3955

    "Time to find out."
    I feel like when you hear that quote from a hero as iconic as Optimus, you _know_ they're beyond done with everyone's shit.

    • @robertburns1220
      @robertburns1220 2 года назад +164

      Then again, this is the version that said "give me your face," before ripping off the Fallen's actual face and then his spark.

    • @dooplerboopler2681
      @dooplerboopler2681 Год назад +66

      @@robertburns1220 And also the version that brutally ripped a decep goons face in half. And also the version that murdered a human. And also the version who said "Ill kill you all!" after waking up. And also version who executed and unarmed old man begging for mercy.

    • @thunderwolfwyvern6314
      @thunderwolfwyvern6314 Год назад +128

      @@dooplerboopler2681 Also the version who’s lost one precious Autobot ally in each installment of the movies, so sick and tired of war he shows no mercy to the enemies that want nothing more than to conquer and kill off humanity and their planet, also the version that despite his genuine efforts to protect humans and Earth, was ultimately stabbed in the back by the very same species his faction vowed to defend.
      Buzz off with this “Murder Prime” BS.

    • @dooplerboopler2681
      @dooplerboopler2681 Год назад +13

      @@thunderwolfwyvern6314 nearly every other version of prime has been fighting the war for millions of years and none are this violent

    • @michaelsalas1217
      @michaelsalas1217 Год назад +11

      @@dooplerboopler2681 is sentinel prime being a traitor and murdered ironhide optimus prime killed sentinel prime with megatron's fusion shotgun 1:58

  • @MOHAWKL4A3124
    @MOHAWKL4A3124 2 года назад +3260

    All those battles Megatron fought and won in the Pits of Kaaon. Only to lose to to Optimus with one arm.

    • @sheamartin5229
      @sheamartin5229 2 года назад +106

      Now they're even

    • @nathanhills336
      @nathanhills336 2 года назад +524

      Megatron was at his weakest point in Dark of the Moon, physically and mentally

    • @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127
      @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127 2 года назад +55

      Hey guys Forgive me my grammar I'm not from usa or UK cause I'm from Czech.
      Handicaped prime kills megatron and bee in tf1 without Legs finished brawl
      But ironhide and ratchet in tf1 cannot kill starscream but in dotm human Sam witvicky can kill starscream xd
      Bee can defeat rampage big constructcon in rotf but cannot defeat drift from his autobot team and drift is just Tall like jazz or sideswipe and can defeat over povered Bayverse bumblebee who kills soundwave lot of protoforms brawl rampage nitro zeus..

    • @enterthekyuubi
      @enterthekyuubi 2 года назад +195

      @@nathanhills336 Plus Optimus was fucking pissed.

    • @nathanhills336
      @nathanhills336 2 года назад +132

      @@enterthekyuubi Yeah I mean, who wouldn’t be? And you can tell, it didn’t please him to kill both Megatron and Sentinel. He throws the gun down in disgust. Man I love DOTM

  • @theonejusto4330
    @theonejusto4330 Год назад +2441

    The fact that Optimus Prime killed Sentinel is just like how Sentinel killed Ironhide. Massive W for Optimus

    • @JP73RS
      @JP73RS Год назад +6

      @@imnotgivingyoumyname810 boo?

    • @BeavisT-800
      @BeavisT-800 Год назад +51

      Finished Sentinel*. If not for Megatron Prime would have been scrap

    • @mrpoopybuttface
      @mrpoopybuttface Год назад +9

      @@BeavisT-800 no he wouldnt its just for entertainment no matter what happened prime cant be removed from transformers

    • @suhrablyonshaw8602
      @suhrablyonshaw8602 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@mrpoopybuttfacethe only reason i would watch transformers is because of optimus prime just like watching marvel movies without tony stark which ya’ll know went to hell after tony died 😊

    • @_MECHA_
      @_MECHA_ 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mrpoopybuttfacehe can

  • @northernrider85
    @northernrider85 2 года назад +2220

    To be betrayed by a close friend a mentor a father figure and to kill them it sends so many emotions for Optimus because that was what sentinel was to him.

    • @Nicox-cw6zu
      @Nicox-cw6zu Год назад

      Man didn’t hesitate executing him while he begs for his life lmao

    • @mcoupe69
      @mcoupe69 Год назад +22

      It ain’t that deep bro 🫠

    • @malekat8539
      @malekat8539 Год назад +35

      @@mcoupe69 bro deep that ain't it.

    • @mcoupe69
      @mcoupe69 Год назад +3

      @@malekat8539 this is true as well young Male

    • @mcoupe69
      @mcoupe69 Год назад +2

      This is loss 👆

  • @cameronhardee7425
    @cameronhardee7425 Год назад +2117

    I feel like if Sentinel hadn't murdered Ironhide, Optimus might have actually spared him. Unfortunately, Sentinel threw out all of his credibility with that heinous action. I remember being shocked when I first saw the movie.

    • @botchedoperations3485
      @botchedoperations3485 Год назад +165

      Nah…sentinel had to die for Optimus character to developed.
      “You could never do the hard decisions”
      Shows the cold reality between the two.
      Sentinel is and fought Optimus for the kill
      Optimus: “no, please…”
      And sentinel was going to cut his head off either way…that is cold.
      Sentinel was hoping to abuse that weakness.
      Optimus killing him was the right call.
      “Did the hard decision”
      The same reason technically megatron intervene. In his poor state, megatron was next.
      “We were gods once, all of us. But now they can only be one”

    • @theshamegame2787
      @theshamegame2787 Год назад +117

      You forget, Sentinel was willing to allow the enslavement and massacre of the entire planet earth, leading to billions of dead and imprisoned humans, and also was very much trying to kill Optimus himself, and would have had Megatron not intervened.

    • @blove88
      @blove88 Год назад

      That and what he did to Chicago insured that he got a traitor's death

    • @Kumari_44
      @Kumari_44 Год назад +21

      @@botchedoperations3485 that ‘no please’ from optimus done something to me, man 😫 i dont ever want to hear him say those words again :(

    • @sradankullanc9266
      @sradankullanc9266 Год назад +5

      @@botchedoperations3485 What? Would Optimus have died if Megatron had not injured Sentinele?

