Madara vs New Gokage: Vs Battle Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Sorry for the poor quality from Troy but this video is gonna be out analysis of EMS Madara vs the Gokage of the boruto era. We go over the scaling of momoshiki, kaguya and other otsutsuki.
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  • @xSimplyTroy
    @xSimplyTroy 2 года назад +33

    My bad idk what happened to my mic y’all still a good video 😭😭 (Spencer pin this ☹️)

    • @Sycodi3sel
      @Sycodi3sel 2 года назад +1

      Troy how can I join your server

    • @TheHolyKnightJay
      @TheHolyKnightJay 2 года назад +3

      Southern reptile

    • @Sycodi3sel
      @Sycodi3sel 2 года назад +1

      @@TheHolyKnightJay okay how do I join that I need a link

    • @nebbyoon
      @nebbyoon 2 года назад +1

      Alligator + Ratio

  • @youfirst6611
    @youfirst6611 2 года назад +18

    “It’s kind of silly how theses new 5 kage would just come in, and beat his ass”
    I don’t know why it’s so funny. Maybe the delivery of the line or the truth behind it but I don’t care it’s f-ing hilarious. The Boruto Kage are built different.

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      If reacting makes you relative then everybody that reacts to Boruto is Kaguya level

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo pretty much

    • @yudasrain4774
      @yudasrain4774 2 года назад +3

      @@HC-gm4fo be more specific in terms of what like seed or strength and current boruto Claps jubbidara

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 6 месяцев назад

      @@HC-gm4foKaguya is overrated

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 6 месяцев назад

      @@allaboutthemurzic By who?

  • @minatonamikaze3862
    @minatonamikaze3862 2 года назад +16

    I'l' give the Gokage props for taking on Kinshiki, they really held a good fight.

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад

      They beat him up

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      nah only gaara and chojuro did good

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад +2

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg korutschi sent him flying and darui tagged him with gaara

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@footy743 kurostuchi off guarded him and wen did darui tag anyone???

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад +1

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg in a kenjutsu fight and she still sealed him in place

  • @insanoibro6331
    @insanoibro6331 2 года назад +2

    You made my day much better Spencer with a new vid

  • @sirmenace8161
    @sirmenace8161 2 года назад +12

    Glad someone finally said it, ppl love to overhype madara but realistically he just doesn’t have the feats to beat all 4 kage
    Even 3 eyed madara doesn’t really compare to even the weakest form of Momoshiki & kinshiki or even kaguya for that matter
    The gokage are reacting to & keeping up & even damaging ppl stated to be above kaguya + they can seal him, not even a contest at this point

    • @DieHard1912
      @DieHard1912 2 года назад

      They never really do anything. Guy did more against madara than the kage against momo or kinshiki, in fact to fight kinshiki it took the help of (sasuke)

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      the only one's that reacted to kin or momo is spsm naruto / base naruto , chojuro and gaara

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      also u can make arguments for madara being in the same tier as kaguya but I'm not saying he wins just like i wont say eos naruto wins against kaguya

    • @sirmenace8161
      @sirmenace8161 2 года назад +2

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg they reacted to kinshiki & even took an attack from kinshiki & chojiro literally pierced kinshiki’s body with his jutsu before having kurosochi seal him
      So by default they can pierce & seal 3 eyed madara & they have the speed & reaction times to keep up that madara + kaguya before she got exponentially stronger she was basically 3 eyed madara + the beyond 10 tails lvl charka she got from the alliance so she’d be far above madara technically but he’s just a better fighter

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      Boruto reacts to fused momo 🤯

  • @Meek
    @Meek 2 года назад +7

    The story was hyping up hashirama just for him to get blitzed by a Walmart Otsutsuki 😭😭😭

  • @footy743
    @footy743 2 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this🔥🔥🔥

  • @jamesking9214
    @jamesking9214 2 года назад +1

    Yes a new spener vid

  • @zerospeed1498
    @zerospeed1498 2 года назад +14

    I'd say the Kaguya that fought so6p and his brother was far stronger since she had most of the chakra in the world her son's having the rest but after so6p gave other people chakra it's diffuse the potency

    • @godzillakingofkaiju6366
      @godzillakingofkaiju6366 2 года назад +1

      That might be true but as soo as Kaguya had made that huge truth seeker Orb after turning back to normal. Black Zetsu out right says that she’s exponentially stronger and faster than she was before, Zetsu said that in the manga I’m not sure if it was said in the anime

    • @Glitch1125
      @Glitch1125 2 года назад +1

      Wront

    • @sirmenace8161
      @sirmenace8161 2 года назад +3

      The kaguya that fought her sons would be the weakest since she doesn’t have the shinobi alliance charka which was stated beyond 10 tails lvls of charka + she didn’t have the juubi inside her so she’s undoubtedly weaker + she got exponentially stronger once she condensed after using the giant truth seeker orb

