The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Very pleasantly surprised by this movie! It shows what you can call Amazons as mentioned by Herodotus, the introduction of iron technology to an otherwise bronze culture, burial placement and offerings, and several historically accurate details of the nomadic life. My hat off to producers and directors!!!
@@Mercvrio5369 That is the nature of the relationship between nomads and urbanites. Nomads often helped move or protect the goods and purchased supplies from the urbanites.
@@Mercvrio5369 The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Before commenting,please read this: People in antiquity did not identify their ethnicity based on the language they speak. Life styles, customs and traditions were more important. E.g. Think about Early Roman Empire. Name is an important parameter to analyze a person’s identity. Confusing part is name variations in different languages. For instance Persian king Cyrus = Kiros = Keyhusrev (You see the change. When people called him in Persian, it was the same sound as when a person read Keyhusrev in Persian. I verified original name with an Iranian friend. It is Keyhusrev. Greek ears of Herodotus heard this sound as Kiros and probably some latin ears heard it as Cyrus - like a Roman name) Tomyris => Tomris => Tomur => Temir (means “Iron” in Kazakh, Uzbekh, Kyrgyz) => Demir (means “Iron” in Turkish) Let’s think about where she had lived. The Massagetae was an ancient tribal confederation placed in modern Turkmenistan, western Uzbekistan and Southern Kazakhstan. Massagetaens had worshipped to the sun and sky. Iranians had more complex religions(more than one) which all have a creator of everything (the god as people name it nowadays) Let’s see how old scholars attributed them Procopius writes in History of the Wars Book III: The Vandalic War: "the Massagetae whom they now call Huns" (XI. 37.), there was a certain man among the Massagetae, well gifted with courage and strength of body, the leader of a few men; this man had the privilege handed down from his fathers and ancestors to be the first in all the Hunnic armies to attack the enemy (XVIII. 54.). Evagrius Scholasticus (Ecclesiastical History. Book 3. Ch. II.): "and in Thrace, by the inroads of the Huns, formerly known by the name of Massagetae, who crossed the Ister without opposition". According to Guive Mirfendereski at the Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies (CAIS), the Massagetae are synonymous with the Sakā haumavargā of South Asian historiography. By the way I don’t consider Herodotus is a very reliable source but always a good starting point. According to Herodotus: “In their dress and mode of living the Massagetae resemble the Scythians. Each man has but one wife, yet all the wives are held in common; for this is a custom of the Massagetae and not of the Scythians.“I don’t know what to think about these claims but one take away would be about women in Massagaetans. Turkic tribes had different gender values than now, women were equal to men and they were also fighters.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
I read about this warrior queen few years ago, in Herodot book fragments pointed out by Polish journalist Kapuściński. Her legend survived through milenia already.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but this is one brilliant trailer. Whoever edited this has my respect. I've seen it so many times. Can't wait to watch the movie.
@@alluraambrose2978 My God! I just saw it. They've review bombed it to the ground lol. You'll see that there are 78% 1 star reviews. So it's a smear campaign kind of a thing. The rest are good. The bad reviews all seem to be mad about the fact that it was made by Kazak people. In the movie however, they did not mention once that Massagettae were Turkic. I'm not super familiar with the politics of the area so I wouldn't comment on that. It's a silly thing to fight over genetics of long gone people. I personally loved this movie. It's well made and showed Cyrus the Great the respect he deserved even in this version of the history. Which made me respect the filmmakers more. I believe there are 3 versions of his death in historical records, this one preferred by early historians the most.
A fantastic film. I keep thinking I wish it was a short mini-series instead. It would have made it possible to establish the different characters deeper and made the intrigues stronger and darker. Almira Tursyn is as strong as she is beautiful and makes an outstanding role performance. The make-up artists did a superb job and the characters age credibly. But there are two things that strike me the most. The first is all the magnificent horses. Last but not least, the uniquely powerful Language.
Great movie, I have no words. The East is slowly waking up when it comes to making movies. All the best. I was especially impressed by actresses Almira and Aizhan. It would be nice for them to stay in their country and continue making other films, which will of course be better and better.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Трудно передать словами тот восторг и трепет, который испытываю смотря трейлер фильма! Наконец-то дождался этого момента, когда все сошлось... время, финансы, новые технологии в съемке, выросло поколение прекрасных актеров и такой талантливый режиссёр как А.Сатаев снял фильм о Томирис! С нетерпением жду премьеры! Вовремя, очень даже вовремя, новому тюркскому возрождению нужна эта легенда, какие люди жили в большой Степи, чьими потомками мы являемся! Удачи фильму в прокате! Признания и больших кассовых сборов!
Queen Tomiri was a ruler in parts of modern-day Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, western Uzbekistan, and southern Kazakhstan. Check the map of Slavic (Arian) haplogroup R1a1DNA - 25000 years old. (Australian Centre for Ancient DNA - University of Adelaide) Scythia Europe: Sorbs (Lusitzi) 63% Polish 55% Byelorussians 50% Russians 46% Lithuanians 45% Ukrainians 43% Scythia Asia Kyrgyz people 63% Pashtuns (Pakistan, Afghanistan) 40-45% North West India 48-72%,
I just watch it on 27.09.2019! This is the best movie so far! They speak in an ancient Turkic (not Turkish) language because the director made it as much genuine as possible. Enjoy the movie great people of Turan (Turkic nations)!
@@hamdoulaa Scythian are the same as Ottomans many ethnicities exists. And many Turkic group have been Scythian. Persians and Turkic people have a long period of cultural exchange and she fought against Persians.
@@user-nf3yh7yx4k let´s call it cultural change and not oblivion. there are still many people, who speaks the different versions of this beautiful language. don´t forget, cultural change can´t be stopped. like the turks became muslims, what is really sad for me. that´s a total oblivion of a equal socitiy and kulture =( but everything need to change to not be forgotten.
To all pan Turks: Massagetae and Tomyris were eastern Iranian people and not Turks (Turks never exist in that time) so do not claim her and Massagetae as "Turkish heritage"
Incredible Masterpiece! This film shows the culture of Scythians and Sarmatians, because I'm in love with Scythian culture and I love the performance of Ghassan Massoud as Cyrus of Persia.
@Catch_Me_If_You_Can So you're just gonna throw the fact that turkic tribes lived much more oldest times in cental asia and the sakas were nomadic people which is within the turkic names and language . Im not gonna even try to explain just learn some history and search some science beceause geneticly its already proven sakas are turkic
🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩 From city Tomis, (Constanța) Romania (Geto-Dacians) : The song of Queen Tomirys : m.ruclips.net/video/eMIWa7AUnYo/видео.html 🎥 Regina Tomiris Dacă - RUclips Romanians history : Mesagetae = Big Getae Statue of Getae in Rome : ruclips.net/video/0Ssmfh2Kb6Q/видео.html Getae and Romans were the same people, so it remains today, Romanians and Italians belong to the same people. Stop coming with stupid theories, miseries, our evidence is in stone, in the language we speak (.... Latin languages) in gold, in name, archeology, etc. I'm Getae (Romanians), but I don't understand anything ! BUT the movie is very good ! ######################### ruclips.net/video/dAeaSEVV7cI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/OkYOAz_WU-w/видео.html
@Catch_Me_If_You_Can This movie is just a cheap propaganda piece. Amazing that they even went so far to make them speak turkish when it is established fact that they were an iranian people who spoke iranian.
I watched it on 29 Oct in Astana. There was only Russian dub with Kazakh subtitles available. I wish they could just show it with the original Old Turkic and Old Persian audio... the entire film crew and experts worked so hard to recreate it, only to be dubbed over!
@@dulat не правильно Тюрки это предки всех кочевых народов,они образовались когда Саки смешались с гуннами. А турки это отдельная нация но тоже Тюрксая не путайте
Ksjs Jdjdb pls show me one source that’s shows them being 100% Siberian Turkic people’s. Reality is the Turks mixed with tons of groups as they came west much later. Then proceeded to steal all of their history
Касактарга Сахалартан эҕэрдэ! Сразу видно что у нас с вами одни предки - Саки. Весь фильм не покидало чувство, что это и про нас Саха снято, все обряды, вера в духов, как погребали, имя девушки Сардаана, прям все. И заметил, раньше Касаки были язычниками, верили в духов и Таҥара? Так, мы Саха до наших дней сохранили эту веру. Вот бы приоткрыть тайны тех давних времен. К сожалению, нашу историю целеннаправленно уничтожали с тех пор как, сами знаете кто, пришли на наши земли. Фильм получился классный.
