I'm Irish and went to College in Edinburgh many moons ago. I always found a deep connection between my Celtic cousins. Any trip down the west coast of Scotland and you could be forgiven for mistaking it with the Gaelic speaking west coast of Ireland.......brothers in arms........
My parents born in 1903 & 1911 (RIP) are Irish, I was born in the US - been to Ireland, Scotland, Wales; England & N. Ireland. Very comfortable when visiting the 'old sod. I love your postings - Thank You!
I’m an American studying in Ireland and I’ve had the privilege to visit Scotland! A great friend of mine hails from the Kingdom of Fife and I was able to spent a week there. Love your content! Keep up the amazing work!
The amount of work that goes in to these videos is amazing. Fascinating history and really well told. 5:03 "To fight each other, as God intended..." 😂😂😂 A United Kingdom of Scotland, Ireland and Wales (or even a Disunited Confederation of the same) would certainly have changed England's fortunes. Without the Scots and Irish soldiers, who would have claimed the Empire for our Saxe-Coburg-Saalfelden aristocracy? Without Welsh Coal, the Industrial Revolution might have been more or an Industrial Revolt; and without Tom Jones, we'd not know that It's not unusual to be loved by anyone. I looked up John de Bermingham, to see if he was from my home town, and now I've heard about the Braganstown Massacre. That's some Game of Thrones' level bloodshed and inversion of expectations. I'm English, but I've been to Largs; probably where the Vikingar! Leisure Centre and Visitor Attraction stands today. It was cold and wet, and I was very drunk. Oh, to be young again, and to make better decisions.
The following excerpt is the translated word of John de Maupas on his account of Irish peer and earl of Louth John de Bermingham following the battle of Faughart in which the Irish (Hiberni in Latin) fought against the Scots (Scotti in Latin) after the Scots conquered Ireland (Hibernia in Latin) following their success in conquering the English after Bannockburn - a defeat that took England at least 20 years to recover from. Robert I king of Scots sought to conquer Ireland and install his brother, Edward Bruce as high king of Ireland (which would be a Scottish take over of Ireland similar to what James VI King of Scots would do centuries later in 1603 with England). So when James VI of Scots took England in 1603, he also took Ireland as well, because Ireland was owned by the kingdom of England as a 'Papal possession' - which began with the Laudibiliter between Pope Adrian IV and Henry II of England - which further back was made possible due to Dermod MacMurrough the Hiberni (Irish) King of Leinster who wanted English help from Henry II to regain lost lands back from other rival Hiberni (Irish) petty kingdoms, therefore Ireland was effectively later owned by the Scottish royal house with a Scottish monarch having dominion over Irish land as well as English land and the early British colonies overseas by extension. At this time following Bannockburn however, the real Irish of the time (Hiberni), did not see the Scots as much different from the English, they were also seen as colonisers, more so infact because what is now Ireland at that time was a Papal possession owned by the Kingdom of England, and so the Anglo settlers who were said to become more Irish than the Irish (Hiberni) themselves were allied with the Irish in their efforts against the Scots of the north on both islands. Here >> people.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1988-9/nolan.htm
Yes lots of Scots in Ireland. You can see them flying the Saltire ,marching about ,playing flutes and banging them big drums. Singing their songs . Definitely 2 linked nations.
@@billycaspersghost7528 As an Irishman, the idea of Irish/Scottish solidarity is a myth. The Scots unionised with the English during the act of Union in 1707. They went to war with the Irish and thri monarch (James VI of Scots) planted themselves in Northen Ireland after he took over the kingdom of England in 1603. They were hard-line Presybretarians and the ethnic component to the invasions is often overlooked (yes can you believe that? Scots seeing themselves as ethnically different from Irish!). Scotland certainly is not linked to Ireland, but we are geographically close, but Scotland is even closer to England, sharing a direct land border and their nation is part of the same island. Still we all have our own nationality and seperate identities, histories, origins and cultures etc. It's said Scotland is like the Japan of Europe, and if Korea is like the England of Europe, Ireland is like the China of Europe in terms of history and outward expansionist trends etc. It's an idea that still to this day among some in Northern Ireland who look to Britain (especially Scotland) for help to crush any nationalist movements within the area. For some reason when I speak to protestant N. Irish/Scottish not all but quite a few try to profess their genetic admixture with England and whereever else in the world like it even matters against their native nationality?? If you were to say walk down a protestant street in some areas of Scotland with an Irish flag you can be sure to find yourself in a lot of trouble. I mean real big trouble. The Scots are far more extreme in their conviction for what is called the UK. The attachment to this idea is a lot greater on average than say your run of the mill Jack the lad from England. Ireland being intensely opposed to Britain this doesn’t make for good sentiment among Scots who see the Kingdom of Great Britain as a Scottish creation, which in a way they technically are correct at the very least in that. It’s only until the Irish go on holiday to our so-called brothers in arms to find out they are despised by half the population. It's actually the Catholic Scots whose family were actually Irish immigrants during the famine who were always opposed to Britain rather than the actual Scottish majority who they saw as some ethnic quasi Germanic Celt and have an affinity towards Ireland. By the way, the Scots exterminated many a number of them during the clearances. In a sense they are more sectarian than the Northern Irish. So to wrap it up, no, the Scots and the Irish do not see eye to eye and no we don’t have this brotherly love depending, of course, on what kind of a Scot you're implying ;). But ultimately its a myth. People took Brave Heart too seriously, especially the Yanks :). Also on the last point, I don’t have a problem with Scots or English. I think its a load of rubbish. But I will say that Ireland/Britain has a lot of texture and very deep complex aspects to it and I don’t want to make it so black and white. Please also refer to a comment made by Alistair Thompson which will give some context on this. I’m not trying to deflect I have a secret dislike for Scots I really have no issue with Britains of any region. What the dispute has devolved into today between Protestant and Catholics is beyond reproach but here is what Alistair said which should be noted for everyone as an example of the depth it goes: The push and pull factors varied, because it wasn’t really one migration at all, but several. Some of the Scots who came to Ulster were planters who arrived because the king, James VI and I wanted them to put roots down in Ireland, some were Gallowglasses who were actively recruited by the Irish, some were brought over in a couple of private plantations which were organised by Scottish gentry who had bought land from impoverished Irish nobility and some were actually refugees from a famine in Scotland in the 1690s. Some of the planters who took part in the official plantation with the king’s consent were less than willing to go to Ireland, because they were border reivers who were transported as convicts to Ireland in much the same way as convicts were later transported to the American colonies and after American independence, to Australia. Many of the Scots in Ulster were Presbyterian (although some were Catholic, in particular those who started as the hired Gallowglasses). The Presbyterians in particular chafed under the Penal Laws after their support for William of Orange, so many of them voluntarily emigrated to the American colonies in the 1700s where they often became frontiersmen in the Appalachians for example and the artificially constructed “Scots Irish” identity in America almost to a man supported America’s war of independence, so great was their distaste for British rule. You probably already know all about those who stayed in Ulster and were involved with the United Irishmen only a generation later. If only more “Ulster Scots” acknowledged the full history of their very complicated relationship with Britain. Some do of course (especially the Catholic nationalist ones like your Alasdair McDonnells and your John Humes). In my experience though, they are few and far between. All too easy to pretend that all the Ulster Protestants have always been loyal British subjects and all the Irish Catholics have always been rebels. The full history is an awful lot more complicated, with Catholic loyalists and Protestant rebels galore.