  • @WINuFAIL
    @WINuFAIL Год назад +880

    Optimus in this scene is more cold-blooded than most movie villains and I'm so here for it.

    • @misterboxhead3045
      @misterboxhead3045 Год назад +24

      Honestly, I think the movies should have done something more about optimus acting like that instead of him killing in cold blood if the new didn't already did something like that

    • @rafaelsantos-nl9jd
      @rafaelsantos-nl9jd 11 месяцев назад +9

      i guess he was not that bad about making hard decissions after all

    • @JW-dp4we
      @JW-dp4we 11 месяцев назад +29

      At this point he was like, enough is enough, I'm cutting out the cancer from this planet (Megatron and Sentinel P.)

    • @nyxislost553
      @nyxislost553 11 месяцев назад +41

      I think this is the exact opposite of cold-blooded, he's actually overwhelmed with emotions, feeling the betrayal from Sentinel, grieving Ironhide, knowing that he finally has a chance to avenge his fallen brother and a chance to save Earth once and for all

    • @developedpronator7
      @developedpronator7 6 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@nyxislost553and what do you say about how he killed the fallen? "Give me your face" - Optimus Prime

  • @TheMC1102
    @TheMC1102 Год назад +355

    "No, Optimus!"
    It's too late to beg for mercy. Too damn late.

    • @mickymeza6571
      @mickymeza6571 10 месяцев назад +29

      He sealed his fate when he killed Ironhide.

    • @nilesclifford9704
      @nilesclifford9704 6 месяцев назад +15

      Sentinel prime should apologize to optimus prime for betraying the autobots when he has a chance.

    • @robertrulez5391
      @robertrulez5391 Месяц назад +15

      Even when Optimus begged for mercy when he said "Please" Sentinel was going to kill him anyway, so why would Optimus do the same thing

    • @fordguy2836
      @fordguy2836 29 дней назад +1

      @@mickymeza6571 I agree entirely

    • @devinmoody136
      @devinmoody136 16 дней назад +2

      You're right about that. Sentinel Prime met his end as a traitor for good.

  • @BaneTheMan
    @BaneTheMan Год назад +415

    Megatron: "WTF ,i just saved your life"

    • @comradeopthomasthehedgehog
      @comradeopthomasthehedgehog 6 месяцев назад +74

      Optimus: Yeah what about those millions of lives you took?

    • @spoongrman
      @spoongrman 6 месяцев назад +57

      ​@@comradeopthomasthehedgehog
      Megatron: oh yeah my bad bro, carry on

    • @TheAmazingBeanieMan
      @TheAmazingBeanieMan 4 месяца назад +31

      ​@@spoongrmanMegatron's a monster. But a reasonable one.💀 You saw how he thought about what Carly said

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 2 месяца назад +5

      Prime: Someone spoil the movie so we change the plan

    • @tommykaung5882
      @tommykaung5882 Месяц назад +17

      In the novel, Optimus and Megatron made truce. Megatron returned to Cybertron and Prime and Autobots lived on Earth.

  • @vladiator8120
    @vladiator8120 2 года назад +516

    Sentinel signed his death warrant with Optimus when he killed Ironhide in cold blood. When I first saw the scene when Optimus shoots Sentinel I instantly thought of Ironhide and those other Autobots he killed. Think that's what the writers wanted you to think about with that final scene.

    • @adriannguyen3257
      @adriannguyen3257 2 года назад +33

      That’s what optimus was thinking about all along. Avenging ironhide and que

    • @divinemoyo1720
      @divinemoyo1720 Год назад +16

      *cold oil

    • @bryanramirez2626
      @bryanramirez2626 Год назад

      Except for the twins I’m pretty sure he was ok with them dying

    • @vladiator8120
      @vladiator8120 Год назад

      @@divinemoyo1720 Lmao 🤣 Good one!

    • @thunderboltcougar5626
      @thunderboltcougar5626 Год назад +10

      Tbh, im expecting Optimus to say, "That's for Ironhide" just after he killed sentinel.

  • @TheProtagonist2020
    @TheProtagonist2020 Год назад +391

    Sentinel Prime didn’t betrayed the
    Autobots. He betrayed himself.

  • @enterthekyuubi
    @enterthekyuubi 2 года назад +707

    1:47 "That night...I was only trying to make you into a great warrior!"
    2:02 "You succeeded..."

    • @PR1ME98
      @PR1ME98 2 года назад +61

      Ahh we got a god war fan on our hands :)

    • @andydelgado8811
      @andydelgado8811 2 года назад +16

      I knew sum was off, bc I knew he said what you said instead of what he said in this video

    • @janro653
      @janro653 Год назад +11

      God of war

    • @CanisiusEzekiel
      @CanisiusEzekiel 11 месяцев назад +5

      ARESSSSSS

    • @axelStorymode
      @axelStorymode 10 месяцев назад

      Pretty fitting

  • @nglijie5716
    @nglijie5716 Год назад +192

    0:57 I screamed with joy at that moment.

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv 2 месяца назад +16

    Fun Fact:
    Peter David's novelization for *"Dark*
    *of The Moon"* had the original ending
    (which was also in earlier script drafts
    and in the comic book) where after
    Optimus first killed Sentinel with his
    rust cannon (instead of Megatron's
    shotgun like in the film), Megatron's
    offer of a truce was genuine with him
    stating that he is tired of fighting
    and he will tell the other Decepticons
    to stand down. Optimus is reluctant
    at first (who could blame him?), but after Megatron offered Optimus to kill him, Optimus accepts the truce.

  • @SpiritKnight365
    @SpiritKnight365 Год назад +123

    I love how sentinel died the same way as Ironhide

    • @Jollyjose251
      @Jollyjose251 12 дней назад

      I don’t remember Ironhide being in this movie

  • @noogai47
    @noogai47 2 года назад +514

    *FUN FACT!*
    When Megatron said "Who would you be without me, Prime?", he refers to their old friendship that happened tons of years ago.
    Their names were Megatronus and Orion Pax.
    Sentinel Prime was Optimus' teacher, as he said, but in the original cartoon series, Sentinel never thought Optimus about betraying yourself.

