Dang dude! You’re pumping out this awesome content! Please don’t overwork yourself or run out of board games lol. Found your channel right after the Grape Escape video! I love board games and these types of videos!
@@OldCrappyCouch You also seem to have hit upon a niche that really nobody else has, and that's comparison reviews for original or vintage and remade board games, see a lot of reviews for vintage ones, but I think your videos are the first I've seen where two versions are compared in depth, and that you also don't just automatically call the original one better is an even bigger plus. I've now purchased a copy of Forbidden Bridge based on your review!
I’ve been watching for around a week or so now, exclusively your board game reviews/comparisons. I don’t own any board games but have been really enjoying your presentation style and attention to detail. Thank you for making these, you’re very entertaining and your content is really informative!
I still have my Electronic Talking Battleship I received in 1989. Had to take it apart and clean the board about 20 years ago, but the last time I put batteries in, it still worked
Very pleased to see from your reviews that Hasbro actually seems to be caring about putting some good quality into these classic, even legendary, board games that they have taken ownership of This is another game I have fond memories of playing as a kid, I had a version released by Milton Bradley in 1993 which had some cool extra details on the case, but also seemed to use a lot more cardboard in the game sets themselves, including a blue cardboard square to make the clear plastic look blue! Good to see that Hasbro went back to the original look of the game for inspiration instead of the 90s one, which to my recollection also felt pretty fragile
@@jhoch5 The new game boards do feel very sturdy. Aside from some very minor details, Hasbro has done an excellent job with the modern update of the game. Battleship is one of their better updates for sure.
Battleship is an all time classic. Another naval combat game I loved was Torpedo Run. If you’ve never played I highly recommend it. Love the videos keep up the good work!
Great comparison review! Hard to mess up a simple gameboard like Battleship. The new addition is a win for me, less required storage for it without the box and the pegs look easier to grab, not the original pegs were difficult to grab. Though it would have been nice if the Battleship logos were more noticeable and not the exact same coloring as the cover. Can't wait to see a Guess Who comparison.
The 2002 edition was my first copy of Battleship, and is my favorite. I saw the 2022 edition you reviewed in a Target, and I said, "NOPE". I didn't know about the plastic that you mentioned about changing color. Nice review!
Amazing that you upload this right as I was feeling nostalgic for Battleship... As much as i love the simple, classic design of the original, the new version feels very "tactical", like you're actually sat at a monitor aboard a battleship. Those pegs are incredible too. (But the fact you can't doublestack them like some early 2000's versions does create issues for some custom rulesets... but hey, nothing you can't work around!) I'm surprised too that all the electronic versions still require you to tediously and manually punch in your ship locations and stuff like the old 1970's ones. I vaguely recall one that used a laser pen to automatically detect ship placements and hits, and would spray your opponent with water if you scored a hit.
@@OldCrappyCouch The only thing that would make an electronic battleship set worth it, is if it automatically detected ship placements, and hits/misses. Manually needing to punch in ship positions makes it too much setup work for an otherwise quick boardgame. And maybe it could have a "VS computer" mode like some electronic chess boards.
Honestly, you've done an Amazing Job explaining the vintage Battleship to the New Battleship BUT I always will go with the old school Battleship; though mine were black boxes and NOT Red & Blue! Anyway Great Video 😃
I came across your game version comparison vids a few days ago. I really like your presentation style and have subscribed. There are good pairings looking at different versions of games such as Scoop!
great video as usual! i'm very glad to have found your channel. if you're interested in suggestions, consider Space Hulk which famously has classic and modern versions. keep up the great work! your joy and enthusiasm are infectious and plain to see.
Classic board game. Grew up in the 1970s youngest of 4. So most of our family games were the 1960s versions sometimes 1950s for older games. Other than the box getting damaged the biggest problem with classic battleship is keeping track of the pegs and eventually the ships.
I have that vintage battleship and a vintage hangman that's made the same way. The cool thing about the vintage hangman is it has Vincent price on the cover. Lol Another classic and great hit. Thanks didn't even know they did an updated version.
Fun fact: MB released a version with sounds in 1977. It had many visual updates as well. What I don't know, but I'm guessing here: did Battleship become public domain? Because I noticed many companies reproduce it (Noris, Clementoni to name a few) and they even use the ''Battleship'' name.
