Ever since listening to your podcasts and watching some of these videos I've been mapping my neighborhood in atak expanding all the way out to the city around my neighborhood. Call it a paranoid exercise of terrain analysis lol
Instructions unclear - no 5 hr powerpoint, no overly generic class safety brief and no comd visit at the end of brief to hammer home the commanders messaging regards covid and extremist groups.
Thats exactly how I use it LOL. Also elk hunting is a good way to practice being an insurgent without going full larp and while also having a competent enemy, albeit one who doesnt shoot back.
Wait a minute, so I won't be slapped in the face with a 4.5 hour PowerPoint prior to op? Oh how unfortunate! All jokes aside, this is probably one of the best ATAK tutorials out there right now. Really basic but covers the things you need to know in order to quickly start using ATAK. As a last resort you could show this video to a bunch of people, give them EUDs with ATAK and imagery installed and send them a data package of the mission
For sure, this stuff doesn't have to be super complicated all the time. Those longass pre mission briefings certainly have their place at times, but basic skills like this can certainly get a non-professional ATAK user off the ground and greatly increase capabilities
Topo maps? come on.. this is for the CIA as Windows will rat you out.. if you get online at anytime after planning.. everything here could be sent out in less than kilobyte
@@VH-ew7oq He sounds like the guy from the What I've Learned channel to me. Like, really close actually. Obviously he's putting on a different Affect but there's certainly a similarity
Sorry, as much as I love backpacking, I'm getting old and my feet are necrotic, but I happen to have a jacked-up 1984 Toyota 4x4 with extreme low-range gearing, so I'll just drive to the OP, deploy the telescoping camera mast with a Nicon Coolpix P1000 on top, and start taking notes. Thanks for the WinTak tutorial though. I love tech.
The Viewshed only considers the ground elevations, like a topo map? I noticed that your OP position below the ridge had a large number of trees of unknown height. Even if they were mesquite trees six to nine feet high, seeing through them down to the target would not be feasible.
Seems like that would be when the ground guys would then move the LP/OP like was done towards the end of the video, but def a good thing to keep in mind
Great channel man! I'm really interested by atak /winter but I can't find a way to load EU maps,can you make a video where you show how to download and install EU maps? 🤔
I've learned so much about atak from these videos!! My main question is, if I use Wintak to create the mission, how do I get all of my routes, points, etc into my atak device?
I have a question, since I'm from Europe and I can't "legally" have this software and check it myself, so maybe you can help clarify. As this is a civilian version of the software, and trust given on civ is generally low, is this software sneakily or openly logs everything you do and send it to the data centre?
@S2 Underground i know im late to the party here but i am a atak user that is not tech savy. i just ran across pytak and was wondering if you had ever used it and what you thoughts are about using to bridge the gap between a fts connected to the net with radio using the aprscot?
GREAT VIDEO 👍🏾 very educational. Thank you so much for providing it. Question: What are all there acronyms you are using? Maybe I’m the only civilian that is subscribed that speaks civilian English and isn’t fluent in military. However, if I’m not the only one, could you consider stating what the words are in the acronym? Please.
it would be really good to hear your thoughts with regard to radio and associated topics. has your channel addressed such? if so, please aim it over here!
You mentioned "send it to them instantly". How would you suggest sending live map updates to other team members, especially in an environment with all signals monitored?
Good question; the short answer is radios. There is a public plugin for ATAK that allows one to send and receive data using what is essentially APRS. That's a good solution for operating in an environment where communications (particularly cellular communications) are monitored. Still not foolproof, but it's a decent option
Your map source is likely not capable of 3D. If you turn on 3D mode and then change your angle relative to the ground, the map will likely appear as a flat plane, because it's a flat render. You need a map source that incorporates elevation data into its render. Let me know if you find one... I need one as well.
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis I’m willing to bet a good chunk of the military struggles to read a freaking map. Probably not the high speed bang bang guys or the smart intelligence guys, but all the support people that never go out into the field.
OH BLOODY BRILLIANT!!! BRAV-0 This is going to make things MUCH easier for me in the near future...once I get this software figured out :) Thanks for the primmer on ATAK
@@jakefromspace4659 😇😇😇 have to plan out your site defense and prepare pinch points and....surprises and the like....this is SO MUCH EASIER than using topo maps.....all ya need is a large format printer and BAM!! Even somebody who has never even planned an OP before 😏😏
@@ssnerd583 Just as long as it's on your own property. Also note that you are held liable for whatever happens to anyone on your own property. I doubt insurance covers a series of "Home Alone" esq booby traps. Let alone crossbow wounds.
