I Couldn't Play FAST Until I Learned This….

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  • @ChaseMaddox
    @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +29

    What challenges do you have with playing fast?

    • @simon_patterson
      @simon_patterson 2 года назад +10

      Left-right hand coordination. I'll watch your video here with interest!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +8

      Haha classic metal problem....

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +3

      Thanks Simon! Let me know if you have any questions.

    • @davidbaise5137
      @davidbaise5137 2 года назад +3

      Hard to hear things at those tempos… so I leave space. Pat Metheny, for example, I don’t know how he hears at such tempos. John McLaughlin, yes, I hear, but Meth?

    • @sat1241
      @sat1241 2 года назад +2

      @@ChaseMaddox A simplified version of this that Josh Meader uses is last note of any lick use a hammer on or pull off

  • @rayb3000
    @rayb3000 2 года назад

    Thank you so much man, after 40 years of playing, now i know why i couldnt play faster.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Glad you found the video helpful! 🤘

  • @Tin_Fed
    @Tin_Fed 2 года назад +128

    Realising very early 30 years ago I couldn't pick fast, I evolved my playing into a mix of picking combined with hammer on and pull off's. To this day my limit is eighth notes at 220bpm. Picking every note feels foreign to me. I would love to be able to do this and play at 300 bpm but it would require going back to the start and I'm afraid to change. I think the ability to play fast opens up a freedom that I may never know. I noticed that you were an every note picker before you discoverd this techniqe, and I think that's why it only took you an hour to incorporate it. Thanks for this video. It was very informative.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +17

      I feel you! For the first 15 years I couldn’t play much beyond 240bpm as eighth notes either. I wasn’t picking everything and would compensate frequently with lots of hammer ons, pull offs, and slides. You can definitely incorporate this and get to 300bpm. I didn’t think I’d be able to for the longest time but this technique just clicked for me. Let me know how it goes 🤘

    • @kilroywahzhere2476
      @kilroywahzhere2476 2 года назад

      "Realizing". You should realize how to spell first

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +121

      @@kilroywahzhere2476 These kinds of comments aren’t appreciated on this channel. If you have something of value to add, please do. Also, “realising” is the preferred spelling for English-speaking world outside of the US.

    • @ericpatton5211
      @ericpatton5211 2 года назад +27

      @@ChaseMaddox Boxing troll ears got a follow from me.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +39

      Trolls will learn they don’t get a free pass on this channel :)

  • @philhellmuth2771
    @philhellmuth2771 2 года назад

    Great lesson! First video of yours that i have seen, you got a new sub

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks Phil! You’ll definitely like some of my earlier videos too 🤘

  • @maxvoloshin_nefariousaquarius
    @maxvoloshin_nefariousaquarius 2 года назад

    I also do a "hammer-on save"!

  • @billybarnett
    @billybarnett 2 года назад

    Use your pinky ,holdsworth/Martino

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Don’t use the pinky - Benson (mostly) 😄

    • @billybarnett
      @billybarnett 2 года назад

      Django trumps all of us !!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Hahaha good point!

  • @syfyguy7093
    @syfyguy7093 Год назад +1

    Playing fast does not aways translate to playing good.

  • @rostandbergerac6413
    @rostandbergerac6413 2 года назад +46

    Another great lesson. Economy of motion is the key playing quickly. This kind of attention is what pointed Frank Gamble to " sweep picking " It can help staving off injury as well.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! 🙏 Never had any sort of guitar-related injury or tension.

    • @5geezers
      @5geezers 2 года назад +8

      @@ChaseMaddox Just you wait young man! 🙄

    • @chrisegonmusic
      @chrisegonmusic Год назад

      @@5geezersmy problems started at around 38.

    • @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx
      @XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx Год назад

      ​@@chrisegonmusichow many years you been playing?

    • @chrisegonmusic
      @chrisegonmusic Год назад +1

      @@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx casually since I was fifteen but problems only started after about a year of serious practice.

  • @jezzatakla
    @jezzatakla 2 года назад +7

    Thanks so much for your time and inspiration. I'm 72 but determined to get to 300 before I kick the bucket.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      You can totally do it! 🤘I teach an older student and he’s made incredible progress in the few years we’ve worked together.