    • @POKE0I22Roblox
      @POKE0I22Roblox Год назад +10

      Gives me TFP Vibes😭😭😭

    • @jordanelbertnathanaelsibue7818
      @jordanelbertnathanaelsibue7818 Год назад +2

      Wait wasn't alpha trion is optimus's teacher, while megatronus is a prime who hunt primes

    • @FalangeRevolutionary986
      @FalangeRevolutionary986 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@JohnSmith-wt5zwNo

    • @anonymousguy7005
      @anonymousguy7005 8 месяцев назад +1

      Megatronus is The Fallen

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@anonymousguy7005yes and megatron takes his name, then shortens it after a while, but it depends on continuity

  • @kalvin187douglas
    @kalvin187douglas Год назад +322

    The *“time to find out.”* line gives me chills everytime,knowing how Optimus would decapitate Megatron with one move
    1:12 - 1:46

  • @unoriginalguy_
    @unoriginalguy_ Год назад +83

    “Time to find out.” Gotta be one of the coldest lines in that whole movie series

    • @Gaming_sol
      @Gaming_sol Месяц назад +1

      "I'll take you all on"

  • @skyfaller3d417
    @skyfaller3d417 2 года назад +457

    Sentinel got what he deserved! He foolisly betrayed Optimus and killed his friend when he was his mentor, teaming up with the Decepticons just to bring Cybertron back, but he couldn't accept that Cybertron is gone and he's a real hypocrite caring at all about letting the humans die! I'm surprised he's the one who told him how to be a hero, apparently he completely took it the wrong way.

    • @spidermonk3uVvwy8-2
      @spidermonk3uVvwy8-2 2 года назад +78

      Sentinel didn’t betray him
      He betrayed himself

    • @TaybeenTrill248
      @TaybeenTrill248 2 года назад +28

      @@spidermonk3uVvwy8-2 he betrayed himself

    • @skyfaller3d417
      @skyfaller3d417 2 года назад +15

      @@spidermonk3uVvwy8-2 I know that, either way it’s both, tainting his trust and friendship with Optimus, and becoming the one thing he was supposed to destroy.

    • @timegen8077
      @timegen8077 2 года назад +9

      @@skyfaller3d417 it's not his fault that he needed to attack the humans and autobots because he knew they will be on his way if they knew what was his intentions he had to kill ironhide so he doesn't have much trouble in taking the autobots out of his way he didnt do anything evil all of that he killed was because he needed to.
      Saying someone deserved their death just because of him wanting to get his home planet back is worser than betraying your own team temporarily to save transformers race and his planet back.
      You're saying that if earth got destroyed and our species is in danger you wouldn't want it back?
      He already explained Optimus that he betrayed because he wants to save transformers race

    • @timegen8077
      @timegen8077 2 года назад +11

      @@skyfaller3d417 Optimus Prime being friendly to humans doesn't mean every transformers would,infact the humans even betrayed the autobots with a more nonsense reason than Sentinel Prime.

  • @SuperImmortal
    @SuperImmortal 11 месяцев назад +8

    Their is no room to care about war crimes in a situation like this.
    "Mercy to the enemy mustn't come at the cost of mercy for their victims"

  • @shadowleon659
    @shadowleon659 4 месяца назад +15

    As a kid I cheered when Optimus Prime killed Sentinel Prime and even years later I still find his demise satisfying. That's what he gets for betraying the Autobots and nearly committing mass genocide.

  • @hunterdemarcy5497
    @hunterdemarcy5497 11 месяцев назад +466

    For those of you who think Optimus was being too harsh here let me be clear: Optimus did nothing wrong in this scene. First let's talk about Megatron. He is pure evil. He started the whole war on cybertron by teaming up with the fallen. It all started with him. He caused so much damage throughout these films and killed so many autobots over the years including jazz. Now he wants Optimus to just forgive him and make peace?! It's clear what he's trying to do here: he says "All I want is to be back in charge" not only does it clearly mean he wants to take back control of the Decepticons, but he will also try to take over earth again and will probably kill Optimus later on to prevent him from getting in the way. Optimus was right in what he did.
    Now let's talk about Sentinel: he said that Optimus must see why he "had" to betray him. He is 100% wrong. He did not have to betray him, he didn't have to join the Decepticons, he didn't have to kill Ironhide and lots of nest troops and he most certainly never had to enslave the humans and kill thousands in Chicago. He had the technology the autobots needed to win the war, but instead he used it for evil. If he had used the pillars differently, the autobots would have easily won and cybertron could be repaired. Optimus knew this. His entire moral compass and his desire to defend life was taught to him by Sentinel and what did Sentinel do? He totally abandoned his own moral principles for a delusional solution and teamed with the guy who started the whole war when he had what he needed to repair cybertron, he just had to use it differently. But he killed Optimus's oldest friend in Ironhide and enslaved an entirely different race. Sentinel was a definite hypocrite and Optimus executed him, not just for betraying his own principles but for enslavement and killing thousands of humans.
    In conclusion, Optimus is one hundred percent right in what he did. Sentinel made a choice he did not need to make, and no one in the right mind would make a true with Megatron. Thes guys made their choices and they dealt with a consequence.

  • @samppaax
    @samppaax 7 месяцев назад +28

    Can we just agree that this was the most epic scene in the all of transformers

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper 6 месяцев назад

      Opening of the 86 movie>

  • @obrikidivine7973
    @obrikidivine7973 8 месяцев назад +11

    1:58”you didn’t betray me you betrayed yourself” bro was fed up with his bullshit

  • @Taniks_The_Final_Shape
    @Taniks_The_Final_Shape 2 года назад +151

    Megatron, a legendary gladiator in Kaon, final words were “rock fart”.