Сахаларға Қазақтардан салем!!! Да казахи были язычниками но хорошо что мы приняли ислам и сейчас являемся мусульманами!! Но мы вас любим и вы наши браться по крови, мы всегда с вами!! Надеюсь вы получите свою независимость от Рашистов!!
Tomris, Tomiris or Tamiris is a Turkic female name used in Azerbaijan, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan. The name is a modern Turkish derivation of Tomyris an ancient Iranian Massagetae queen from Central Asia.
Iranians are not nomads. Pls check ancient Saka (Massaget)jewelry where depicted faces belong to Turkic characters I.e. small yes and high sculls, not Iranian.
@@user-ze7td5zh6j no . they were like Parth and mades .you can check the Shahnameh by Ferdowsi (turan /Afrasiab , / Farangis .persian pahlavi name and ...) and also Igor M. Diakonoff call the that era EASTERN IRAN and Vasily Abaev also believe that according to Avesta they were Iranian but in deferent place and deferent language (like ferdowsi writing language ) :)
Аудармашы жалдайық па? Қуанбайсың ба осындай Ханшайым болғанына! Сөздер күнде өзгеріп жатыр, кеше телеаизор бүгін теледидар. Ертең басқа халықтар айтады, біздікі ғой, ана сөз бурят тілінде деп уже қуып жатыр.
Central Asia has always been a motherland of ancient Turkic tribes. Iran is the name of the geographic area South of Caspian sea. There is no such thing as an Iranian people, there are Persians who try to absorb everything that even remotely connected to the geography of that area.
@@karmoddisticaret9826 no it's a scientific fact that Scythians were an Iranic people and not Turkic. But you have to understand that Iranic does not mean Iranian.
Horfinn Durron scientific fact ? Check Automasal Dna of Hunnic Scythian sarmatian burials. In various genealogy sites foruns. Altaiyans are genetically the most closest to ancients central Asian Peoples.
Atro Patene you’re good even I don’t know which historians told schytians were turks while its proof they were iranian speaking people,in that era turk and mongol were same.massagetas weren’t turks were scythians and schytians were iranic not all of them iranians but all of them iranian speakers and stop bull shet about history when you have no evidence.
@@aradsstates9584 What the Fuck is iranic ?? cos İranic term is not older than 1000 year..and it made by Turkic kaganetes..Cos araps and greeks DELETED PERSİANS..so Turks came and ruled iran 1000 year till 1924 ish..Still half of their population is OGhuz Turks ( Azerbajians) All Scythian dna result..Life style wepons beleieve how they live how they barry deaths % 101 TURKİC...When did you ever lived like Scythians ???Why you claim something JUST with language ? YET ? Half of world atm is French or English ? Cos we all speak English as main ? Why you ignore 100 MORE fact shown they are Turkic ? BUT ONLY language make em iranic???They used persians cos they used proto persians SOGD as PLEB vs China and bussines with rest..totaly same as 2021 world..like how Dollar and English RUle..Turkic heritages always had problem with Chinese they never contact directly..always used some plebs..like Soghds..even they are melt under Turkich kaganetes... and become ( Tajiks - father of all real pers ) SO EVEN the Fucking iranian culture you cannot split away from Turkic effect..SO Persian language choiced as bussines and cos of SOGD effetcs..but as you says..it will not made scythians PERS..cos Sogds and some other proto pers wasnt even % 1-2 as population in stepps...
Massa-Getae was relatives to Tisa-Getae tribes located within Carpathian mountains. Getae was relatives to Thracian and Dacian people. It is not about current division of worships or cultures. In that time there were diferrent dieties and customs than today and also different than what we understand today that the ancient Massagetae and Persians should be. TOMIRIS come from root "MIR" which means "WORLD" or "EARTH AND HEAVEN" +suffix "-is" with meaning "child or succesor of" or "coming from". Tomiris defeated the King of Kings and of World and of all 4 Corners of World, the Kyros (Cyrus) the Great. Finally after the famous battle, when Kyros was killed, Tomiris immersed Kyroses' head into a bag full of blood and said her famous speach: "Let allow him to satisfy his neverending thirsty for blood." So Tomiris had to understood very well the toxic Kyroses' character and ill ideology of Kyroses' empire machinery. Mather Earth represented by women power came to get lessons to harmfull goals of an early imperial machinery.
ill ideology in fact came from peoples like you Jan Mihalus , who cant understand what made Cyrus Great who today receiving all nations respect and Trump cant believed one day at the coin stand beside Him, Cyrus was the King of the world, the King of Kings since there were no more kings in the realm (Brown, 1995;Olmstead, 1948; Herodotus, 1984). He was a genius military general and a brilliant political leader with grand ambitions, with a macro managerial approach, and a globlal desig His vision was to form a synthesis or universal civilization on cooperative and integrative bases incorporating with respect through inter-learning processes all cultures and civilizations of the time. He was also a man of great energy and talents but a man of wisdom and tolerance. His charismatic leadership transcended all boundaries of races, colors, religions, and nationalities. He was highly regarded by Persians and many non-Persians in all corners of the extended Empire. Persians called him the "Father," Greeks and Babylonians called him the "Law-Giver," and Jews called him the Savor and Deliverer (Cook, 1983;Herodotus, 1984; Olmstead, 1948)
Prin acest film kazahii ne fură istoria Dar se mai confirmă că mesageții fiind rude peregrine ale dacilor (În film express se vorbește despre daci, Argun fiind fiul unui rege dac), dominau și stepele dincolo de răul Nipru Tiras tot e un nume de origine dacă !!!
@@VCH-RO Cred ca pe Daniel Roxin am auzit ca Sarmisegetuza este defapt combinarea cuvintelor: Sarmatii ( Sarmi ) si (se) Getii ( get) impreuna (uza) ... edit: Sarmatii fiind Sciti/masogeti
A movie on a Scythian peoples, ooooo. I must admit, I am excited to see it, and the other comments here seem favorable and, bonus points for me, compliment historical accuracy. Costumes to my knowledge look very good, and I dont get to see many shows on the time period and place. Legendary campaign of Cyrus from the other perspective. Perhaps will be another Barbarians (just first season.), Well known story told as a Scythian triumph instead of a Persian disaster. I like it
@@KeriN0s Sak dilindedir, kimse bilmez yagni dogru mu ya yanlis mi konusuyorlar ama kazaklar yapmis onun icin biraz sorunlar neye kazakca yok diye insanlar kiziyorlar
Usually, people do not have the time or patience to read a book or history and are deceived by watching an easy story(a movie). This movie has a lot of historical flaws: 1. The people of the Massagetaes, Savromats(Sarmatian), and Dahae tribes were themselves Iranians, so their faces should look like Iranians. 2. The Turks and Mongols migrated to these lands almost ten centuries later due to climate change. 3. There are three different stories of the death of Cyrus from the three Greek historians: *Ctesias; his history was based on Persian archives and state records, and therefore, was far superior to Herodotus' history. *Herodotus' story of doubtful authenticity, is full of romantic stories, exotic anecdotes, court gossip, and lists that are of dubious reliability. *Xenophon; claims that Cyrus died peacefully in his capital. Of these three, the story of Ctesias is more plausible. Cyrus’s conquests in Central Asia were probably genuine, since a city in farthest Sogdiana was called Cyreschata or Cyropolis (see Britannica). 4- This movie does not even correspond to the story of Herodotus, and it tells some lies! Tomyris's husband was Rustam and not Argun! Spargapises had committed suicide in captivity, according to Herodotus! 5- This movie grossed $1.3 million against a production budget of $6.5 million. Give this money to Sasha Cohen(Borat) so that he does not make any movies against you. ... ...
The Iranians nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
@@hisholiness4537 Dude, hope you are not brainwashed by Hollywood movies! All the countries whose names have the suffix "Stan" have had Iranic people. Because the suffix "Stan" means a state in different Iranian dialects. So these countries are brothers and no one is the enemy of the other and they don't trash out each other! Some of these countries: Poland (Lehestan), Serbia(Serbstan), Hungary (Magyarstan), India( Hindustan), Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and...
scythian have noting to do whit turks they was iranic Brittanica Scythian, also called Scyth, Saka, and Sacae, member of a nomadic people, originally of Iranian stock, known from as early as the 9th century BCE who migrated westward from Central Asia to southern Russia and Ukraine in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE. The Scythians founded a rich, powerful empire centred on what is now Crimea. The empire survived for several centuries before succumbing to the Sarmatians during the period from the 4th century BCE to the 2nd century CE.
I dont know about the language used in the movie but the masagetes used to live in the southern part of Romania, Bulgaria, Moldavia and maybe even a bit of Serbia. Has anybody downloaded the movie?
