Great video man. I remember when Reddit and others gave you stick about the first video, claiming it wouldn't work and so on. Always good to see people proven wrong in these kinda videos.
@Bulldog, thanks a lot for sharing that team! I was just able to do a solo, scoring 38 million. Funnily enough, I got to the 4th topple. The first topple went well. The second I had some bad rng with the sabers so it didn't go as well. After the second one CLS got fractured but I managed to kill all sabers with good rng and get to the 3rd topple. The 3rd one wasn't all that great but I could deal some decent damage. Due to insane rng luck I was able to reach the 4th topple (but CLS died). After the 3rd topple my team got to 100% tm before Traya moved so I didn't give her a turn and managed to reach the 4th topple. There I did 60% of p3. CLS was gone but Traya's tenacity was SO high that Ezra, C3PO, SRP and BB8 were enough to get the TM train going. The damage from CLS was clearly lacking so it took me 3 hours to complete, but I did it! Thanks for the guide buddy, I wouldn't have done it without it!
Glad to see SRP works better! ... Full solo is definitely possible. But you're right, it does look tough and unfun to pull off. Plus you're cannibalizing other teams ... potential 8m from JTR P1, 8m from NS (since you'll be too late for P4), and 3-4m from p3 from a regular chex mix run. So the incremental damage from this team is not that appealing, especially for the amount of work you need to do. I don't see this becoming as wide spread as the Finn team.
Agree completely. It will be big for those guilds that can’t complete the raid otherwise. And I’m sure some people will be willing to spend an hour on this every time to get top rewards. Not me though, and probably most people. This was exciting to do just to prove I can. That’s about all.
8milliom with c3po in phase 1 using Jedi Rey? My oh my, you must be doing something terrible wrong. I score 8 to 8.7 million in tje regular basis with the classic JTR, RT, Scav Rey, bb8, r2.
Would Paploo be a substitute for SRP? He can call 3po to assist to get cooldowns and there are synergies he has with ewoks. Also, chances are most people have gear invested in him because they have 3po.
Have you tried zeta Farmboy Luke instead of SRP? He's got tremendous potential w/his stacking crit damage. Plus he gives himself 50% tm and everybody else 10% tm each time he uses his basic. That crit damage will stack very quickly and he'll be going all the time with all that tm he gives himself. He'll need to be modded for crit chance and offense so that he crits every time he attacks.
@@Bulldog1205 that's a shame. Once I score a 7* 3po I think I'm gonna try it just to find out. I've come across a couple of zFarmboys in ga and tw and they're surprisingly effective.
Damn i should try that after i gear up Creepio and Ezra possibly, i have farmboy at g12 with zeta lol. Everyone were laughing, now it's time for shine!
Speeds are shown at the very beginning. No one has good speed. Offense is more important IMO. Speed does help a little bit but it certainly wasn’t my focus.
I enjoy your videos and am planning to try this out when my guild's next sith raid launches. We're only at tier 6 right now but will be cool to see how this works personally. I just got 3PO last week when it came back and debated whether or not to at least get all his abilities maxed. I opted to max them as I though it'd be better to use him in GA and TW. So, I'm glad a strong 3PO works too. Is Scarif Pathfinder essential? I was thinking for another assist, I could sub in Hera or Hermit Yoda if he escapes when I use him with my Revan team.
Delvorin I believe he’s essential to solo with a max C3PO. You can still get 20-30% with Han and it’s easier to setup, but the ceiling is much lower. Yoda probably won’t work well because he won’t get TM from the CLS lead. I don’t really see Hera working as well either tbh. There’s not as much TM gain there.
Sorry I missed your question there. I usually reply to every question I’m tagged in on discord. I get a ton of those throughout different channels though. But anyways, I think modding everyone for max damage is the best. Speed for C3PO is best, since he doesn’t attack. CLS might be best modded for potency. Not sure of the math there.
It doesn’t work well except in specific cases. You risk a) C3PO not getting enough TM to complete the loop and b) Ezra gaining op much TM and jumping C3PO and not getting his cooldowns reset. I probably could have called BB8 more than I did, but there is already enough to think about here without complicating it even more. It’s really not THAT hard, but when you are doing it for an hour it’s easy to slip up and ruin a lot of effort.
@@Bulldog1205 ah ok, thx, also about finn's rework do you think the 60% increase will stay a fixed increase aka. if 10k dmg it increases by 6k each time or if it increase every time aka 60% of 16k, cause, that will get insanely high
@@TheDogfight76 That's my question. You've done such a phenomenal job theory crafting here. Regardless, you do a great job with these vids. Keep it up.