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад +3

      @@sirmenace8161 Facts war arc kaguya is stronger than the one a thousand years ago

    • @jocoolshow
      @jocoolshow 2 года назад +1

      Sage of Six Paths said that Madara was near his level of power
      Madara gets amped massively to the point where his body damn near explodes and becomes Base Kaguya. Base Kaguya then absorbs the chakra from the Infinite Tsukuyomi and gets exponentially stronger
      A weaker verison of the So6P and his brother defeated Kaguya in the past. The difference is massive

  • @angrydaniel2905
    @angrydaniel2905 2 года назад +2

    Let’s gooooooo!

  • @nopenope5025
    @nopenope5025 2 года назад +14

    I’m predicting madara will lose badly

    • @sasukeuchiha4814
      @sasukeuchiha4814 2 года назад

      Garra Carrie’s but yea

    • @adib2219
      @adib2219 2 года назад

      I think you predicted correctly.

    • @pcsheep3978
      @pcsheep3978 2 года назад

      Madara’s limbo clones will one shot the kage’s easily. They can’t see Madara’s limbo clones lol

    • @pcsheep3978
      @pcsheep3978 2 года назад

      Watch Seththeprogrammers video lol

    • @UnknownUser-iy7yb
      @UnknownUser-iy7yb 2 года назад

      @@pcsheep3978 I mean they do lose to limbo clones, but they ain’t getting one shot, they are extremely durable but they would lose in the end

  • @ehudezra4610
    @ehudezra4610 2 года назад +9

    Great vid
    The Gokage in Boruto the strongest Shinobi outside of base Naruto and base Sharingan Sasuke based on Shikamaru's statement+movie novelization statements(which is cannon Kishimoto wrote it and it was confirmed in an interview)
    They're still far removed from Naruto and Sasuke
    If i would've to scale them it would be like
    Naruto>Gaara>Kurotsuchi>Darui> Chujoro
    The Ku stuff is easily debunkable for 2 reasons
    1 Onoki could've got exponentially stronger which supported by him stated to be destroying stuff on an atomic levels+to have tested those creatures for 5+ years
    2 those creatures got unstable in moments of rage look at Ku vs team 7, Sekki vs Mitsuki, The female vs Sarada and Boruto, the red hair vs Boruto Cho Cho Sarada
    3 Ku was stated by Onoki to be created to fight Otsutsuki
    4 Kurotsuchi stated that she didn't try
    5 Kurotsuchi supposedly giving up when Ku revealed his face
    With Chujoro it easier to debunk it
    He was initially intended to assassinate them but told by Boruto that the situation is scuffle between punks and he tried to teach them a lesson that it's important to get cut in a sword fight
    So those Kages narratively much much stronger then their predecessors
    The only 1s that can scale to the kages based on statements/feats/narrative are Kakashi(who can keep up with base Koji), Sakura(based on portrayal), Rock Lee (who Sasuke regret not bringing along with the Kages to fight the Otsutsuki), Shikamaru (Base Naruto+the Kages can't get out of his shadow paralysis)
    Boruto just has insane power cliffs were almost every old gen character got monsterably stronger probably because of the combination of a 14 years timeskip post the last events and the potential new Otsutsukis
    Also Sakura for example (bc people use Naruto Gaiden to try to scale her above the Gokage) scaling above them due to better feats vs Shin then base Naruto and Base Sharingan Sasuke is irrelevant since Naruto has trained with the Tatsuki barrier team after those events because he wasn't ready for Momoshiki around the time of Naruto Gaiden he literally said he can't protect the village like this
    Shikamaru being above the Kages is also debunkable since Naruto need to go Kurama mod+6 path sage mode to break free out of the shadow paralysis Shikamaru doesn't have scaling vs Base Naruto...base Naruto scales to a supressed fused Momoshiki who scale above base Momoshiki which the Kages can press
    The Kages would just fuck up Madara they can seal him and are much stronger physically and way faster and all of them better in Taijutsu
    And War arc Kaguya is exponentially stronger then post fruit Kaguya who's exponentially stronger then pre fruit Kaguya and she still tried to create a world of White Zetsu to amp her chakra
    Also Toneri watched all the events with the Juubi and thought he can fuck up Naruto("your punch would never reach me") based on what he saw(he saw the use of the Juubi) was also stated to be the strongest enemy and Kaguya being stated to be the biggest threat(although can be use since Kaguya vs Toneri is much closer debate then Kaguya vs base Momoshiki) can mean that she was closer to fulfill her plans and also the threshold was much lower with Naruto and Sasuke being much much weaker in the war
    Also saying Momoshiki ate fodder fruits is blatantly false he literally stated "what an adequate harvest" i guess in the minds of the blind it's fodder
    Also Kinshiki literally investigate Kaguya's dimensions so Momoshiki implying she's weak in comparison by saying she's a shame to the clan is more credible