thanks again, Bruce for another great video. yes, I have been to Scotland. however, it was in 1973 and I must say I enjoyed my time there. perhaps, some day, I may return.
I'm not Scottish myself, if anything the furthest from it (English ;) ) but I love history and your passion about your country's history is infectious. Found your videos only a couple days ago, I think it was the Black Watch one, and have binged watched them ever since. You really deserve a big ol' TV contract for a history documentary or something!
Another well made video that not only tells of Edward Bruce’s failed attempt but also adds background to the not exactly cordial historical relationship between the Scots and the Irish.
I absolutely love your show Bruce, I’d say you have a Wee bit of the story teller in ya. I’m Irish and Scottish, best of both worlds, my parents immigrated to New Jersey years ago where I live today. Thanks for filling me in on the Celtic history I should know which sadly many Americans ignore….Keep on rocking…
I have been to both Scotland and Ireland. Both are beautiful places and I met some great people. Not a fan of Dublin but I think it's just too busy for me. I liked Inverness and Southern Ireland most of all. Can't wait to return.
American here with Scottish roots stopping in to say I love your videos and look forward to learning more about Scottish history with some saltire in the mix.
Class video Bruce, as always. You covered a lot of great history. I particularly liked when you were sorting out your pack lunch when discussing the famine. Out of interest, what microphone do you use for your videos? Your audio is always really good even when your outside with the wind etc. Cheers.
I am Australian with Irish/Scottish heritage and have visited Scotland 3 rimes and Ireland once and am I itching to visit both again. Absolutely love both peoples, places and history.
Brilliant video. I first went to County Cork in Ireland to visit my father's family when I was a toddler and I need to go back to County Cork at some point.
I am a Riley (changed about 1900 from Reilly). Our home County is Cavan, part of the 9 Counties of old Ulster. My great great grandfather moved to the Nortn East of England arounx 1900. The past 22 years I have lived in Scotland with a Scottish wife and son. Been to Ireland a few times and always loved it. Hoping to go to Sligo in the Summer (mad on Yeats).
@ Jim Thistle Unfortunately both of the spellings are anglicized phonetic spellings of your ancient name of Ó Raghalligh. ( male) Ní Raghallaigh ( unmarried female) All the names / spellings of places and people in Ireland have been angilized and don’t have meaning but when the slime is removed and the original name is uncovered and used it has deep meaning . It’s probably the same for Scotland and Wales which have also been angilized during the many years of colonization .
I'm not scottish and as far as I know n9 scottish ancestry. Only know Scotland is the home of my heart. 🏴🏴 We will be in Scotland this upcoming June. Will be in Perth during our visit.
American here. Grandfather born in Elgin. Visited for a 2 week road trip/family reunion in 1999. Still have close contact with family in Oban and Edinburgh.
American with Scottish, Irish, and English ancestry. I have been to Scotland and Ireland. Enjoyed both immensely. Also, I am really enjoying the history lessons. Thank you!
I am Scottish-Australian, and have visited both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Both beautiful, with wonderful people. Can't wait to get back again.
Only Scottish by heart; lived there for over a decade, had to leave as the jobs ran out for me. Know I will be visiting again (too many friends there), but doubt I'll ever live there again. That time has passed.
Edward colonized Ireland a century before!! Damn he had a long life! Yes been to Ireland for my cousin's wedding we're Welsh and he married into a lovely Irish family who made us really welcome and still do! To my shame I still haven't been to Scotland but soon!
Happy New Year Bruce to you and yours. I love all of your videos which are so informative and fun at the same time, which helps me, at 79, to retain the knowledge you share. I so enjoyed the reveal of the DNA journeys, what a laugh and surprise for your family. My grandmother used to say, “We’re all Jock Tamson’s bairnies,” how true that is. We are all so much more than the sum of the parts, my belief. My results from Ancestry were 67% Scottish, 32% Irish 1% Norwegian which just about backed up my 20 year hobby spent on my family tree, but I wonder just how accurate this can be, seeing as many of the folk in the British Isles, as we know it today, were from Brittany, Normandy, Saxony and Scandinavia etc., so fascinating. Getting uppity about who we are gets us, as a human gene pool, nowhere. We are part of a rich diverse world, where respect, kindness and love should be our number one priority. You are a great teacher, doing a superb job, ignore the ignorant!
