It is remarkable that Tricia Helfer was just a model when she was cast. She had no prior acting experience but was handed a role with quite a number of facets, to put it mildly. It is yet another wonderful surprise behind BSG.
"...but if we unbox her, she can reveal their identities to us." Tigh looks horrified. At first, we think he turns to look at Adama, but no. He's looking at Tory, who looks equally distressed. She quickly averts her eyes & looks down when Six glances her way. ALL the pieces of the puzzle are laid out. This show was sci-fi gold.
It was cinematic GOLD! Hell....Any visual medium involving actors. At it's lowest it's STILL a better creation than most things that have come along. Especially in the last 4 years.
I re-watch this show on my blu-rays once a year. It is the pinnacle of great television. I miss it and it's still modern and relevant and feels like it's happening right now. It doesn't feel dated at all.
@@theslicefactor4590 LOL! I think that was the reason why she was selected as one of the Final Five. She was someone that ANYBODY would've suspected to be a Cylon. And they were right. Caught me completely off-guard when it was originally revealed. 😅
@@maddan9086 Tory was actually too integrated into the action for that. They should have chosen someone in the fleet who had not played a close role to the others before.
We all like to think that we'd be forward-thinking enough to accept the rebels but without the TV show giving us perspectives from both sides I would likely advocate for them to be blown out of the airlock even after the Ressurection Hub was destroyed, _especially_ after the Hub was destroyed.
I agree. The leaders of the fleet would believe they are simply avoiding the inevitable of them attacking humanity again. The cylons had proven by this point that they don't stick to any one position for very long. They signed an armistice, then attacked the colonies again. Then they decided that was an error and left the fleet alone, and then attacked again and occupied them at New Caprica. I wouldn't trust them as far as I can blow them out an airlock.
@@ldkellandshaw The Cylons are psychopaths that don't value life _at all._ If you met a Cylon at a grocery store and you took the last bottle of coke they would snap your neck to get it.
@@ldkellandshaw Well technically the colonials broke the treaty first when Adama launched his stealth mission with Bulldog back then. But yeah the cylons never intended to keep the treaty, but that is hindsight. Militarily speaking destroying the Cylon rebels is dumb. It is the golden opportunity to save humanity if the undefeatable enemy starts killing itself. The longer the civil war goes on, the weaker the cylons overall get. Kill the rebels now and you are back to beeing hunted by the entire cylon fleed for eternity.
The odds that in all of humanity that was lost in the attack, NONE of the final five got whacked is rather slim… but I really enjoyed the series anyway.
@@Kataroku Tell me there was nothing flawed in the final episode of the series. When they all wandered off into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. Now, that doesn't make me hate the series, just laugh at the writers.
I re-watch it on my blu-rays once a year. It is the pinnacle of great television. I miss it and it's still modern and relevant and feels like it's happening right now. It doesn't feel dated at all.
@@IndySidhu88 they masked all these little imperfections of 2004's cgi and filming in general and wisely managed their budget. Thats why it looks so good even now.
Yeah, it looks like when the various other showrunners who cast her in later shows checked out BSG to assess her acting, they only watched the first few episodes of season 1 haha Later in the series she does get to show off her acting chops a lot more (like in this youtube clip), but looks like a lot of the industry never got a clue.
As someone who hasn't seen the show, only the clips on RUclips, can someone explain why if the Raiders sensed Anders and the others to be the Final Five, why did they not relay their identities to the rest of the Cylons?
While it sensed a Cylon presence in a Viper, it might not have thought to zoom in on the actual face, or to read the Callsigns on the side of the hull. (Also, it might not be intelligent/verbal enough to be able to give meaningful answers..)
@@UGNAvalon The thing I have trouble with is what the flash in Anders' eye meant. Because if it was simply a reaction to the presence of another Cylon, wouldn't that happen anytime two Cylons met? If so, any of the other Cylons on Galactica (namely Boomer or Athena) would have also sensed Anders and given him away. And if the eye flash indicated there was communication, then there's no telling just how much info the Raider would've gleaned from their interaction.