According to the actress: ALMIRA TURSYN, ACTRESS STARRING AS TOMIRIS: - "Of course, there were interesting and difficult moments. I got especially tired when I was wearing a suit. It's very hot in it. I got tired, even when I rode a horse. It was also difficult to speak in the Old Persian language because the tongue stumbles. " kazakh-tv.kz/en/view/culture/page_198349_a-historical-film-%E2%80%98tomiris%E2%80%99-is-nearing-its-completion
@@mattbeets dude stop this bullshit propaganda. I am from Turkey and its been hundreds of years since Tomris lived her life and I still understand %60 of the movie without subtitles lol what the fuck are you trying to prove?? There is literally no one, no fucking one living name called Tomris in Iran while there are thousands of girls with the name Tomris in Turkey.. Their holding the arrow style in the movie, their horse riding style and the relationship with the animal or even their tombs(kurgan) are all fucking unique for Turks. Enough with bullshit propaganda. Just stop it.
@@krixpop it's called proto turkish. I am from Turkey and even though it has been hundreds of years I can %50-60 understand what they speak in the movie.
@@krixpop while there are thousands of females named Tomris in Turkic states including my country just show me one Tomris anywhere but a Turkic state. Now you can keep being jealous and a butthurt
Помогите найти пожалуйста где можно скачать/посмотреть полный фильм с английскими субтитрами. Друг не разговаривает ни на русском, ни на казахском, а очень хотел посмотреть этот фильм, а в просторах интернета я даже платную версию не нашла на английском, только этот трейлер и все!
Cyrus was the King of the world, the King of Kings since there were no more kings in the realm (Brown, 1995;Olmstead, 1948; Herodotus, 1984). He was a genius military general and a brilliant political leader with grand ambitions, with a macro managerial approach, and a globlal desig His vision was to form a synthesis or universal civilization on cooperative and integrative bases incorporating with respect through inter-learning processes all cultures and civilizations of the time. He was also a man of great energy and talents but a man of wisdom and tolerance. His charismatic leadership transcended all boundaries of races, colors, religions, and nationalities. He was highly regarded by Persians and many non-Persians in all corners of the extended Empire. Persians called him the "Father," Greeks and Babylonians called him the "Law-Giver," and Jews called him the Savor and Deliverer (Cook, 1983;Herodotus, 1984; Olmstead, 1948)
Po slovam rezhissera eto byl iskusstvenno pridumannyi yazyk dlya fil'ma, smes' farsi I drevnetyurkskogo yazyka. Tak kak po slovam uchenyh skify I saki govorili na odnom iz indoiranskih yazykov (pravda dostovernyh pis'menmyh artefaktov na etom yazyke ne sohranilos' ), a deistviya fil'ma proiskhodyat primerno v 5 veke do nashei ery vo vremya pravleniya Kira Velikogo, a epoha tyurkov nastala v 5om veke nashei ery, eti 1000 let raznitsy prishlis' na epohu gunnov, kotorye skoree vsego govorili na proto-tyurkskom, na etom yazyke takje ne sokhranilis' i ne bylo kakih-libo pis'mennyh artefaktov, to, rezhissery vsego lish' sdelali svoyu versiyu. A dostovernye artefakty na drevnetyurkskom yazyke datiruyutsya vsego lish' 5-6m vekami nashei ery Orhono-Eniseiskimi runicheskimi stellami. To byl, yazyk goktyurkov (koktyurkov).
Voobshe-to6 po issledovaniyam genetika Klesova, prototurki uzhe byli 5 000 let nazat do nashey ery ! Poslushayte Klesova6 kotoryi oprovergaet nadumannuyu teoriyu akademicheskoy nauki
@@user-ge4co9dp2p Kakoi klesov. Geny u vseh lyudei byli I budut, yesche do togo kak lyudi stali delit'sya na natsii. Eti geny govoryat lish' o migratsii tselyh grupp lyudei po zemnomu sharu. No nichego bolee.
bizim filmleri de Kazak yönetmen çeksin bizimkiler kötü. Kazaklar çok iyi çekiyor efsane 🎖️ hatta Diriliş Ertuğrul un dövüş sahneleri için Kazaklar la çalışıldığını biliyorum. Adamlar çok iyi
Renáta Béres Iran and turan were like spartans and Athenians. Their names ,beliefs , behaves and we have that in national persian book Shah-nameh all places and names are completely indo-european names near to avesten and sanskrit. They were iranian. The words remain also near to persian. Scythians and sarmatians were iranic tribes and ossetians of georgia are descendants of them. We don't have ural-altaic. It was abolished. Central asia had iranic before. Kharazm , Soghd (uzbekistan) , Tokharians , bukhara , Marv , Gotganj and all were persian citiea that their inhabitants assimilated oe killed because of turko mongols expansion. R1a is for slavic , North indians , tajiks , iran and afghans who are aryans And in the end story is a lie because other historians said otherwise about death of cyrus.
Massagatae people on the west side of Indus were known as Mahajatt ( sanskirt translation of Massagatae ) . And present day Jats are decendents of Mahajatt.
The big problem with claiming Tomiris by modern Iranians is that those Scythians were actually the enemies of the Persians and this was not just a single battle. Their nomadic lifestyle and culture were very completely different from those of the settled Persians. These nomads called their land Turan. Turan was the enemy of Iran. The Turanians of the Great Steppe absorbed a lot of later migrants from the East including the Huns, Avars and Turkic peoples. They gradually became Turcified but this happened over hundreds of years. You can see that in the features of the skulls of the Scythians from the burial mounds as they show a gradual transition from Indo-European to more Asian shapes. The genetics of modern Turkic peoples, especially the Kazakhs shows great genetic diversity revealing this multilayered history. For example, my own tribe the Argyn, all males carry the G1 Y chromosome haplotype, which came originally from West Persia. Also, culturally and spiritually Kazakhs are much more similar to those ancient Turanians, while Uzbeks are more similar to Persians. So, yes, Tomiris is very much relevant to modern Kazakhs as the Scythians were among our ancestors and their nomadic culture lived on through the ages and became the Kazakh culture. Just like the Scythian women, Kazakh women were brave warriors who often fought alongside their men and they were not slaves to their men wrapped in cloth as in Persia.
she united tribes from Armenia, Turkey, Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan, and East Europe.The massagetae were a branch from the great thracian tribes such as dacians, getians, etc.At the shores of modern Romania we have a ancient city called Tomis, firt believed to be of greek settlers but most likely constructed for her.Massagetae were indo-europeans that used to live in the valley that is now the Black sea, after the Great flood the tribes divided and reached all the shores of the flooded valley that became the Black Sea in order to survive.In the northern part of the sea the massagetae were expanding from east Romania to the Ural Mountains.In the south, parts of Turkey and Asia.She is a part of the legends of every nation living around the Black Sea.Indo-europeans were a mix of asian and europeeans, some of the first people that spreaded in Asia and Europe.All after the flood, they survived mostly due to the combined asian and european fighting and riding skills.legend sais they invented the horse sattle and the sattle ladders, making them more stable when riding and using their bow simoultaneously.Even better than mongols, but we talking thousands of years apart.
Exactly- Masagetai (Latin- masagetae) were one of many tribes of Guds (Goths in English, Geths in Latin, Los Godos- in Spanish). In Romania, Bulgaria territory lived Thracs, the Southern Guds. Dacia- later Kingdom of them. Only 2 languages left now- Lithuanian and Latvian, with some words in Romanian language. Goths WERE NOT Germans. Trakai- the town in Lithuania. Jurate Statkute de Rosales the researcher
What the hell are you talking about? The were Scythians living all across Central Asia - all the way to the Altai mountains. Their heartland was actually in Central Asia and not Europe. There is a valley where the largest of the kurgans are located where Scythian kings and queens were buried - and it is near the Almaty, Kazakhstan.
@@aabzhano The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
I don't understand the controversy, Kazakhs are the modern inheritors of the steppe and its culture, why shouldn't they be allowed to make a film about it?
They aren't tho. Kazakhs are Turkic. Scythians and all Scythian tribes including the Massagetae, Saka, Sarmatians, Alans, Iasygez were all Iranian people who spoke Eastern Iranian languages, related to modern day languages like Ossetian, Pashto, Pamiri, Yaghnobi etc. There is controversy because this movie makes the Scythians look like Kazakhs and speak the Kazakh language. When in reality, Scythians resembled Europeans, they had high Indo-European ancestry and most of them had blonde and red hair with light features. They were Iranian just like Cyrus
@vagabond57097 Also now you people are mad that a movie has the wrong race of historical characters. You are mad they are not european white. In reality the massagetae were not white, iranian, red headed, blonde or indo European that is a lie from the post Columbus 1492 europe colonized world. . White washing history. Most iranians are blonde with red hair today? No! You are angry that the movie is depicting massagetae looking as the people that live in that region today... pure hypocrisy, I can name you hundreds of films and regions today in which Europeans do the same thing or claim the people living there today are the same people as ancient times like.. the Egyptians for one example. Apparently historical colonization Only happened to white people. Europeans love depicting everyone as white.