Battleship is an odd one because it was a pen and paper game sold throughout the 1930's. The pegboard concept was first created by Ed Hutchins and licensed to Milton Bradley in 1967, so that would have been what gave them a patent, not the name. The design of the game board might be the only thing Hasbro actually owns exclusive rights to. That would explain why they redesign the game every so often.
@@OldCrappyCouch ow I definitely didn't know that. But I can see the way it can be made easily on a sheet of paper or a template sheet That's a nice piece of Trivia there. My guess is as good as anyone's but considering the re-use, I think you are probably right about Hasbro/MB not having the sole ownership of the name. My public domain guess wouldn't accurate then either because I believe public domain enters after 95 years (which is close now) but I could be wrong. Anyhow, point of all this... I look forward to every video you put up. Really well done, informative. Merry Christmas!
Another great video. Good to see a modern version that unambigiously better than the original I remember having Talking Battleships in the 1990's. It was one solid unit rather than two cases (obviously to have the computer component). The game did come with a bulky manual, most of which was pre-set positions for the ships you could select by a simple code (You could place manually, but this was IIRC pushed as a secondary option but didn't take too much effort. I seem to remember it supporting different rules variations as well (the only one that comes to mind was 1 shot per surviving ship each turn). Of coure you could just leave the computer component off and just play plain old battleship however you liked. As a tip, might be worth having a few seconds before the show starts with the music (and maybe a logo), and then turning it down as you talk, makes it easier to follow you.
That's viable. Someone else commemted that the modern pegs are easier to grasp. So I can understand adding any variation to the pegs like a plus/minus if it further enables accessibility.
In the UK the Milton Bradley game was advertised by two old men in a club ( I think) playing it and one eventually shouting, "you sank my battleship." Weird ad, but it must have worked 😊
@@justicierodelaliga I thought it was a decent popcorn flick. Fun fact, the board game was redesigned in 2008 replacing the grid with hexagons. When the movie came out in 2012, Hasbro reverted the game to its original grid design to match consumers' nostalgic expectations and boost sales. So the movie had a direct impact on the game's design. Pretty cool!
@@OldCrappyCouch Nice to know. I don´t think the original source material has to change in order to reflect a movie. That they want to make a Special Edition that reflects the movie? Fine. But don´t make the change to the original source. Doesn´t matter if the movie turns good or bad. As a movie is a blink in time. Meanwhile the original source preceeded it and its going to still be a thing after.
@@eldergeeks7301 That makes a lot of sense. Another viewer commented that the new pegs are easier to grasp as well. It's a nice touch to add for accessibility.
9:00 About your big fingers: if you're an adult then there should be a pocketknife on your jeans that you can use to pry them up. Grown ups get tools because we're chubby and slow. Thanks for the review; this is one product where I like the new look better. 9:30 Nevermind, those pegs are gross.
Thanks so much! Truth be told, as an Eagle Scout, I've always got a Victorinox Classic in my pocket. My dad and I have carried Classic SD's for years, and I dare say everyone should have one! Here's a link to the model I've got: amzn.to/4iTTfg2 The screwdriver has come in clutch may times when fixing these old games!
Dang dude! You’re pumping out this awesome content! Please don’t overwork yourself or run out of board games lol. Found your channel right after the Grape Escape video! I love board games and these types of videos!
@berjo516 Thanks so much! I thought I'd try talking about my love for antiques and vintage toys, and seems to be working out!
@@OldCrappyCouch You also seem to have hit upon a niche that really nobody else has, and that's comparison reviews for original or vintage and remade board games, see a lot of reviews for vintage ones, but I think your videos are the first I've seen where two versions are compared in depth, and that you also don't just automatically call the original one better is an even bigger plus.
I've now purchased a copy of Forbidden Bridge based on your review!
@@jhoch5 Thanks so much! Forbidden Bridge is really a treat. I hope you get many years of enjoyment out of it!
I’ve been watching for around a week or so now, exclusively your board game reviews/comparisons. I don’t own any board games but have been really enjoying your presentation style and attention to detail. Thank you for making these, you’re very entertaining and your content is really informative!
@@bigcheese6855 Thanks so much! These videos are a blast to make, I'm glad you're enjoying them!