    • @jezzatakla
      @jezzatakla 2 года назад

      Thanks for your encouragement Dan. I've got champagne aspirations but lemonade hope!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      @@jezzatakla lol my name isn’t Dan 😄

    • @jezzatakla
      @jezzatakla 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox See I told you I was an idiot, but would you listen? Sorry Mr. Memes.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      @@jezzatakla finally got my name right! 😁

  • @bearthompson6506
    @bearthompson6506 2 года назад +10

    Nicely done! You are way above my “pay grade”, but I could easily follow your descriptions and demonstrations of the techniques. Thanks for posting!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! Glad it was helpful to you!

  • @dronai
    @dronai 2 года назад +12

    Thank you for this lesson ! I never really gave this any thought to be conscious of what direction to start or end picking. I can feel the improvement already on the first line.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      That’s what I like to hear! Thanks for checking it out 🤘

  • @PhpGtr
    @PhpGtr 2 года назад +3

    Why is there a cut every 3 words? I am astounded at how distracting it is, and difficult to follow. I feel like it's an unnecessary trend that a lot of YT channels are doing. It's awful.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      A bit of an exaggeration there, but the cuts significantly increase average view duration during the first 30 seconds which then drastically increases the reach of the video and RUclips showing it to more people.

    • @hotmetalslugs
      @hotmetalslugs 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Sorry man. It had the opposite effect. Good luck though.
      “The picking technique [CUT] I’ll be discussing [CUT]…”

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Lol sorry your attention span is so easily distracted

    • @PhpGtr
      @PhpGtr 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Well, quite the contrary. I was trying to say that your content is engaging enough that you don't need the artificial cuts. But if you are trying to appeal to those who can't sit through a basic intro, then I wouldn't know about that. Keep on keeping on I guess.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Glad you think so. My point is that having a high retention % for the first 30 seconds is important to get my video shown to more people, one way to do that is the cuts. It has nothing to do with appealing to people who can’t sit through an intro, but how RUclips works.

  • @Cocodeey
    @Cocodeey Год назад +3

    i keep flipflopping between my standard alternate picking technique and the technique showcased here when playing the first line. when using the technique showed in the video i can play each note much smoother and with better articulation, and i've practiced it for maybe an hour. it's kinda scary how immediately it improves my playing 😅

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Right?! That was basically my experience too.

  • @chrisyoung8062
    @chrisyoung8062 2 года назад +4

    Gypsy Jazz players use a picking technique that involves always using down strokes when starting a phrase on a new string. They also use the downtilt method which they refer to as a "rest stroke" because the pick rests on the string below. Double down strokes (three notes on a string and then a second consecutive downstroke when moving to the next string) is something you practice but it can be down quite fast. Using either that method or the one you're showing means careful planning of fingering to make the run as efficient as possible. Either way it's about what works for you.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for this comment! I agree with you that either method requires you to build your line vocabulary with your picking technique in mind.

    • @guillermor.r4831
      @guillermor.r4831 Год назад

      yes, in fact troy brought several gypsy jazz guitarists

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu Год назад

      Since I was 16 I always picked towards the next string economy picking,
      I didn't even know strict alternate picking was different until long after.

  • @gabimeredith1
    @gabimeredith1 2 года назад +5

    Awesome stuff, I came to this exact conclusion about Dw pickslanting + legato a few months ago and it really has made a huge impact. I’ve been trying to incorporate hybrid picking with this to reach larger interval jumps in lines, it’s a fun addition

  • @kylereece1979
    @kylereece1979 2 года назад +5

    In my constant case, the Pick clatters into the strings, or starts to slip from my fingers. No matter how much metronome, patience I use, I cannot get smoother, faster at alternate picking. Be it Jazz here, or even fun things I love to do like working out my fave classic video game tunes.😁

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Try this technique out and let me know how it goes!

    • @reuben7276
      @reuben7276 2 года назад

      What kind of game songs are you checking out? :)

    • @SRHMusic012
      @SRHMusic012 2 года назад +1

      You might check your grip. I found after many years I was not quite holding the pick in the 'traditional' grip, and moving to that helps a lot. Kind of subtle. The key for me is realizing the 1st finger joint should be exactly parallel to the side of the thumb. I used to have my finger pointing more down toward the tip. It makes a big difference with pick control, as this naturally locks the thumb joint to the 1st finger - less movement now.

    • @contrabajo5206
      @contrabajo5206 2 года назад

      Also you could try different kinds of pick, like ones that have specific kind of grips, but try as many as you can get to find the one that suits better for you and has the tone you are looking for, don't feel discouraged, if you try hard enough you will get there and your effort will be rewarded😎

    • @1Butcher
      @1Butcher 2 года назад

      Try some white fang picks.