@s2underground Question about a couple of things. Now if i download the maps on a laptop(for ease of use with mouse) and create a mission like you just did on a computer, how do i send that to my phone that obviously has ATAK installed. Also when you do send the mission over, does that then download the map imagery to the phone since you downloaded it on your laptop. Or would I also have to download it onto my phone(that has atak installed). also if you wanted to say create a mission and then go do it, how would someone monitor the mission in real time? i know they would need atak installed on some sort of device but does that get sent thru the internet or is there another way of going about it with radios then send data packages. when the internet is down. Im asking beacuase id like to be able to create a mission of a hike and then have a family member monitor my progress throughout the hike(during a non SHTF scenario) AND have the capability of doing the same hing BUT in a SHTF scenario assuming the internet doesnt work. Sorry for the tons of questions. I used ATAK in the military but only was exposed to it for about a year and our combat controller or jtac would handle it usually.
You have two options: (1) Assemble and send a data package. This is the one I use. Basically, you link your devices to the same server (eg. FreeTAKServer), then select all the elements you want to share (offline maps, points, routes, etc), assemble them into a data package using the package management tool, and then send them to your device over the server by finding its callsign and sending it. (Note: DO NOT just hit "upload to server" - public servers will ban you for cluttering up the map with data you've now sent to everyone). (2) use the "ATAK Manager" extension. You're on your own for this one - all I know is you can link your mobile device and dump mission data to it directly.
Export the track from TAK into a GPX or KML, upload it to your watch rather through GConnect or through cable. Naming convention should be what the specific movement plan should be. So Primary/Secondary and so on as that is what you will see when it is exported and in your trail folder on your watch.
Following terrain below its highest point is fine; when people talk about not silhouetting yourself, they're talking about not walking on literally the highest point on the hill. Following the terrain 10-20yds below the actual top is fine.
There was mention that wintak is the worst. So which is the best, most supported? Anything that supports mesh networks? Know of any good hardware for this?
You are correct. Plugins are harder to get than black powder. I'll I'm gonna say is we aren't going out like Australia. Here's my ----------------------------------------------------
A year from now Destin you won't have to worry about having a radio. The only thing you'll need is a Tesla satellite phone. Elon is already working on it. I mean he's gonna have 14,000 satellites in Leo, so designing a phone to use the same network as his little dishes, piece of cake. 😎🤓
Strange, for us WinTAK runs very fast (and our computers are really slow), and the normal ATAK app also runs quite fast. Though, if a lot of imagery is downloaded it might slow down when first starting the app.
Hey, I need help with downloading maps, no matter what I do, the maps will not download and the download times shown do not reflect my internet connection speed. I know I'm doing something wrong but I have no idea what. I had no issues downloading portions of map on my phone. could you help me out? thanks!
I wouldn't trust viewshed it's always so off unless you're picking obvious high features however using it to tactically plot areas of dead ground it is useless and thinks you have xray vision
Making easy routes for backcountry elk hunting. It take a lot of time and energy just to get there and get one. Quartering one and hiking it out 4 times is even harder. This would make it easier for anyone using this program.
Obviously there's people out there who are thinking more of the anti-government insurgent operations using this software, but it actually has a ton of other uses. Hunting is a big one, but a mesh network of phones with ATAK carried by every team would be a massive boon to search and rescue operations, volunteer/professional firefighters tackling wildfires, birdwatching/wildlife photographers, I could even see this being used for SOTA or amateur astronomy. Firefighters could tag new flashups, S/R teams combing through a forest looking for a lost person could mark lines of approach and tag off once a sector has been cleared, etc.
@@GoogleDoesEvil you can look into the source code though and track what connections it makes to outside servers. S2A has covered that they've investigated it pretty thoroughly and they feel safe using it for their purposes. Plus, if you were the US military, would you want to leave backdoors open that any adversary could also hijack to get a perfect intel picture on your ops planning? I'd think not, right
>No battle staff to help you
You mean I'll be unincumbered by the numerous mandatory power point presentations that the fusion cell wants?
Ever since listening to your podcasts and watching some of these videos I've been mapping my neighborhood in atak expanding all the way out to the city around my neighborhood. Call it a paranoid exercise of terrain analysis lol
How's your map coming?
this is all greek to me and the hot links dont work... i wish i could grasp it better
Instructions unclear - no 5 hr powerpoint, no overly generic class safety brief and no comd visit at the end of brief to hammer home the commanders messaging regards covid and extremist groups.
That's called Trauma Bro
This would be good for planning an elk hunt; viewsheds, road routes and terrain.
