The Taino myth of the cursed creator - Bill Keegan
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2019
- Dive into the Taino myth of the sea, and watch as Deminan and his brothers accidentally create a new world from a giant gourd.
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Before the world of humans began, there was the world of the gods. Four brothers wandered this celestial realm. One day, the brothers snuck into a spirit’s house and spotted a giant gourd hanging in the corner. But as they tried to look inside the gourd, they dropped it. It broke apart, releasing a deluge that formed a new world. Bill Keegan details the Taino myth of Deminan and the sea.
Lesson by Bill Keegan, directed by Franz Palomares.
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It’s always a pleasure to learn more about the pre “Spanish or vanish” times. So much Taino culture has been destroyed and lost
Lmao "spanish or vanish" im using that
My parents are both from the Dominican and I barely know anything about my family, I know my dad's side has been there forever and my mom's side came from spain. That's it.
Destroyed, lost, but never dead.
@Melkhiordarkblade Well of course such things happened but we can't let such things blind us to the destruction such powers like Spain did, its just dishonest and in these cases with many native myths around such a time, they were wiped clean by the Spaniards, we can't ignore such cruelties and learn not to do such things again!~
Are Tainos native Americans..? Cause they look different and have different culture lol
*"Why am I the only one to be covered in painful scrabs?"*
-Deminan, 10000 BCE
*BCE
You want to stay credible
Herpis
@@biblebot3947 K thanks for letting me know
Your mom is antivax.
@@li_ka2 Deminan didn't have parents.
"he was the link between the celestial and earth realms"
*THAT BOY THE AVATAR*
Dean:*confused* MiShA?
SBBwasaight Vuong IM CACKLING
Ahhahahhaha
But everything changed when Columbus attacked
SBBwasaight Vuong literally the first thing that popped into my head
This is a story recorded from the Magúa tribe in what is now Dominican Republic. The island of Hispaniola alone had 5 distinct Taino tribes when the Spaniards arrived. Cuba, Puerto Rico and Jamaica also had their own Taino tribes with their own stories.
Oh, so that’s why I didn’t recognize any of it, despite being from the Caribbean too.
Cuba has the ciboney taino until it was later overpopulated by the dominican classic tainos😂
@@loysquared same
@@yaboidiego6177 I've seen the booty on cuban women, I don't blame my ancestors for their desire to conquer.
@@Word-Life nah cuz it is not hispaniola no more it is haiti and Dominican republic,we DOMInican gained our independence and we will not fusion unite both island and race. each in their side with they own
As a Dominican, hearing of Taino culture from TedEd is very beautiful.
Same 🇩🇴
Hi Emanuel Diaz, it's a pleasure to know from your culture!
Samee heree 🇩🇴
De lo mio 🇩🇴
A Jamaican here and I, too appreciate this 🇯🇲
myths are one of the best Ted ed videos
I’ll start giving them views when they stop using as perjorative a word as “myths” to describe them
@@TheWolfboy180 myths are not untrue stories they are just tales that doesn't have any historical records which serve as a foundation to a culture
Sure, in one sense, but that’s not how the word is colloquially used, is it :/ It’s like saying “oh, lame means you have a leg that doesn’t work properly, so if you call something lame, it’s not an insult”. ..... please learn how perjorativity works.
@@TheWolfboy180 well I guess you're right
Yeah, but that quote
We the Caribbean people finally geting our lore, myths and ancestry recognized
That is an important first step.
Step 2: Start claiming that those stories are historically and scientifically supported facts.
Step 3: Have more children than average.
Step 4: Wait a few generations
Step 5: Profit! You now have a run of the mill religion that you can use to legally lie to people to take their money. Profit.
@@technolus5742 these stories are about creation we cannot prove what happened in creation
@@technolus5742 I don't believe this you know, but at least show respect to other people's belief
@@alphabetlord5590 No amount of respect has ever been enough to make me complacent towards lies nor misinformation. In fact, if anything, it just makes me less complacent.
@@technolus5742 so your on of those anti theist
The Taino are still here. We are descendants. These are my ancestors as my parents were born in Puerto Rico and so were my family tree.
Mai Sakurajima hahahahhahahahahsh you said the funny word
@Mai Sakurajima In Puerto Rico the Tainos no longer exist so we are taught since we where little that they are apart of our culture because in a way they and the african slaves impacted the carribean with there own food, music, dance, games and much more.