  • @thepotatoshow1887
    @thepotatoshow1887 4 месяца назад +15

    Optimus executing Megatron and Sentinel was objectively justified because:
    1. Megatron's truce was bullshit. He was actively waving around a shotgun and claimed he wanted to be back in charge, that paired with the attempted mass populicide he attempted 5 years later in AOE proves he had no intent of surrendering.
    2. Sentinel is a traitor to his faction, who slaughtered the first lieutenant in cold blood, attempted to kill his leader after cutting off his arm, and lead a genocide where his forces gunned down fleeing civilians hours before attempting to enslave 7-billion people.
    3. Optimus spared Megatron's life at the end of ROTF, and he repaid him by attempting to enslave the human species.
    4. Transformer prisons didn't exist until TLK, which takes place in 2023, a little over a decade after DOTM. The only logical way to deal with these tyrants was execution.

    • @nickthebabba7767
      @nickthebabba7767 Месяц назад +1

      I don’t think people heard Megatron yell “THIS IS MY PLANET” as he beat Sentinel to the ground
      Living proof that he was lying about his “truce”

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 24 дня назад

      I couldn’t agree more☝🏻

    • @jaisenweaver7938
      @jaisenweaver7938 13 дней назад

      The Last Knight took place in 2018

  • @alexcasares7401
    @alexcasares7401 2 года назад +91

    1:33 So Optimus had Megatron's back this whole time

    • @eyadabdelfatah3506
      @eyadabdelfatah3506 Год назад +9

      @Daniel Cafarelli
      Actually he meant Optimus literally had Megatron's back if you focus clearly

    • @arealkingsamcarter7361
      @arealkingsamcarter7361 Год назад +6

      Prime is a cold blooded killer in a complete psychopath in the Bayformers universe. 😂

    • @Markiplierforreal
      @Markiplierforreal Год назад +7

      @@arealkingsamcarter7361 how would you feel if your home planet got destroyed along with your friends to these guys

  • @Cassimfan
    @Cassimfan Год назад +285

    For people who say this is out of character for Optimus... yeah it is... when he's portrayed without flaws! I like this version, an Optimus with flaws, with limits, and in this moment understanding he cannot allow Sentinel or Megatron to live and attempt something like this again. He has already come to terms with the loss of Cybertron even before this movie happened, and no version of Optimus would allow what Sentinel and Megatron were attempting. This is when Optimus cast aside the idea of mercy for these two and stood with the full intent to kill them both, which means he wasn't holding back. Megatron is so used to Optimus holding back he was caught off guard and thus defeated so easily.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 Год назад +18

      You confuse an Optimus who stays true to his moral convictions with a flawless character. Optimus would of never executed a surrendering enemy in cold blood.

    • @AEstetica.feminina
      @AEstetica.feminina Год назад +53

      @@kingorange7739 This "Surrendering enemy" litteraly kill millions of peaple and kill a leal friend (Ironhide). This no is the Mister Nice Guy Optimus, this is a tired warrior.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 Год назад +3

      @@AEstetica.feminina he doesn’t have to be nice. As if you bother reading the original novel, even he was conflicted upon accepting the peace. However you clearly see the difference between that where he was willing to come to reason and understanding vs just executing in cold blood out of vengeance

    • @Markiplierforreal
      @Markiplierforreal Год назад +19

      @@kingorange7739 but still that old man was trying to enslave billions and kill autobots
      And megaton hadn’t even put his weapon down besides he still killed hundreds of humans and plenty autobots
      So I just like to think of it when Optimus killed them he was thinking
      You can’t kill anymore of my people if your dead
      Edit2 ok I’m disagreeing now

    • @bee14ish
      @bee14ish Год назад +5

      @@kingorange7739 He just did. Get over it.

  • @lathikap9287
    @lathikap9287 3 месяца назад +34

    Optimus said "please" to sentinal not to spare his life, but to stop what he is doing to earth.

  • @lightningwolf1119
    @lightningwolf1119 Год назад +34

    He’s right sentiel prime didn’t betray Optimus he betrayed himself

    • @piolotadina6284
      @piolotadina6284 11 месяцев назад +6

      The way optimus says about "you betrayed yourself" means sentinel did not accept that they were machines and wants to call themselves Gods

  • @mylesrobinson9822
    @mylesrobinson9822 11 месяцев назад +23

    This is not a war crime. Both were extremely dangerous threats to autobots and humanity if left alive. Optimus did justice to all by killing them expeditiously. Ironhide and Jazz needed to be avenged. Let's not forget that Megatron killed Optimus already. This was long overdue. A truce wouldn't have made any sense.

    • @intorsusvolo7834
      @intorsusvolo7834 5 месяцев назад +2

      Also I think a truce would fall apart over time and it will be civil war all over again.

    • @nategreen4482
      @nategreen4482 Месяц назад

      There was a truce in a deleted ending

    • @PikachuLittle
      @PikachuLittle 6 дней назад +1

      You are under no obligation to accept a surrender that you do not believe is being given in good faith. Sentinel Prime almost certainly was not surrendering in good faith.

  • @thrusttheconehead5369
    @thrusttheconehead5369 Год назад +39

    “FOR IRONHIDE!!!!”

  • @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid
    @HummaKavula-DontVoteForStupid 23 дня назад +4

    You have to admit, Optimus is quite bad ass in the Transformers universe. He’s just a knight but he has bested and eliminated titans, gods, and so many formidable foes. His victories include Megatron, Galvatron, Unicron, The Fallen, an enhanced Scourge, Lockdown and many others. You can even say he defeated the mighty Grimlock into submission

  • @geothom
    @geothom Год назад +778

    Honestly, the original ending where Optimus ans Megatron peacefully end the war was alot better. Too me, its not in character for Optimus to just murder Megatron by ripping his spine out in an extremely painful way.

    • @fivestarman5130
      @fivestarman5130 Год назад +389

      It's not in character for Optimus to fucking execute Sentinel with a shotgun while he begs for his life either lmao

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger Год назад +295

      This whole movie series was "out of character," although I thoroughly enjoyed seeing Optimus wreck people.

    • @qualicumjack3906
      @qualicumjack3906 Год назад +78

      You think it’s in character for Megatron to stop trying to take over the world?