  • @asherasator
    @asherasator 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's not bpm... that means nothing. It's how many notes per beat that counts.

  • @jacoblendzion2372
    @jacoblendzion2372 2 года назад +2

    I have been noodling for so many years and this is the first time I have taken a look at right hand technique. A very huge "aha" followed by a "duh" Either way thank you so much for taking the time to make this video!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks for checking out the channel Jacob! I had a similar feeling when I realized this picking technique and I wanted to help other guitarists learn it so they didn’t have to struggle with not being able to play fast for 15+ years like me 😅

  • @mikein60fpstwitch.tvaliber73
    @mikein60fpstwitch.tvaliber73 2 года назад +4

    Lovin the guitar, man the Artcore series has such a "bang for the buck" going on, play mine all the time, great action/sound for the price, the Jazz box size is the only thing keeping it from being my main player-for that i go to the Gretch Electro semi hollow,thin but still has that hollow sound that is so so sweet. Anyway, great vid -Cheers

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +2

      It totally does! This one is technically a 3/4 hollow body with a smaller size so it fits really nice compared to large arch tops. For me it’s the perfect balance between arch top and semi hollow. Thanks for the comment! 🤘

    • @mikein60fpstwitch.tvaliber73
      @mikein60fpstwitch.tvaliber73 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Ah nice, diden't know they have the smaller sizes/ bought mine like 7 years ago, was gona sell it, but like a few others in my collection-glad I dident! Ah k k just like the Gretsch /they come in smaller sizes also. Yep size is such a conundrum, the bigger it is usually the better sound, but then can get annoying after playing for long periods of time! ha Yep, great vid thanks for the lesson!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thank you! 🙏

  • @joebigane3988
    @joebigane3988 Год назад +2

    I play gypsy jazz! I love analyzing picking strategies and this video is great and I learned a lot of new stuff! I know this is not gypsy picking technique but I’m going to transfer a lot of the way your thinking into gypsy technique..such as the way you think about x notes per string. Thanks for the great content!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, Joe! Other guitarists have told me that it pairs well with gypsy jazz style, although I don't personally play much in that style 🤘

  • @adamfarkas7069
    @adamfarkas7069 Год назад +1

    Wonderful! Now please make a video on your left-hand technique! Especially descending in pitch… and maybe a few exercises for us Noobs to learn this slowly! Many thanks!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Thanks Adam! 🤘What would you want to know about my left-hand technique for descending? Also, I do have a course called 28 Days to Fast Jazz Lines Challenge that breaks down playing fast into 1 bite-sized idea to practice each day 👍

  • @johnborys7918
    @johnborys7918 Год назад

    one suggestion. When learning a phrase or pattern LEARN IT SHOWLY, you go right to 300 bpm... WRONG. ( learn a string at time)

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 2 года назад +4

    I discovered Troy Grady a while back, especially the episode with Andy Wood. With a few simple exercises (with the help of Ben Eller), I spent the last 2 months trying to finally nail something that has eluded me my entire life. It worked 💪. Magic. Free at last.
    Great content by the way. Thanks 😊
    I do upward pickslanting now too, and pretend I'm John McLaughlin. Fun for days.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      It's a great feeling for sure! I pretend I'm Benson so I get the vibe.

    • @winstonsmith8240
      @winstonsmith8240 2 года назад

      I save him for downward pickslanting. 🙂
      Loving your content by the way. Troy is great but it's all shred stuff mostly ( no disrespect) so it's great to see this in a jazz context. You deserve many more subs. Thank-you.

  • @6345788
    @6345788 7 месяцев назад

    Pat Martino was a master of the jazz language. Charlie Parkers sax lines are fabulous to first transcribe then play on any instrument.
    I think it's more important to analyze just what so are "saying" in a line...Is it within the context of the harmony, does it rise and fall, etc? Technical facility is extremely important. Playing fast, for many people, causes them to lose track of what they are trying to say, musically.
    Transcribing great artists will help with learning the language and executing the ideas by applying the techniques which allowed them to play those lines.
    I am interested how you would apply this technique to a transcribed solo of let's say Martino, McLaughlin, or another guitarist who's technique is different to execute the lines they play...