Je rigole car chaque fois que le mérite en revient aux TURKS on invente des conneries pour contournés ce palmarès, Attila le hun de l'ouest était Turk, gengis khan descendant et l'héritier des huns de l'est donc TURK, les ottomans était turc... Tomris khatun était turcique arrété de déformer l'histoire, l'histoire revient a ceux qui l'on écrit soyez respectueux !!!
Queen Tomiris got support with heavy cavalry from Lechistan (Poland) in final battle against Cyrus the Great. That's why she won. That's real history, we all know Tomiris story in Lechistan. Greeting for Masagots ( East Steppe Gots).
if they teach real history their imperial made future will crack ^^ Poland and most of North places already Kypcaks lands with some other nomads..even in 2021 many Kypcak Dna alive in poland
According to Dandamayev, the stories told by Greek historians have more of the color and smell of a novel than the description of a real event. Although we do not know the exact truth of Cyrus' death, it is clear that he was buried in Pasargadae.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) ! You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!! Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery ! 👇 ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe! Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc. Here are some examples ! BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS ! Who were the Getae ? From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! " We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! " The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold! They were described as having splashy hair and white skin! They were part of the same great Thracian nation! There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Arkadaslar turkce altyazi talep edip durmayin, film zaten turkce, tarihi eski turkcede, kokumuze donme zamani geldi, en onemli cumle sonunda, Tomris:" Hey, ozguryurek, turan erleri, Tek Tek (bolunmus halde) bizlerin yuzerine dusman galip gelir, birlesirsek dusmani kana bogariz. Hep beraber dusmana nasil savasilmasi gerektigini gosterelim"
Best movie! I love this movie! Great Queen! Great Kazakhstan! from Corea!
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html
The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Very pleasantly surprised by this movie! It shows what you can call Amazons as mentioned by Herodotus, the introduction of iron technology to an otherwise bronze culture, burial placement and offerings, and several historically accurate details of the nomadic life. My hat off to producers and directors!!!
@Octavio_26 Thus in the movie they show iron technology brought in by merchants.
@@Mercvrio5369 That is the nature of the relationship between nomads and urbanites. Nomads often helped move or protect the goods and purchased supplies from the urbanites.
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The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Before commenting,please read this:
People in antiquity did not identify their ethnicity based on the language they speak. Life styles, customs and traditions were more important. E.g. Think about Early Roman Empire.
Name is an important parameter to analyze a person’s identity. Confusing part is name variations in different languages.
For instance Persian king Cyrus = Kiros = Keyhusrev (You see the change. When people called him in Persian, it was the same sound as when a person read Keyhusrev in Persian. I verified original name with an Iranian friend. It is Keyhusrev. Greek ears of Herodotus heard this sound as Kiros and probably some latin ears heard it as Cyrus - like a Roman name)
Tomyris => Tomris => Tomur => Temir (means “Iron” in Kazakh, Uzbekh, Kyrgyz) => Demir (means “Iron” in Turkish)
Let’s think about where she had lived. The Massagetae was an ancient tribal confederation placed in modern Turkmenistan, western Uzbekistan and Southern Kazakhstan.
Massagetaens had worshipped to the sun and sky. Iranians had more complex religions(more than one) which all have a creator of everything (the god as people name it nowadays)
Let’s see how old scholars attributed them
Procopius writes in History of the Wars Book III: The Vandalic War: "the Massagetae whom they now call Huns" (XI. 37.), there was a certain man among the Massagetae, well gifted with courage and strength of body, the leader of a few men; this man had the privilege handed down from his fathers and ancestors to be the first in all the Hunnic armies to attack the enemy (XVIII. 54.).
Evagrius Scholasticus (Ecclesiastical History. Book 3. Ch. II.): "and in Thrace, by the inroads of the Huns, formerly known by the name of Massagetae, who crossed the Ister without opposition".
According to Guive Mirfendereski at the Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies (CAIS), the Massagetae are synonymous with the Sakā haumavargā of South Asian historiography.
By the way I don’t consider Herodotus is a very reliable source but always a good starting point. According to Herodotus: “In their dress and mode of living the Massagetae resemble the Scythians. Each man has but one wife, yet all the wives are held in common; for this is a custom of the Massagetae and not of the Scythians.“I don’t know what to think about these claims but one take away would be about women in Massagaetans. Turkic tribes had different gender values than now, women were equal to men and they were also fighters.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html
The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Oh, more info)
I read about this warrior queen few years ago, in Herodot book fragments pointed out by Polish journalist Kapuściński. Her legend survived through milenia already.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html
The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Herodot wasn't historian, he was a bullshitter
I didn't expect such a movie, but this is brilliant one. Must be the best Turkic movie ever made. No more words to say...
I haven't seen the movie yet, but this is one brilliant trailer. Whoever edited this has my respect. I've seen it so many times. Can't wait to watch the movie.
Here I am watching the trailer again only to find my comment. Certainly among the top historical movies, a real masterpiece!
This movie about Central Asia, specially about Qassak people!
@@nightsky3409 Qassak as in the people from Kazakstan?
@@fahadus IMDB is telling a different story but I can imagine that it's a touchy subject for some.
@@alluraambrose2978 My God! I just saw it. They've review bombed it to the ground lol. You'll see that there are 78% 1 star reviews. So it's a smear campaign kind of a thing. The rest are good.
The bad reviews all seem to be mad about the fact that it was made by Kazak people. In the movie however, they did not mention once that Massagettae were Turkic. I'm not super familiar with the politics of the area so I wouldn't comment on that. It's a silly thing to fight over genetics of long gone people. I personally loved this movie. It's well made and showed Cyrus the Great the respect he deserved even in this version of the history. Which made me respect the filmmakers more. I believe there are 3 versions of his death in historical records, this one preferred by early historians the most.
A fantastic film. I keep thinking I wish it was a short mini-series instead. It would have made it possible to establish the different characters deeper and made the intrigues stronger and darker. Almira Tursyn is as strong as she is beautiful and makes an outstanding role performance. The make-up artists did a superb job and the characters age credibly. But there are two things that strike me the most. The first is all the magnificent horses. Last but not least, the uniquely powerful Language.
Great movie, I have no words. The East is slowly waking up when it comes to making movies. All the best. I was especially impressed by actresses Almira and Aizhan. It would be nice for them to stay in their country and continue making other films, which will of course be better and better.
Tarihin ilk İmparatoriçesi, Türk balası Tomris'in filmini çeken, destekleyen herkese selam olsun!
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Alper abi, Göktürk üçlemesinide bekliyoruz..
senin filminide sabirsizlikla bekliyoruz Alper abi, #caglararts #gokturkuclemesi
Alper ağabeyim senin filmini de 40 gözle bekliyoruz. İyi ki varsın. Bu arada inşAllah bir daha başına kötü bi olay gelmez.
@Ksjs Jdjdb kardeş, instagramda Göktürk filmini takip et orada herseyi detaylarıyla yazıyor son paylaşımında Alper abi..
@Ksjs Jdjdb eyvallah, alper abinin filmini duyuralım destek çıkalım..
She was a strong warrior in our true story. Thank you Qazaq people for the film.
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html
The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Not a true story. It's completely fictional.
Thank you! I saw it, amazing! Greetings from Hungary! You are Brothers and Sisters!
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@danikocka Zarina, Tomiris, Mede, Attila and Sakhs and Huns are the ancestors of Kazakhs, Hungarians and all the Turkic peoples.🐺💪👊💥👏👏👍👍
Трудно передать словами тот восторг и трепет, который испытываю смотря трейлер фильма! Наконец-то дождался этого момента, когда все сошлось... время, финансы, новые технологии в съемке, выросло поколение прекрасных актеров и такой талантливый режиссёр как А.Сатаев снял фильм о Томирис! С нетерпением жду премьеры! Вовремя, очень даже вовремя, новому тюркскому возрождению нужна эта легенда, какие люди жили в большой Степи, чьими потомками мы являемся! Удачи фильму в прокате! Признания и больших кассовых сборов!
Queen Tomiri was a ruler in parts of modern-day Turkmenistan, Afghanistan,
western Uzbekistan, and southern Kazakhstan.