I still have my Electronic Talking Battleship I received in 1989. Had to take it apart and clean the board about 20 years ago, but the last time I put batteries in, it still worked
Very pleased to see from your reviews that Hasbro actually seems to be caring about putting some good quality into these classic, even legendary, board games that they have taken ownership of
This is another game I have fond memories of playing as a kid, I had a version released by Milton Bradley in 1993 which had some cool extra details on the case, but also seemed to use a lot more cardboard in the game sets themselves, including a blue cardboard square to make the clear plastic look blue!
Good to see that Hasbro went back to the original look of the game for inspiration instead of the 90s one, which to my recollection also felt pretty fragile
@@jhoch5 The new game boards do feel very sturdy. Aside from some very minor details, Hasbro has done an excellent job with the modern update of the game. Battleship is one of their better updates for sure.
Battleship is an all time classic. Another naval combat game I loved was Torpedo Run. If you’ve never played I highly recommend it. Love the videos keep up the good work!
@@ericgray5497 Thanks! I'll have to take a look at Torpedo Run. I'm always up for something new!
Great comparison review! Hard to mess up a simple gameboard like Battleship. The new addition is a win for me, less required storage for it without the box and the pegs look easier to grab, not the original pegs were difficult to grab. Though it would have been nice if the Battleship logos were more noticeable and not the exact same coloring as the cover. Can't wait to see a Guess Who comparison.
@@spiritofvoljin8561 Guess Who is a good one!
The 2002 edition was my first copy of Battleship, and is my favorite. I saw the 2022 edition you reviewed in a Target, and I said, "NOPE". I didn't know about the plastic that you mentioned about changing color. Nice review!
@@Diamondfist1 Thanks so much!
Love your work, big fella.
Don't upload too much and burn out on us. =)
Amazing that you upload this right as I was feeling nostalgic for Battleship...
As much as i love the simple, classic design of the original, the new version feels very "tactical", like you're actually sat at a monitor aboard a battleship. Those pegs are incredible too. (But the fact you can't doublestack them like some early 2000's versions does create issues for some custom rulesets... but hey, nothing you can't work around!)
I'm surprised too that all the electronic versions still require you to tediously and manually punch in your ship locations and stuff like the old 1970's ones. I vaguely recall one that used a laser pen to automatically detect ship placements and hits, and would spray your opponent with water if you scored a hit.
I always felt the the electronic Battleship games did nothing but over complicate the game. The commercials were always really cool though! 😆
@@OldCrappyCouch The only thing that would make an electronic battleship set worth it, is if it automatically detected ship placements, and hits/misses. Manually needing to punch in ship positions makes it too much setup work for an otherwise quick boardgame. And maybe it could have a "VS computer" mode like some electronic chess boards.
Honestly, you've done an Amazing Job explaining the vintage Battleship to the New Battleship BUT I always will go with the old school Battleship; though mine were black boxes and NOT Red & Blue! Anyway Great Video 😃
I remember the black boxed Battleship games. They did look pretty slick!
I came across your game version comparison vids a few days ago. I really like your presentation style and have subscribed. There are good pairings looking at different versions of games such as Scoop!
Thanks, I'll have to check Scoop out!
Great job!
great video as usual! i'm very glad to have found your channel. if you're interested in suggestions, consider Space Hulk which famously has classic and modern versions. keep up the great work! your joy and enthusiasm are infectious and plain to see.
Thanks so much! I'll add Space Hulk to my list!
I remember a special needs student getting mad at me while playing Battlehip in the 4th grade because he thought I was cheating.
@@robertbrunello NO PEEKING! 😆
Classic board game. Grew up in the 1970s youngest of 4. So most of our family games were the 1960s versions sometimes 1950s for older games. Other than the box getting damaged the biggest problem with classic battleship is keeping track of the pegs and eventually the ships.
@@kirkandersen4474 All those little parts do run away from time to time!
I still have my 1998 version. Love it
Good job on opening the blue clamshell without spraying pegs all over!
A little finesse goes a long way!
I have that vintage battleship and a vintage hangman that's made the same way. The cool thing about the vintage hangman is it has Vincent price on the cover. Lol
Another classic and great hit. Thanks didn't even know they did an updated version.
