The unique interactions tab of this video is precisely what I've been searching for. I appreciate the in depth nature of this video, something you don't see everywhere
That class item combo is goated. Works well w other build variations too. People sleep on HoiL but once you start using it you won’t want to take it off.
Cheers! I've made a promise with myself to stay away from the buzz words. People love calling their builds broken, busted or having "infinite" abilities 😅
I'd still take facet of purpose, since you have a stasis super, you can stack frost armor with woven mail. You'll get a void overshield from Void Hegemony from the artifact. Plus, I like to pair it with Ex Diris for an easy way to get amplified. You'll literally be unkillable!
One of the really nice things about this setup is that it's suuuper flexible, but I'll try that out, sounds interesting which is what I'm aiming for in the builds
I’ve been using a utility style hunter and having the most luck, it doesn’t one shot or have the best dps rotation, however it out performa in kills and orbs generated in all pve content I’ve done so far! Its very similar to this build so I’ve made the change using the coyote version and its performing really well. I’m saying that this build is ideal for multi use and ease to tweak! I’ve been searching everywhere for a build video like this and you’ve done an unreal job! Thank you kindly for your time and energy
I am really enjoying this build! I’ve always loved the witherhoard, and it pairs so well with the duskfield grenade and snare bomb. Best usage of the Inmost + Cyrt by far. Most fun and effective build I’ve used in a while!
Great video man. The information was well presented and the reasoning was sound. I like the inclusion of awakening as I have never really used it nor seen others use it and I am seeing its potential a bit more now. Also I am pretty sure frost armor and woven mail stack, so I could see some people running purpose along with woven mail for even more survivability in hard content.
Its ALWAYS the youtubers with low subscribers! NICE build man!! Thank you im gonna try this today. Ill check out some other vids, if their dope ill sub 💪💯
This build is amazing but I decided to switch out Witherhoard instead for Choir of One. For my primary, I'm using Midnight Coup with Firefly + Kinetic Tremors (good for ad-clear and yellow bars) and Choir of One for good burst damage. Overall great build though!!
Ye, renewal/coyote was another version I tested as the frost armour stacks meant I could take off purpose but still benefit from hope. Didn't end up making the cut in the end but still a really cool version of this build
Just a heads up, this build was partly inspired by a video I saw on a solo GM a couple of weeks ago, and partly from having pretty much the same idea knocking round my head for a little while but it was too cool of a build to not make a video on. That vids linked in the description and is probably the best demonstration of this build, so if you get the chance to, go check it out and show some love!
hoona my goat! As a hunter main i was actually not that excited when it came to prismatic, like none of the builds really excited me. I just found myself going to Arc for Gifted Conviction or Solar for CN+GG+SH combo since its more comfortable for me. Finally a build that gets me excited to play Prismatic on my hunter. Now to find the mythical 1/64 cloak, Pray for my sanity.
Nice, I'm really wanting these videos to try show off stuff that's not "typical" for what people expect from the subclass so its neat to hear that. Gl on the farms too! I pray rng's with you👃
Another banger, i gotta sub. Also I used this build because im a hunter main, but i found myself enjoying warlock more.... until i found this. I personally use outbreak perfected instead of witherhoard because outbreak tears champs up and spreads to ads but ill try witherhoard one day. Secondly, i found my duskfield shatters were giving me cure with mending. But once again beast build.
I'd probably take gunpowder gamble instead of threaded specter, since throwing your improvised Solar explosive also counts for spirit of inmost light! It also allows you to get wovem mail more often from spirit of cyrtarachne!
@@Polish_Sausage__any elemental debuff damage, defeating targets with abilities or solar weapon kills. So pretty much anything in the kit that’s shown will proc it like almost every other enemy
I use cyrtarachne with gpg in a build. Needing immost light for perfect but yeah you can get 30s of woven mail through your base grenade, gpg grenade and transcendent grenade 🙌🏼
Very thorough. I really appreciated that you took the alternate version of the build all the way through and we’re able to get into the nuances of its use vs. if you have the right exotic class item. Earned a sub from me!