Check the map of Slavic (Arian) haplogroup R1a1DNA - 25000 years old.
(Australian
Centre for Ancient DNA - University of Adelaide)
Scythia Europe:
Sorbs (Lusitzi) 63%
Polish 55%
Byelorussians 50%
Russians 46%
Lithuanians 45%
Ukrainians 43%
Scythia Asia
Kyrgyz people 63%
Pashtuns (Pakistan, Afghanistan) 40-45%
North West India 48-72%,
Alibek Azhmagambet
Scythians were eastern iranic people not turkic.
Tomyris was an Iranian Massagetae. Scythians were Iranians. Her name means brave in Iranian
Shapur the great in Torkekhar vaghean khareh 😂🤣
Алеке🤚👍👍
Dimash Kudaibergen new song"Qairan Elim" brought me here.
jazz pong бы
Сол димашты әр тесікке тыға бермеңдерші! Шаршатыпаңдаршы!
I just watch it on 27.09.2019! This is the best movie so far! They speak in an ancient Turkic (not Turkish) language because the director made it as much genuine as possible. Enjoy the movie great people of Turan (Turkic nations)!
hi. do you know if there's an english sub version? thanks!
LONG LIVE TURAN!
@@chetori__ Even in the trailer she sayd she's massagetae who were releated to the western brothers, Getae
Except that she was Scythian and not Turkic
@@hamdoulaa Scythian are the same as Ottomans many ethnicities exists. And many Turkic group have been Scythian. Persians and Turkic people have a long period of cultural exchange and she fought against Persians.
I am from Hungary. I will to watch this film.
Turanic brother
How I watch the movie?????
Томирис @!$& инн на новости из них және байағ батыр
Megerte
You hunnic descendants of Hungary has nothing to do with iranic scythians.
This is a great trailer!!!
damn ive been waiting for this film for ages!!!
Tomiris hepimizin özüdür, tarihidir. Umarım Türkiye'de de yayınlanır bu film🇹🇷🇰🇿🇹🇷🇰🇿
@@yerkeyerke4856 Assalaumuagaleikum Turk dunyasy jasasyn
@@Showentertaiment Ualeikumsalam! yasasin!
Turkey is not speak in Turk language in present time , you are all in oblivion
@@user-nf3yh7yx4k let´s call it cultural change and not oblivion. there are still many people, who speaks the different versions of this beautiful language. don´t forget, cultural change can´t be stopped.
like the turks became muslims, what is really sad for me. that´s a total oblivion of a equal socitiy and kulture =( but everything need to change to not be forgotten.
To all pan Turks: Massagetae and Tomyris were eastern Iranian people and not Turks (Turks never exist in that time) so do not claim her and Massagetae as "Turkish heritage"
Helal olsun ayakta alkışlıyorum yapim fragman cok guzel. Turkiyede de ancak osmanli dizileri yapilir. Sanki osmanlidan once kokenimiz yokmus gibi.
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Уау Томирис кору керек кутемин
One of my favorite stories, can't wait to see the film!
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@@yerkeyerke4856 Awesome!
Azerbaycandan bütün Türk qardaslarima va bacilarima salamlar 📜📜📜📯
😂😂😂sythians we’re not Turks
Incredible Masterpiece! This film shows the culture of Scythians and Sarmatians, because I'm in love with Scythian culture and I love the performance of Ghassan Massoud as Cyrus of Persia.
@Catch_Me_If_You_Can Well I believe at the Turkic people are descendants of the Scythians.
@Catch_Me_If_You_Can So you're just gonna throw the fact that turkic tribes lived much more oldest times in cental asia and the sakas were nomadic people which is within the turkic names and language . Im not gonna even try to explain just learn some history and search some science beceause geneticly its already proven sakas are turkic
🇹🇩🇹🇩🇹🇩 From city Tomis, (Constanța) Romania (Geto-Dacians) :
The song of Queen Tomirys :
m.ruclips.net/video/eMIWa7AUnYo/видео.html
🎥 Regina Tomiris Dacă - RUclips
Romanians history :
Mesagetae = Big Getae
Statue of Getae in Rome :
ruclips.net/video/0Ssmfh2Kb6Q/видео.html
Getae and Romans were the same people, so it remains today, Romanians and Italians belong to the same people.
Stop coming with stupid theories, miseries, our evidence is in stone, in the language we speak (.... Latin languages) in gold, in name, archeology, etc.
I'm Getae (Romanians), but I don't understand anything !
BUT the movie is very good !
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@Catch_Me_If_You_Can This movie is just a cheap propaganda piece. Amazing that they even went so far to make them speak turkish when it is established fact that they were an iranian people who spoke iranian.
Scythians were an Iranian people, and Tomyris was Iranian Massagetae a branch of Iranian Scythians. Her name is Iranian and means brave
It was amazing. Epic length. Tomiris is legendary.
I watched it on 29 Oct in Astana. There was only Russian dub with Kazakh subtitles available. I wish they could just show it with the original Old Turkic and Old Persian audio... the entire film crew and experts worked so hard to recreate it, only to be dubbed over!
Adrian Mei today is 12 oct. r u from the future?
Отличный, Великолепный фильм! Спасибо создателям фильма!
Пожалуйста сделайте на турецком тоже, там очень большая аудитория
фильм древней турецкий снимали
@@user-qq4wb4hx2l 🤣🤣 не древне турецский. Сак массагетский🤦♂️
@@galante6707 он имел ввиду "древнетюрксий". "Тюрк" и "турок" это одно и тоже слово
@@dulat не правильно Тюрки это предки всех кочевых народов,они образовались когда Саки смешались с гуннами. А турки это отдельная нация но тоже Тюрксая не путайте
Мана сана пана и явладею древне тюркским😄
I'll be looking forward to seeing it in Poland!
*Hello to all my Kazakh & other Turkic brother & sisters, wondering if anyone knows where I can watch this movie?!*
Bro this movie has nothing to do with Turks or Mongols . It’s embarrassing to see this culture stealing .
@@Spitamenes007 she was the queen of Sakhs, people who lived in Central Asia long way before. Still direct ancestors though :)
@@yeta6364 direct ancestors of Tajiks yes
U may watch it in telegram channels. I've watched it there
@@Spitamenes007 sakha is turkic they are all turkic tribes tajik speak Persian but there race is close to sakha turk too not iran
When can we see it in the USA? Taking both my daughters to see it so they know the story of ancestors.
Did you ever find a way to watch it in US?
Ksjs Jdjdb the Turks can stop stealing Scythian as their own. Genetics have proven they were not Turkic.
Ksjs Jdjdb next you wil say there wasn’t an Armenian genocide.
Ksjs Jdjdb pls show me one source that’s shows them being 100% Siberian Turkic people’s. Reality is the Turks mixed with tons of groups as they came west much later. Then proceeded to steal all of their history
Ksjs Jdjdb nice copy paste without a link it’s bullshit have a nice night
OLD TURKIC LANGUAGE
Köszönjük! Testvérek és Nővérek, eljött az ideje az új birodalom egyesítésnek!
Magyar? Hungarian?
@@newjansy yes he is Hungarian
🗡️🤲🏼😘.
Thank you for the movie of our ancestors:) Hungarian-yazig brotherhood
Yes the movie is about jats
Yerkebulan Niyetbayev рахмет:)
Hungarians were not Iranic
Renáta Béres Iranic, but not persian:)
Dishu Tomar this movie is about the ancestors of the Kazhak people and not about Indians.
Türkçe altyazılı video da gelir umarım. 🇹🇷
KAZAKH KAZAKISTAN
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Hey efandim sikdir
M A R J I N A L where are you from?
M A R J I N A L why are you so rude?
We need a proper movie about Cyrus the Great and the persian empire.
Ha-ha-ha! Would love to see that! Alternative history rules!
wow, must see!! Debby Australia
Касактарга Сахалартан эҕэрдэ! Сразу видно что у нас с вами одни предки - Саки. Весь фильм не покидало чувство, что это и про нас Саха снято, все обряды, вера в духов, как погребали, имя девушки Сардаана, прям все. И заметил, раньше Касаки были язычниками, верили в духов и Таҥара? Так, мы Саха до наших дней сохранили эту веру. Вот бы приоткрыть тайны тех давних времен. К сожалению, нашу историю целеннаправленно уничтожали с тех пор как, сами знаете кто, пришли на наши земли. Фильм получился классный.
Сахаларға Қазақтардан салем!!! Да казахи были язычниками но хорошо что мы приняли ислам и сейчас являемся мусульманами!! Но мы вас любим и вы наши браться по крови, мы всегда с вами!! Надеюсь вы получите свою независимость от Рашистов!!