I’ve got a previous video using Han. I’ve hit up to 30% with him. I was averaging in the low 20s probably after I got it down. If you have a lower gear/ability C3PO I am convinced you can solo it with Han. I can’t test that though.
@@Bulldog1205 All of my toons are g12+, no issue there. I just do not have SRP at that lvl and want to use Han. It was a general question. Why did you prefer him over Han?
Joshree69 Cyborg relations. Omega gives +30% potency for every stack of translation. Which is usually 30% (always is for C3PO). You would get a lot more resists (and thus TM gain) without that. You’d also get a lot more if he was at G8 or so.
@@Bulldog1205 Ohhhh that makes sense, however I feel that you should still omega that for the other parts of the game at the very least, correct? I don't think leaving the omega off and keeping him a low gear would be overall a good idea to run a raid every 4 days. Kind of like having a low gear Talzin for Deathstorm when she is so good in rena and Tw and GA
Joshree69 no doubt on the gear. The ability (extra potency) probably doesn’t matter so much other places. Most people did it for the Finn raid teams but that is disappearing. I’d argue not having it is more valuable if you are willing to spend time running this team in the HSR and it’s the difference in placing top 10 or not.
@@Bulldog1205 Ahh that sounds good man, I definitely plan to look into it but my account is pretty young yet haha. I just know a lot and research a lot more. One day I meant catch up to the legendary grind but not yet. Maybe the end of this year or start of next
Would Chewie work in place of SRP or Han? I think a low geared C3PO would easily get guard, and that would mean every time the loop happens, there is extra damage from Chewie, which may make the run a tad faster and less onerous.
Thomas Matthews problem is Chewie doesn’t have the ability to inflict any debuffs on Traya, so you only get 5% TM per hit. SRP spreads 20% per hit. If you have a low gear C3PO then that’s fine, you are getting resists from him to make up for it. But with a max C3PO, even if you got him guard, I can’t see it working
Thi Kim Dung Nguyen thanks. What about raid Han instead of pathfinder? The forum had something about it being an auto team? I can’t find the page, but will look.
Aedan Shiel he passively calls C3PO to assist to reduce cooldowns of everyone with 3 stacks of translation. Allows Ezra and C3PO to use their specials every turn.
This wouldn't work the same way in other phases because with each hit, the boss gets faster or gains turn meter. Reason this works for phase 3 is you can topple traya and she doesn't gain turn meter for every hit.
I’ll stick with Han instead of SRP since my SRP has zero gear invested in him. At least this way I can still get some decent P3 damage in. I don’t mind that I use BB8 here instead of P1 because my Revan team can do the last 10% of P1 and jump into P2.
Lame... need a dummy team to soak isolate? That’s a no go in my guild... 1 attack per phase means 1 attack... is there any way to accomplish without a dummy team?
Christopher Read because we screen shot the points at the beginning of each phase and penalize people for not following the rules, we have kicked two members out for using a dummy team. I suppose if people can make a dummy team that does 0 damage then I suppose it would go undetected
Christopher Read FallenJedi I am an officer and have been in my guild since before guilds existed, thanks. I don’t have a problem with our restrictions, just looking for an alternative that fits within our guildlines
@@TheDojason makes sense, can't blame for offering! An alternative could be to discuss 0 damage isolation burner teams with your other officers and guild.
A guy on reddit just make your idea easier and better, what proof your point (kind of). Pls do a new vid trying his idea and your thoughts on it. He uses Farmboy for debuffs and more tm and more damage! www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/b6dy7w/meanwhile_in_phase_3_of_the_heroic_sith_raid/
Yeah I feel like cg should just leave zeta fin alone. And tweak the details in the sith raid in the detail section saying something like infinite loops will be capped after 30 million damage or something. Lol just so no auto solo is possible like what they want.
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Great video man. I remember when Reddit and others gave you stick about the first video, claiming it wouldn't work and so on. Always good to see people proven wrong in these kinda videos.
@Bulldog, thanks a lot for sharing that team! I was just able to do a solo, scoring 38 million. Funnily enough, I got to the 4th topple. The first topple went well. The second I had some bad rng with the sabers so it didn't go as well. After the second one CLS got fractured but I managed to kill all sabers with good rng and get to the 3rd topple. The 3rd one wasn't all that great but I could deal some decent damage. Due to insane rng luck I was able to reach the 4th topple (but CLS died). After the 3rd topple my team got to 100% tm before Traya moved so I didn't give her a turn and managed to reach the 4th topple. There I did 60% of p3. CLS was gone but Traya's tenacity was SO high that Ezra, C3PO, SRP and BB8 were enough to get the TM train going. The damage from CLS was clearly lacking so it took me 3 hours to complete, but I did it! Thanks for the guide buddy, I wouldn't have done it without it!