It's an interesting build concept: a trapper style build that excels in DoT. I've started experimenting with my own iteration of the build whilst I wait for the god roll class item to land. I have found, though, that I prefer lost signal, red death and palmera-b as my weapon loadout as I can economise elemental mods to work on more weapons whilst allowing for cure to have a more consistent uptime.
Although I haven't tested red death with this setup, during my playtime with the build healclip always felt super good imo. Stacked on top of woven mail made the healing feel way more impactful
@KahoonaBahoona yeah I found heal clip to suit my playstyle better too. I happened upon a heal clip/attrition orbs parabellum which help fixes the healing issue as well as mitigates the orb gen problem I found with prismatic as a whole (i found that they comparatively have less orb gen options compared to the mono-classes). The smg also just suits the shorter-ish ranges my version of the build tends to prefer. So funnily, thus may be the only build I field that doesn't use an exotic weapon. BTW my build currently lacks the god roll class item, so I'm having to make do with only regular resistance. Meaning the extra orbs to proc recuperation/purpose for frost armour is a godsend.
Very nice build, will give it a try. The original gameplay video you linked was awesome, I can see why you were inspired by it. He's posted up the Warden GM too now. Of course, I'll give Witherhoard a go, but I was also thinking about Lost Signal + Red Death as an alternative. This would allow you to drop Facet of Mending and take Balance, for example.
@@KahoonaBahoona I'm definitely interested in seeing how Lost Signal + Creeping Chill artifact perk works out. Lots of synergy in this build, I like it.
For me, I really like playing aggro, and especially in a lot of high end content, threaded spectre lets me get away with it. Plus as you're spending so much time in transcendence, and as transcendence is so easy to get back with this setup it never felt like it was having a massive impact in the build. Extra fragment slots nice too
When you were listing all the sources of DR in the build, you also listed Frost Armor. However, I don't see anything that gives this build Frost Armor. Where would that be coming from without Facet of Purpose?
Yep, Frost Armours coming from Purpose, but you only want to run purpose if you've only got a coyote roll as it's trying to be a kind of replacement for woven mail that you lose by not having cyrterachne
How much better is witherhoard for this compared to lost signal? Im theorycrafting a version of this for when i get inmost/cyrtarachne, and i think i want dragon's breath for the exotic slot, especially with the artifact mod coming soon that buffs ignitions
Lost signal will still work really well and that combo you said is light and dark so you shouldn't lose out on too much transcendence. Otherwise just switch up grace and kinetic siphon and you'll be golden
@@KahoonaBahoona thanks for the reply. Im also thinking that since dragon's breath can stun unstops, ill take the arc grenade with the jolting fragment, that way i can still stun overloads and should have high amplified uptime, meaning even more DR with galvanic armor. Plus it'll be another way to proc facet of mending
@@pattyotkyeah that could work although it moves a bit away from the "trapper" idea of the build. Although don't let anyone, especially me tell you what you should and shouldn't run. Imo, that's what keeps the game fresh
I got 5 inmost light+ cyrtarachne and dismantled 4 of them. I almost deleted this last one cause it’s not what I’m after. I’ll try this build out thanks to u
I said I got 5 identical rolls. I deleted 4. Kept one. What good does the extra 4 do for me? If it’s something I don’t care for I’ll delete it. 🤷🏻♂️ That’s just me.
@@KahoonaBahoona Hey boss, I know I'm asking a lot of questions. But, can you give me some pointers for a build I'm trying to make? I have an idea, but don't know how to go about it. I'll tell you the concept: It's a prismatic titan (preferably) that focuses on controlling the battlefield. It uses hoarfrost z and uses the aspects drengr's lash and diamond lance. The only things I can think of is using class ability mods and facet of hope. I feel like I'm onto something (given the titan buffs coming out in revenant), but could use all the help I can get. BTW, I'm a solo player, so getting the exotic class items is going to be nigh impossible.