I'm American, my grandfather was born in Rosyth, Fife, he immigrated to the USA when he was 17, way back in 1919. I'm glad to have found your channel, i spent some time in Scotland about 30 years ago and would love to visit again. Thank you for your stories.
Great post ,sir, Nigel Tranter did justice to this period in his novels, doing justice yourself to the shared history of ours...peace and love from the jubilant red portion of Merseyside....E
im Irish raised in england (mum from Co Laois and father Limerick). worked in Elgin for a week back in 88 putting a phone system into a travel agents 'Lunn Poly'...remember them? fled to Australia shortly after. Visited again few years ago, got train to Fort William from London in winter, beautiful . Stayed for couple nights and then home again. loved it.
I remember going to Carrickfergus Castle and learning about the bit where the defenders had to resort to cannibalism during Edward Bruce’s siege always thought it was something that they’d hide from kids but obviously they knew some of us were reading Horrible Histories
That's the best I've ever seen a Discovery parked in Carrickfergus car park! Hope the seagulls were kind! Great to see you here, hope you feel welcome my man!
I m Irish Tunisian mixed. Been to Scotland a few times. Love Inverness , Edinburgh, been to Orkney too. Fantastic place altogether . I might have Scottish ancestors (McDonnells in my family tree- there s some Irish septs of the name as well as Scottish ones)
American with Scottish ancestry. I've been to Scotland twice and am planning to visit again and hoping to do the Saint Cuthbert's Way! fingers crossed. Great videos!
I live barely more than a mile or two from Edward Bruce's grave. According to historical accounts that I heard, Edward's passing wasn't greatly regretted through most of island of Ireland that he and his forces laid waste to. Those were tough times back then and armies, whether Edward Bruce's or their Norman/Irish/English enemies, tended to mete out cruelty to the people they met on their way. Irish peasants naturally didn't take kindly to marching armies stealing their produce for their own sustenance or their burning of towns and villages they might pass through. Had he been less cruel and less impetuous Edward Bruce's death might have been mourned more than it was, but he made his choices and so it was that he was largely forgotten to Irish history,
+what about the Scottish peasants left behind in scotia by a bunch of scotish norman crackheads, DeBruce was not successful in Ireland, he was defeated by his own kin, the Normans in Ireland , thankfully in Ireland we were still under the norman yolk until 1916, you Scots are still under the Norman yolk until you kick them out, even now you scots are still ruled by the Normans = anglo saxons, norman De Bruce
Just another horrible footnote in Irish history. I believe the Irish sent Edwards's head back to the king of England with words to the effect "I think this belongs to you."
@@deborahh2195 The irish? That would be debatable since he was defeated by a combioned English/Norman army, albeit with Irish allies. One thing is certain, Edward Bruce did nothing to endear himself to his supposed Irish subjects.
Another great vid Bruce! Knew about Edward from a really good documentary I saw here on RUclips (can't remember the name though). It was a really bloody period of Irish (and Scots) history... Scottish but my Mum always thought we were from NI due to our surname. However, recently stumbled on the geneology of a guy called Francis Jay Herron who was a Union General in the American Civil War (and Medal of Honour recipient). If his geneology has been worked out correctly it goes back through NI to Dumfries & Galloway and then on to a certain Robert Heron Herroun (1405-90) who came from Angus - where I was born & grew up. So looks like we started in Angus then branched out to NI rather than the other way round. Been to Ireland (both parts) a number of times in my youth... for the colleens & rugby!!
Great video Bruce, you have a lovely way of telling the story. I'm from Tír Chonaill and I have a Great Grandmother from the Isle of Skye, never been to Skye but I hear it's beautiful
I too am of Irish decent on my mother's side just as I'm of Scottish on my father's. To be fair I'm a collection of peoples from the Isle's. I'm planning a trip to visit Scotland when I retire in a few years. I want to visit the ancestral lands of Argyle. I need to do some more research on my mother's side to find out where to go in Ireland. Thanks Bruce, great story once again. Whence Saturday came and went I was saddened that no alert had warned me of a new video. But then low and behold Sunday arrived and with it a brand new educational and entertaining experience! Thanks mate, my week's now compete
@@ScotlandHistoryTours well Bruce, when the day comes that I make my way to the home of my ancestors I hope to have a cup of coffee with ya. In my younger years a pint or a dram was more like it but as I've aged alcohol is no longer my friend but I'd be honored to buy you a cup of Joe as we say in the colonies. You sir are my absolute favorite channel on RUclips, good evening from America!
American here, with pre-colonial roots to Scotland, Ireland, and Wales. The Welsh means roots to the Normans through the Marcher Lords, which, of course, means roots to those Anglo-Irish-Normans you're talking about here. Just recently discovered your channel and find it fascinating. And I would love to visit Scotland as well as Ireland and Wales, but these days I don't travel much.
With a bit of luck this summer will be our closest to normal since 2019 so travellers can travel again, properly, you would find yourself very welcome in the UK whichever of our nations you visited first.
Yes, I have been to Ireland. Just once. I think it was in 2003. I went there with a friend and we visited Glendalough, the Burren castle, the Dingle peninsula, the parliament of Dublin. It was fantastic! I'm not Scottish. I am French.
I'm Scottish, transplanted over Hadrian's wall at a young age, bounced a couple of times around England and wound up in Michigan in my early 30s, married to a native. Only visited Ireland once, Dublin over New Years's Eve 2012/2013. Spent three wonderful nights in The Old Stand Pub in Dublin, which was reputed to be four hundred years old, or at least a pub had been there for four hundred years. I need to go back.
I'm Scottish, Bruce. I've never set foot on the island of Ireland, though I've been on the Scottish side of the Causeway 😄 I do want to go, but the last time I was choosing a Euro city break it came down to Dublin v Berlin and I chose Berlin because I realised it was soon going to be a bit more difficult to get there (Brexit) and it appeared that it woud be quite a bit cheaper with better beer (sorry Guinness) and the whole dark fascination with WW2, the cold war era, the wall and everything. But I definitely will go to Ireland one day soon.