    • @ehudezra4610
      @ehudezra4610 2 года назад

      @@sarveshnathan7559 exactly

    • @onizukasensei5321
      @onizukasensei5321 2 года назад +2

      @@sarveshnathan7559 no one said she scaled above them boy I swear this kid will find any way to shit on sakura even if the person doesn't bring it up🗿🗿
      And sure she probably doesn't scale above them
      There are some iffy arguments to say she does but again they are iffy

    • @onizukasensei5321
      @onizukasensei5321 2 года назад

      @@sarveshnathan7559 and the kid seriously trying to say "mere scalpels" what a funny guy

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      "The Gokage in Boruto the strongest Shinobi outside of base Naruto and base Sharingan Sasuke based on Shikamaru's statement+movie novelization statements(which is cannon Kishimoto wrote it and it was confirmed in an interview" the movie novelization isnt cannon to the manga which is a higher canonicity than any other considered cannon aspect
      "If i would've to scale them it would be like
      Naruto>Gaara>Kurotsuchi>Darui> Chujoro"
      if i were to scale it would be like , kcm2+spsm adult naruto > base naruto >~ gaara > chojuro > kurostcuhi ( cause i guess she punches hard? ) > darui

    • @yunotheactivist49
      @yunotheactivist49 2 года назад

      Darui, Base naruto, Gaara, and Sasuke are stated to be the number 1 etc etc against momoshiki so Darui and Gaara would be > Kurotsuchi and Chojuro or I’m trippin

  • @frostbittten
    @frostbittten 2 года назад +7

    In our russian community people still think that 17 years old Naruto and Sasuke are stronger then themself at 30, that Madara/Obito stronger than Isshiki and Kaguya, that current 5 kages are the weakest kages of ALL time. I`m gonna fight them (͡ ͡° ͜ つ ͡͡°)

  • @BigGuyJojo
    @BigGuyJojo 2 года назад

    all your videos are always amazing keep it up!

  • @tectonical5347
    @tectonical5347 2 года назад +8

    Your arguments make sense but holy shit the fact that these random ass Mfs that should be slightly stronger than jonin can beat juubi madara

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      Chunin exam Boruto solo’s shippuden

    • @insanoibro6331
      @insanoibro6331 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo well idk about valley of the end Naruto and Sasuke

    • @insanoibro6331
      @insanoibro6331 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo I think ur right

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo Facts these shippuden dickriders dont get it

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      Shikadai solo’s Madara no diff

  • @StriveOveRDriVe
    @StriveOveRDriVe 2 года назад +1

    need that kaguya vid spener 🐐

  • @travis4256
    @travis4256 2 года назад +7

    Realistically madara slams but using powerscaling ig they slam

    • @xmpl4810
      @xmpl4810 2 года назад

      Realistically he wins against both adult Naruto and sasuke individually high diff but via scaling he would losero mere jonin + in boruto

    • @travis4256
      @travis4256 2 года назад +1

      @@xmpl4810 debatable but i can seeit

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад +1

      @@xmpl4810 Adult naruto and sasuke stomp hard asf are you on drugs

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад

      @@xmpl4810 Naruto and Sasuke will stomp tf out of Madara what are you smoking?

    • @xmpl4810
      @xmpl4810 2 года назад

      @@footy743 nah
      3 eyed madara is too much for them

  • @sungjin-woo8298
    @sungjin-woo8298 2 года назад +4

    About ninjutsu on juubi jinshuriki. I dont think momo was ever statwd to be a juubi jinshuriki he does it the better way he eats the fruit. Many fruits

  • @nebbyoon
    @nebbyoon 2 года назад

    I see those edits jay

  • @jocoolshow
    @jocoolshow 2 года назад +1

    The 4 Kage scale relative to Kinshiki and Base Momoshiki to the point where they both legitimately had the threat of dying.
    Kinshiki and Momoshiki individually >>> Infinite Tsukuyomi Chakra Absorbed Kaguya who's exponentially >>>>> Base Kaguya who's >>> 3 Eyed Madara to the point where Madara had to get outside amps that were 10 tails+ level and damn near exploded.
    Even if the Kage can't deal with limbo clones, they're literally exponentially above Madara in all stats. Taijutsu could overcome his regen if they hit the right area and there too fast for him to counter them
    Also, shout out to my boy Darui for fighting them without using a single ninjutsu while the other Kage did use different jutsu

  • @vaibhavmadan7125
    @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад +2

    also kurtsuchi doesnt 1 tap kinshii kinshiki survives that attack and is a bit ruffed up .
    so kurtsuchi hits him with her hardest taijutsu and it doesnt even damage him all it does is ruffed him up it doesnt even brusise him all it does is damage a bit of his cloths so no kurtsuchi doesnt scale to kinshiki . like sasuke has to damage kinshiki with his chidori and weaken him so that ages can work together to even seal him ( Not kill him just seal him ) .