The Raiders, while sentient, aren't as intelligent as Humans or the humanoid Cylons, they're more like well-trained attack dogs, they can't openly communicate as that's not what they're designed to do. So basically they sensed one of their 'owners' as it were and thus refused to carry out the attack that would've almost certainly resulted in humanity's extinction then and there. It's possible the Cylons had ways of reviewing what the Raiders see after the battles and could have identified Anders but I think the lobotimization would also remove their memories, as it were, which is exactly what the Number Ones, aka the Cavils, wanted. They alone knew the identities of the Final Five but were dead-set on keeping that hidden from the others.
I don't think it was a Cylon "rebellion". And yes Tricia did mention "we are rebels". But I think she was inferring to the fact that since the Ones, Twos, and Fours, are less interested in the pursuit of God's word and are only interested in the pursuit of power. That the "rebel" Cylons may have discovered not just the Final Five, but in doing so, they reasoned they were becoming more human, and less machine. And with Sharon Valerii's birth of a successful child between a human and a Cylon, they realized they may be able to develop the same ability. And that the merging of human and Cylon is both necessary and inevitable to preserve their line of Cylons and their race as a whole. Which leads to one more branch of Cylons that were sadly never mentioned. And that is the non-lobotomized Centurions. They were given their freedom later. So it could almost be reasoned that "they" evolved into the Celestials mentioned in the original TOS. They were supposedly a branch of humanity that evolved into "angels" and were interested in helping humanity reach their level in time. So did they start this way? By being free to discover their own path? They were apparently never seen again. But with over 150 thousand years to evolve, who knows what they have become?
simple: he could just use them, get them executed on the spot, wreck the cylons, and give nothing in return. the rebels have as few reasons to think the colonials will fullfill their end of the bargain as the colonials do towards the Cylons.
@Sleeper They're our ancestors but we're not the same. Upon reaching (our) Earth 150000 years ago, the colonials spreaded through the globe and mixed with the natives (a humanoid species genetically compatible with them) along with Hera (colonial human / cylon hybrid). So we're a mix of colonial humans, earth native humans and a tiny bit of cylon.
It is remarkable that Tricia Helfer was just a model when she was cast. She had no prior acting experience but was handed a role with quite a number of facets, to put it mildly. It is yet another wonderful surprise behind BSG.
She banged hard to get the role and it paid off. Pity she didn't hit it big after the series ended. Real shame.
@@madquest8 Well that is certainly a backhanded compliment as I've ever heard one.
I think you guys are blinded by being fans. Her acting was nothing special one way or the other. And that is why she didn't do much after.
@@johnroscoe2406 It's not always just about just being a good actress. How many actors killed it in BSG but never got anything big afterwords?
@@thesenceofmorality But she didn't kill it in BSG.
I like how the camera focuses on Tigh and Tory a few times when the Final Five are mentioned. "Nothing to see here, move along...well...maybe not...."
"I'm not a Cylon!"😂
Tory was awful
@@rachelar but the Whigs weren't much better.
"...but if we unbox her, she can reveal their identities to us." Tigh looks horrified. At first, we think he turns to look at Adama, but no. He's looking at Tory, who looks equally distressed. She quickly averts her eyes & looks down when Six glances her way. ALL the pieces of the puzzle are laid out. This show was sci-fi gold.
It was cinematic GOLD! Hell....Any visual medium involving actors. At it's lowest it's STILL a better creation than most things that have come along. Especially in the last 4 years.
I re-watch this show on my blu-rays once a year. It is the pinnacle of great television. I miss it and it's still modern and relevant and feels like it's happening right now. It doesn't feel dated at all.
...and the outro music is a hint of Bear McCreary's arrangement of "All Along The Watchtower." Oh my.
Tigh and Tory seem to be very concerned for some reason!
Tory was a minor, boring character. She never should've been one of the Five.
@@theslicefactor4590 LOL! I think that was the reason why she was selected as one of the Final Five. She was someone that ANYBODY would've suspected to be a Cylon. And they were right. Caught me completely off-guard when it was originally revealed. 😅
I'd be concerned too if the camera was zoomed in that close to my face!