    • @grand_max66
      @grand_max66 Год назад +115

      @@qualicumjack3906 Yeah, other continuities like IDW, Prime, some Marvel spinoffs, CW and others have shown it's perfectly in reason for Megatron to wish to stop the war if he either see no reason to continue it or has become disillusioned with the whole thing.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Год назад +10

      @@qualicumjack3906 this time it would have made sense though

  • @JetStream_Mann
    @JetStream_Mann Год назад +11

    I’ve always disliked when people say that this wasn’t prime, in war there will never be the goodytwoshoes leader, especially if they were betrayed, you will be hanging on by a string like optimus, he tried to keep his anger in but couldn’t

    • @deshawnwinn9454
      @deshawnwinn9454 Год назад +5

      Finally, a transformers fan who actually has a brain.

    • @Meldrick-jv7sy
      @Meldrick-jv7sy 16 дней назад

      ​@@deshawnwinn9454*A fan that has the same opinion as you.

    • @captainrex4723
      @captainrex4723 3 дня назад

      @@Meldrick-jv7syI mean this scene is really gritty, it’s clearly what the writers were going for.
      “He’s too dangerous to be left alive” sorta shit- has happened countless times in war.

  • @logeyperogi1805
    @logeyperogi1805 2 года назад +439

    I’ve heard some people talking about how Optimus wasn’t exactly heroic here
    Here’s how I see it, sometimes you can’t be the hero to do the right thing
    Cybertron was a dying world, and the Transformers a dying species, Optimus saw this, he understood this and so he knew that he couldn’t stop it, but when Sentinel said that they just needed to kill another planet and another species to save Cybertron and the Transformers race, well, it’s not right
    If humanity were to be dying off and we could survive through the extermination of a separate race of creatures, we wouldn’t be heroes, we’d be monsters, killing off an entire other race just to save our dying race
    I understand the importance of worrying about ourselves above all others, but that should really only be applicable in defending ourselves from an antagonizing force, never as the antagonists ourselves
    And so Optimus may not have been a hero, but he did the right thing, sacrificing one race for another isn’t heroic, it’s wrong

    • @enterthekyuubi
      @enterthekyuubi 2 года назад +94

      Megatron could never be trusted, so wanting a truce was BS the moment he betrayed Sentinel, and Sentinel DESERVED to die for killing Ironhide with his back turned like a coward. Optimus did nothing wrong in this scene.

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 2 года назад +38

      @@enterthekyuubi Sentinel for all intents and purposes is now a Decepticon, and Decepticons are untrustworthy.

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 2 года назад +29

      I have the sad feeling that if our planet was dying and the human race in danger of becoming extinct, if we found a habitable planet that was already inhabited, most of us would feel justified in eliminating the native population so we could live there😔

    • @montgomeryscott5657
      @montgomeryscott5657 2 года назад

      Besides, the Decepticon’s plan to rebuild Cybertron is doomed to fail: transporting a large planet into Earth’s orbit would have catastrophic effects on Earth’s gravitational field and orbit around the Sun. Their plan to enslave humanity would fail as all or most of the human race would be dead. Plus, how are humans supposed to rebuild a planet they have never been to? What standard do they use?

    • @dragmaXE
      @dragmaXE 2 года назад +8

      Oh don’t sell us too short. Because that is exactly what I’d say just about what anyones virtually extinct people would try to do. But with us human I think we would actually prefer to just simply look for a place to stay and if it’s already inhabited it would just depend on the situation on exactly what would happen in the end.

  • @comradeopthomasthehedgehog
    @comradeopthomasthehedgehog 6 месяцев назад +6

    “Time to find out”
    You know Optimus Prime is done holding back

  • @b.o.j.1442
    @b.o.j.1442 11 месяцев назад +13

    I love how everyone is pissy that sentinel gets executed. Despite the fact that he committed treason and the punishment for that, typically is death.

    • @Meldrick-jv7sy
      @Meldrick-jv7sy 16 дней назад

      Nobody is pissy about that.
      The fuck are you talking about?

    • @captainrex4723
      @captainrex4723 3 дня назад

      @@Meldrick-jv7sythe comments are full of people being pissy about it, “it’s not in character” for Optimus apparently.
      Bollocks imo, after years of war- multiple betrayals, dead friends, thousands of humans dead- it’s perfectly in character

  • @user-pd5dw1zc5w
    @user-pd5dw1zc5w 5 месяцев назад +8

    Optimus is truly now the last prime

  • @GabeStrenke
    @GabeStrenke Год назад +76

    I never really noticed how Optimus was maybe fighting a little reserved against Sentinel, then Megatron comes in with brutality and ferociousness, and then Optimus reciprocates that to Megatron.

  • @razbieheart9740
    @razbieheart9740 11 месяцев назад +48

    To the people that said it was unfair for Optimus to kill Megatron since he was genuine abt the allience, letting u know he's the same war lord that coldly killed millions back at cybertron and still tried to kill more in earth. That's just a well deserved punishment, no space for going back

    • @FreighttrainDaniel1225
      @FreighttrainDaniel1225 7 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed

    • @comradeopthomasthehedgehog
      @comradeopthomasthehedgehog 6 месяцев назад +5

      Also Michael Bay confirmed that Megatron’s truce was false

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@comradeopthomasthehedgehoghe changed the ending after it got leaked

    • @MultiBoxingKid
      @MultiBoxingKid 5 месяцев назад +4

      There’s also the fact that he didn’t drop his weapon to show he wanted things to end.

    • @Meldrick-jv7sy
      @Meldrick-jv7sy 16 дней назад

      ​@@comradeopthomasthehedgehogNah, he just changed it.

  • @shaggy1270
    @shaggy1270 Год назад +15

    The great final words of megatron: ROCK FARTS

  • @octobotimus
    @octobotimus 2 года назад +545

    Optimus kills old man begging for mercy.