Proof of concept complete. Shared this to my guild discord raid channel. Great Vid.
Wow Bulldog this is a beautiful theory craft top job man. Looking forward to your solo it'll be a serious feat for the community to see!
Glad to see SRP works better! ... Full solo is definitely possible.
But you're right, it does look tough and unfun to pull off. Plus you're cannibalizing other teams ... potential 8m from JTR P1, 8m from NS (since you'll be too late for P4), and 3-4m from p3 from a regular chex mix run.
So the incremental damage from this team is not that appealing, especially for the amount of work you need to do. I don't see this becoming as wide spread as the Finn team.
Finn will be fix soon, so CLS can be alternative.
Agree completely. It will be big for those guilds that can’t complete the raid otherwise. And I’m sure some people will be willing to spend an hour on this every time to get top rewards. Not me though, and probably most people. This was exciting to do just to prove I can. That’s about all.
@@Bulldog1205 nicely done. Can't wait to hear from more stuff from you.
8milliom with c3po in phase 1 using Jedi Rey? My oh my, you must be doing something terrible wrong. I score 8 to 8.7 million in tje regular basis with the classic JTR, RT, Scav Rey, bb8, r2.
Kiek Schoentag On auto?
I tried using Ackbar instead of BB8 and it seems that gives a bug with his second special. The "Tactical Genius" buff disappears.
Would Paploo be a substitute for SRP? He can call 3po to assist to get cooldowns and there are synergies he has with ewoks. Also, chances are most people have gear invested in him because they have 3po.
Even though Paploo Escobar have synergy with C3PO, he won't gain TM from CLS since ewoks don't have Rebel tag.
Ive been trying to work in Sabine for her armor break, but she's really hard to keep alive.
Have you tried zeta Farmboy Luke instead of SRP? He's got tremendous potential w/his stacking crit damage. Plus he gives himself 50% tm and everybody else 10% tm each time he uses his basic. That crit damage will stack very quickly and he'll be going all the time with all that tm he gives himself. He'll need to be modded for crit chance and offense so that he crits every time he attacks.
Elijah I have not. I could see him working. Seems like a reasonable idea. I’m not willing to spend that zeta or gear to find out though, lol.
@@Bulldog1205 that's a shame. Once I score a 7* 3po I think I'm gonna try it just to find out. I've come across a couple of zFarmboys in ga and tw and they're surprisingly effective.
Damn i should try that after i gear up Creepio and Ezra possibly, i have farmboy at g12 with zeta lol. Everyone were laughing, now it's time for shine!
@@klodicz19 let us know how it goes and good luck!
@@elijah1884 A lot of work still, but i'll try lol, and farmboy gets 40% tm for crit, and btw, that 10% you said it's from resisting?
The health steal from the multitool would heal bb8 up during the 2. topple. Maybe u got the chance for a 3rd then
Isolate is the bigger problem.
What are the possible substitutes for Scariff Rebel Pathfinder?
Farmboy. I'm not joking.
What is the speed order on this team? Also congrats for the near solo it's cool that it works :D
Speeds are shown at the very beginning. No one has good speed. Offense is more important IMO. Speed does help a little bit but it certainly wasn’t my focus.
Yeah, similar to NS in P4 in that you gain 99% of the TM based on percentage gains, not speed..
Any viable substitute for Scarif Rebel Pathfinder by any chance?
I enjoy your videos and am planning to try this out when my guild's next sith raid launches. We're only at tier 6 right now but will be cool to see how this works personally. I just got 3PO last week when it came back and debated whether or not to at least get all his abilities maxed. I opted to max them as I though it'd be better to use him in GA and TW. So, I'm glad a strong 3PO works too. Is Scarif Pathfinder essential? I was thinking for another assist, I could sub in Hera or Hermit Yoda if he escapes when I use him with my Revan team.
Delvorin I believe he’s essential to solo with a max C3PO. You can still get 20-30% with Han and it’s easier to setup, but the ceiling is much lower. Yoda probably won’t work well because he won’t get TM from the CLS lead. I don’t really see Hera working as well either tbh. There’s not as much TM gain there.