@@newjansy За всех не надо писать, вот мне ненравится что наши предки предали Тенгри и приняли чужую веру и всё просрали
Tomris, Tomiris or Tamiris is a Turkic female name used in Azerbaijan, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan. The name is a modern Turkish derivation of Tomyris an ancient Iranian Massagetae queen from Central Asia.
Iranians are not nomads. Pls check ancient Saka (Massaget)jewelry where depicted faces belong to Turkic characters I.e. small yes and high sculls, not Iranian.
@@user-ze7td5zh6j Lol
@@user-ze7td5zh6j no . they were like Parth and mades .you can check the Shahnameh by Ferdowsi (turan /Afrasiab , / Farangis .persian pahlavi name and ...) and also Igor M. Diakonoff call the that era EASTERN IRAN and Vasily Abaev also believe that according to Avesta they were Iranian but in deferent place and deferent language (like ferdowsi writing language ) :)
You are right before turkic people arrived Scythians were persian speaking nomads.
SHE IS NOT IRANIAN YOU DUMB
Даже сайлаубек ахуел от языка когда говорили маннапасама кенатама
🤗✌🤩 Точно, МС Сайлаубек оттуда на машине времени прилетел
😂😂😂👍👍👍
🤣🤣🤣
Жардын бауырым!!!)))))))
Мана тахмырыс, патша Куруш кан санюх
loved it !
Коне турки тилин тусину киын екен)
Аудармашы жалдайық па? Қуанбайсың ба осындай Ханшайым болғанына! Сөздер күнде өзгеріп жатыр, кеше телеаизор бүгін теледидар. Ертең басқа халықтар айтады, біздікі ғой, ана сөз бурят тілінде деп уже қуып жатыр.
Неге қазақша сөйлемеген,
Amazing! Now, where can I watch this...
Tomiris ana ! Respect from Azerbaijan !
Шүкр дені дұрыс трейлер❤
That's amazing ❤
Just wow, they are speaking old turkic language!
@Hassan Abdulsalam Turks did not exist at that time
Central Asia has always been a motherland of ancient Turkic tribes. Iran is the name of the geographic area South of Caspian sea. There is no such thing as an Iranian people, there are Persians who try to absorb everything that even remotely connected to the geography of that area.
@@karmoddisticaret9826 no it's a scientific fact that Scythians were an Iranic people and not Turkic. But you have to understand that Iranic does not mean Iranian.
Horfinn Durron scientific fact ? Check Automasal Dna of Hunnic Scythian sarmatian burials. In various genealogy sites foruns. Altaiyans are genetically the most closest to ancients central Asian Peoples.
@@school_psychosoma they are existed but before gokturks they were called with other names
whoah this Hollywood class film
OMG I NEED TO SEE THIS
Cyrus the Great is a symbol of freedom and liberty
Atro Patene you’re good even I don’t know which historians told schytians were turks while its proof they were iranian speaking people,in that era turk and mongol were same.massagetas weren’t turks were scythians and schytians were iranic not all of them iranians but all of them iranian speakers and stop bull shet about history when you have no evidence.
@@aradsstates9584 What the Fuck is iranic ?? cos İranic term is not older than 1000 year..and it made by Turkic kaganetes..Cos araps and greeks DELETED PERSİANS..so Turks came and ruled iran 1000 year till 1924 ish..Still half of their population is OGhuz Turks ( Azerbajians) All Scythian dna result..Life style wepons beleieve how they live how they barry deaths % 101 TURKİC...When did you ever lived like Scythians ???Why you claim something JUST with language ? YET ? Half of world atm is French or English ? Cos we all speak English as main ? Why you ignore 100 MORE fact shown they are Turkic ? BUT ONLY language make em iranic???They used persians cos they used proto persians SOGD as PLEB vs China and bussines with rest..totaly same as 2021 world..like how Dollar and English RUle..Turkic heritages always had problem with Chinese they never contact directly..always used some plebs..like Soghds..even they are melt under Turkich kaganetes... and become ( Tajiks - father of all real pers ) SO EVEN the Fucking iranian culture you cannot split away from Turkic effect..SO Persian language choiced as bussines and cos of SOGD effetcs..but as you says..it will not made scythians PERS..cos Sogds and some other proto pers wasnt even % 1-2 as population in stepps...
@@Ouzconqueror You are brainwashed by Erdogan
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В декабре
Благодарю
27 сентября 2019
Massa-Getae was relatives to Tisa-Getae tribes located within Carpathian mountains. Getae was relatives to Thracian and Dacian people. It is not about current division of worships or cultures. In that time there were diferrent dieties and customs than today and also different than what we understand today that the ancient Massagetae and Persians should be. TOMIRIS come from root "MIR" which means "WORLD" or "EARTH AND HEAVEN" +suffix "-is" with meaning "child or succesor of" or "coming from". Tomiris defeated the King of Kings and of World and of all 4 Corners of World, the Kyros (Cyrus) the Great. Finally after the famous battle, when Kyros was killed, Tomiris immersed Kyroses' head into a bag full of blood and said her famous speach: "Let allow him to satisfy his neverending thirsty for blood." So Tomiris had to understood very well the toxic Kyroses' character and ill ideology of Kyroses' empire machinery. Mather Earth represented by women power came to get lessons to harmfull goals of an early imperial machinery.
Ohhh wow I love it
ill ideology in fact came from peoples like you Jan Mihalus , who cant understand what made Cyrus Great who today receiving all nations respect and Trump cant believed one day at the coin stand beside Him,
Cyrus was the King of the world, the King of Kings since there were no more kings in the realm (Brown, 1995;Olmstead, 1948; Herodotus, 1984). He was a genius military general and a brilliant political leader with grand ambitions, with a macro managerial approach, and a globlal desig His vision was to form a synthesis or universal civilization on cooperative and integrative bases incorporating with respect through inter-learning processes all cultures and civilizations of the time. He was also a man of great energy and talents but a man of wisdom and tolerance. His charismatic leadership transcended all boundaries of races, colors, religions, and nationalities. He was highly regarded by Persians and many non-Persians in all corners of the extended Empire. Persians called him the "Father,"
Greeks and Babylonians called him the "Law-Giver," and Jews called him the Savor and Deliverer (Cook, 1983;Herodotus, 1984; Olmstead, 1948)
@@khosrowanoshiravan2979 and? He could be great and Tomiris could be great too
Prin acest film kazahii ne fură istoria
Dar se mai confirmă că mesageții fiind rude peregrine ale dacilor (În film express se vorbește despre daci, Argun fiind fiul unui rege dac), dominau și stepele dincolo de răul Nipru
Tiras tot e un nume de origine dacă !!!
@@VCH-RO
Cred ca pe Daniel Roxin am auzit ca Sarmisegetuza este defapt combinarea cuvintelor: Sarmatii ( Sarmi ) si (se) Getii ( get) impreuna (uza) ...
edit: Sarmatii fiind Sciti/masogeti
now that's a queen
A movie on a Scythian peoples, ooooo. I must admit, I am excited to see it, and the other comments here seem favorable and, bonus points for me, compliment historical accuracy. Costumes to my knowledge look very good, and I dont get to see many shows on the time period and place. Legendary campaign of Cyrus from the other perspective. Perhaps will be another Barbarians (just first season.), Well known story told as a Scythian triumph instead of a Persian disaster. I like it
Azərbaycandan sevgilər😍😍😍
Oo welcome to Kazakh stan👍👍👍 good job, i.m Kazakh ! ✊✊✊✊ Ata baba, kushti tusirgen , aibindi, sattilik ,alga!
Is this coming to australia at all? Looks pretty good would watch.
THANKS SATAFILM
SIZ BOYUK TURKSINIZ
Türkçe altyazı ekleyin lütfen. Karındaşlar. 😊🇹🇷
🇹🇷🇹🇲🇰🇿🇰🇬🇦🇿🇺🇿
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Kardes bu film turkce degil kazakcasi bile yok !!!!!!
@@mrkunaman neyce?
@@KeriN0s Sak dilindedir, kimse bilmez yagni dogru mu ya yanlis mi konusuyorlar ama kazaklar yapmis onun icin biraz sorunlar neye kazakca yok diye insanlar kiziyorlar
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Usually, people do not have the time or patience to read a book or history and are deceived by watching an easy story(a movie). This movie has a lot of historical flaws:
1. The people of the Massagetaes, Savromats(Sarmatian), and Dahae tribes were themselves Iranians, so their faces should look like Iranians.