    • @thegermanfool8953
      @thegermanfool8953 2 года назад +206

      An old man that almost caused the end for humanity and killed one of his own along with betraying his student

    • @ermac102
      @ermac102 2 года назад +9

      Ahh rlm fan i see

    • @eldnahym
      @eldnahym 2 года назад +2

      @@ermac102 indeed

    • @AkaliakarriAMV
      @AkaliakarriAMV 2 года назад +13

      I smell a war crime being committed

    • @tronolontheone1569
      @tronolontheone1569 2 года назад +57

      It was justified. Sentinel threw away all Honor. Optimus had no need to show him any in return.

  • @Days-ru8jh
    @Days-ru8jh 2 года назад +143

    I keep saying sentinels last words
    and also optimus’s “you didn’t betray me, you betrayed yourself” for no reason

    • @tegslegs2878
      @tegslegs2878 2 года назад +3

      Pptimus

    • @tegslegs2878
      @tegslegs2878 2 года назад

      Optimus said that dumb ass not setinels

    • @Days-ru8jh
      @Days-ru8jh 2 года назад

      @@tegslegs2878
      “And also optimus’s”

  • @dencamp6685
    @dencamp6685 2 года назад +72

    R.I.P Leonard Nimoy

  • @jaydennis7631
    @jaydennis7631 Год назад +25

    Optimus killing Megatron:
    And that's how you go for the head, Thor

  • @undefinedindefinitely2904
    @undefinedindefinitely2904 3 года назад +69

    Yeah I guess he got the job done but not without help. F for megatron.

  • @rithvikmuthyalapati9754
    @rithvikmuthyalapati9754 11 месяцев назад +2

    1:48 Aah the music is so good

  • @epicpeanutx1066
    @epicpeanutx1066 2 года назад +57

    I see sentinel as a bad guy more than megatron

    • @nationstremblebeforeme1487
      @nationstremblebeforeme1487 Год назад +1

      Well Sentinel was manipulated by Megatron so i wouldn't say so

    • @Mannyhdz0052
      @Mannyhdz0052 Год назад +10

      @@nationstremblebeforeme1487 he actually wasn't he's the one who suggested a deal between Megatron

  • @rahilsharif5831
    @rahilsharif5831 2 года назад +27

    Optimus then picked up Megatron's Blaster and turned to Sentinel. Sentinel said that he only wanted their race to survive, and that was why he had to betray him. Optimus only said he betrayed himself, before shooting Sentinel In the chest the same way Sentinel had mercilessly executed Ironhide, before firing a second and final blast at Sentinel's head, killing his old mentor for good, and avenging Ironhide he killed.
    Following his death, Sentinel's body was taken and dismantled. His head was removed from his body and used for study by KSI.

  • @kleiYT
    @kleiYT 2 года назад +15

    And That Is For Jazz and Ironhide

  • @notiddypunkgf2246
    @notiddypunkgf2246 Год назад +66

    "Peter, don't be a Hollywood hero, be a real hero. Real heroes don't yell and act tough; be strong enough to be gentle."
    -Peter Cullen on auditioning for Optimus Prime

    • @officialkirbyfan6899
      @officialkirbyfan6899 Год назад +2

      Kinda shows you how bad Prime's character is in these live action films

    • @lance2580
      @lance2580 Год назад +6

      Small correction; that was Larry Cullen who taught Peter Cullen to treat Optimus Prime as a hero like that.

    • @415bigk
      @415bigk Год назад

      Bro that brought me here!!!

    • @LaloSalamancaGaming69
      @LaloSalamancaGaming69 Год назад +6

      @@officialkirbyfan6899bad? Bruh this is a realistic character
      You want someone who is nice with murderers like decepticons?

    • @tray6441
      @tray6441 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@LaloSalamancaGaming69Facts. People really think this Optimus was gonna be the same from their childish Saturday cartoon transformers

  • @goawayihavecommentstomake1488
    @goawayihavecommentstomake1488 2 года назад +23

    Behold... THE DOUBLE-TAP!

  • @brandontorrance6923
    @brandontorrance6923 3 года назад +28

    1:23 time to find out

  • @mnmmcg3543
    @mnmmcg3543 Год назад +22

    I don't think Optimus is pleading for his life so much as he is pleading for Sentinel to not betray the person he used to be and follow through with his horrific plan.

    • @garytaylor8193
      @garytaylor8193 Год назад +10

      That's how i saw it. Optimus really didn't want to fight or kill him but when megatron showed up the facts were out there.
      Help sentinel kill megatron and destroy a entire species.
      Help megatron kill sentinel and megatron just leaves and this whole shit continues again next week probably.
      Bro said fuck it im ending both

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 Год назад +2

      @@garytaylor8193 ​ Optimus killing Megatron after Megatron saved him was cold and he should’ve spared him for that. That was too out of character.
      However Sentinel deserved to be killed the way he did though. Sentinel was willing to sacrifice every Autobot as much as humans for his plan.

    • @FalangeRevolutionary986
      @FalangeRevolutionary986 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@petermj1098Optimus wasn't having it

  • @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127
    @Jazzys.Prime.Chilling.Time127 2 года назад +29

    We were gods once all of us but here only by one

    • @dragmaXE
      @dragmaXE 2 года назад +5

      *Shot Sentinel three times in the back and beats the scrap out of him*
      Megatron: *THIS. IS. MY. PLANET!*

    • @Lowclasswarrior778
      @Lowclasswarrior778 7 месяцев назад +2

      Now!… we need a truce.. all I want is to be man in charge.. besides… who would you be without me prime?

    • @nickthebabba7767
      @nickthebabba7767 Месяц назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Lowclasswarrior778*Time to find out.*

  • @jaedinwest980
    @jaedinwest980 2 года назад +20

    Megaton deserved this kind of death because when I watched the 3v1 Optimus got an insanely brutal death and I felt a huge Uhaul of hate in my heart.