Since you don't answer in our ship chat, dies str need to be that fast? I have mine slow fir my jtr anti revan line up
Sorry I missed your question there. I usually reply to every question I’m tagged in on discord. I get a ton of those throughout different channels though. But anyways, I think modding everyone for max damage is the best. Speed for C3PO is best, since he doesn’t attack. CLS might be best modded for potency. Not sure of the math there.
Does calling BB-8 with the extra damage not outweigh the benefit of extra turn meter for 3PO? Have you tested this? Or does it pretty much equal out?
It doesn’t work well except in specific cases. You risk a) C3PO not getting enough TM to complete the loop and b) Ezra gaining op much TM and jumping C3PO and not getting his cooldowns reset. I probably could have called BB8 more than I did, but there is already enough to think about here without complicating it even more. It’s really not THAT hard, but when you are doing it for an hour it’s easy to slip up and ruin a lot of effort.
@@Bulldog1205 ah ok, thx, also about finn's rework do you think the 60% increase will stay a fixed increase aka. if 10k dmg it increases by 6k each time or if it increase every time aka 60% of 16k, cause, that will get insanely high
Hello, @Bulldog, does it still work?
So what kind of speed is needed? Do these guys have to be gear 12 to work?
SRP is low gear on my account.
So can I give c3po an ass load of speed? Will that effect the turn order?
Great thinking! Great strategy! Why using BB8 if you dont use illuminated Destiny? Any other char for BB8? Thank you for another great video!
He’s just there to call C3PO to assist to reset his cooldown so he can use his mass assist every turn.
Bulldog1205 Thank. You for the answer. I will give it a try. Did you try JTR? She is calling C3PO against DN constantly to assist.
Any other toon to use besides SRP? I do not want to invest that much gear into him...lol
MegaRacerX Good Question !! Another toon possible ❓
@@TheDogfight76 That's my question. You've done such a phenomenal job theory crafting here. Regardless, you do a great job with these vids. Keep it up.
U will miss out on bistans u wing
@@anipaul8552 i understand that but I finish first in fleet without it. Not a necessity for me thankfully.
I’ve got a previous video using Han. I’ve hit up to 30% with him. I was averaging in the low 20s probably after I got it down. If you have a lower gear/ability C3PO I am convinced you can solo it with Han. I can’t test that though.
Finally some love for SRP!!
is this still working?
Hi, you said that killing the sabres add tenacity - where can I read about that? First Ive heard that (and some folks doing hstr also).
If you go to the raid details section in the game it will give you all the details. There are so many it’s easy to forget about a lot of them.
Can you give some altrernatives? Like you said Han in SRP's place. Why you changed? Any other possible swaps?
XT T not many alternatives IF you have a strong C3PO (higher potency). If you have a weak C3PO you can throw Han or Luke in there.
@@Bulldog1205 All of my toons are g12+, no issue there. I just do not have SRP at that lvl and want to use Han. It was a general question. Why did you prefer him over Han?
So you talk about how you lose potency with the one of Threepio's omega'd abilities, which ability are you talking about? His basic?
Joshree69 Cyborg relations. Omega gives +30% potency for every stack of translation. Which is usually 30% (always is for C3PO). You would get a lot more resists (and thus TM gain) without that. You’d also get a lot more if he was at G8 or so.
@@Bulldog1205 Ohhhh that makes sense, however I feel that you should still omega that for the other parts of the game at the very least, correct? I don't think leaving the omega off and keeping him a low gear would be overall a good idea to run a raid every 4 days. Kind of like having a low gear Talzin for Deathstorm when she is so good in rena and Tw and GA
Joshree69 no doubt on the gear. The ability (extra potency) probably doesn’t matter so much other places. Most people did it for the Finn raid teams but that is disappearing. I’d argue not having it is more valuable if you are willing to spend time running this team in the HSR and it’s the difference in placing top 10 or not.
@@Bulldog1205 Ahh that sounds good man, I definitely plan to look into it but my account is pretty young yet haha. I just know a lot and research a lot more. One day I meant catch up to the legendary grind but not yet. Maybe the end of this year or start of next
Bulldog1205 hey how is it that traya isn't gaining tm when u topple her??i only et to go like 2 times per toon
So I understand that Ezra and c3po can’t go twice before the other one goes but does the others matter in terms of order?
Would Chewie work in place of SRP or Han? I think a low geared C3PO would easily get guard, and that would mean every time the loop happens, there is extra damage from Chewie, which may make the run a tad faster and less onerous.