Ye, I would like to see some changes to acquisition for the class items but at the minute, the in game lfg is pretty good and there're a bunch of community discord servers that have lfgs, so there're definitely ways to get around it not having matchmaking if you're mostly a solo player
The unique interactions tab of this video is precisely what I've been searching for.
I appreciate the in depth nature of this video, something you don't see everywhere
That class item combo is goated. Works well w other build variations too. People sleep on HoiL but once you start using it you won’t want to take it off.
Especially with how many abilities hunters get to cheat out already, it's pretty strong
Thanks for the video. I am glad you are not click baiting and using stupid thumbnails. Informative and correct. ❤
Cheers! I've made a promise with myself to stay away from the buzz words. People love calling their builds broken, busted or having "infinite" abilities 😅
I'd still take facet of purpose, since you have a stasis super, you can stack frost armor with woven mail. You'll get a void overshield from Void Hegemony from the artifact. Plus, I like to pair it with Ex Diris for an easy way to get amplified. You'll literally be unkillable!
One of the really nice things about this setup is that it's suuuper flexible, but I'll try that out, sounds interesting which is what I'm aiming for in the builds
@@KahoonaBahoona Did you try it out, and was it effective?
I would line to know as well.
I’ve been using a utility style hunter and having the most luck, it doesn’t one shot or have the best dps rotation, however it out performa in kills and orbs generated in all pve content I’ve done so far! Its very similar to this build so I’ve made the change using the coyote version and its performing really well. I’m saying that this build is ideal for multi use and ease to tweak! I’ve been searching everywhere for a build video like this and you’ve done an unreal job! Thank you kindly for your time and energy
No worries, glad this was the kinda thing you were looking for!
I am really enjoying this build! I’ve always loved the witherhoard, and it pairs so well with the duskfield grenade and snare bomb. Best usage of the Inmost + Cyrt by far.
Most fun and effective build I’ve used in a while!
Cheers! Glad you liked it
Great video man. The information was well presented and the reasoning was sound. I like the inclusion of awakening as I have never really used it nor seen others use it and I am seeing its potential a bit more now. Also I am pretty sure frost armor and woven mail stack, so I could see some people running purpose along with woven mail for even more survivability in hard content.
Cheers! Awakening for sure is something I'm going to try to use more in some future ability spammy setups
A different take on the prism hunter. Thanks for the idea. I hope to get the clas item soon
Cheers! Gl on the farm
Its ALWAYS the youtubers with low subscribers! NICE build man!! Thank you im gonna try this today. Ill check out some other vids, if their dope ill sub 💪💯
Cheers! Hope you enjoy the builds
This build is amazing but I decided to switch out Witherhoard instead for Choir of One. For my primary, I'm using Midnight Coup with Firefly + Kinetic Tremors (good for ad-clear and yellow bars) and Choir of One for good burst damage. Overall great build though!!
Spirit of Renewal / Spirit of Cyrterachnes is another cool roll for this. Even more DR and nerfing the enemy’s output.
Ye, renewal/coyote was another version I tested as the frost armour stacks meant I could take off purpose but still benefit from hope.
Didn't end up making the cut in the end but still a really cool version of this build
love how u explain, i really learned some stuff from you...u have my sub
Cheers!
Just a heads up, this build was partly inspired by a video I saw on a solo GM a couple of weeks ago, and partly from having pretty much the same idea knocking round my head for a little while but it was too cool of a build to not make a video on.
That vids linked in the description and is probably the best demonstration of this build, so if you get the chance to, go check it out and show some love!
hoona my goat! As a hunter main i was actually not that excited when it came to prismatic, like none of the builds really excited me. I just found myself going to Arc for Gifted Conviction or Solar for CN+GG+SH combo since its more comfortable for me. Finally a build that gets me excited to play Prismatic on my hunter. Now to find the mythical 1/64 cloak, Pray for my sanity.
Nice, I'm really wanting these videos to try show off stuff that's not "typical" for what people expect from the subclass so its neat to hear that. Gl on the farms too! I pray rng's with you👃
The DoT effect on smoke refreshing inmost also applies to warlocks incinerator snap scorch, if you don’t trigger an ignition
Yeah, I found that out just recently actually. Ended up making a build that talked about that exact thing
your hunter is swagged out.