2. The Turks and Mongols migrated to these lands almost ten centuries later due to climate change.
3. There are three different stories of the death of Cyrus from the three Greek historians:
*Ctesias; his history was based on Persian archives and state records, and therefore, was far superior to Herodotus' history.
*Herodotus' story of doubtful authenticity, is full of romantic stories, exotic anecdotes, court gossip, and lists that are of dubious reliability.
*Xenophon; claims that Cyrus died peacefully in his capital.
Of these three, the story of Ctesias is more plausible. Cyrus’s conquests in Central Asia were probably genuine, since a city in farthest Sogdiana was called Cyreschata or Cyropolis (see Britannica).
4- This movie does not even correspond to the story of Herodotus, and it tells some lies!
Tomyris's husband was Rustam and not Argun!
Spargapises had committed suicide in captivity, according to Herodotus!
5- This movie grossed $1.3 million against a production budget of $6.5 million. Give this money to Sasha Cohen(Borat) so that he does not make any movies against you.
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I agree with you
The Iranians nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
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The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
How dare you be logical?!
@@hisholiness4537 Dude, hope you are not brainwashed by Hollywood movies! All the countries whose names have the suffix "Stan" have had Iranic people. Because the suffix "Stan" means a state in different Iranian dialects. So these countries are brothers and no one is the enemy of the other and they don't trash out each other! Some of these countries:
Poland (Lehestan), Serbia(Serbstan), Hungary (Magyarstan), India( Hindustan), Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and...
*NOMAD DESCENDANTS OF THE GREAT STEPPE KAZAKHS* 🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿👏👏👏👏👏
Massagetae were shakas there descendants are afghans,north iranians,slavs and western Indians kazakhs are turks
I am a Hazara from Afghanistan, I would like to unite with Turkish brothers, I am sad that I am far from her
Grettings my Hazara sibling from 🇹🇷
We love all Turk brothers and sisters
Assalamaleikum Turkey brother
WOOW, that was a great movie. A strong warrior woman with justice in hear heart.
Fantastic super film !!!
I need a motivation clip of her!!
Türkiyede de vizyona girer umarım.
scythian have noting to do whit turks they was iranic
Brittanica
Scythian, also called Scyth, Saka, and Sacae, member of a nomadic people, originally of Iranian stock, known from as early as the 9th century BCE who migrated westward from Central Asia to southern Russia and Ukraine in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE. The Scythians founded a rich, powerful empire centred on what is now Crimea. The empire survived for several centuries before succumbing to the Sarmatians during the period from the 4th century BCE to the 2nd century CE.
Only the Kazakhs led a nomadic lifestyle, not the Persians, the Persians only wrote books
Классно)
I dont know about the language used in the movie but the masagetes used to live in the southern part of Romania, Bulgaria, Moldavia and maybe even a bit of Serbia. Has anybody downloaded the movie?
hi
language is Kazakh country of central Asia
turkic language .
I'm waiting for release
sorry for bad English
According to the actress: ALMIRA TURSYN, ACTRESS STARRING AS TOMIRIS: - "Of course, there were interesting and difficult moments. I got especially tired when I was wearing a suit. It's very hot in it. I got tired, even when I rode a horse. It was also difficult to speak in the Old Persian language because the tongue stumbles.
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@@mattbeets dude stop this bullshit propaganda. I am from Turkey and its been hundreds of years since Tomris lived her life and I still understand %60 of the movie without subtitles lol what the fuck are you trying to prove?? There is literally no one, no fucking one living name called Tomris in Iran while there are thousands of girls with the name Tomris in Turkey.. Their holding the arrow style in the movie, their horse riding style and the relationship with the animal or even their tombs(kurgan) are all fucking unique for Turks. Enough with bullshit propaganda. Just stop it.
nu mai vorbi prostii. Masagetae erau un popor iranian.
Не еби суки рашка вы всегда тьюрски народый историю переписать хотели
This is film from Kazakhstan.🇰🇿 Film language don't Kazakh language. Old Turk language.
really?
@@fabricio-agrippa-zarate1000 hehe, let them dream 😁
@@krixpop it's called proto turkish. I am from Turkey and even though it has been hundreds of years I can %50-60 understand what they speak in the movie.
@@krixpop while there are thousands of females named Tomris in Turkic states including my country just show me one Tomris anywhere but a Turkic state. Now you can keep being jealous and a butthurt
@@sinanermis5541
Seriously ?
Помогите найти пожалуйста где можно скачать/посмотреть полный фильм с английскими субтитрами. Друг не разговаривает ни на русском, ни на казахском, а очень хотел посмотреть этот фильм, а в просторах интернета я даже платную версию не нашла на английском, только этот трейлер и все!
*KAZAKHS ARE NOMAD DESCENDANTS OF THE GREAT STEPPE* 🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿👏
Cyrus was the King of the world, the King of Kings since there were no more kings in the realm (Brown, 1995;Olmstead, 1948; Herodotus, 1984). He was a genius military general and a brilliant political leader with grand ambitions, with a macro managerial approach, and a globlal desig His vision was to form a synthesis or universal civilization on cooperative and integrative bases incorporating with respect through inter-learning processes all cultures and civilizations of the time. He was also a man of great energy and talents but a man of wisdom and tolerance. His charismatic leadership transcended all boundaries of races, colors, religions, and nationalities. He was highly regarded by Persians and many non-Persians in all corners of the extended Empire. Persians called him the "Father,"
Greeks and Babylonians called him the "Law-Giver," and Jews called him the Savor and Deliverer (Cook, 1983;Herodotus, 1984; Olmstead, 1948)
Po slovam rezhissera eto byl iskusstvenno pridumannyi yazyk dlya fil'ma, smes' farsi I drevnetyurkskogo yazyka. Tak kak po slovam uchenyh skify I saki govorili na odnom iz indoiranskih yazykov (pravda dostovernyh pis'menmyh artefaktov na etom yazyke ne sohranilos' ), a deistviya fil'ma proiskhodyat primerno v 5 veke do nashei ery vo vremya pravleniya Kira Velikogo, a epoha tyurkov nastala v 5om veke nashei ery, eti 1000 let raznitsy prishlis' na epohu gunnov, kotorye skoree vsego govorili na proto-tyurkskom, na etom yazyke takje ne sokhranilis' i ne bylo kakih-libo pis'mennyh artefaktov, to, rezhissery vsego lish' sdelali svoyu versiyu. A dostovernye artefakty na drevnetyurkskom yazyke datiruyutsya vsego lish' 5-6m vekami nashei ery Orhono-Eniseiskimi runicheskimi stellami. To byl, yazyk goktyurkov (koktyurkov).
Voobshe-to6 po issledovaniyam genetika Klesova, prototurki uzhe byli 5 000 let nazat do nashey ery ! Poslushayte Klesova6 kotoryi oprovergaet nadumannuyu teoriyu akademicheskoy nauki
@@user-ge4co9dp2p Kakoi klesov. Geny u vseh lyudei byli I budut, yesche do togo kak lyudi stali delit'sya na natsii. Eti geny govoryat lish' o migratsii tselyh grupp lyudei po zemnomu sharu. No nichego bolee.
Where can I find the full movie with eng subs?
where do i go to watch the full movie? wow, it looks amazing!!!!
bizim filmleri de Kazak yönetmen çeksin bizimkiler kötü. Kazaklar çok iyi çekiyor efsane 🎖️ hatta Diriliş Ertuğrul un dövüş sahneleri için Kazaklar la çalışıldığını biliyorum. Adamlar çok iyi
Selvi boylum al yazmalım da onların gibi aklımda kalmış. Yanlis hatirlamiyorsam
@@duyksl1667 yazarı Cengiz Aytmatov Kırgız yazar
Гондон орта Азия ні билмесен сикпе Турция деген кейін пайда болған халық котак
Historic movie+Central Asia? Must watch
Renáta Béres
More like pan-turkic lies
Turanian Turk
Turan and iran are aryan nations and not relating to turks.
@@shapurthegreat8314 No. They had R1a-Z93 what is Turkic haplogroup.
Turanism is Ural-Altaic, not Indo-Persian
Renáta Béres
Iran and turan were like spartans and Athenians.
Their names ,beliefs , behaves and we have that in national persian book Shah-nameh all places and names are completely indo-european names near to avesten and sanskrit.
They were iranian. The words remain also near to persian. Scythians and sarmatians were iranic tribes and ossetians of georgia are descendants of them.
We don't have ural-altaic. It was abolished.
Central asia had iranic before.
Kharazm , Soghd (uzbekistan) , Tokharians , bukhara , Marv , Gotganj and all were persian citiea that their inhabitants assimilated oe killed because of turko mongols expansion.
