Milling Of A Offset Spiral Part
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- This is just the machining of the part. If there is interest I will make a video explaining the thought/planning and execution of the setup. Let me know in the comments if that's of interest. Thanks!
Amazing to see you back, Peter! Your videos always feel like a dip into science fiction, both in these huge complex parts I'll probably never see in real life, and in the mind-bending machining it takes to create them.
Good to see a video... Love seeing the Mazak run, but also appreciate hearing your thoughts, plans and narration
I like to consider myself a good all around machinist and every video you make humbles me a bit. You’re truly a craftsman. Always a great watch
If I have one gift this season this will do just fine. Thank you Peter, you have been sorely missed
You work on stuff with such unusual shapes, fascinating.
Thanks for the video Peter, I was looking forward to you posting. I have gone back to many of your videos throughout the past few years/since starting my own shop. I got Esprit this spring for a mill-turn I purchased, and that has honed me in even more on how knowledgeable you are. Amazing work 👍
Love the video! As a machinist who makes fairly simple parts it is fun watching the masterpieces that you make! Keep up the awesome content!
You have been missed Sir. 👍
As a machinist myself, you’re an artist.
Definitely interested in whatever you want to put out there. Crazy machining going on there.
Odd, I had just searched your channel for a new video just yesterday 👍
you are a gifted machinist peter
Nice to see you posting again. What a bizarre-looking part..... and I expect challenging too.
This is the most incredible thing I have ever seen made by man or machine. What does the part do? Thanks for posting this.
Good to have you back.
Beautiful
yes...setup and planning is best part of your videos. Real world parts.
Those are some funky spiraly milling patterns
Good to have you back. I have always learnt from your thought process and planning, So yes, I'm up for a video on the setup.
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Love to see the forethought in this setup😊
I am glad to see you back on Yuotube. i for one would really like to leqrn more about the toolpaths here.
thats alot to think and prepare before run the machine. Great mind ! i believe AI cant have this kind of intelligent . Greeting from a Malaysia machine shop.
Awesome video Peter!
It would be interest to know what the part is. At the moment, I haven't a clue. Obviously I am not a machinist. I am very amazed of the process for sure.
Very interesting setup!
Another awesome video! Thank you Peter!!! Question for you, did you have to clock/time the jaws on the 4-jaw so the head cleared when it was tilted over towards the main spindle, on the 5X swarf cut?
The reason I made the extended fixture in the 4-jaw chuck was for clearance to do the 5-axis cuts. I did take note of the chuck jaws in the cam software for collisions. In Esprit TNG if you model all that accurately it will take all that into account with the machines model for collisions in the simulation. I’m going to make a video on this setup to explain this and other things in more detail. Thanks!
I was going to guess that this is a petroleum industry drilling rig item but then it would probably be proprietary but then you wouldn’t be able to share the video. Curious to see the follow up video on the set up.
have you thought about using the Iscar lens-shaped/barrel mills?
What is the purpose of the tabs? Is that section to be removed at a later time by the customer?
That's insane. I hope you charge a s**tload of money for making that!
high level
Man, what a nightmare. Hope they paid you a fortune for this one.
For cutting paper or what?
Please come back to making regular content! Sounds like things changed around a bit at centreline, any chance of a catchup video?
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Peter, I know you mentioned 17-4PH for the material in the comments, but when you are stating speeds and feeds in a vid please try to reference the material.
Ok I’ll keep that in mind.
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Has anyone tried making music with CnC machines?
Look at this video. ruclips.net/video/WGTezZmo1Cc/видео.html
When you grow up making things by running the machine with my own hands on the wheels and levers, watching a robot make things hidden behind a cloud of coolant just has no interest at all.
As a machinist myself and also an Esprit user, I’d love to learn more about tool path and machine setup. It would be helpful for me
OK I think I will work on one. Thanks!
yeah, seeing the feeds and speeds etc was really helpful too.@@EdgePrecision
@@demandred1957although I need flute number on all of ‘em!! I gotta know the chipload 😅
It would be great to see a video about the planning that had to be done before the machining. Thanks.
Your ability to think outside the box has always impressed me. As a machinist I am inspired by your approach. Keep it up 👍🏻
Peter breaks the box
Hope you are well Peter? Nice to see the most detailed machine work on the net.
Merry xmas from the UK
Man, I'm so jealous of the work you do. You're a mastermind, and your work is insanely complex. You're repping Mazak quite nicely. If I were them, I would ship you out a brand new integrex to play with. Brilliant man you are.
So good to see you back Peter, a Merry Christmas and an Happy and Healthy New Year to you and yours Sir.
That looks perfect for your ice machine 😂
You would think that the OD of those helix ribs would fit something. But their OD isn't round (It's hard to see). Then it's spit to fit over something (I didn't show cutting out the slug where the tabs are) and held to it with the 1/2-13 setscrews on the ends. So what it does?