It's the true endgame
Another banger, i gotta sub. Also I used this build because im a hunter main, but i found myself enjoying warlock more.... until i found this. I personally use outbreak perfected instead of witherhoard because outbreak tears champs up and spreads to ads but ill try witherhoard one day. Secondly, i found my duskfield shatters were giving me cure with mending. But once again beast build.
Cheers for the sub! and yeah, outbreak is eating good rn
@@KahoonaBahoona I can't seem to take outbreak off honestly lol
Just found your channel on my fyp and subbed bcuz I like build vids keep it up 👍
I'd probably take gunpowder gamble instead of threaded specter, since throwing your improvised Solar explosive also counts for spirit of inmost light!
It also allows you to get wovem mail more often from spirit of cyrtarachne!
@@Revadike what are the requirements to proc gunpowder gamble
@@Polish_Sausage__any elemental debuff damage, defeating targets with abilities or solar weapon kills. So pretty much anything in the kit that’s shown will proc it like almost every other enemy
I use cyrtarachne with gpg in a build. Needing immost light for perfect but yeah you can get 30s of woven mail through your base grenade, gpg grenade and transcendent grenade 🙌🏼
i use this for my hoil coyote class item, works very well. haven’t gotten the cyrtarachne roll yet :(
Very thorough. I really appreciated that you took the alternate version of the build all the way through and we’re able to get into the nuances of its use vs. if you have the right exotic class item. Earned a sub from me!
Great video - appreciate all the details
15:00 WHATTTT you get PRE nerf Hoil with smoke bomb crazyyy thank you for info
It's an interesting build concept: a trapper style build that excels in DoT.
I've started experimenting with my own iteration of the build whilst I wait for the god roll class item to land. I have found, though, that I prefer lost signal, red death and palmera-b as my weapon loadout as I can economise elemental mods to work on more weapons whilst allowing for cure to have a more consistent uptime.
Although I haven't tested red death with this setup, during my playtime with the build healclip always felt super good imo. Stacked on top of woven mail made the healing feel way more impactful
@KahoonaBahoona yeah I found heal clip to suit my playstyle better too.
I happened upon a heal clip/attrition orbs parabellum which help fixes the healing issue as well as mitigates the orb gen problem I found with prismatic as a whole (i found that they comparatively have less orb gen options compared to the mono-classes). The smg also just suits the shorter-ish ranges my version of the build tends to prefer. So funnily, thus may be the only build I field that doesn't use an exotic weapon.
BTW my build currently lacks the god roll class item, so I'm having to make do with only regular resistance. Meaning the extra orbs to proc recuperation/purpose for frost armour is a godsend.
Most people say “hedge-emeny” btw
Yeah I was wondering whether I should say it as the UK pronunciation or the US way and I kinda ended up halfway in-between the two
Very nice build, will give it a try. The original gameplay video you linked was awesome, I can see why you were inspired by it. He's posted up the Warden GM too now.
Of course, I'll give Witherhoard a go, but I was also thinking about Lost Signal + Red Death as an alternative. This would allow you to drop Facet of Mending and take Balance, for example.
Thanks! For sure one of the really nice things with this build is how flexible it can be too
@@KahoonaBahoona I'm definitely interested in seeing how Lost Signal + Creeping Chill artifact perk works out. Lots of synergy in this build, I like it.
Is there a reason you aren’t running gunpowder gamble? Seems to fit perfectly into this build?
For me, I really like playing aggro, and especially in a lot of high end content, threaded spectre lets me get away with it.
Plus as you're spending so much time in transcendence, and as transcendence is so easy to get back with this setup it never felt like it was having a massive impact in the build. Extra fragment slots nice too
I cant notice much dif with inmost on class item, i like renewal much more with cyt more.
R u using compendium for stat % or something else?