  • @brucechavez9535
    @brucechavez9535 2 года назад +1

    Guitar playing is not about playing fast...it is all about good melody, musicality and playing with emotions musically. Just look at 95 % of legendary guitarist such as Jimi Hendrix, David Gilmour, George Harrison, SRV, Bryan May, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Richie Blackmore, Carlos Santana, Neal Schon, and countless other great guitarist.
    They don't play fast, they play with feel and some good, quality melodic notes, and that's why they become greats and iconic....enough said. 🤔😃😎

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      It’s not all about playing fast, but basically all of the guitarist you named could also play fast when needed.

    • @nandarajaram7740
      @nandarajaram7740 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Not at 200bpm or more they didn’t.Unless perhaps your bpm are 8’s not 4’s.

    • @nandarajaram7740
      @nandarajaram7740 2 года назад

      Melodic lines?Not something shredders really bother with.And of course ,they wont be remembered

  • @ZgemboBeterovic
    @ZgemboBeterovic 2 года назад

    I wonder how to play Technical Difficulties by Paul Gilbert using this approach?

  • @Jazzguitarguy
    @Jazzguitarguy 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video!!! Love this technique, though how would I play a longer descending arpeggio with one note per string on several strings? For example, Eb major7 in 3rd position, descending. Thanks!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thank you! 🤘The first thing is I wouldn’t generally be playing a long descending arpeggio with one note per string across more than 4 strings. If you do want to then the approach becomes consecutive down sweeps for descending or consecutive up sweeps for ascending. If the tempo isn’t too fast you could alternate pick instead.

    • @Jazzguitarguy
      @Jazzguitarguy 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox thanks!!

  • @RantzBizGroup
    @RantzBizGroup 2 года назад +2

    Great video, my problem is matching left hand finger placement with a faster tempo arrangements... Any drills that can assist me on that issue would be very helpful!!! Thanks in advance!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      I don’t have specific drills for that but it is something Dan Wilson discusses in his upcoming course with us! Check out the waiting list for it below 🤘

  • @nebstaism
    @nebstaism 2 года назад +1

    300bpm is pretty much 75bpm

  • @JustAGuitarPlayer
    @JustAGuitarPlayer 2 года назад +2

    I was surprised to see that your first 2 examples show upstrokes on downbeats and downstrokes on upbeats. I’d find that the most challenging part to overcome as I’ve been playing 46 years doing the opposite (downstrokes on downbeats and upstrokes on upbeats). But yes the Troy Grady terminology and tips have certainly helped me increase my speed as well as it caused me to observe which pick slanting direction I was using and made me more conscious of which one would give me the best results when it comes to speed and cleanliness of any given line in any style. Anyway thanks for your video, well done and great info.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Great observation! What’s interesting is that in my analysis of many many Benson fast lines he tends to *almost* always start with an up pick on phrases that start on the down beat and vice versa. Took a little time to get used to but once I internalized the feel of the lines it was easier.

    • @GLeD101
      @GLeD101 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox At least in my neck of the woods, it seems like it’s gospel to down stroke on the beat and up stroke on the and. The argument being that it affects your time feel and “swing” if you’re not consistent with your picking. Did you ever subscribe to this? Do you still do this at slower tempos? Overall do you think there are any compromises to picking in a more economical style vs. straight alternate picking based on the rhythmic placement of the phrase?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      @@GLeD101 I did subscribe to this for a long time and I think it was a big factor in me not being able to play the lines I was hearing. In my understanding now, the concept of downstrokes on downbeats works only up until a certain speed. When it's a slower tempo the added distance your pick has to travel in that method isn't a big deal, but as the lines get faster you run into issues. I don't pick direction plays an important role in someone's time feel and swing feel, based on the fact that this picking style is played by guitarists like George Benson who I would consider one of the most swinging guitarists. Switching to that technique also didn't seem to affect my swing or time feel. Your time feel is more so affected by where you hear the next beat in your mind and not the physical element. Something I can discuss more in video!

  • @marklane870
    @marklane870 2 года назад +2

    Sweep picking is the secret...no need to plan even or odd numbers

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Works a lot of the time but not always for the articulation and accents on certain jazz lines

    • @marklane870
      @marklane870 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox example?