  • @marzman4
    @marzman4 2 года назад

    The mic quality is superb

  • @1ccfkennels-
    @1ccfkennels- Год назад +1

    Bro im glad yall stopped making videos yall are tripping talking about Madara fanboys yall are Momo fan boys gtfoh Kaguya never said she feared them wtf in shippuden Kaguya flashback show 3 of them thats why she needed an army . Sasuke saw 2 of them thats why he stated its a threat greater than Kaguya u fan boys need to stop yall have no proof she ever feared them yall have know proof that Momo is stronger yall just going of the hype of Boruto

  • @saronsl8750
    @saronsl8750 2 года назад +2

    4:36 Ngl I don’t understand this point mainly because Momoshiki is not a juubi jinchuuriki like at all. He does not have a ten tails inside him and I think pretty clear that. This earth’s ten tails is the thing that give kaguya Óbito and Madara there healing abilities and their immunity to ninjutsu they all share the same thing. Momoshiki just an otsutsuki so that immunity would not apply to him. The ten tails of earth just give abilities that otsutsuki themself don’t normally have. Which is why they want it in the first place.

    • @D-MAZE
      @D-MAZE 2 года назад

      Yh he has eaten chakra fruit was his point giving him similar powers just not the gara king and the guidebook implies this because it says all otsutuki have 6paths sage mode sensory capabilities equal or on par to naruto so it’s clearly saying they have similar skills and abilities it changes nothing the kage stomp hard

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад

      @@D-MAZE can you show me the scan?

    • @DwellHiden
      @DwellHiden 8 месяцев назад

      not how it works

  • @solo8123
    @solo8123 2 года назад

    Didn’t hear y’all go over limbo clones but I agree with everything else especially the retcons

  • @rakim7575
    @rakim7575 2 года назад

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @footy743
    @footy743 2 года назад +3

    7:30 wouldn't madara absorb it like Momo did?

    • @canned3880
      @canned3880 2 года назад

      Kage have chakara absorption too

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад

      @@canned3880 didn't answer my question I know they have it but he will be able to absorb it like momoshiki did

    • @canned3880
      @canned3880 2 года назад

      @@footy743 idk it would have to happen

  • @witrex7764
    @witrex7764 2 года назад

    I made a post on reddit about new kage without naruto stomping old kages and got downvoted into oblivion

  • @klemen3166
    @klemen3166 2 года назад +1

    Gokage don't scale to momo and kin but they still beat madara's ass

  • @russellyoung609
    @russellyoung609 Год назад

    mfs need to stop lyng on kaguya she lterally made zetsu to handle momo lmao hes fodder

  • @vaibhavmadan7125
    @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад +1

    kurtsuchi doesnt react to momo she punches momo after he has already kicked chojiro and was justs standing still
    if u now anything about momentum momoshiki completely transfer his momentum when he kick him .
    so no kurtsuchi nvr reacted to fused momo she only punched him after he had punched chojiro and didnt have any momentum .

  • @munibhatab6084
    @munibhatab6084 2 года назад +1

    Madara toys with them then kills ‘em all at once

    • @Josh_M13
      @Josh_M13 2 года назад

      Stop livin in Shippuden

    • @munibhatab6084
      @munibhatab6084 2 года назад

      @@Josh_M13 I'm not... Even kishimoto admits the fights in Boruto are dialed down. Plus Madara has many hacks abilities they didn't go over.

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад

      @@munibhatab6084 You’re living in shippuden
      This whole “everything in boruto is weaker than Shippuden” mindset is bullshit
      Shippuden got powercliffed

    • @munibhatab6084
      @munibhatab6084 2 года назад

      @@allaboutthemurzic I’m not… madara has more impressive feats that’s it. I’m a boruto fan and I read it monthly. The only impressive feat the gokage did was barely tagging momo and stop kin from moving (he even escaped) I can argue that Madara can do this on his own and then some.