Thomas Matthews problem is Chewie doesn’t have the ability to inflict any debuffs on Traya, so you only get 5% TM per hit. SRP spreads 20% per hit. If you have a low gear C3PO then that’s fine, you are getting resists from him to make up for it. But with a max C3PO, even if you got him guard, I can’t see it working
Mine is currently G7, so plenty of resists. Really the question was “would Chewie be better than Han at low gear.” I should have clarified.
Can someone help me how is traya not gaining tm? I topple her an get maybe 2 tried per toon..
do you not have the multitool on BB8?
Why use scarib rebel pathfinder? Can raid Han be used instead?
charles g He gave 15% TM per basic atk
Thi Kim Dung Nguyen thanks. What about raid Han instead of pathfinder? The forum had something about it being an auto team? I can’t find the page, but will look.
Well, my 3PO has the same potency than yours but impossible to inflict confuse
How is it possible ?
Have you been able to try out Finn in this lineup?
does this still work?
prodigy1605 yes, it does, although power creep has made it much less popular.
I might have missed it but why SPF instead of rhan?
prolly cause SRP provides TM on basic
@@xenocxenoc340 yeah, I found out, thx :-)
Do you think its still doable with rhan? What about hera?
I’ve hit 30% damage with Han. If you have a weak C3PO I believe you can solo it with Han. It’s so much easier to run with him and his extra damage.
Can't we get rid of bb8. Use chewie or hyoda
I think it needs to be a resistance character
He’s required. You must have him to call C3PO to assist. I haven’t found any suitable replacement yet. I don’t believe there is one.
Wow nice team and its not bug! No need nerf or rework
Great video bulldog
🤘 Awesome Video brotha !!!!
why is bb8 used?
Aedan Shiel he passively calls C3PO to assist to reduce cooldowns of everyone with 3 stacks of translation. Allows Ezra and C3PO to use their specials every turn.
Why is Finn rework not hitting. I am not sure I want to zeta Finn or not
Don't. Wait and see the feedback for how his new lead does.
I am desperate w P1. can this team score big in P1? I don't have JTR. I am Rebel fans
This wouldn't work the same way in other phases because with each hit, the boss gets faster or gains turn meter. Reason this works for phase 3 is you can topple traya and she doesn't gain turn meter for every hit.
why not use ezra to call bb8 to assist instead? that will trigger c3p0 also
Because C3PO needs the turn meter
I’ll stick with Han instead of SRP since my SRP has zero gear invested in him. At least this way I can still get some decent P3 damage in.
I don’t mind that I use BB8 here instead of P1 because my Revan team can do the last 10% of P1 and jump into P2.
SRP grants to all the team 15% TM. and 70% to grant another 5% TM. Han gives hardly any TM.
Can you do it with JTR lead instead? It gives 10% turn meter on Expose.
They nerfed this right?
Ms. Olympia nope, no changes. Still works
* hat tip *
Can someone replace scalif
โอภาส อธิวรกุล if you have a weaker C3PO then SRP is overkill and you don’t need him. With a maxed C3PO I couldn’t get it to work any other way.
Hmm maybe bb8 out team and sabine in
Lame... need a dummy team to soak isolate? That’s a no go in my guild... 1 attack per phase means 1 attack... is there any way to accomplish without a dummy team?
How would they know if you use a dummy team?
Christopher Read because we screen shot the points at the beginning of each phase and penalize people for not following the rules, we have kicked two members out for using a dummy team. I suppose if people can make a dummy team that does 0 damage then I suppose it would go undetected
@@TheDojason if you want a guild that has hSTR but doesn't require that level of micromanaging, let me know.
Christopher Read FallenJedi I am an officer and have been in my guild since before guilds existed, thanks. I don’t have a problem with our restrictions, just looking for an alternative that fits within our guildlines
@@TheDojason makes sense, can't blame for offering! An alternative could be to discuss 0 damage isolation burner teams with your other officers and guild.
A guy on reddit just make your idea easier and better, what proof your point (kind of). Pls do a new vid trying his idea and your thoughts on it. He uses Farmboy for debuffs and more tm and more damage! www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/comments/b6dy7w/meanwhile_in_phase_3_of_the_heroic_sith_raid/
João Cavalcanti I’ve wanted to try it for a while but I’m pretty sure a weak C3PO and I don’t have that.
Night sisters are already able to get to over 50% done in phase 3
Yeah I feel like cg should just leave zeta fin alone. And tweak the details in the sith raid in the detail section saying something like infinite loops will be capped after 30 million damage or something. Lol just so no auto solo is possible like what they want.