@@graciela615 they live in thru us in what little dna survived and thats why certain puerto ricans still get born with the distinct features of a Taino
You are breed out into the dominant Caucasian Gene. They would be the tribes brought into slavery from the West indi islands.
@@graciela615 Not true there are still Taino villages in the remote mountains, they were forced to hide their identity and culture from outsiders for generations but they still exist and they never forgot who they were.
The indigenous people of the Caribbean and Central America. A lot of their customs and vocabulary still exist in the Caribbean 🇯🇲💖
a lot of english words derive from Tainos as well! Hurricane, barbecue, and hammock all have their origins in Taino society :)
The Caribbean is separate from Central America, the customs of the Taino are completely different from those of the Maya, Aztecs and Inca, I grew up in the Caribbean and no Central American customs or culture were observed or known when I was growing up in Puerto Rico.
@@DavidRodriguez-jt1ns Yet if you go to the amazonian forest, you will see that the culture of some of the indians there is shockingly similar to the taino culture. Taino were actually indians from the amazon forest in South America that migrated to the caribbean and found a home there.
rafto129 Yes Tainos were the Arawak Indians that voyaged to the islands. So originally they were from that Central American area.
@@ToroBravo-qu7ed This is correct, the Taino are a part of the greater Arawak culture which still continues to thrive in the Amazon regions of Venezuela, Colombia, Guyana, French Guyana, Suriname and Brazil. The Taino used the Orinoco River as a passage to the Caribbean over 6 to 12 thousand years ago.
I feel a huge sense of pride as a Puerto Rican descendant of Tainos.
Nice head you have above your shoulders btw
I'm puerto Rican too 🇵🇷. Just learned about the Taíno recently. I always knew I had native blood.
I honestly take more pride in my Spanish heritage, since they made Puerto Rican culture and religion what it is today, but it is interesting to learn what some of my pre-Christian ancestors may have believed.
@@DukeNukenum me too as Jamaican
@@jonquilgemstone yes, Stockholm syndrome is a string thing. We learn to love our captors and their goods, and forget our own spiritual practices.
It is almost scary how many resemblance this story has to origin stories from my ancestral home in Oceania.. Melanesians and Polynesians tell similar stories of the creation. Creation myth is sure intriguing.
If i am not mistaken, amazon amerindians have also australasian dna, which can explain the similarities between myths, as tainos are of arawak descent.
We are all one Tainos and maori are the same the people just wont admit to that real Tainos know the truth
There are some melanesians who came to the Americas by way of traveling before European settlers and some who were enslaved and brought to the Americas many years later after European colonialism started. This is why some of our people of color look like Melanesians too.
@@amariewalenda3801
Maori have nothing to do with Taino. They don't even look similar nor are they in their proximity
@@ryjitarose5590 that's your opinion Tainos in Puerto Rico do look Hawaiians probably not Maori but they do look alike
Not a lot is know of Taino culture, thank you for bringing this up!
It's cool that they included deformed people in their creation myth. It is somewhat true that people with ailments experience the world more differently than most and it is definitely true that their outlook on the world can be very useful. Very wise was whoever gave them a purpose and position in society through the legends that were passed down through time.
As a puertorican, its so interesting seeing the different perspectives of life taínos from different Antilles had even though our indigenous roots are classified as the same! Borincan taíno stories are fairly different and have different cemís. I’d never heard of a certain lineage of people having a connection to cemís like in this story, and this story at all!
Thank you for sharing and explaining our taíno culture💜🇵🇷
Y’all don’t have enough na dna to be claiming taino y’all are Spaniards who got sprinkles of native dna through atrocities
@@Milkdejean A quick google search will tell you a good amount of Taíno DNA still remains today, especially in Puerto Rico. If people are trying to reconnect with their lost & hidden ancestry why does that bother you so much ☠️ Caribbeans in general are a mix of African, Indigenous and Spaniard, so don’t come up in here with the “Y’all are Spaniards who got sprinkles of native DNA through atrocities” As if we weren’t thriving peoples before Columbus even came around lol.