Hangman is a great game, I should add that one to my review list!
Fun fact: MB released a version with sounds in 1977. It had many visual updates as well.
What I don't know, but I'm guessing here: did Battleship become public domain? Because I noticed many companies reproduce it (Noris, Clementoni to name a few) and they even use the ''Battleship'' name.
Battleship is an odd one because it was a pen and paper game sold throughout the 1930's. The pegboard concept was first created by Ed Hutchins and licensed to Milton Bradley in 1967, so that would have been what gave them a patent, not the name. The design of the game board might be the only thing Hasbro actually owns exclusive rights to. That would explain why they redesign the game every so often.
@@OldCrappyCouch ow I definitely didn't know that. But I can see the way it can be made easily on a sheet of paper or a template sheet That's a nice piece of Trivia there. My guess is as good as anyone's but considering the re-use, I think you are probably right about Hasbro/MB not having the sole ownership of the name. My public domain guess wouldn't accurate then either because I believe public domain enters after 95 years (which is close now) but I could be wrong. Anyhow, point of all this... I look forward to every video you put up. Really well done, informative. Merry Christmas!
Another great video. Good to see a modern version that unambigiously better than the original
I remember having Talking Battleships in the 1990's. It was one solid unit rather than two cases (obviously to have the computer component). The game did come with a bulky manual, most of which was pre-set positions for the ships you could select by a simple code (You could place manually, but this was IIRC pushed as a secondary option but didn't take too much effort. I seem to remember it supporting different rules variations as well (the only one that comes to mind was 1 shot per surviving ship each turn).
Of coure you could just leave the computer component off and just play plain old battleship however you liked.
As a tip, might be worth having a few seconds before the show starts with the music (and maybe a logo), and then turning it down as you talk, makes it easier to follow you.
@@127dot0dot0dot1 I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
How I would fix the pegs would be white pegs with a minus sign for a miss and red pegs with a cross or X for a hit.
That's viable. Someone else commemted that the modern pegs are easier to grasp. So I can understand adding any variation to the pegs like a plus/minus if it further enables accessibility.
In the UK the Milton Bradley game was advertised by two old men in a club ( I think) playing it and one eventually shouting, "you sank my battleship." Weird ad, but it must have worked 😊
It's a classic line!
Would've been cool if the pegs were shaped like missiles. Also I wonder if the "3D print" texture was supposed to look like brushed steel?
It's definitely a style choice to add that texture. I just think it didn't come out looking very good.
Just a recomendation: 13 13 Dead End Drive. Had it as a kid, and it was one mad cap game.
13 & 1313 Dead End Drive are on my list!
Bought the travel version a while back. One-piece plastic is a little annoying. I like the modern edition.
If it's the travel version I just looked up, I can see why it was annoying!
Did you like the movie? I did...though not remember anything about it.
@@justicierodelaliga I thought it was a decent popcorn flick. Fun fact, the board game was redesigned in 2008 replacing the grid with hexagons. When the movie came out in 2012, Hasbro reverted the game to its original grid design to match consumers' nostalgic expectations and boost sales. So the movie had a direct impact on the game's design. Pretty cool!
@@OldCrappyCouch Nice to know.
I don´t think the original source material has to change in order to reflect a movie. That they want to make a Special Edition that reflects the movie? Fine. But don´t make the change to the original source. Doesn´t matter if the movie turns good or bad. As a movie is a blink in time. Meanwhile the original source preceeded it and its going to still be a thing after.
pegs have different marks for colorblind players.
@@eldergeeks7301 That makes a lot of sense. Another viewer commented that the new pegs are easier to grasp as well. It's a nice touch to add for accessibility.
9:00 About your big fingers: if you're an adult then there should be a pocketknife on your jeans that you can use to pry them up. Grown ups get tools because we're chubby and slow. Thanks for the review; this is one product where I like the new look better. 9:30 Nevermind, those pegs are gross.
Thanks so much! Truth be told, as an Eagle Scout, I've always got a Victorinox Classic in my pocket. My dad and I have carried Classic SD's for years, and I dare say everyone should have one! Here's a link to the model I've got: amzn.to/4iTTfg2
The screwdriver has come in clutch may times when fixing these old games!