Yup, compendium most the time, although I'll normally do ability testing stuff myself too to check if there's any interactions I miss
When you were listing all the sources of DR in the build, you also listed Frost Armor. However, I don't see anything that gives this build Frost Armor. Where would that be coming from without Facet of Purpose?
Yep, Frost Armours coming from Purpose, but you only want to run purpose if you've only got a coyote roll as it's trying to be a kind of replacement for woven mail that you lose by not having cyrterachne
How much better is witherhoard for this compared to lost signal? Im theorycrafting a version of this for when i get inmost/cyrtarachne, and i think i want dragon's breath for the exotic slot, especially with the artifact mod coming soon that buffs ignitions
Lost signal will still work really well and that combo you said is light and dark so you shouldn't lose out on too much transcendence. Otherwise just switch up grace and kinetic siphon and you'll be golden
@@KahoonaBahoona thanks for the reply. Im also thinking that since dragon's breath can stun unstops, ill take the arc grenade with the jolting fragment, that way i can still stun overloads and should have high amplified uptime, meaning even more DR with galvanic armor. Plus it'll be another way to proc facet of mending
@@pattyotkyeah that could work although it moves a bit away from the "trapper" idea of the build.
Although don't let anyone, especially me tell you what you should and shouldn't run. Imo, that's what keeps the game fresh
I'd take Heavy Handed for the orb gen.
What about unstoppable champs?
So is the ability regen still good without inmost perk?? Like if I only have one of these perks can I still make this work?
Ye, it'll still be pretty good because so much of the build focuses on transcendence, but the neutral game might suffer a little bit
I got 5 inmost light+ cyrtarachne and dismantled 4 of them. I almost deleted this last one cause it’s not what I’m after. I’ll try this build out thanks to u
I wouldn’t delete any of them just for the fact there are 64 unique rolls. But that’s just me
I said I got 5 identical rolls. I deleted 4. Kept one. What good does the extra 4 do for me? If it’s something I don’t care for I’ll delete it. 🤷🏻♂️ That’s just me.
@@Zenin_Toji666 oh I misunderstood your comment mb lol
@@therealryry777 you’re good bro
Hey, what if I use lost signal with auto loading and vorpal? I refuse to get the witherhoard catalyst in case you were wondering.
Yeah, that still works great, although you'd then need to switch in something like facet of devotion for getting more light transcendence
@@KahoonaBahoona Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks.
@@KahoonaBahoona Do you know if they patched lost signal? I don't feel like I'm getting enough darkness energy anymore.
I don't think so, although I haven't used the gun in a little bit so I'm not 100% I'd be able to tell
@@KahoonaBahoona Hey boss, I know I'm asking a lot of questions. But, can you give me some pointers for a build I'm trying to make? I have an idea, but don't know how to go about it. I'll tell you the concept:
It's a prismatic titan (preferably) that focuses on controlling the battlefield. It uses hoarfrost z and uses the aspects drengr's lash and diamond lance. The only things I can think of is using class ability mods and facet of hope. I feel like I'm onto something (given the titan buffs coming out in revenant), but could use all the help I can get.
BTW, I'm a solo player, so getting the exotic class items is going to be nigh impossible.
watching this as a titan
Join the dark side
Bruh I got this class item on like my first try and almost trashed it cuz I didn't think it was good lol
Ye, my vaults dying rn from how much class item hoarding I'm doing
Subbed o7
Thank you sir
The class items are not worth it if I cannot get them from normal play dual destiny is not match made
Ye, I would like to see some changes to acquisition for the class items but at the minute, the in game lfg is pretty good and there're a bunch of community discord servers that have lfgs, so there're definitely ways to get around it not having matchmaking if you're mostly a solo player
I really hope Bungie doesn't see this video 😢
They'll probably see it and want to nerf titans 🥲
Warlock does GM’s way faster and easier than trash hunters
lol...gm report says otherwise...14 out of 23 gm's are hunter's at the top...keep being a salty little kid though, i'm sure it'll work out for you!
@@Beast-mf7br lmaooo because they run 1-2 song of flame warlocks hahaha. Cope harder Hunter clown