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад

      @@munibhatab6084 The gokage are stronger than the ones madara faced
      They have feats against Momoshiki who Kaguya was scared shitless of
      Kaguya is above Madar

  • @strangekitchenappliances2314
    @strangekitchenappliances2314 2 года назад

    lets get this 1k

  • @an0rangutan
    @an0rangutan 2 года назад

    Bro, Chojuro's sword OP af tho?
    Ranking of Ninja Tools/Weapons in Naruto/Boruto? How's the Totsuka Blade stack up to Sword of Nunoboko? How's Jashin's Scythe scale to the Executioner Blade?
    Curious how they all compare.

  • @BlackBoltLive
    @BlackBoltLive 2 года назад

    Times like this that i hate youtube for taking away dislikes

    • @CFSpener
      @CFSpener  2 года назад +1

      Damn, I also hate taking away dislikes but I’d love to hear your criticism of the video if you’ll type it out

  • @D-MAZE
    @D-MAZE 2 года назад

    The kage stomp

  • @Thnkrgames
    @Thnkrgames 2 года назад +4

    Shikamaru could hold down Kakuzu, that doesn't mean he scaled to kakuzu in shipudden. Just because your jutsu is effective doesn't make you as strong as the other person.
    Momoshiki pretty much 1 shot the Kage's. No one outside Naruto and Sasuke have shown any feat on par with dealing with meteors or fighting on par with the perfect susanoo.
    This video was devoid of consistent logic. Madara dropping 10 country sized meteors that took sasukes flying perfect susanoo to destroy wipes the floor with any of them LOW DIFFICULTY.

    • @sirmenace8161
      @sirmenace8161 2 года назад +1

      Fair point but that wouldn’t matter regardless, the kage are physically keeping with kinshiki & Momoshiki & are not able to use jutsu on Momoshiki
      The second they were able to use jutsu on kinshiki they took care of him, these are enemies Beyond kaguya who is alot stronger than 3 eyed madara
      If Kurisochi can send kinshiki flying then she’s sending madara’s susano flying, madara doesn’t have the feats to prove he’s beating kage who can somewhat keep up with fused Momoshiki, only thing madara can use is limbo but that’s assuming the kage don’t just rush & seal him like they did kinshiki who’s WAY Way stronger than 3 eyed madara

    • @yunotheactivist49
      @yunotheactivist49 2 года назад +1

      Momoshiki was only able to oneshot the kage when he fused with momo, in base Darui boxes wit that nigga and gives him the hands, yes you have to be strong enough to seal the nigga has Kurotsuchi has to use her chakra to pin that nigga kinshiki down and kinshiki do be a big ass nigga😱, the kage are able to box with beings stronger than Kaguya whom is stated over a juubi amped Juudara so the scaling would be kage~momo and kin>Kaguya>Juudara>that nigga Madara

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад +1

      actually it does . its already impled that if a opponent is stronger then shikaru than he or she can resist and brea out of the jutsu like hidan and kakzu did also shiamru nvr cought kakauzu in the shadow parlasys only hidan .

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@yunotheactivist49 why is kin > kaguya .

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@sirmenace8161 "the kage are physically keeping with kinshiki & Momoshiki & are not able to use jutsu on Momoshiki " when u say kage u mean , naruto , gaara and chojuro??? , "The second they were able to use jutsu on kinshiki they took care of him," yea after he was OFF GUARDED TWICE ( by kurostuchi and then blind sided by sasuke while he's in AIR and his movements would be restricted ) , "these are enemies Beyond kaguya who is alot stronger than 3 eyed madara" kinshiki pretty much isnt above kaguya and kaguya isnt " alot stronger than 3 eyed madara "
      "If Kurisochi can send kinshiki flying then she’s sending madara’s susano flying" off guarded * , prove she can send madara's susanoo flying witout having to off guard him , "madara doesn’t have the feats to prove he’s beating kage who can somewhat keep up with fused Momoshiki" the kage got 1 tapped by momo , "only thing madara can use is limbo but that’s assuming the kage don’t just rush & seal him like they did kinshiki who’s WAY Way stronger than 3 eyed madara" they would needed gaara and chojuro at the for front in order to do this and also prove kinshiki is above 3 eyed madara

  • @1ccfkennels-
    @1ccfkennels- Год назад

    Bro yall saying thats sad yall literally talking about a 2v1 is sad yall need to stop

  • @Norfkhan
    @Norfkhan 2 года назад

    When we doing Sage Naruto vs Current Deku

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      deku stomps
      deku > prime all might that can destroy mountains
      PAIN ARC SAGE NARUTO CANT SO DEKU WINS .