    • @domenickdefrankofficial
      @domenickdefrankofficial Год назад

      Was looking for a comment like this. Thank you! That made me so angry. Notice Optimus severed the arm he stabbed him and exploded him with first thing, too. Took away his best weapon and then took away his ability to continue living. 😂 Satisfying to say the least

  • @tomaslopez2940
    @tomaslopez2940 Год назад +10

    1:23 You know you’re screwed when Prime seals up his battle mask…

  • @AtlasStarz
    @AtlasStarz Год назад +10

    Megatron saying “who would you be without me, prime?” Give me “you wouldn’t be I hero if I wasn’t a villain” vibes kinda

  • @zaragachizanparo4948
    @zaragachizanparo4948 Год назад +5

    2:05 And that's why I say, hey man, nice shot.

    • @gegora5257
      @gegora5257 3 месяца назад

      that cyborg ninja

  • @josh6689
    @josh6689 10 месяцев назад +5

    I always come back just to here "we were gods once!" Its so badass how its delivered

  • @wailokning2219
    @wailokning2219 14 дней назад +4

    Sentinel Prime : All I ever wanted… Is just the survival for our race…..
    Optimus Prime : Say that to Ironhide and the skids

  • @jarechoalpha1784
    @jarechoalpha1784 Год назад +27

    The fact that Megatron didn't even have a chance to fight prime and prime just rips off Megatron Apart is so Brutal

  • @EnragedPilgrim
    @EnragedPilgrim Год назад +9

    "Time to find out"
    I swear Optimus Prime was listening to doom music with adrenaline rushing through his spark while imagining in his head how he would win the fight like every 5th grader thinking of a school shooting and how they'd stop it because Optimus went crazy on Megatron in that scene, 1 handed take down by decapitation. Bravo.

  • @nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
    @nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Год назад +29

    RIP Leonard Nimoy the best actor for extremists in Atlantis The Lost Empire, Kingdom Hearts, Transformers

    • @TheMouseAvenger
      @TheMouseAvenger Месяц назад +2

      And Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde in "The Pagemaster", & Mr. Moundshroud in "The Halloween Tree"...
      ...&, of course, the one & only Spock in "Star Trek". 🖖

  • @Jampolo_OG
    @Jampolo_OG Год назад +12

    Optimus sounds so pissed it's actually scary

  • @actionman9451
    @actionman9451 Год назад +56

    These movies are amazing and still hold up today. I loved how he can still kill 2 enemies with one arm.

    • @joshmontemayor6098
      @joshmontemayor6098 Год назад +1

      When I 1st saw this in theaters, I honestly thought that Optimus wouldn't survive after getting his arm ripped off, but the fact that he did blew me away. What's even more awesome is that afterwards, he still took out Megatron like nothing happened.

    • @actionman9451
      @actionman9451 Год назад +2

      @@joshmontemayor6098
      That’s how badass Optimus is. He’s the only character who could be beaten almost to death and have his arm torn off and still win a fight. It annoys me how these films get a lot of bad rep.

    • @Jalen.3
      @Jalen.3 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@actionman9451agreed. Idc what anyone says I like Optimus this way.

    • @moonwhooper
      @moonwhooper 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@joshmontemayor6098tbf he caught megatron off guard

    • @intorsusvolo7834
      @intorsusvolo7834 5 месяцев назад

      @@moonwhooperand Megatron softened up Sentinel for Optimus ;)

  • @POKE0I22Roblox
    @POKE0I22Roblox Год назад +27

    What Optimus prime meant that “you betrayed yourself" He meant by saying that sentinel turned around

  • @memerboi8532
    @memerboi8532 Год назад +22

    Holy sh&t that *Time to find out* part was insane! It really shows how much optimus was done with everyone's bull$hit.

  • @LuckyRabbit234
    @LuckyRabbit234 Год назад +4

    “No, Optimus!”
    You, who are without mercy, now plead for it? I thought you were made of sterner stuff, Sentinel.

  • @rashadagayev7674
    @rashadagayev7674 2 года назад +21

    Sentinel was the reason why people became hating Autobots

  • @requiemstudios2090
    @requiemstudios2090 Год назад +17

    Optimus was right sentinel didn’t betray the Autobots he betrayed himself he broke the oath of the primes and this is the punishment he deserves for all of the crimes he committed.

    • @captainrex4723
      @captainrex4723 3 дня назад +1

      Great point, seems silly to judge robotic aliens by human standards of war. The prime oath holds deep symbolic meaning.

  • @Mmmm-tx6qc
    @Mmmm-tx6qc 5 месяцев назад +4

    Mfs when Optimus doesn’t spare 2 individuals who tried to enslave/kill billions of sentient lifeforms for their own benefit for some reason:😡😡

    • @captainrex4723
      @captainrex4723 3 дня назад

      One of whom was literally about to execute Optimus; and the other literally says “I just wanted to be back in charge”!

  • @akeemgee8853
    @akeemgee8853 2 года назад +26

    Sentinel thought he can get his way out of this not it's good thing Optimus kill Sentinel for what he done Betrayed Autobots when he killed Ironhide, Skids, and Mudflap and made Decepticons attack Chicago. Optimus will never forgive what Sentinel done and neither will Sam, the Autobots, and the 7 Primes.

    • @VictorPerez-lx9tf
      @VictorPerez-lx9tf Месяц назад

      I honestly don't know that it was Sentinel's own ego, his pride, or his hypocrisy that led him to his downfall.

  • @leachblah6313
    @leachblah6313 11 месяцев назад +8

    I searched what Megatron said in this specific scene before he dies. I found out he said "But why". Now I watch this scene again, Megaton's "But why" had me rolling.