@@oneirodynia8863 a good amount? Majority of the population has less than 15 and you only got that because of colonization. Puerto Rican’s are the colonizers. There’s a reason 70 of the population identify as white. Even the features have no resemblance to native Americans. That island isn’t yours, it’s my ancestors
FYI these are the people who lived in the Carribbean before Columbus came.
EDIT: OMG! Thanks for the likes guys! I never thought I'd get past 1K!
Yeah, I was wondering which part of America were they. Good thing I didn't have to open a new tab with wiki, just scroll down. Thanks Adrian
and before Colombus slaughtered them all for.. reasons?
@@raspite3195 he didn't understand that they had no gold and he thought they were hiding it so he got really angry.
@@raspite3195 It's basically the same motivation Ratcliffe from "Pocahontas" had
We were not completely wiped out, %45 of islanders of Puerto Rico carry Taino-Arawak genes. I am living proof they still wonder the islands, my family has told stories for generations that the “colonizers” couldn’t. My family can be traced back 9 generations in the rainforest town of Naguabo, PR.
I am a descendent and doing my own research as well. My family is from Puerto Rico. As the previous commentator indicated "El Diantre" this Taino myth is different from that of the Tainos of Puerto Rico. It would be good moving forward for individuals to differentiate which Taino location they derive their dances or stories as each varies.
Yes! Borinken has different stories and even dialect but I do love learning from each of the island's lore and traditions. Not in a British accent, though. No offense to whomever created this video.
Aztec, Maya, Taino... Your videos about myths of the cultures of North America are great, please, do more of it! I'd love to hear a story of the Tlingits, the Tairona, the Hopi, the Nawaho, the Inuit or the Aleut from you! (It doesn't need to be one of these, I'm sure you will cope well with anything :-)
Yes! And the Tsimshian😌💫✨💖🌠🌌
As a Jamaican, its good to see a myth about the natives of my island
akeemachan 🇯🇲🇯🇲
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Not myths brother
akeemachan Not a myth hermano, that’s what they want us to believe lol🌀🍃☀️
I’m Dominican and I’ve never heard about this. Cool.
It's out of a text from a Fraile called Ramón Pane
omg me too
I am Jamaican and Carib history is important 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇵🇷🇩🇴🇨🇺
Most Dominicans to busy tryna be another race of people.
Hopefully more research will be done into our Native American heritage as time goes back, we may perhaps be able to get our native culture back some day.
We have always lived. 🇵🇷 🇯🇲 🇩🇴 🇩🇲 🇦🇼 🇨🇼 🇹🇹 🇱🇨 🇻🇮 🇲🇶 We are Taino.
@Stanley Dougé you are right because Trinidad and Tobago, Barbados, and Dominica are of that respective tribe. The most important part is recognition that we are all stemmed to the Carib community and originate from South America before seafaring to different lands.
@@JRF1366 what about cuba?
Please more of the Taino myths, thank you for this!!!!
You guys are good people, thank you.
Turtle:casually comes out of a wound
VSCO girls: wtf
Why VSCO girls?
@@THExRISER idk😅
Eboys: shaking
THE RISER SaVe ThE tUrTlEs!!!11!111!! Or at least I think that’s why
:o
I'm Dominican and it's great to see my people represented on Ted ED, thank you
Too bad we are being truly being wiped out due to the increasing numbers of Haitians taking over the country. I no longer see the face of my people when they show a Dominican on TV shows, the news, etc. Puerto Ricans and Dominicans were originally the same people, not true anymore.
@Stanley Dougé You are correct.
@@XxAlexanderProxx well tell European/ White peoples that they the one who captured us Haitican from West Africa
0:21 "Me and the boys about to build the world..."
KARS ,WAMU ,AC/DC waking up after 2000 years
The oldest tale of me and the boys😂😂😂
I love that TED Ed is sharing more content about the mythology of the native peoples across the Americas. Its not really heard a lot formally.
I can already imagine Rick Riordan writing a series about this.
Yes! I was thinking the same 🤭
@@Keish03 When we found out Reyna (from Rick's Heroes of Olympus series) was Puerto Rican and he mentioned some of the food and the coqui, I remember crying and loving him as an author even more than before. I was so excited, I couldn't shut up about it. If he learned more mythology from other cultures, I'd read it all.