  • @JazzStrat781
    @JazzStrat781 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video and content as always 👍🎸 thanks so much for all the work involved in putting out these videos

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! Happy to do it as long as you all are getting good value out of them and I can share what I’ve learned. Cheers 🤘

  • @cbadham
    @cbadham 2 года назад +1

    Extremely helpful. I've been through all of Troy Grady's vids and yours summed it up nicely. Also, what's your signal chain? Amp? Additional pedals? I also have an Ibanez Artcore custom and love it.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thank you Chad! I'm dropping a video this week that talks about all of the equipment I use including my amp, signal chain, pedals, video gear, etc. so stay tuned! 🤘

  • @michaelrichardson2359
    @michaelrichardson2359 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Chase. Thank you for all your informative videos. I always give a thumbs up and subscribe. QUESTION: how would you apply this picking technique video to your #14 (Benson’ smooth Bebop) short video? Would you start that lick with a “DU” or “UD” or “DD”?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  11 месяцев назад +1

      Appreciate the support, Michael! I just went back to look, and you'd definitely start "DU" because there are an even number of notes on that string, so you want to do DUDU on the 2nd string to end with that upstroke. Hope that helps! 👍

  • @thebigleone1066
    @thebigleone1066 7 месяцев назад

    Do you ever play rock or rock-blues? I watched Matteo Mancuso play jazz, but my gawd, he can rock it too. I really like your videos, am subscribed and have watched most of them. Really good stuff.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  7 месяцев назад

      I probably gig mostly on blues, pop-funk, and then jazz. Glad you dig the videos! 🤘

  • @dmueller78
    @dmueller78 2 года назад +1

    Probably worth noting that most "speed pickers" would clock what you're playing there at 150bpm but since your metronome is setup to click in an eighth note pattern instead of quarter notes, it is doubled in speed. If you were actually playing 4 notes per click, that would then be considered speed picking 16th notes at 300bpm in the speed picking athleticism circles. I'm only pointing this out because of your video thumbnail stating "How to play at 300+ bpm", and most hard-core speed pickers posting "...300bpm..." on RUclips are working on playing a barrage of twice as many notes in the same amount of time as what you're doing here. Any beginners watching this should at least be aware of the difference before they go bragging to their peers about speed picking at 300bpm. Still a great lesson summarizing some of Troy Grady's work, and nice lines!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Dave! Most jazz musicians if counting off a tune at 300bpm would mean the tempo I’m playing. That’s what I’m referring to, not however speed pickers count, but I appreciate you pointing out the distinction 🤘

    • @dmueller78
      @dmueller78 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox That's good to know as well and thanks for clarifying! It's crazy to hear someone from the metal speed picking community do 300bpm of 4 pick strokes to a click. It's rare, but I do come across them sometimes. In the bluegrass community it is usually measured as I described and 150bpm is considered "getting up there" in terms of speed, but many virtuoso bluegrass pickers might clock somewhere closer to what would be 340-360bpm in your metronome setup or 170-180bpm in mine. Troy Grady has gotten into bluegrass lately so wondering if you might have seen any of that. Cheers!

  • @tomcarmody5471
    @tomcarmody5471 11 месяцев назад

    Really dumb question, when you set the metronome at 301 bpm, are you playing 602 notes per minute? I assume you are playing 8 notes per measure over 4 beats per measure. I am 62 and have worked pretty hard on getting faster but whatever I do, I can't get faster than about 350 notes per minute(picking every note). Any old guys out there that have learned to pick as fast as Chase with lots of practice? I do see this strategy helping but I can't see myself ever getting to his speed. Also, I started playing about 4 years ago so I was already old when I started.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  11 месяцев назад

      I don't really think about it like that, but I suppose if I was playing 8th notes for a minute straight then it would be 602 notes per minute. 4 years isn't that long in playing an instrument so I'd give yourself some time. I help a lot of older guys with jazz guitar in my community, Chase's Guitar Academy, if you're interested in going more in-depth.

  • @rickhandel336
    @rickhandel336 Год назад

    I recently bought the 60 master lines book and will start working through it. I don't understand example #4 about single strings in this video. In the 2nd measure, how does the b on the & of 1 not violate the rule? I think you said on the video to stay within the strings, but I don't understand how that's possible. Once you pick the note, you would be "trapped." What am I missing? Thanks!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Thanks for the question, Rick! When you have only note per string and are not going to use a down sweep or up sweep, then you alternate pick. The way you avoid getting the pick trapped is by slightly rotating your wrist after the downpick so you can be set up for the next up pick.

  • @bluarcher5941
    @bluarcher5941 Год назад +1

    this really looks like something that I can take some time with, see it through and reap some results. Thanks for posting.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Try it out, would love to hear how it goes for you 🤘

  • @joepalooka2145
    @joepalooka2145 2 года назад

    Very interesting, but there's another aspect of playing fast that you don't mention. That is, playing live with other musicians. You'll never achieve full mastery until you're in a real-time situation. You'll never be as incredibly fast as Jimmy Bryant and Speedy West unless you are challenged to do it for real. If any guitar player in the world today---- jazz or any other genre--- can play as fast as Jimmy and Speedy on tunes like "Frettin' Fingers" and "Stratosphere Boogie"----- then you can really say "I can now play fast!"