Scottish. I lived in Ireland for 4 years. I've trace my family tree to Conn Mòr O'Neil, via Felix O'Neil the last Earl of Kiltaugh so this was fascinating for me. I've researched quite a bit on the O'Neil history. The book Flight of the Earls touches on it. Great stuff Bruce.
Yet another informative video Bruce, I had the pleasure of visiting Carrickfergus for the first time last August, where we occupied the castle, for the commemoration of the 1689 siege, brought over to portray McCarty's Catholic garrison! Made for an interesting event , successful it was though and we are repeating the task this August :-) If you are ever curious to know more please get in touch
American. Of Scots and Irish descent. Been to Scotland (well, Edinburgh anyway), want to tramp the highlands. Had a chance to go to Ireland in '77, but it was still in the troubles, so passed on it. Would love to go now though.
Canadian / American here. I was in Edinburgh for 3 days in 2019 on a trip that was mostly England. Next time, I'm spending more time traveling around Scotland. Edinburgh, Inverness, Glencoe, North Coast 500, etc.
There ya go again Bruce, upping the ante production-value-wise. Of course yer stories are outstanding, that's a given. But who did all that hard video work, properly composing the frames, eh? Credit where credit is due mon! And thanks for another fine use of my time! 😊
The bear references were a nice touch. I knew little to nothing about Edward Bruce before watching your highly entertaining video. I hope to visit Scotland and (with a little luck) Ireland this summer. I took my American wife to Scotland in 2019 before Covid struck and she loved it. She has some Scottish blood as well on her paternal grandmother's side (Armstrong). I'm looking forward to your next video.
@🏴Scotland History Tours w/ Bruce Fummey B. I'm neither Scottish nor Irish Bruce , but I will go eventually when the pandemic is over God willing
I'm Irish from Irish border and grew up in Dundalk! Great grandparents from Tyrone! Marching from Tyrone camped in dowdels hill (dundalk) and fought in the battle of the boyne. Been to Edinburgh before O like very much.
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"to fight each other, as God intended"-
This kind of analysis is EXACTLY why you rule, Mr. Fummey!
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Wrong end of the stick. Obviously a lot still to be learned 😉.
I'm Irish and went to College in Edinburgh many moons ago. I always found a deep connection between my Celtic cousins. Any trip down the west coast of Scotland and you could be forgiven for mistaking it with the Gaelic speaking west coast of Ireland.......brothers in arms........
The place names say it all - Oban, Kilmartin, Kilberry, Kilmory, Tralee Bay etc etc.
I'm a McAlister and a Galvin. Got a little German in me as well. My ancestors were good looking and smart! Lol
I live 5 miles from Faughart my dad used to take me to his grave as a kid. Another great video keep them up.
Im Irish and would love for you to do some videos around Irish history.
2nd that!
@@seanmcmanus8906 3rd
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Why sure you all hated the Scots and their Presbyterian ways, the Irish persecuted the Scots and committed heinous crimes against them.
My parents born in 1903 & 1911 (RIP) are Irish, I was born in the US - been to Ireland, Scotland, Wales; England & N. Ireland. Very comfortable when visiting the 'old sod. I love your postings - Thank You!
I’m an American studying in Ireland and I’ve had the privilege to visit Scotland! A great friend of mine hails from the Kingdom of Fife and I was able to spent a week there. Love your content! Keep up the amazing work!
I am scot and irish and it is always a pleasure to see your posts.
A much overlooked part of SCOTTISH and IRISH history..always a blast Bruce..GGTTHB.
The amount of work that goes in to these videos is amazing. Fascinating history and really well told.
5:03 "To fight each other, as God intended..." 😂😂😂
A United Kingdom of Scotland, Ireland and Wales (or even a Disunited Confederation of the same) would certainly have changed England's fortunes.
Without the Scots and Irish soldiers, who would have claimed the Empire for our Saxe-Coburg-Saalfelden aristocracy?
Without Welsh Coal, the Industrial Revolution might have been more or an Industrial Revolt; and without Tom Jones, we'd not know that It's not unusual to be loved by anyone.
I looked up John de Bermingham, to see if he was from my home town, and now I've heard about the Braganstown Massacre. That's some Game of Thrones' level bloodshed and inversion of expectations.
I'm English, but I've been to Largs; probably where the Vikingar! Leisure Centre and Visitor Attraction stands today. It was cold and wet, and I was very drunk. Oh, to be young again, and to make better decisions.
True dat
The following excerpt is the translated word of John de Maupas on his account of Irish peer and earl of Louth John de Bermingham following the battle of Faughart in which the Irish (Hiberni in Latin) fought against the Scots (Scotti in Latin) after the Scots conquered Ireland (Hibernia in Latin) following their success in conquering the English after Bannockburn - a defeat that took England at least 20 years to recover from.
Robert I king of Scots sought to conquer Ireland and install his brother, Edward Bruce as high king of Ireland (which would be a Scottish take over of Ireland similar to what James VI King of Scots would do centuries later in 1603 with England). So when James VI of Scots took England in 1603, he also took Ireland as well, because Ireland was owned by the kingdom of England as a 'Papal possession' - which began with the Laudibiliter between Pope Adrian IV and Henry II of England - which further back was made possible due to Dermod MacMurrough the Hiberni (Irish) King of Leinster who wanted English help from Henry II to regain lost lands back from other rival Hiberni (Irish) petty kingdoms, therefore Ireland was effectively later owned by the Scottish royal house with a Scottish monarch having dominion over Irish land as well as English land and the early British colonies overseas by extension.
At this time following Bannockburn however, the real Irish of the time (Hiberni), did not see the Scots as much different from the English, they were also seen as colonisers, more so infact because what is now Ireland at that time was a Papal possession owned by the Kingdom of England, and so the Anglo settlers who were said to become more Irish than the Irish (Hiberni) themselves were allied with the Irish in their efforts against the Scots of the north on both islands.