KeiAr Taíno people were not only from Puerto Rico, they also lived in my country Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 and Cuba
i love reading rick riordan
😍😍😍😍
As a Dominican I feel really honored that you guys made a video about my forgotten ancestors
More Ancient myths and legends pleaseeeeee 😍♥ Thank you Ted Ed.
agreed
yes especially the Aztec's mythology like the Pillarmen
I like how you tell us all the myths of ancient civilizations of our earth👍
Truly mind blowing 🤯
I’m half Puerto Rican and half Chilean, so I’m happy to know about a legend from my island where I was born
Actually the Taino peoples are from the Hispaniola island, present day Haiti and the Dominican Republic, natives from Puerto Rico are known as Boricuas. So don't know how much of this myth was known to the Boricuas
@@danielrondon1013 The Taíno were an indigenous people of the Caribbean. At the time of European contact in the late fifteenth century, they were the principal inhabitants of most of Cuba, Hispaniola, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, The Bahamas and the northern Lesser Antilles. Long before the Spanish Crown colonised the island of Puerto Rico the island belonged to the Taino Indians. They named the island Borikén, Boriquén o Borinquen. Borikén (Boricuas) is a taino word that translates to - Land of the courageous (or proud) Lord. - The more you know... 😉
@@RICOFRITO thanks for clarifying, now I know where my misconception came from ; )
I'm also half Chilean and Puerto Rican, very cool.
Daniel Rondón they were called caribs before they were known as boricuas 😬
"They cut opet the welt... A turtle emarged." Never what you think it's gonna be 🤣🤣🤣
Details are mad random lol
i was just about to sleep when i got notif for this video, I gave in and watched this right away
i was about to study then i was like, nah this is more important, lol. I love learning interesting things for fun and not grades.
I absolutely love history and mythology so videos like yours are the best!
_Why don't you cover the legendary 6th question of Putnam test._
Buy a man a cola, that’s what I heard when grandpa was mentioned
i love ted-ed's myth videos so much
it gives me a temporary break from by history hw
lol me 2
This series is such a blessing, thank you for sharing these myths from around human civilization with us 🙏🏽😄
A proud descendent of Taínos 🇵🇷🇩🇴
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More Taino Indian and Puerto Rican myths and more please and thank you 🙏
My family being Dominican love our Taino ancestry and they have told me many stories like this and taught me my ancestors music and way of life
It's always refreshing to learn a little more of the taino history of my island, great video!
Sick video once again teded! Love the animation!
Ted Ed back with another beautiful video!
Oh my heart.....thank you for representing my culture ♥
TedEd is honestly one of the most exemplary information services. It's so wide in its content and it provides brevity to all topics it covers with so much passion and aura.
Thank you for including this!
Thanks for sharing something about our ancestors in Puerto Rico (Borinquen in Taino) and the rest of the Caribbean.
Thank u so much! I have tiano in my blood and this was so interesting! There’s not much out there about the past but I managed to find a few books.
This reminds me so much of Ursula k. Le Guin's character, Selver, from "The World from World is Forest" and, man, that in itself changes so much after watching this video. I don't know whether it was inspired by this or other similar myths but the insight really does provide context to Selver's role as a translator of death.
The starting quote for today is awesome..
And animation is excelllent
Thanks for sharing ted-ed
Thanks for this! Happy to see our culture being spread ❤
This myth is very familiar with Hinduism and Buddhism cosmology!
In this cosmology they said our universe, human realm, have divided into 4 continents and all of this is flowed over the ocean.
They also tell us about how our universe forming.
This sound like this myth very much! they are 4 brothers(4 continents?)
They are once together in god's hut and then they break god's gourd, it fell and splashed all of them and flooded with massive wave of water (this part can referred to big bang?)
They can't go back to god's hut or celestial realm anymore (they left from higher realm to this human realm and they can't go back?)
Their mother, earth mother, died from the moment that they are born (so now this 4 brothers is 4 earth deities or 4 parts of the earth mother - Is this big bang?)
This myth said that Derminian, the first son, have scars and wounds(imperfect and impurity?) maybe he is personification of Jambudvīpa?, our earth, the blessed and cursed. People of this earth have special ability to connect with celestial realm(connect with nirvana or upper realm?) but also suffer from illness(suffer from uncertainty?)