Yup!! Kinda why I watched it completely, lol 😂 lots of info is transferable to unknown hunting areas with no ground info
Thats exactly what my initial thoughts were as well... then i remembered... im an idiot
Thats exactly how I use it LOL. Also elk hunting is a good way to practice being an insurgent without going full larp and while also having a competent enemy, albeit one who doesnt shoot back.
@@HanzHermannHoppethem horns tho...
Wait a minute, so I won't be slapped in the face with a 4.5 hour PowerPoint prior to op? Oh how unfortunate!
All jokes aside, this is probably one of the best ATAK tutorials out there right now. Really basic but covers the things you need to know in order to quickly start using ATAK. As a last resort you could show this video to a bunch of people, give them EUDs with ATAK and imagery installed and send them a data package of the mission
For sure, this stuff doesn't have to be super complicated all the time. Those longass pre mission briefings certainly have their place at times, but basic skills like this can certainly get a non-professional ATAK user off the ground and greatly increase capabilities
"This is my power point! There are many like it but this one is mine!"
@@S2Underground Where did you download WinTak at? Or do you use a Android emulator on Windows? I would like to play with this program.
As a table-top gamer and writer, this looks useful.
Great content, Destin. They didn't have anything like this back in '81. At least not that they showed us... 🛡
Topo maps? come on.. this is for the CIA as Windows will rat you out.. if you get online at anytime after planning.. everything here could be sent out in less than kilobyte
This guy sounds like Destin Sandlin from SE. Is this him?
@@andrewaldridge860 def not but he sure does sound like him. Lol.
@@VH-ew7oq He sounds like the guy from the What I've Learned channel to me. Like, really close actually. Obviously he's putting on a different Affect but there's certainly a similarity
I appreciate the hell out of this channels and its content.
More on this please, loved the QGIS I am already making maps
This brings me back to my Intel days in the AF. Good stuff
Just incredible. But as you mentioned really need a team to help plan, especially if you need changes mid op.
Love from Scotland 🏴
"Operation Bikini bottom". Lol Thank you this is cool. Being a old grunt from the 90's, this stuff fascinates me. Thank you S2.
Sorry, as much as I love backpacking, I'm getting old and my feet are necrotic, but I happen to have a jacked-up 1984 Toyota 4x4 with extreme low-range gearing, so I'll just drive to the OP, deploy the telescoping camera mast with a Nicon Coolpix P1000 on top, and start taking notes.
Thanks for the WinTak tutorial though. I love tech.
U said wintac is not as Gucci as atak. Ur my new favorite person lol. Love the vids btw
I heard.
This was kind of crazy to watch, I grew up there, Montrose CO is a great place. Flew in and out of that airport a lot.
I find the boring stuff interesting THX for what you are doing!
Oh look... a man made pond. Very cool intro footage.
The Viewshed only considers the ground elevations, like a topo map? I noticed that your OP position below the ridge had a large number of trees of unknown height. Even if they were mesquite trees six to nine feet high, seeing through them down to the target would not be feasible.
Seems like that would be when the ground guys would then move the LP/OP like was done towards the end of the video, but def a good thing to keep in mind
Sounds like a planning consideration to me!
fiberglass stand, free standing or on one of the trees (or both)
Thanks for this! Very in depth and informative
Great channel man! I'm really interested by atak /winter but I can't find a way to load EU maps,can you make a video where you show how to download and install EU maps? 🤔
I've learned so much about atak from these videos!! My main question is, if I use Wintak to create the mission, how do I get all of my routes, points, etc into my atak device?
Do it over again on atak
@@bryananderson3772 not the answer I was hoping for lol
I have a question, since I'm from Europe and I can't "legally" have this software and check it myself, so maybe you can help clarify. As this is a civilian version of the software, and trust given on civ is generally low, is this software sneakily or openly logs everything you do and send it to the data centre?
Great stuff guys. Thanks.👍
Love your channel
@S2 Underground i know im late to the party here but i am a atak user that is not tech savy. i just ran across pytak and was wondering if you had ever used it and what you thoughts are about using to bridge the gap between a fts connected to the net with radio using the aprscot?
Super informative! Tyty!
GREAT VIDEO 👍🏾 very educational. Thank you so much for providing it.
Question: What are all there acronyms you are using? Maybe I’m the only civilian that is subscribed that speaks civilian English and isn’t fluent in military. However, if I’m not the only one, could you consider stating what the words are in the acronym? Please.
Running a delta green campaign rn, this will help out tremendously
it would be really good to hear your thoughts with regard to radio and associated topics.
has your channel addressed such?
if so, please aim it over here!
If you haven't already take a look at some of the android TV boxes. You can get a lot of capability for a very decent price.