Here >> people.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1988-9/nolan.htm
@@plasticpaddy985 More "Irish than Irish"? That'll be those Oirish you see around London. 🤭
@@euansmith3699 In Ireland we call them English Plastic Paddies.
A model of clarity and brevity Euan...clearly sober when you posted this...E
Scottish and moved to Ireland 20 years ago. Still missing my homeland.
Don't miss the midges...or as my Lochaber and Glencoe cousins were wont to say...beasties...best wishes from the wirral...E
l've been in ireland 33 years, and still have the same accent as you bruce. all the best. william. ireland.
I'm a Scot who spent time working in Ireland and found I was treated like a favourite visiting cousin by all I met. Definitely 2 linked nations
Yes lots of Scots in Ireland.
You can see them flying the Saltire ,marching about ,playing flutes and banging them big drums.
Singing their songs .
Definitely 2 linked nations.
@@billycaspersghost7528 As an Irishman, the idea of Irish/Scottish solidarity is a myth. The Scots unionised with the English during the act of Union in 1707. They went to war with the Irish and thri monarch (James VI of Scots) planted themselves in Northen Ireland after he took over the kingdom of England in 1603. They were hard-line Presybretarians and the ethnic component to the invasions is often overlooked (yes can you believe that? Scots seeing themselves as ethnically different from Irish!). Scotland certainly is not linked to Ireland, but we are geographically close, but Scotland is even closer to England, sharing a direct land border and their nation is part of the same island. Still we all have our own nationality and seperate identities, histories, origins and cultures etc. It's said Scotland is like the Japan of Europe, and if Korea is like the England of Europe, Ireland is like the China of Europe in terms of history and outward expansionist trends etc.
It's an idea that still to this day among some in Northern Ireland who look to Britain (especially Scotland) for help to crush any nationalist movements within the area. For some reason when I speak to protestant N. Irish/Scottish not all but quite a few try to profess their genetic admixture with England and whereever else in the world like it even matters against their native nationality??
If you were to say walk down a protestant street in some areas of Scotland with an Irish flag you can be sure to find yourself in a lot of trouble. I mean real big trouble. The Scots are far more extreme in their conviction for what is called the UK. The attachment to this idea is a lot greater on average than say your run of the mill Jack the lad from England. Ireland being intensely opposed to Britain this doesn’t make for good sentiment among Scots who see the Kingdom of Great Britain as a Scottish creation, which in a way they technically are correct at the very least in that.
It’s only until the Irish go on holiday to our so-called brothers in arms to find out they are despised by half the population. It's actually the Catholic Scots whose family were actually Irish immigrants during the famine who were always opposed to Britain rather than the actual Scottish majority who they saw as some ethnic quasi Germanic Celt and have an affinity towards Ireland. By the way, the Scots exterminated many a number of them during the clearances. In a sense they are more sectarian than the Northern Irish.
So to wrap it up, no, the Scots and the Irish do not see eye to eye and no we don’t have this brotherly love depending, of course, on what kind of a Scot you're implying ;). But ultimately its a myth. People took Brave Heart too seriously, especially the Yanks :).
Also on the last point, I don’t have a problem with Scots or English. I think its a load of rubbish.
But I will say that Ireland/Britain has a lot of texture and very deep complex aspects to it and I don’t want to make it so black and white. Please also refer to a comment made by Alistair Thompson which will give some context on this. I’m not trying to deflect I have a secret dislike for Scots I really have no issue with Britains of any region. What the dispute has devolved into today between Protestant and Catholics is beyond reproach but here is what Alistair said which should be noted for everyone as an example of the depth it goes:
The push and pull factors varied, because it wasn’t really one migration at all, but several. Some of the Scots who came to Ulster were planters who arrived because the king, James VI and I wanted them to put roots down in Ireland, some were Gallowglasses who were actively recruited by the Irish, some were brought over in a couple of private plantations which were organised by Scottish gentry who had bought land from impoverished Irish nobility and some were actually refugees from a famine in Scotland in the 1690s.
Some of the planters who took part in the official plantation with the king’s consent were less than willing to go to Ireland, because they were border reivers who were transported as convicts to Ireland in much the same way as convicts were later transported to the American colonies and after American independence, to Australia.
Many of the Scots in Ulster were Presbyterian (although some were Catholic, in particular those who started as the hired Gallowglasses). The Presbyterians in particular chafed under the Penal Laws after their support for William of Orange, so many of them voluntarily emigrated to the American colonies in the 1700s where they often became frontiersmen in the Appalachians for example and the artificially constructed “Scots Irish” identity in America almost to a man supported America’s war of independence, so great was their distaste for British rule.
You probably already know all about those who stayed in Ulster and were involved with the United Irishmen only a generation later. If only more “Ulster Scots” acknowledged the full history of their very complicated relationship with Britain. Some do of course (especially the Catholic nationalist ones like your Alasdair McDonnells and your John Humes). In my experience though, they are few and far between.
All too easy to pretend that all the Ulster Protestants have always been loyal British subjects and all the Irish Catholics have always been rebels. The full history is an awful lot more complicated, with Catholic loyalists and Protestant rebels galore.
@@steveburnside3242 I know.
@@billycaspersghost7528 Know what?
@@steveburnside3242 All the stuff you said.
Also, I don't think you're Irish .
Yank maybe.
Could be wrong.
Oh, FTP by the way.
Born and lived in Ireland my whole life and have been a huge fan of the channel for a while! Ireland & Scotland, Celtic Brothers forever 💚💙
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Erie - Alba gu brath (Ireland-Scotland forever)
@@mikhailabunidal9146 yep....