R1a is for slavic , North indians , tajiks , iran and afghans who are aryans
And in the end story is a lie because other historians said otherwise about death of cyrus.
Is there a release date for this movie?
Can anyone please send me the link for downloading English subtitle
Türkiye'de vizyona girmesi dileğiyle...🙏🐺
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Oo mal ,kury
Акжан Бекжанов тусинбедим
Акжан Бекжанов кімді мал деп тұрсың, есуас?!
Tomiris is Iranic
Only the Kazakhs led a nomadic lifestyle, not the Persians, the Persians only wrote books
Where can I buy or rent this?? Can't find it! 😓
Is there any way to buy that movie somewhere?
Massagatae people on the west side of Indus were known as Mahajatt ( sanskirt translation of Massagatae ) .
And present day Jats are decendents of Mahajatt.
The big problem with claiming Tomiris by modern Iranians is that those Scythians were actually the enemies of the Persians and this was not just a single battle. Their nomadic lifestyle and culture were very completely different from those of the settled Persians. These nomads called their land Turan. Turan was the enemy of Iran. The Turanians of the Great Steppe absorbed a lot of later migrants from the East including the Huns, Avars and Turkic peoples. They gradually became Turcified but this happened over hundreds of years. You can see that in the features of the skulls of the Scythians from the burial mounds as they show a gradual transition from Indo-European to more Asian shapes. The genetics of modern Turkic peoples, especially the Kazakhs shows great genetic diversity revealing this multilayered history. For example, my own tribe the Argyn, all males carry the G1 Y chromosome haplotype, which came originally from West Persia. Also, culturally and spiritually Kazakhs are much more similar to those ancient Turanians, while Uzbeks are more similar to Persians. So, yes, Tomiris is very much relevant to modern Kazakhs as the Scythians were among our ancestors and their nomadic culture lived on through the ages and became the Kazakh culture. Just like the Scythian women, Kazakh women were brave warriors who often fought alongside their men and they were not slaves to their men wrapped in cloth as in Persia.
Jat from india
You are from which country?
@@sunilnain1878 India
@@sunilnain1878 yes
Түркі тілінде субтитр шығарсаңыз жақсы болар еді, себебі сол елден көрермен толып тұр.
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Турикше ма?
she united tribes from Armenia, Turkey, Georgia, Russia, Azerbaijan, and East Europe.The massagetae were a branch from the great thracian tribes such as dacians, getians, etc.At the shores of modern Romania we have a ancient city called Tomis, firt believed to be of greek settlers but most likely constructed for her.Massagetae were indo-europeans that used to live in the valley that is now the Black sea, after the Great flood the tribes divided and reached all the shores of the flooded valley that became the Black Sea in order to survive.In the northern part of the sea the massagetae were expanding from east Romania to the Ural Mountains.In the south, parts of Turkey and Asia.She is a part of the legends of every nation living around the Black Sea.Indo-europeans were a mix of asian and europeeans, some of the first people that spreaded in Asia and Europe.All after the flood, they survived mostly due to the combined asian and european fighting and riding skills.legend sais they invented the horse sattle and the sattle ladders, making them more stable when riding and using their bow simoultaneously.Even better than mongols, but we talking thousands of years apart.
Exactly- Masagetai (Latin- masagetae) were one of many tribes of Guds (Goths in English, Geths in Latin, Los Godos- in Spanish). In Romania, Bulgaria territory lived Thracs, the Southern Guds. Dacia- later Kingdom of them. Only 2 languages left now- Lithuanian and Latvian, with some words in Romanian language. Goths WERE NOT Germans. Trakai- the town in Lithuania. Jurate Statkute de Rosales the researcher
What the hell are you talking about? The were Scythians living all across Central Asia - all the way to the Altai mountains. Their heartland was actually in Central Asia and not Europe. There is a valley where the largest of the kurgans are located where Scythian kings and queens were buried - and it is near the Almaty, Kazakhstan.
Stop fucking lying! Okay, Tomoris massagets, Scythians are turkic
@@aabzhano
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
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The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
Where can I watch this?
Tengri biz menen.
I don't understand the controversy, Kazakhs are the modern inheritors of the steppe and its culture, why shouldn't they be allowed to make a film about it?
They aren't tho. Kazakhs are Turkic. Scythians and all Scythian tribes including the Massagetae, Saka, Sarmatians, Alans, Iasygez were all Iranian people who spoke Eastern Iranian languages, related to modern day languages like Ossetian, Pashto, Pamiri, Yaghnobi etc. There is controversy because this movie makes the Scythians look like Kazakhs and speak the Kazakh language. When in reality, Scythians resembled Europeans, they had high Indo-European ancestry and most of them had blonde and red hair with light features. They were Iranian just like Cyrus
@@vagabond57097 sheshennin koti suka
@@vagabond57097But they were assimilated in 500-600x years by turkic people that came from Altay mountains
@vagabond57097 Also now you people are mad that a movie has the wrong race of historical characters.
You are mad they are not european white.
In reality the massagetae were not white, iranian, red headed, blonde or indo European that is a lie from the post Columbus 1492 europe colonized world. . White washing history.
Most iranians are blonde with red hair today? No!
You are angry that the movie is depicting massagetae looking as the people that live in that region today... pure hypocrisy,
I can name you hundreds of films and regions today in which Europeans do the same thing or claim the people living there today are the same people as ancient times like.. the Egyptians for one example.
Apparently historical colonization
Only happened to white people.
Europeans love depicting everyone as white.
Je rigole car chaque fois que le mérite en revient aux TURKS on invente des conneries pour contournés ce palmarès, Attila le hun de l'ouest était Turk, gengis khan descendant et l'héritier des huns de l'est donc TURK, les ottomans était turc... Tomris khatun était turcique arrété de déformer l'histoire, l'histoire revient a ceux qui l'on écrit soyez respectueux !!!
Queen Tomiris got support with heavy cavalry from Lechistan (Poland) in final battle against Cyrus the Great. That's why she won. That's real history, we all know Tomiris story in Lechistan. Greeting for Masagots ( East Steppe Gots).
if they teach real history their imperial made future will crack ^^ Poland and most of North places already Kypcaks lands with some other nomads..even in 2021 many Kypcak Dna alive in poland
@@Ouzconqueror true
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According to Dandamayev, the stories told by Greek historians have more of the color and smell of a novel than the description of a real event. Although we do not know the exact truth of Cyrus' death, it is clear that he was buried in Pasargadae.
What makes you think that these stories ar etolk by Greek historians? Worth mentioning Scythians weren't Greek, but rather their enemies.
@@imanengineer2881 Sythians weren't Turks
The Iranians (Scythians) nor the Turks have nothing to do with the Thracians (Getae / Goths /Ghetti /Massagetae/Tisagetae/Tiragetae /etc. ) !
You idiots, don't you see what blacks Iranians are ???!!!
Go to the Ophthalmologist and get eye surgery !
👇
ruclips.net/video/KMmGFGPZNZU/видео.html
The Greeks put the word "Massa" in front of the word "Getae" in order to be able to locate that tribe!
Thus: Massagetae, Tissagetae, Burigetae, Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians etc.
Here are some examples !
BUT THEY WERE ALL GETTS !
Who were the Getae ?
From Herodotus we learn that: "The Geto-Dacians are the bravest and most righteous of the Thracians ! "
We also learn from Herodotus that: "The Thracians are the most numerous after the Indians ! "
The Massagetae did not want to use Iron, they used Brass and Gold!
They were described as having splashy hair and white skin!
They were part of the same great Thracian nation!
There were still Tissagetae, Burigetae,Tiragetae, Geto-Dacians, etc.
@@ShahanshahShahin they surely were
One of the best
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Arkadaslar turkce altyazi talep edip durmayin, film zaten turkce, tarihi eski turkcede, kokumuze donme zamani geldi, en onemli cumle sonunda, Tomris:" Hey, ozguryurek, turan erleri, Tek Tek (bolunmus halde) bizlerin yuzerine dusman galip gelir, birlesirsek dusmani kana bogariz. Hep beraber dusmana nasil savasilmasi gerektigini gosterelim"
Adam Ata
Scythians were eastern iranic nomads.
And this story is a fake one of herodotus.
Perfect trailer 🇰🇿❤🇹🇷
Teşekkür ederim kazakistan ❤️🇹🇷
eski turkçe kullanılıyor filmde orhunyazıtlarındaki kullanılan. ne Türkiye, ne Kazakistan ne de başka türk ülkesi artık kullanmıyor eski türkçeyi
where is this movie available?
Maşallah çok güzel, Türk'ün iftihar tablosu
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