  • @uchihafan849
    @uchihafan849 2 года назад

    Kurotoschi is debunkable but the other scale to momoshiki

  • @Dragoncraft14
    @Dragoncraft14 2 года назад +2

    Fardara vs goatkages

  • @talus.3267
    @talus.3267 2 года назад

    I would love to see adult sasuke against juudara. ppl just saying that juudara is way stronger than adult sasuke/naruto which is not true + they say that sasuke cant do shit against his immortality

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 2 года назад

      The fact that Madara died means it's possible either take that immortality away from him, or that by immortality it just means very hard to kill. Honestly, the bigger problem would be the regeneration because without that Madara could easily receive the Hidan treatment.

    • @talus.3267
      @talus.3267 2 года назад

      @@numberhunter62 Nah he didnt die he basically transformed to kaguya. but actually kaguya died so both arent immortal and never were. they also said that kaguya was delusional in the databooks. We just know he can regen around 1/3 of his body and rn sasuke is just way too strong for madara to handle. he would literally oneshot him.

  • @Blessom
    @Blessom 2 года назад

    This only happens because of boruto 🗑 scaling(Juudara

  • @grindtogreatness-gtg
    @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад +3

    momoshiki isn't a juubi jiinchuriki so? ninjutsu works just fine , shikamaru holding down the kage with SP could jus be considered an off guard feat since 1) they are arguing and distracted as such 2) i highly doubt any of them is actively at their firmest / strongest for a meeting like this and this " feat " doesn't now prove he has speed to keep up with ppl like fused momo just he has a jutsu ability to hold down the 5 kage while their completely off guard and since the kcm mode has condense chakra to over come this unlike naruto's base would be the justification as to why base naruto couldn't get out and sure if u want to say shikamaru can off guard SP all the 5 kage fine but in an actual fight via shikamaru SP having 0 speed feats he'd jus get beat up
    the reason why madara cant handle all that chakra IS BECAUSE at a rapid paste ZETSU is forcing that chakra into him it's shown in naruto the body has a chakra limit to how much u can in take in a small amount of time , arguably if madara was to slowly take that chakra in without anyone forcing him he would prob survive
    i agree chojuro via scaling to kinshiki since he reacted to him twice then got blitzed would prob be faster than madara since kinshiki scales to fatigued sasuke who is narratively implied to be above his war arc self but that doesn't mean he has AP or DC to just completely one tap
    kurostuchi literally is shown off guarding kinshiki while he is in mid motion about to kill chojuro that isn't a feat but sure she was able to punch kinshiki while he is off guard and sent him flying into the branches of the God Tree and when does kurostcuhi react to fused momo? we see momo reacting to her then she gets slammed and yes she does survive but that doesn't get us anywhere
    gaara has definite scaling i would agree with this and would absolutely one tap all of shipuuden and madara
    darui has no scaling at all and the only feat people take out of context isn't even a feat for darui it's us base momo casually while flying reacts to darui

  • @lellis4778
    @lellis4778 2 года назад

    I thought the video was suppose to be with six

  • @pcsheep3978
    @pcsheep3978 2 года назад

    What about Madara’s limbo clones? Can’t they one shot the kages since they can’t see the limbos?

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 2 года назад

      If Madara himself, can't one shoot them, then Madara's Limbos wouldn't be able to.
      But I believe they were using Valley of the End Madara who doesn't have Limbo Clones.

  • @KeybladeWielder100
    @KeybladeWielder100 2 года назад

    I don't deny the Gokage would stomp him but what would they do about Limbo

    • @footy743
      @footy743 2 года назад

      Why will it be active? He needs to activate it and shikamaru with his shadows can cover a large area

  • @traviswright2648
    @traviswright2648 2 года назад +1

    My headcannon is so far from what we've seen kaguy didn't show her presence to the clan till Momo and Kin found the Shinobi realm. Ok so far so simple. What if they didn't know her true strength. Like how would they tho. Of course I'm probably missing something but again unless they have met her after she ate the fruit. Also their scaling for world's to harvest fruits is wack and makes sense why they never use it as much.

    • @yunotheactivist49
      @yunotheactivist49 2 года назад

      In the anime urashiki watched Kaguya the whole time in the manga the narrative of momo and kinshiki being stronger is based off kaguya’s perception of them not their perception of kaguya

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@yunotheactivist49 pretty sure urashiki/momo and kinshiki didnt know what dimension kaguya was in , where is it said urashiki was watchin the fight? wasnt that toneri
      the narrative kinda supports kinshiki / urashiki and base momo being stronger than kaguya as a collective not individually but fused momo would definitely be above kaguya

    • @ihatenagi
      @ihatenagi 2 года назад

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg sasuke at a weaker point was saying him > kaguya casually