Glad to see you back, hope you and your family are doing well. I'm definitely interested in a video on the setup, especially those set screws you were installing at the start. It looked like you were screwing a smaller set screw into the larger one, I'd like to know more about that bit. What was the material?
EDIT: Now that I had a chance to play it back frame by frame on my laptop, I can see that the larger screws are dog point set screws and the smaller ones are socket head cap screws with the head OD turned down.
I will describe that in more detail in the setup video. Thanks!
Please add more details on the set screw in a set screw! Fantastic to have you back. I always learn something new by watching your videos.
@@EdgePrecision Looking forward to it!
@@larryblount3358 i believe that is a way to lock the set screws in place.When you insert the smaller one and tighten it, its presses back on the larger one creating tension and therefore wont unthread.
I sure appreciate your content, I always learn something , thank you.
Always, always, always interested in seeing the thought/planning behind one of your parts!
I’m a simple man. I see Pete upload a new video. I click. I watch. I learn…a lot. Thank you for sharing your skills with us. Merry Christmas!
without a doubt that is the strangest piece of machining I have ever seen. I have no idea what it could be for. Yes, I would like to know how you set up the tooling for this job. I wonder did it keep you up nights figuring it out? As always, another great CNC Video. KOKO!
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Happy to see your work again 💪🏾. I would like to see and learn about the strategies in CAM regarding this work.
Greetings.
Do you have to provide a quote for these kind of jobs, or is it time and material? Seems about impossible to estimate time for something like this.
No I didn’t quote this job.
very happy to see your back to this channel! what a great part to figure out and make. Would have loved to see you do a sped up, dry (air)cutting of the finished part to be able to follow. But then again, watching and wondering was like a kid on Christmas morning unwrapping a big present - imagination going wild. Thanks for the gift Peter and I hope you and yours have a merry Christmas !
Always makes my day when you post a new video. I've worked at a few workshops here in NZ but have never been exposed to this kind of tricky work, super interesting and impressive seeing how you machine parts like these.
I really enjoy your videos. You are hands down the best machinist on and off RUclips. You make it look so easy the way you machine complex parts. It would be great so see a video explaining the thought/planning and execution of the setup. Thank you.
Fascinating stuff, it's like watching a magic trick, as the object takes shape.
Simply excellent to see this cnc work done by Peter on that whopper Mazak.. No typical RUclips "content" fluff, just machinist excellence in too many ways.
Good to see you back Peter! I am definitely interested in a video explaining the planning and execution of the setup!
I would be interested in the details of your approach to this part, it has some unusual geometry.
To do these jobs as one offs is amazing! I used to run a manual Colchester triumph lathe back in the day and I've never encountered any as skilled as yourself.
I'm beneath you, I use a Colchester Student.
What it does exactly I have no idea, but a quarter-scale one would make a great conversation piece. Happy holidays Peter! See you in the new year!
You are a true artist Peter, I for one would love to see the thought process behind making such a complex part. Glad to see you back on youtube.
Please make the video. I'm interested. Thanks in advance!
Welcome back, Peter. I was getting cocky at work. There's nothing like watching one of your videos to put me back in my place. Merry Christmas, my friend.
I wish I knew what this is for. I'd love to see it installed and in use.
Very exciting machining, as a Mazak man, I saw this video when I was about to go to the bathroom, then decided to watch it to the end! Guess what, the feeling for a dash to the bathroom is gone!!! Anything you are making on this Mazak is amazing.
Any guesses? I'm thinking it is a grinder/ food processor?
Sorry I really don't know what this part does.
A set screw in a set screw. Only the Best here!
You make that feed / mixing shaft project look simple
interesting setup of set screw in a set screw!
I should have took a photo of the special set screws. There is a turned diameter that fits precisely in a bore in the hole to locate the part. Then the small screw keeps them from backing out during machining. They aren't used for holding the part to the fixture, just to locate it.
@@EdgePrecision Very interesting.
WOW! I am a total noob to this space, relatively speaking, only having watched channels like ABOM (Also super awesome, just less CNC stuff) and I would NEVER think that you could have such a dramatically imbalanced piece of steel chucked up and do an interrupted cut like that!!! That's in-freakin-credible!!! Thank you so much for uploading!!!
What maniac dreamed up that part. So,cool,machining
Is this component going to be internally cooled/lubricated? I'm just asking because of the holes you made for EDM. The process you have used for this component is relatively straightforward. Lovely machining all around, I would like to add.
I wonder what this is going to be used for, something that seem to be used to compress something or such.
Such a great finish with the overlapping radiussed paths. I sometimes have the idea to do the same in a part design, but in CAD it is often a lot of work to model it. How would you specify? Or otherwise phrased: how do you want to have the part designed to make this kind of texture possible?