From all of this, it seems familiar in my opinion. How this myth from other side of the world make their myths or legends very related!
This is the story that never untold? Is there something that wait us to discover?? Somehow some parts of legend is very similar with scientific discovery in some perspective...
(sorry for grammar and my delusional opinions, lol)
Blessings to All and ALL!!! !!! !!! Proud to be a Taino....
The "yaya" or a "cemí" is where the taínos believed the spirit of the gods and loved ones resided. They would set a place for them inside there home for safety and good luck. As a puertorriquen I am very thankful that @TEDxtalks took the time to do this.
So how many gods just have an ocean lying around their house?
Lol maybe the myth has 9 of them...for each planet
To be honest, people did trip hard in the olden days, and all over the world.
The Universe is amazing. It gives me exactly what you need, when you need it.
I think I’m a 4th brother, and that makes SO much sense. Deep down somewhere I already knew it though...
But I asked the Universe this specifically (regarding my skin, why me, etc). The last two weeks have been the hardest thing I’ve gone thru. But my intuition and knowing got HELLA strong when I was devoid of everything else. Drugs, chemicals, sound, smell, touch, etc. Very much a conduit for the spiritual realm and this side 🌀
Amazing.
Loved every second of this.
Man finally, myths about the Taino culture, as citizen of Puerto Rico, I approve this. Would love to see more though.
Interesting to see an aspect of my culture since so much of it is no more
Great video, Proud to see this here. I would love to hear the Taino Myth of the God of Destruction Juracan, where the word Hurricane came from.
I am Taino and i love the stories from my culture its truely amazing
Again with the wonderful hidden myths/folklore. Where do they find them? ❤️
Hey! Ted ed please make a video on the history and foundation of ISRO.
Rarely get to see representation of taino myths and culture. Thank you for this :)
Wow! I am Puerto Rican, so I am part Taino and I had never heard about that myth. Amazing!
Don't know why you're covering Taino and Dominican culture but thank you for this Ted Ed :)
How do you edit it’s really cool
I am so happy to see my ancestors' the Tainos being represented and their myths being told. So much has been lost and this brings me a lot of joy. 🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷❤❤❤❤
I love this TED-Ed videos so much
My mother is Puerto Rican with some Taino ancestry 😁👌
2:19 I have absolutely NO words
NICE! Ted talking about my ancestors.
the animations are next level
How about our present and widespread myths? I want to hear about those too.
Where I can find the source material for this?
This narrator's voice is just amazing
Half-Dominican here, thank you for kindling an interest in reclaiming my heritage 🇩🇴
Ocean is from a gourd and marine creatures are from a man's scabs 😳
You heard it right
Ted Ed is better than real school
Do more Taíno!
I just love your channel
As a puertorican, first time i hear this story. I know of the cemis ( the triangular objects) and plenty of the taino culture here but of this one nothing.
Pretty cool
Is it just me or is this guy the first avatar wan?
Whaaat. I want to know more!! It is so intriguing
If only everyone could animate like this.
So does that imply that a lot of healers and shamans have inflictions themselfes and have to overcome them before they get good healers? I ask myself why most healers and seers in mythology are always cursed
There's always a price to pay for the gift of knowledge. The divine smith is lame; divine healers are wounded.
In some shamanic cultures, a serious sickness is a necessary sign of their calling. Even where it isn't, there are initiatory rites where they go through a symbolic sickness and death (typically along with a good measure of physical suffering). They must heal themselves before healing others.
Just wanted to say thank you for using "snuck" instead of "sneaked".
Great to hear some of our taino legends come out to the world :D Hi from Dominican Republic!
This is a beautiful animation style
Oh yeah we had a ton of plants with DMT
I hardly able to understand all words... Still enjoyed...
The more videos you'll watch, and the better you'll get at English! I believe in you !
I think u got me wrong.. I said that type of religion and myth I don't know what is it... Are strange for me😅
@@harshsingh1578 woops, my bad, sorry :'D
@@erzsblasfantaven3334 it's ok🤗
I love the voice and the accent of the narrator so much ❤❤
Thank you for this! 🇩🇴
Careful, I think that elder is a Phyrexian.
Thank you for this video 😊 🇭🇹
This one just blew my mind
Similar myths are also told in the Caribbean Bahamas here. my grandmother told me so many stories.