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@ihatenagi no he did not he said he would protect the shinobi world at all cost even if he dies from kaguya level threats protecting =/= above , and the reason for " kaguya level threats " pertains to people who are going to destroy the shinboi world or destroy the world like kaguya did with her etso , he nevers once said he has an ability or speed or Ap or DC or anythin of that sort to kill or fight against kaguya or anythin ur tryin to imply

    • @ihatenagi
      @ihatenagi 2 года назад

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg no he did in the light novel of the last which is canon he said he can take care of it by himself

  • @pre4291
    @pre4291 2 года назад

    Fun fact: Juubidara never injured or overwhelmed six paths Naruto or Sasuke

    • @dillianwhyte443
      @dillianwhyte443 2 года назад

      And they never injured him? 2 eyed madara

    • @pre4291
      @pre4291 2 года назад +1

      @@dillianwhyte443 yeah they did

    • @dillianwhyte443
      @dillianwhyte443 2 года назад

      @@pre4291 when did they injury 2 eyed madara I'm interested. Havent seen it in while.

    • @dillianwhyte443
      @dillianwhyte443 2 года назад

      @@pre4291 seth made a good video which doesnt actually downplay madara. You should watch it.

    • @skittles664
      @skittles664 Год назад

      @@dillianwhyte443 Sasuke cut him in half and stabbed him with a sword.Naruto hit him with a lava rasenshuriken.

  • @ichigoglazer24
    @ichigoglazer24 2 года назад +1

    Bro this video is hilarious I’d say Sakura scales above them and right below naruto and sasuke tbh gaara might contest her but I don’t think so

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      chojuro slams sakura so bad it's not even funny

    • @gamerbuckley1014
      @gamerbuckley1014 2 года назад

      Sasuke says that him and 5 kage are thr best team to deal with momo and kin that implies Sakura is weaker

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@gamerbuckley1014 sasuke NVR SAID THAT SHIKAMRU DID AND LET ME ASK U 1 THING WHEN HAS SHIKAMRU SEEN SAKURA GO ALL OUT ALSO THIS STATEMENT IS BS BC SHIKMARU HIMSLEF > KUTSUCHI AND CHOJIRO .
      so just cause SHIKAMRU NOT SASUKE SAID THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS TRUE. ITS LIKE KABUTO SAYING THAT HE is second to SAGE OF 6 PATHS .

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@sarveshnathan7559 well she does with shin
      shin > base naruto > kages . -pretty simple .

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@grindtogreatness-gtg nah chojiro has no feats his only feat is reacting to and dodging kinshiki while sakura > him scaling off base naruto .

  • @asurasflow7505
    @asurasflow7505 2 года назад +1

    get a job

  • @Sycodi3sel
    @Sycodi3sel 2 года назад

    Spencer I can’t join your server bro

  • @edocursedmark2693
    @edocursedmark2693 Год назад

    😂no they all got beat up

  • @vaibhavmadan7125
    @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад +2

    for 3 eyed madara vs the 5 kage the 5 kage lose . i guess we all can agree that momoshiki was trying harder against base naruto when compared to garra so momoshiki was holding back against garra . and even naruto becomes 500 x more powerful when he uses kcm he still isnt as strong momo and needs sasuke ( for the people who are asking how i got the 500 x read sakura hiden . ) so even when momoshiki fought base naruto he was holding back against him . so if the momoshiki that fought is suppressed then the momoshiki that fought would be suppressed + or massively suppressed and garra got 1 tapped by massively suppressed momo. now prove that a massively suppressed momo > jubidara . u cant so 3 eyed madara stomps the kages .

    • @yudasrain4774
      @yudasrain4774 2 года назад

      Can you prove he is massively suppressed?

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@yudasrain4774 pretty sure i proved that in my comment.

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@yudasrain4774 so heres the case he was trying harder against base naruto than garra so that means he was using more power on naruto . since he was using more power on naruto that means that he was holding back on garra .
      then momoshiki is able to use more of his power against naruto and sasuke which would mean that he was holding ack even against base naruto or else how would he have more power to use against kcm naruto and sasue which would mean via feats that momoshiki was massively holding back against garra or else he wouldn't HAVE THE POWER TO FIGHT OPPONENTS THAT STRONGER THAN GARRA .

  • @1ccfkennels-
    @1ccfkennels- Год назад

    The Gokage dnt even compare to the last gtfoh

  • @justjelly2792
    @justjelly2792 2 года назад

    RUclips made me unsubscribe from you wtf

  • @HC-gm4fo
    @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад +1

    Boruto reacts to fused Momo man
    Chunin exam Boruto>Madara?

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      boruto uses the jougan so jougan boruto > madara .

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      also do u think shukaku > fused momo ?

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад +1

      @@vaibhavmadan7125 Manga Boruto doesn’t use the Jogan in the fused momo fight

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад +1

      If we’re using anime Jiraiya>Madara lol

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo why is jiraya above madara?