@@maddan9086 Tory was actually too integrated into the action for that. They should have chosen someone in the fleet who had not played a close role to the others before.
So these rebel cylons did the very same thing the originals did on Cobol: rose up against their oppressors.
*Kobol
Remember the Book of Pythia?
"All this has happened before, and all this will happen again".
We all like to think that we'd be forward-thinking enough to accept the rebels but without the TV show giving us perspectives from both sides I would likely advocate for them to be blown out of the airlock even after the Ressurection Hub was destroyed, _especially_ after the Hub was destroyed.
I agree. The leaders of the fleet would believe they are simply avoiding the inevitable of them attacking humanity again. The cylons had proven by this point that they don't stick to any one position for very long. They signed an armistice, then attacked the colonies again. Then they decided that was an error and left the fleet alone, and then attacked again and occupied them at New Caprica. I wouldn't trust them as far as I can blow them out an airlock.
@@ldkellandshaw The Cylons are psychopaths that don't value life _at all._
If you met a Cylon at a grocery store and you took the last bottle of coke they would snap your neck to get it.
@@ldkellandshaw But the admiral knew that his Valkyrie stealth mission technically breached the armistice and the cylons knew that.
@@ldkellandshaw ended up attacking again later!
@@ldkellandshaw Well technically the colonials broke the treaty first when Adama launched his stealth mission with Bulldog back then.
But yeah the cylons never intended to keep the treaty, but that is hindsight.
Militarily speaking destroying the Cylon rebels is dumb. It is the golden opportunity to save humanity if the undefeatable enemy starts killing itself. The longer the civil war goes on, the weaker the cylons overall get. Kill the rebels now and you are back to beeing hunted by the entire cylon fleed for eternity.
Tricia looks so much better without the bleached wig.
She really is an amazingly beautiful woman, even 16 years after the TV show.
Shes also bloody Tall
@@Archie2c She's tall for a lady, but not that tall, only 5'10".
@@Archie2c 1.79 m. I prefer her with blonde hair.
@@ValiantWrestling But if you look at her and James Callis (Baltar) together, she's actually a bit taller than he is.
The odds that in all of humanity that was lost in the attack, NONE of the final five got whacked is rather slim… but I really enjoyed the series anyway.
almost as if there was a divine intervention...
Picking out flaws in movies doesn't make them less enjoyable. It just means I can think at the same time.
@@jenshep1720 Forgive him, he probably fast-forwarded over all the dialogue to get to the "pew pew" scenes.
@@barryf7253 Not even a flaw. The entire plot was written around prophecy and revelations. History repeating endlessly.
@@Kataroku Tell me there was nothing flawed in the final episode of the series. When they all wandered off into the wilderness with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. Now, that doesn't make me hate the series, just laugh at the writers.
Natalie's cool. I always liked her
What a great show I miss this so much
Why? I mean, If you miss it, rewatch it- its here, in the Internet.
@@angeltensey No, it's in the ship!!!
@@mitchellmelkin4078 frakin' toaster
I re-watch it on my blu-rays once a year. It is the pinnacle of great television. I miss it and it's still modern and relevant and feels like it's happening right now. It doesn't feel dated at all.
@@IndySidhu88 they masked all these little imperfections of 2004's cgi and filming in general and wisely managed their budget. Thats why it looks so good even now.
She was basically typecasted due to her popularity when this series was on. All her other roles was basically “dangerous blond bombshell “
Even to a degree her Hallmark roles.
Yeah, it looks like when the various other showrunners who cast her in later shows checked out BSG to assess her acting, they only watched the first few episodes of season 1 haha
Later in the series she does get to show off her acting chops a lot more (like in this youtube clip), but looks like a lot of the industry never got a clue.
Hahaha i loved this! The big reveal!
As someone who hasn't seen the show, only the clips on RUclips, can someone explain why if the Raiders sensed Anders and the others to be the Final Five, why did they not relay their identities to the rest of the Cylons?
While it sensed a Cylon presence in a Viper, it might not have thought to zoom in on the actual face, or to read the Callsigns on the side of the hull. (Also, it might not be intelligent/verbal enough to be able to give meaningful answers..)