You mentioned "send it to them instantly". How would you suggest sending live map updates to other team members, especially in an environment with all signals monitored?
Good question; the short answer is radios. There is a public plugin for ATAK that allows one to send and receive data using what is essentially APRS. That's a good solution for operating in an environment where communications (particularly cellular communications) are monitored. Still not foolproof, but it's a decent option
@@S2Underground what is that plugin called?
@@KowOneOhTwo Its called the Hammer plugin
@@zachbrenner9959 THANK YOUUU
lora meshtastic?
IMPECABLE EL VIDEO.TE FELICITO HERMANO.
So, when I use the marker tool in the "viewshed" it gives me "No DTED data..." message. What am I doing wrong?
Your map source is likely not capable of 3D. If you turn on 3D mode and then change your angle relative to the ground, the map will likely appear as a flat plane, because it's a flat render. You need a map source that incorporates elevation data into its render. Let me know if you find one... I need one as well.
Wouldn't you set the height above op marker to 1 ft? Assuming you're observing in the prone?
super cool, thank you
Wow this just shows you how easy it is for the government to plan a hit
like he already said in the video, this is laughable compared to what the military and agencies use
You mean in the 80s?
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtisstill using it
@@derstoffausdemderjoghurtis I’m willing to bet a good chunk of the military struggles to read a freaking map. Probably not the high speed bang bang guys or the smart intelligence guys, but all the support people that never go out into the field.
Shows citizens won't stand much chance
OH BLOODY BRILLIANT!!! BRAV-0 This is going to make things MUCH easier for me in the near future...once I get this software figured out :)
Thanks for the primmer on ATAK
Ahhh, what are you up to, if I may ask? The world hasn't totally gone to suck just yet you know?
@@jakefromspace4659 😇😇😇 have to plan out your site defense and prepare pinch points and....surprises and the like....this is SO MUCH EASIER than using topo maps.....all ya need is a large format printer and BAM!! Even somebody who has never even planned an OP before 😏😏
@@ssnerd583 Ok, that's better than the alternatives...
@@ssnerd583 Just as long as it's on your own property. Also note that you are held liable for whatever happens to anyone on your own property. I doubt insurance covers a series of "Home Alone" esq booby traps. Let alone crossbow wounds.
@@jakefromspace4659 ....who says anybody gonna find ANYTHING?? Bet me on that one :D
Guys! This is so cool.
I’m going to check out my area.
That could be useful for planning my new property 1000 miles away. A hillside piece and rudimentary access.
Outstanding thank you very much
Do you have any interest in making an atak+radio video? Set up and function examples.
What map source do you use? I cannot figure out how to get a 3D map of my area for this.
@s2underground
Question about a couple of things. Now if i download the maps on a laptop(for ease of use with mouse) and create a mission like you just did on a computer, how do i send that to my phone that obviously has ATAK installed. Also when you do send the mission over, does that then download the map imagery to the phone since you downloaded it on your laptop. Or would I also have to download it onto my phone(that has atak installed). also if you wanted to say create a mission and then go do it, how would someone monitor the mission in real time? i know they would need atak installed on some sort of device but does that get sent thru the internet or is there another way of going about it with radios then send data packages. when the internet is down. Im asking beacuase id like to be able to create a mission of a hike and then have a family member monitor my progress throughout the hike(during a non SHTF scenario) AND have the capability of doing the same hing BUT in a SHTF scenario assuming the internet doesnt work. Sorry for the tons of questions. I used ATAK in the military but only was exposed to it for about a year and our combat controller or jtac would handle it usually.
You have two options:
(1) Assemble and send a data package. This is the one I use. Basically, you link your devices to the same server (eg. FreeTAKServer), then select all the elements you want to share (offline maps, points, routes, etc), assemble them into a data package using the package management tool, and then send them to your device over the server by finding its callsign and sending it. (Note: DO NOT just hit "upload to server" - public servers will ban you for cluttering up the map with data you've now sent to everyone).
(2) use the "ATAK Manager" extension. You're on your own for this one - all I know is you can link your mobile device and dump mission data to it directly.
How can I add Google Maps to my Maps & Favorites? I see I can add an online source but with an WMS or WMTS adress? Where can I find that?
is this dependent upon infastructure?(internet)
Montrose Regional. With long runways and mountains overlooking it.
Good video tysm
why did you choose Delta/Montrose/black canyon of the gunnison for this example?
Great video, any idea on how to send heading and distance info to a garmin tactix watch?
Export the track from TAK into a GPX or KML, upload it to your watch rather through GConnect or through cable. Naming convention should be what the specific movement plan should be. So Primary/Secondary and so on as that is what you will see when it is exported and in your trail folder on your watch.