@@mikhailabunidal9146 deluded, the Irish hated the Scots, sure you still hate us ulster_scots right until today
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 My Protestant friends in Carlow with English names can’t be Irish then? They must be “Leinster English” 😂
You are a most excellent storyteller.... Bless you sir!
thanks again, Bruce for another great video. yes, I have been to Scotland. however, it was in 1973 and I must say I enjoyed my time there. perhaps, some day, I may return.
I'm not Scottish myself, if anything the furthest from it (English ;) ) but I love history and your passion about your country's history is infectious. Found your videos only a couple days ago, I think it was the Black Watch one, and have binged watched them ever since. You really deserve a big ol' TV contract for a history documentary or something!
Welcome on board
Another well made video that not only tells of Edward Bruce’s failed attempt but also adds background to the not exactly cordial historical relationship between the Scots and the Irish.
I absolutely love your show Bruce, I’d say you have a Wee bit of the story teller in ya. I’m Irish and Scottish, best of both worlds, my parents immigrated to New Jersey years ago where I live today. Thanks for filling me in on the Celtic history I should know which sadly many Americans ignore….Keep on rocking…
I have been to both Scotland and Ireland. Both are beautiful places and I met some great people. Not a fan of Dublin but I think it's just too busy for me. I liked Inverness and Southern Ireland most of all. Can't wait to return.
American here with Scottish roots stopping in to say I love your videos and look forward to learning more about Scottish history with some saltire in the mix.
I truly enjoy and look forward to each of your videos, always both informative and entertaining. Thank you Bruce!
Very welcome
Class video Bruce, as always. You covered a lot of great history. I particularly liked when you were sorting out your pack lunch when discussing the famine. Out of interest, what microphone do you use for your videos? Your audio is always really good even when your outside with the wind etc. Cheers.
I recently got a Sanken COS 11D. It sit's under my shirt on a sticky and has improved things enormously
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Great, thanks for getting back to me, I appreciate it. Hope the gigs go well
Just last week I asked for a video about scots in Ireland. And voila! What nice timing
I am Australian with Irish/Scottish heritage and have visited Scotland 3 rimes and Ireland once and am I itching to visit both again. Absolutely love both peoples, places and history.
Brilliant video. I first went to County Cork in Ireland to visit my father's family when I was a toddler and I need to go back to County Cork at some point.
I am a Riley (changed about 1900 from Reilly). Our home County is Cavan, part of the 9 Counties of old Ulster. My great great grandfather moved to the Nortn East of England arounx 1900. The past 22 years I have lived in Scotland with a Scottish wife and son. Been to Ireland a few times and always loved it. Hoping to go to Sligo in the Summer (mad on Yeats).
Clearly you have good taste...as a Derry native I,m a bit biased towards Seumas Heaney's work..
@ Jim Thistle
Unfortunately both of the spellings are anglicized phonetic spellings of your ancient name of
Ó Raghalligh. ( male)
Ní Raghallaigh ( unmarried female)
All the names / spellings of places and people in Ireland have been angilized and don’t have meaning but when the slime is removed and the original name is uncovered and used it has deep meaning .
It’s probably the same for Scotland and Wales which have also been angilized during the many years of colonization .
Loved it Thankyou!!☕️🍪🤗
So glad!
I'm not scottish and as far as I know n9 scottish ancestry. Only know Scotland is the home of my heart. 🏴🏴
We will be in Scotland this upcoming June. Will be in Perth during our visit.
AlwYs a joy listening to your ‘stories’❤️
Thanks
American here. Grandfather born in Elgin. Visited for a 2 week road trip/family reunion in 1999. Still have close contact with family in Oban and Edinburgh.
American with Scottish, Irish, and English ancestry. I have been to Scotland and Ireland. Enjoyed both immensely. Also, I am really enjoying the history lessons. Thank you!
Thanks for playing
Thank you for this bit of knowledge.
You're welcome
I am Scottish-Australian, and have visited both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Both beautiful, with wonderful people. Can't wait to get back again.
I am a South African of Scottish decent and we visited Scotland twice. Hope to be back.
American of Scottish ancestry firmly planning to visit Scotland as soon as I can.
I am Scottish! I have learned so much from your stories. I want to visit!! Someday. I don't know where to go first.
EVERYWHERE !
Only Scottish by heart; lived there for over a decade, had to leave as the jobs ran out for me. Know I will be visiting again (too many friends there), but doubt I'll ever live there again. That time has passed.
Thanks for the vid.. and have a good Sunday, Bruce...
Thanks, you too!
What a bonnie channel. So happy i found you. Thankyou Bruce. Greetings from Inverness 😊👋🏴
Fàilte
Fascinating as always
Bruce, another great video. You are a most engaging storyteller. Tapadh leat
'S e do bheatha
Well done ! You are a natural teacher using fun, and intrigue as enticing features of your teaching style.
Thank you very much!
Another great video history lesson. Have a great week.
Thanks, you too!
Yes I plan on visiting both Scotland and Ireland. Ancestors from both. Love your videos!
Awesome! Thank you!
Edward colonized Ireland a century before!! Damn he had a long life! Yes been to Ireland for my cousin's wedding we're Welsh and he married into a lovely Irish family who made us really welcome and still do! To my shame I still haven't been to Scotland but soon!
Fascinating as always 😊
Well yes and yes. I'm Welsh and have been to awe inspiring Scotland.
Happy New Year Bruce to you and yours. I love all of your videos which are so informative and fun at the same time, which helps me, at 79, to retain the knowledge you share. I so enjoyed the reveal of the DNA journeys, what a laugh and surprise for your family. My grandmother used to say, “We’re all Jock Tamson’s bairnies,” how true that is. We are all so much more than the sum of the parts, my belief. My results from Ancestry were 67% Scottish, 32% Irish 1% Norwegian which just about backed up my 20 year hobby spent on my family tree, but I wonder just how accurate this can be, seeing as many of the folk in the British Isles, as we know it today, were from Brittany, Normandy, Saxony and Scandinavia etc., so fascinating. Getting uppity about who we are gets us, as a human gene pool, nowhere. We are part of a rich diverse world, where respect, kindness and love should be our number one priority. You are a great teacher, doing a superb job, ignore the ignorant!