@@UGNAvalon The thing I have trouble with is what the flash in Anders' eye meant. Because if it was simply a reaction to the presence of another Cylon, wouldn't that happen anytime two Cylons met? If so, any of the other Cylons on Galactica (namely Boomer or Athena) would have also sensed Anders and given him away. And if the eye flash indicated there was communication, then there's no telling just how much info the Raider would've gleaned from their interaction.
I've never figured it out. I recommend you watch the pilot. It was inspired by 9/11.
They can detect cylons but not identify who or what it is....
The Raiders, while sentient, aren't as intelligent as Humans or the humanoid Cylons, they're more like well-trained attack dogs, they can't openly communicate as that's not what they're designed to do. So basically they sensed one of their 'owners' as it were and thus refused to carry out the attack that would've almost certainly resulted in humanity's extinction then and there.
It's possible the Cylons had ways of reviewing what the Raiders see after the battles and could have identified Anders but I think the lobotimization would also remove their memories, as it were, which is exactly what the Number Ones, aka the Cavils, wanted. They alone knew the identities of the Final Five but were dead-set on keeping that hidden from the others.
I don't think it was a Cylon "rebellion". And yes Tricia did mention "we are rebels". But I think she was inferring to the fact that since the Ones, Twos, and Fours, are less interested in the pursuit of God's word and are only interested in the pursuit of power. That the "rebel" Cylons may have discovered not just the Final Five, but in doing so, they reasoned they were becoming more human, and less machine. And with Sharon Valerii's birth of a successful child between a human and a Cylon, they realized they may be able to develop the same ability. And that the merging of human and Cylon is both necessary and inevitable to preserve their line of Cylons and their race as a whole.
Which leads to one more branch of Cylons that were sadly never mentioned. And that is the non-lobotomized Centurions. They were given their freedom later. So it could almost be reasoned that "they" evolved into the Celestials mentioned in the original TOS. They were supposedly a branch of humanity that evolved into "angels" and were interested in helping humanity reach their level in time. So did they start this way? By being free to discover their own path? They were apparently never seen again. But with over 150 thousand years to evolve, who knows what they have become?
I really liked Natalie and I still think her death was dumb and a waste.
Sometimes death is dumb and wasteful. Not all death has some greater meaning behind it
How did she die? I can't remember. What about Gina's death? She blew herself up with a nuke and revealed New Caprica to the Cylons.
@@asvarien IIRC Athena shoots her in the corridor of Galactica after Hera runs up to her.
@@Arkalius80 Nevertheless, she deserved better..
Why didn't she give Adama the coordinates?
simple: he could just use them, get them executed on the spot, wreck the cylons, and give nothing in return. the rebels have as few reasons to think the colonials will fullfill their end of the bargain as the colonials do towards the Cylons.
Keep the 6s, the 3s and the 8s. Get rid of the rest.
2:08
What if Triggerhappy guard was a bit too Triggerhappy 😂
One remake that outdid the original.
i can't remember the order of things; did the Five know who they were at this point?
Yes, Tigh, Anders, Tory, and Tyrol already knew they were Cylons, but I'm not sure if Ellen was resurrected yet at this point.
アメリカのドラマなのに、軍隊の規律がすごく保守的で、日本の自衛隊か旧日本軍みたいな印象受けます。(・ω・｀)
いくらアメリカっ言っても、軍隊は別物なのかな？(・ω・｀)
The humans are horrible folks in this universe also..
I think they are the same humans but some 150000 years before our time.
@Leo Polled Lee at the end of the series: Hey, let's do this again sometime!
@Sleeper They're our ancestors but we're not the same. Upon reaching (our) Earth 150000 years ago, the colonials spreaded through the globe and mixed with the natives (a humanoid species genetically compatible with them) along with Hera (colonial human / cylon hybrid). So we're a mix of colonial humans, earth native humans and a tiny bit of cylon.
@@moteroargentino7944 may as well add a bit of Stargate Ancient to that mix
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
100%
An Arabic proverb attributed to a prince who was betrayed and decapitated by his own subjects.
(meant as a joke quote)
only if you re an Idiot