  • @qtindavis433
    @qtindavis433 2 года назад

    They couldnt kill kaguya, they could kill the others

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад

      Kaguya died though
      Its canon sources confirming she died

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 2 года назад

      @@allaboutthemurzic she's not dead. She's sealed with her chakra removed

    • @allaboutthemurzic
      @allaboutthemurzic 2 года назад

      @@qtindavis433 She is dead
      It’s canon statements confirming she died
      She actually isn’t immortal

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 2 года назад

      @@allaboutthemurzic no she isnt. naruto and sasuke sealed her away again. which turned madara back into himself please be quiet.

    • @numberhunter62
      @numberhunter62 2 года назад

      @@qtindavis433 That seal dropped Kaguya's chakra to absolute zero and thus she died of chakra exhaustion. Also, Zetsu specifically stated he revived Kaguya, that means bringing her back to life, which would thus mean that she was initially dead.
      Not to mention running out of chakra kills you, that is an ironclad rule that even Kaguya can't escape from.

  • @HC-gm4fo
    @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

    How much faster is Naruto from Teen years
    Does anyone know?

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      base naruto as a teen was weaker then kakuzu ,
      adult base naruto > jubito now u can find out the difference ur self .

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      @@vaibhavmadan7125 Base Naruto at the end of final valley wasn’t weaker than Kakazu

    • @HC-gm4fo
      @HC-gm4fo 2 года назад

      @@vaibhavmadan7125 as for Adult base>Juubito is extreme speculation
      Don’t saw “he traded blows for a couple of seconds” or Konahamaru is relative to base Jigen lol

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo THATS 6 paths naruto. spsm naruto .
      while the one i am talking about IS BASE BASE NO 6 PATHS NO NOTHING

    • @vaibhavmadan7125
      @vaibhavmadan7125 2 года назад

      @@HC-gm4fo WELL BASE NARUTO > KAGES ( HE HAD A MUCH FIGHT AGAINST FUSED MOMO THEN ANY OF THEM they all got while naruto held his own for a few secs )
      the kages were bulling kinshiki
      so the kages > kinshiki
      so that means base naruto > kinshiki
      kinshiki ~ jubito ( cause statements )
      hence base naruto > jubito
      THATS MY LOGIC . A PRETTY BASIC SCALING PUTTING BASE BASE NARUTO > KINSHIKI .

  • @wowwow6467
    @wowwow6467 2 года назад +1

    Crack is it ? It haves to be crack ur smoking

    • @CFSpener
      @CFSpener  2 года назад +2

      I’m high on life buddy

    • @wowwow6467
      @wowwow6467 2 года назад

      @@CFSpener didn’t madara beat gaara ass already? Multiple times

    • @CFSpener
      @CFSpener  2 года назад +2

      When he was like 17? Yeah this is a 30 year old gaara who got much stronger

    • @onizukasensei5321
      @onizukasensei5321 2 года назад

      @@wowwow6467 are u acting dumb on purpose or smth

    • @wowwow6467
      @wowwow6467 2 года назад +2

      @@CFSpener 😂😂 this is crazy must be for clicks. The new 5 kage can’t even beat kcm 1 naruto

  • @Sycodi3sel
    @Sycodi3sel 2 года назад

    Hey Spencer does Ichigo alone solo the Naruto verse like can he fight everyone at once alone

    • @CFSpener
      @CFSpener  2 года назад +1

      No

    • @Sycodi3sel
      @Sycodi3sel 2 года назад +1

      @@CFSpener awesome next cause some idiots believe that atleast your not dumb like hapi no hate

  • @GlizzySan
    @GlizzySan 2 года назад

    Madara beats the new 5 kage easily

    • @Glitch1125
      @Glitch1125 2 года назад +5

      Wrong

    • @grindtogreatness-gtg
      @grindtogreatness-gtg 2 года назад

      gaara and chojuro solo him sadly

    • @viroz6562
      @viroz6562 2 года назад

      No, you’re just wrong. The scaling is right here in front of you.

    • @abdul30077
      @abdul30077 2 года назад +1

      I agree boruto scaling is just wanky especially with how well they did with kinshiki just to give them something to do. Chojuro is fodder, darui doesn't compare to A whatsever. Lol comparing particle style to onoki grandugher kekei gender is laughable

    • @Glitch1125
      @Glitch1125 2 года назад

      @@abdul30077 your saying all this yet there is no evidence that darui is weaker than ay or adult chojuro is fodder

  • @corrupted_jimmy6250
    @corrupted_jimmy6250 Год назад

    Haven't seen the video yet but Madara slams