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. When milling on the OD of a round part this way with a bullmill. It is really milling a series of flats (Not a perfect surface) If the step over of the tool path is very small it gets better but that take a lot of time to do. So its really a economic decision. How much time do you want to spend for what benefit. The modeling of the part is the same for both it is the cam software tool path that determines this.
@@EdgePrecision As an engineer I want control over the finish quality. How would I specify the tool radius and paths? Where does the tolerance lie? On the tops of the milling tracks? Surface roughness definition is different than normal too.
Maybe I will visit a machine shop and sit behind the CAM computer to see the possibilities.
Typically surface finish is specified on the drawing as well as the actual dimension tolerances. This can't really be in the solid model of the part. Or at least not at this time. When you dimension the part during modeling this will show on the drawing when you make it. But the solid model will just be to one size of that feature. This is why you have to be careful when programming from a solid model. You need to check the actual sizes of the modeled features to make sure your machining strategies are compatible with the finished parts tolerance. Often a part will be dimension-ed on it's drawing to a plus or minus tolerance but the actual feature on the solid will be totally on one side of that tolerance. Surface finish cannot (As far as I know) be specified in a solid model. It has to be on the drawing.
@@EdgePrecision Okay, so you, as a machinist, can live with this uncertainty.
I once modeled a guide roller surface with the exact required tip radius and pitch. That worked on a cylindrical part, but on more complicated stuff it quickly becomes a nuisance to model.
The model has to accurate to the tolerance, location and directions. So if there is a radius you want or a pitch it has to be accurate in the model. For instance your guide roller actual dimensions. But surface finish can't be specified in a solid model. Lets say weather it is machines and then ground to finish dimension. This can only be noted on the drawing. Unless it is so coarse as to be separate features on it's own. How you model it is of no consequence to the machinist. The part has to match the drawing not the model of the part. Maybe I'm not understanding what you are referring to about uncertainty? There can be no uncertainty as to the finish and size. According to the drawing. But some things can't be specified in just a solid model. You always need a drawing as well.
Super impressive Peter. Your programming ability is impeccable.
Welcome back Peter. Your absence was way too long.
Wow! How long does a part like this take to complete, from CAD drawing to final product?
The customer supplied a solid model of the part. On the drawing they even say to machine the part to their model. As for the programming and fixturing that took about a week. The part will take about 20 hours to machine complete.
Glad to see you’re still making chips. Thought maybe you retired to your property down in Mexico ! Very interesting part, looks to be some kinda of shear roller.
As an example like 13:55, do you just totally trust the cam/post at this point or are you eyeballin on new setups still. Unless you had to time the jaws !!
I recently got the opportunity to work on a DMG CTX 2000 TC, and I can't tell you how much I learned from your videos I could bring to bear on this machine; thank you for all your great insights and tips!
In what softwere did you program these or did you program in mazatrol ? thank you
I used Cam software. Esprit TNG.
BEAUTIFUL!
very good job Peter..thanks fpor your time
swarf ( if that is the correct word ) Hey and the shoulder cam work awesome recovery ?🎗
Imagine how bad it would suck if the no go thread gauge had screwed into that hole.
Is there any maintenance at all for the Mazak? I mean, scheduled maintenance, yearly or so, or broken parts that need replacing?
Yes there is a oil change interval and to grease some things. Also the spindle, way/lead screw and C axis lube systems.
Vaia trabajo mas coulo que pa que un saludo ion bravo👍💪👏👏👏
Bravo Peter. That reminds me I have some parts I no-quoted today that you might be crazy enough to make. I'd be happy to pass them along if you're interested.
Sounds like pre-hardened material. 17-4PH?
Yes it is 17-4PH. I think H1075.
How long did it take you to create the workpiece?
Is the Order only one workpiece?
I turn with a „Traub“ cnc lathe in germany
Sry for my Bad english 😅
The order is for three pieces. To make all the setups (This video only shows the second one, there are three) And the various parts/fixtures, programming. Took about a week. It take about 20 hours of machine time for each parts three operations. That's all roughly because I did it all while doing other things at the same time. But that may give you an idea.
Great to see you back when you can. Happy new year sir.
Pleeeaaase, I implore somebody to let me know what this part is for?
Don't you use a torque wrench to make sure the clamping force of the screws is the same, and thus you get correct location?
Or is the fixture fit so tight it's good enough by hand?
The screws don’t need to be tight. In fact I don’t want them tight. That’s why the smaller cap screw inside them to lock them in place. They have a turned diameter on their ends that locates the part. I will explain the in more detail in the next video on this parts planing and setup.
I have not seen you in awhile
And I thought you quit making videos
No but. I need to make a video explaining some changes here.
Feliz Navidad Peter to you and yours. Another great video showing your skills. I bet all that point milling took a while. Curious about how long it took. I would echo the interest in a setup/planning video. Hope your shoulder/arm is coming along well. Keep up the good work, y`all have have a nice day. Thanx.
Awesome video great to see you back at RUclips. Hope all is well.
Nice Work