    • @aidenpotter5952
      @aidenpotter5952 10 месяцев назад +1

      I thought he said “Brother!” It makes more sense in my opinion for him to say that as megatronus(megatron) and Orion(Optimus) were brothers in arms. Also I don’t think megatron is that pathetic he wouldn’t say that as his “last words”

    • @nategreen4482
      @nategreen4482 Месяц назад

      @@aidenpotter5952 I heard “but fart”

    • @Mister-ti5ce
      @Mister-ti5ce 7 дней назад

      He says what for

  • @siregg9
    @siregg9 2 года назад +37

    For ironhide

  • @leftudead2305
    @leftudead2305 Год назад +3

    My man Optimus killed Sentinel like a live leak video lmao

  • @lucastheTransformersBlitzwing
    @lucastheTransformersBlitzwing 5 месяцев назад +3

    Sentinel Prime Optimus all i ever wanted was a survival of our race you must see why i had to betray you Optimus Prime you didn't betray me you betrayed your self

  • @oox5769
    @oox5769 11 месяцев назад +28

    In terms of strength alone, Optimus will not lose to Sentinel at all, he loses in the choice of weapons. Before tf4, the weapons of optimus are basically as long as his forearm, and his attack distance is also very limited. Furthermore, the sharpness of energy sword and energy ax has always been a big problem. In tf2, the energy sword faces the megatron and the fallen, the thorns are critical but they can’t go in, so sparks come out. tf3 can also reflect this problem. At the beginning, optimus stabbed and slashed at sentinel, but there was no wound, only small sparks. On the other hand, sentinel blocked most of the attacks from optimus with a big same body size shield , with the big same body size double-sided blade not to mention the attack range and the power it is. Under the condition that the energy sword is not sharp enough and has a large shield to defend, Optimus can withstand the violent bombardment of the deceptacon battleship, and can continuously suppress the sentinel, which is already very powerful,even if it is just an ineffective attack..., but If optimus use the weapon configuration of tf4 and tf5 to fight, sentinel would have been beaten to the ground long ago. .

    • @Snoozytube
      @Snoozytube 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah Sentinel had to call for reinforcements on a serious Optimus at the end of TF3 and losing his jet mode

  • @Transformersrule3463
    @Transformersrule3463 9 месяцев назад +3

    “Our planet will survive” idk but that was a fuckin badass quote from sentinel

  • @prussianbirdproductions56
    @prussianbirdproductions56 Год назад +4

    It’s menacing how he smiles after killing his brother and his mentors who both betrayed him the smile of Victor knowing that this is all over

  • @owensharp8340
    @owensharp8340 4 месяца назад +2

    You know, Optimus ripping Megatron in 2 pieces sort of reminds me of what Megatron did to Jazz in the 1st movie.

  • @nbewarwe
    @nbewarwe Год назад +2

    2 you tubers have retroactively made this the funniest cinematic moment I have and will ever see in my life.

  • @robertmason837
    @robertmason837 Месяц назад +5

    Really, Sentinel deserved to die. Ignore war crimes Optimus might have committed. Sentinel killed his Autobot ally Ironhide, killed thousands if not hundreds of humans when Decepticons invaded Earth, and more in the Chicago invasion, planned to enslave humanity and take over the Decepticons from Megatron. He planned to kill his apprentice Optimus Prime, and people said Optimus was ruthless, so Sentinel committed more atrocities.

  • @Yuhyeauhuhsurebuddy1
    @Yuhyeauhuhsurebuddy1 Год назад +4

    To be fair, after he killed him ROTF, Megatron kinda deserved the Thanos treatment.

  • @nintendorakyamato1859
    @nintendorakyamato1859 2 года назад +24

    Fatality

  • @RulaChaos
    @RulaChaos Год назад +5

    SMOKING THAT FUCKING Sentinel!!!!!!!!

  • @rancor4513
    @rancor4513 2 года назад +10

    I feel like if prime really wanted to, he could've wiped out decepticon

  • @ibrahimharris6074
    @ibrahimharris6074 Год назад +7

    Love this Optimus. 🥶🥶🥶 cold blooded.

  • @archangelstormrider3695
    @archangelstormrider3695 23 дня назад +1

    Man, Optimus came back like a champ

  • @sohighsosavage6070
    @sohighsosavage6070 Год назад +4

    Kinda interesting to see how Megatron just stomped and played with Sentinel Prime . Kinda makes me think again that Megatron was the most feared and powerful transformer .. but he got so fed up with revenge and the will to lead planet Earth .. that he lost his strenght in time

  • @benoliver8152
    @benoliver8152 2 года назад +55

    “All I ever wanted was the survival of our race you must see why I had to betray you”
    “You didn’t betray me you betrayed yourself”
    “No optimas ahhhhhh”
    Double shot
    “All I want is to be back in charge besides who would you be without me prime”
    “Time to find out”
    Rip megatons head of his body
    The two most brutal deaths in the transformers bayverse
    Wow optimas prime is brutal when he has got 1 arm
    Sentinel prime and megatron both died due to optimas prime with 1 arm

  • @arasakyar3353
    @arasakyar3353 Год назад +10

    I don't care what anyone says, this scene here is fucking badass as hell and needed to happen lol

  • @Quasar-fv8to
    @Quasar-fv8to 12 дней назад

    That underhand axe throw was so dirty, it was genius. Megatron probably thought he was going to pull it up for an over hand slice after he ran up to him, but no, he just instantly lobs it without any wind up. Took him out instantly when he got real serious.

  • @thebeastking4165
    @thebeastking4165 3 месяца назад +3

    You didn’t betray me you betrayed yourself that’s deep Cuz it something everyone has done even if they didn’t notice

  • @sednaaraujo1117
    @sednaaraujo1117 2 года назад +9

    Sentinel prime 360 move
    Broken ankles
    1 arm lost by optimus
    Megatron shoots 3 shots on Sentinel prime
    Optimus kills Megatron
    Picks up 12 gauge
    Optimus kills Sentinel prime
    Optimus wins✅

  • @henriquedearruda8902
    @henriquedearruda8902 2 года назад +11

    He main antagonist in this movie isn’t even megatron like the first 2 movies.

    • @_somestuff
      @_somestuff 2 года назад +6

      Megatron wasn't the main antagonist in RotF, the Fallen was. He literally called Fallen "master" multiple times.

  • @theshadowprime99
    @theshadowprime99 5 месяцев назад +4

    It felt fuckin good seeing this on the big screen in 2011, I was shouting "Do it Optimus do it for Ironhide!".
    People looked at me like I was autistic but I didn't care xD

  • @tjfilm17th
    @tjfilm17th Год назад +6

    no hesitation no mercy for optimus prime

  • @mathcm0007
    @mathcm0007 Год назад +5

    2:04 this is for ironhide bi###