Another great video, thanks Bruce.
You're welcome
Hi, went to Dublin, Cork on to the South West and traveled up the west side and accross to the giants causeway and down to Belfast.
Been, to Scotland afew times Saw a good bit of the country lovely country and people greetings from southern ireland
I'm American, my grandfather was born in Rosyth, Fife, he immigrated to the USA when he was 17, way back in 1919. I'm glad to have found your channel, i spent some time in Scotland about 30 years ago and would love to visit again. Thank you for your stories.
I'm glad you found it too
"To fight each other as God intended." 🤣😂
😘
I am American, with some Scottish heritage on my Dad's side, and Irish on my Mother's side. I would love to visit both, as well as England and Wales.
Great post ,sir, Nigel Tranter did justice to this period in his novels, doing justice yourself to the shared history of ours...peace and love from the jubilant red portion of Merseyside....E
First of your videos I've seen. Thoroughly engrossing. Have subscribed, will watch more. Thanks muchly.
im Irish raised in england (mum from Co Laois and father Limerick). worked in Elgin for a week back in 88 putting a phone system into a travel agents 'Lunn Poly'...remember them? fled to Australia shortly after. Visited again few years ago, got train to Fort William from London in winter, beautiful . Stayed for couple nights and then home again. loved it.
Well done Bruce. Another good one.
Within my lineage of Scots (on both sides ) are Also the additions of French, Welch & Irish. Love your channel. 🕊💓🕊👌 thank you 😘
Love that!
I'm a confused Yorkshire man, farther from Hexham, mother from Dublin, and love visiting Scotland
I remember going to Carrickfergus Castle and learning about the bit where the defenders had to resort to cannibalism during Edward Bruce’s siege always thought it was something that they’d hide from kids but obviously they knew some of us were reading Horrible Histories
They told us , they kept scottish prisoners in the dungeons , so i went home and asked
"When were we at war with scotland " 🤔🤔
Loved it m8 👍
This is one of the big 'what ifs' in Scottish, Irish and I suppose English history and yet so few people know about it . Great choice for a video.
Thanks
Irish to my core, but a big fan of this channel.
Seconded...
That's the best I've ever seen a Discovery parked in Carrickfergus car park!
Hope the seagulls were kind!
Great to see you here, hope you feel welcome my man!
🤣Aye, the people were more welcoming than the weather 0
I m Irish Tunisian mixed. Been to Scotland a few times. Love Inverness , Edinburgh, been to Orkney too. Fantastic place altogether . I might have Scottish ancestors (McDonnells in my family tree- there s some Irish septs of the name as well as Scottish ones)
American with Scottish ancestry. I've been to Scotland twice and am planning to visit again and hoping to do the Saint Cuthbert's Way! fingers crossed. Great videos!
Thanks for sharing.
I live barely more than a mile or two from Edward Bruce's grave. According to historical accounts that I heard, Edward's passing wasn't greatly regretted through most of island of Ireland that he and his forces laid waste to. Those were tough times back then and armies, whether Edward Bruce's or their Norman/Irish/English enemies, tended to mete out cruelty to the people they met on their way. Irish peasants naturally didn't take kindly to marching armies stealing their produce for their own sustenance or their burning of towns and villages they might pass through. Had he been less cruel and less impetuous Edward Bruce's death might have been mourned more than it was, but he made his choices and so it was that he was largely forgotten to Irish history,
+what about the Scottish peasants left behind in scotia by a bunch of scotish norman crackheads, DeBruce was not successful in Ireland, he was defeated by his own kin, the Normans in Ireland , thankfully
in Ireland we were still under the norman yolk until 1916, you Scots are still under the Norman yolk until you kick them out, even now you scots are still ruled by the Normans = anglo saxons, norman De Bruce
Just another horrible footnote in Irish history. I believe the Irish sent Edwards's head back to the king of England with words to the effect "I think this belongs to you."
@@deborahh2195 The irish? That would be debatable since he was defeated by a combioned English/Norman army, albeit with Irish allies. One thing is certain, Edward Bruce did nothing to endear himself to his supposed Irish subjects.
Another great vid Bruce! Knew about Edward from a really good documentary I saw here on RUclips (can't remember the name though). It was a really bloody period of Irish (and Scots) history...
Scottish but my Mum always thought we were from NI due to our surname. However, recently stumbled on the geneology of a guy called Francis Jay Herron who was a Union General in the American Civil War (and Medal of Honour recipient). If his geneology has been worked out correctly it goes back through NI to Dumfries & Galloway and then on to a certain Robert Heron Herroun (1405-90) who came from Angus - where I was born & grew up. So looks like we started in Angus then branched out to NI rather than the other way round.
Been to Ireland (both parts) a number of times in my youth... for the colleens & rugby!!
The best reasons to go I'd say
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Not anymore... the first would get me divorced!! XD
Great video Bruce, you have a lovely way of telling the story. I'm from Tír Chonaill and I have a Great Grandmother from the Isle of Skye, never been to Skye but I hear it's beautiful
I too am of Irish decent on my mother's side just as I'm of Scottish on my father's. To be fair I'm a collection of peoples from the Isle's. I'm planning a trip to visit Scotland when I retire in a few years. I want to visit the ancestral lands of Argyle. I need to do some more research on my mother's side to find out where to go in Ireland. Thanks Bruce, great story once again. Whence Saturday came and went I was saddened that no alert had warned me of a new video. But then low and behold Sunday arrived and with it a brand new educational and entertaining experience! Thanks mate, my week's now compete
Aye I'm still across the water and we had some uploading problems
@@ScotlandHistoryTours well Bruce, when the day comes that I make my way to the home of my ancestors I hope to have a cup of coffee with ya. In my younger years a pint or a dram was more like it but as I've aged alcohol is no longer my friend but I'd be honored to buy you a cup of Joe as we say in the colonies. You sir are my absolute favorite channel on RUclips, good evening from America!