Where did you download your 3D mapsource?
Here's the vid that shows how to download the imagery; there are a lot of different ways to do it: ruclips.net/video/jQJYHX24uFg/видео.html
@@S2Underground Thanks!
ATAK looks sweet.
Download it to give it a try.
Map data is for the USA only.
Be me, an Australian.
FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
where can I get this sort of theoretical KMZ file?
I've heard you should cross terrain and not follow terrain while avoiding being silhouetted. Is this correct or not?
Following terrain below its highest point is fine; when people talk about not silhouetting yourself, they're talking about not walking on literally the highest point on the hill. Following the terrain 10-20yds below the actual top is fine.
Phase line are used with Geofences?
There was mention that wintak is the worst. So which is the best, most supported? Anything that supports mesh networks? Know of any good hardware for this?
GEM ALERT GEM ALERT
some ham radio operators use ATAK and Wintak also,
Fucking GOLD for the civilians
I got a question.
If I add 3d objects from telegametry Viewshed view changes?
Montrose, nice.
Dont work with Win 10. ATAC page has many comments regarding this. it will work on older computers
This seems like it would be a useful tool for Shock Force 2. Does anyone know if the game maps could be imported?
If you can get them as a KMZ file it should work. Just use the import manager and select the file.
You are correct. Plugins are harder to get than black powder. I'll I'm gonna say is we aren't going out like Australia. Here's my ----------------------------------------------------
A year from now Destin you won't have to worry about having a radio. The only thing you'll need is a Tesla satellite phone. Elon is already working on it. I mean he's gonna have 14,000 satellites in Leo, so designing a phone to use the same network as his little dishes, piece of cake. 😎🤓
I am guessing that Starlink is going to be used by the DOD. Anything even LoRa can and would be jammed.
Possible file download site for ATAC to work
Can other country civilian use ATAK civilian model????
No. ATAK is ITAR/EAR restricted.
@@Riley316-2 Give it a try but I doubt it'll be functional. I'm unaware of non US citizens having access to it
@@DZ4295DBW Is it need to something Rogin???
Yes we can.
@@miguelangelrodriguez9293 Thx Budy! Did we buy a map? I want using this ATAK for our ops.
It's pretty slow for a laptop, can you even run it on a smartphone?
Strange, for us WinTAK runs very fast (and our computers are really slow), and the normal ATAK app also runs quite fast. Though, if a lot of imagery is downloaded it might slow down when first starting the app.
@@S2Underground can this be used if all of the towers are down? Like in the desert?
Hey, I need help with downloading maps, no matter what I do, the maps will not download and the download times shown do not reflect my internet connection speed. I know I'm doing something wrong but I have no idea what. I had no issues downloading portions of map on my phone. could you help me out? thanks!
Which map source are u using ?
I wouldn't trust viewshed it's always so off unless you're picking obvious high features however using it to tactically plot areas of dead ground it is useless and thinks you have xray vision
Blue route seems like it leaves you too exposed to the road
Meshtastic no cell towers.
Civilian world. Why not get a job at the Airfield? Or set up a business there. Sell coffee, sandwiches and cookies.
Just for shits and giggles, drop a C-5 in there next to that C-130. Of course, a C5 isn't sneaking up on anybody. LOL
Why is it not working
So, I'm guessing gangstalkers use this along with R.I.S.S.
You've got 10 million subscribers and you're worried about the cost of ATAK, Destin?
"Reconnaissance in force"....
Handy.
So what would yall use this for? I'm a little confused.
Making easy routes for backcountry elk hunting. It take a lot of time and energy just to get there and get one. Quartering one and hiking it out 4 times is even harder. This would make it easier for anyone using this program.
Obviously there's people out there who are thinking more of the anti-government insurgent operations using this software, but it actually has a ton of other uses. Hunting is a big one, but a mesh network of phones with ATAK carried by every team would be a massive boon to search and rescue operations, volunteer/professional firefighters tackling wildfires, birdwatching/wildlife photographers, I could even see this being used for SOTA or amateur astronomy. Firefighters could tag new flashups, S/R teams combing through a forest looking for a lost person could mark lines of approach and tag off once a sector has been cleared, etc.
Call me paranoid but who wrote this program? The government?
@@GoogleDoesEvil you can look into the source code though and track what connections it makes to outside servers. S2A has covered that they've investigated it pretty thoroughly and they feel safe using it for their purposes. Plus, if you were the US military, would you want to leave backdoors open that any adversary could also hijack to get a perfect intel picture on your ops planning? I'd think not, right
Any S3 and S4 channel to follow
Edit: I mean subscribe
And for they to spy on you
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