From the Scottish Borders here. 🙏🏻😎🏴
Irish here, never been to Scotland so probably should make my way over at some point!
Get it done min
Thanks man ☘
American here, with pre-colonial roots to Scotland, Ireland, and Wales. The Welsh means roots to the Normans through the Marcher Lords, which, of course, means roots to those Anglo-Irish-Normans you're talking about here. Just recently discovered your channel and find it fascinating. And I would love to visit Scotland as well as Ireland and Wales, but these days I don't travel much.
Welcome on board
With a bit of luck this summer will be our closest to normal since 2019 so travellers can travel again, properly, you would find yourself very welcome in the UK whichever of our nations you visited first.
What's pre colonial? And being of Welsh, Scots and Irish you're probably English
Steve Ferry and chance its yer dad that's from Scotland 😉
@@ScotlandHistoryTours wherevis mr ferry from
Thank you for the great video!
Yes, I have been to Ireland. Just once. I think it was in 2003. I went there with a friend and we visited Glendalough, the Burren castle, the Dingle peninsula, the parliament of Dublin. It was fantastic! I'm not Scottish. I am French.
Great video mo chara👏🏻
Visited Scotland, and would love to visit Ireland. 🤞 Actually, want to spend more time in both places.
I'm Scottish, transplanted over Hadrian's wall at a young age, bounced a couple of times around England and wound up in Michigan in my early 30s, married to a native. Only visited Ireland once, Dublin over New Years's Eve 2012/2013. Spent three wonderful nights in The Old Stand Pub in Dublin, which was reputed to be four hundred years old, or at least a pub had been there for four hundred years. I need to go back.
Me too.....
I'm Scottish, Bruce. I've never set foot on the island of Ireland, though I've been on the Scottish side of the Causeway 😄 I do want to go, but the last time I was choosing a Euro city break it came down to Dublin v Berlin and I chose Berlin because I realised it was soon going to be a bit more difficult to get there (Brexit) and it appeared that it woud be quite a bit cheaper with better beer (sorry Guinness) and the whole dark fascination with WW2, the cold war era, the wall and everything. But I definitely will go to Ireland one day soon.
Pick anywhere in Ireland except Dublin
I live in Ireland. It s a good place. But apparently Berlin s a real party town
I have Scottish and Irish heritage. I cannot wait to come spend time in the islands!
Aw lovely vids mate. 🇬🇧🏴
I'm a descendant of the O'Neils of County Tir Eoghan. Born and bred in Scotland. Thanks for this.
Scottish. I lived in Ireland for 4 years. I've trace my family tree to Conn Mòr O'Neil, via Felix O'Neil the last Earl of Kiltaugh so this was fascinating for me. I've researched quite a bit on the O'Neil history. The book Flight of the Earls touches on it. Great stuff Bruce.
I would love to see videos on each of the Scottish Clans. As a member of Clan Matheson I would love to learn more about my ancestors.
Cli.t at Scottish Clans Podcast does sone good stuff about the clans
Yet another informative video Bruce, I had the pleasure of visiting Carrickfergus for the first time last August, where we occupied the castle, for the commemoration of the 1689 siege, brought over to portray McCarty's Catholic garrison! Made for an interesting event , successful it was though and we are repeating the task this August :-) If you are ever curious to know more please get in touch
I take it you do re-enactments all over
American. Of Scots and Irish descent. Been to Scotland (well, Edinburgh anyway), want to tramp the highlands. Had a chance to go to Ireland in '77, but it was still in the troubles, so passed on it. Would love to go now though.
To be fair I think they'd be too busy shooting each other rather than you
I'm from the USA. I have Scotch-Irish ancestry. I want to visit both Ireland and Scotland someday.
Yes, do it
Canadian / American here. I was in Edinburgh for 3 days in 2019 on a trip that was mostly England. Next time, I'm spending more time traveling around Scotland. Edinburgh, Inverness, Glencoe, North Coast 500, etc.
Of course you should
There ya go again Bruce, upping the ante production-value-wise. Of course yer stories are outstanding, that's a given. But who did all that hard video work, properly composing the frames, eh? Credit where credit is due mon! And thanks for another fine use of my time! 😊
The bear references were a nice touch. I knew little to nothing about Edward Bruce before watching your highly entertaining video. I hope to visit Scotland and (with a little luck) Ireland this summer. I took my American wife to Scotland in 2019 before Covid struck and she loved it. She has some Scottish blood as well on her paternal grandmother's side (Armstrong). I'm looking forward to your next video.
@🏴Scotland History Tours w/ Bruce Fummey
B. I'm neither Scottish nor Irish Bruce , but I will go eventually when the pandemic is over God willing
Live and work here, 22years now, I used to live in leixlip, local church has a sign up about it being sacked by Edward Bruce. Keep up the good work.
I'am Flemish and I did a motorbike tour of both Scotland and Ireland
Wonderful. I think I'd rather the comfort of a campbervan though
@@ScotlandHistoryTours is that a Camp(-beltown) -van Brucie? 😄
Cool video! I’m Irish! Come to Ireland again and meet for a beverage :-)
I was born & raised in California, have Irish ancestry, and have been to Scotland five times. 🏴❤️
I'm Irish from Irish border and grew up in Dundalk! Great grandparents from Tyrone! Marching from Tyrone camped in dowdels hill (dundalk) and fought in the battle of the boyne. Been to Edinburgh before O like very much.
I'm Scottish, never been to the republic of Ireland, only ever NI when I was very young. Always wanted to go back
Recommend Durty Nellis by Bunratty castle...excellent Salmon and Guinness...E
Love this video Bruce yes I’m both Irish and scottish