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Yes the whole context here is playing fast improvised lines, which you would be doing live with other musicians. The two guitarists you mention are playing in a different context as mostly country lines that are already worked out or as short solo breaks. In my opinion it doesn’t really come close in difficulty to the continuously fast, improvised lines of guys like Benson or Joe Pass.

  • @ThinkingMan482
    @ThinkingMan482 6 месяцев назад

    I'm wondering what sort of pick you use and how you hold it. Do you use a softer pick and let the pick bend, or do you use a stiffer pick and let it move in your fingers or perhaps not let it move at all? It seems like if the pick is slanted downward then the upstrokes might be difficult.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  6 месяцев назад

      I use a Fender Heavy pick now and have used a Fender Medium with this technique in the past. Both work 👍

  • @anthonywilliams6764
    @anthonywilliams6764 2 года назад

    If you slow down what you are playing, it sounds so corny and all it seems that you are saying is, " I can play corny stuff at 300bpm. " BIG DEAL ! Why not show us how to play interesting lines, that are original, and develop into grown up music.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Aww do you play grown up music?

  • @martinmarini9848
    @martinmarini9848 Год назад

    I'm interested, but I bought one of Peter Farrell/Benson books which includes his "secret" picking technique. In fact it all relies on systematically changing strings on a down stroke, which in turn induces a even number of note per string, and also playing some on the beat notes on a upstroke.
    I refuse to have my phrases dictated by such limitations, and having to change all my usual fingerings to fit these rules.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      I understand why you might think that it’s limiting, but in reality it’s not because there are many ways to adjust and NOT have to play an even number of notes per string. Too much to explain here, but it’s a totally freeing style not limiting. Ask yourself, does Benson sound limited in his approach?

  • @kilroywashere1828
    @kilroywashere1828 2 года назад

    Why exactly does one need to play at 300 bpm
    .. fastest music I know of is slayer at 260 bpm...sorry I'm not trying to revive speed metal. Its a dead genre

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Go listen to Cherokee at 300bpm

  • @alfredmuller6626
    @alfredmuller6626 2 года назад

    I don't quite understand the DU technique in example No. 4. E. g. on the 1 "and" and the 2 of bar 2 there's the transition between a b and a g from the 3rd to the 4th string and I just don't get how I can play this in a DU-manner because After the pick-slant the pick is resting on the 2nd string and it seems really hard to get to the 4th string that fast. Can you help me?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Good question. The technique there for when you have single notes on different strings relies on alternate picking and wrist rotation. Once you pick the B note down, immediately rotate your wrist as if you’re turning a key in a door, so that the pick does not rest on the second string. Then you can easily access the G with an up pick. Hope that helps 🤘

  • @orangeiceice12
    @orangeiceice12 2 года назад +1

    I'm trying to figure out how to play fast fingerstyle. I've seen classical players do a tremolo thing with all four fingers. I might try that out

  • @SRHMusic012
    @SRHMusic012 2 года назад +1

    Nice work. It's really helpful to have real, melodic lines for this kind of practice. I'm working my way through a lot of this, so great timing. By the way, the rock/shred folks refer to quarter note bpm for 16th notes (e.g. 150bpm is 10 notes per second), and apparently the jazz folks refer to quarter note bpm for 8th notes (300bpm is 10 notes per second). Could you expand more on your comment that 'we don't' use the same pick stroke on upstrokes on adjacent strings 'in this style'? Economy picking would seem to be a simpler approach than inside alternate picking as in the descending portion of example 4? At 10:11 you pretty much have to rotate to an upward pick slant anyway to avoid being buried between strings 3 and 2 after the B note (start of bar 2, Ex.4). Seems like it's a tradeoff worth exploring, as time is lost in the wrist rotation anyway. Thanks

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for your comment! I’ll explore some of the things you bring up 🤘

  • @rickjensen2717
    @rickjensen2717 2 года назад +1

    Awesome - also worth looking at Al DiMeola and McLaughlin picking technique may help some folks.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Absolutely! Thanks for the comment!

  • @ericrojasvelez8891
    @ericrojasvelez8891 2 года назад

    Everybody play with a diffrent hand position...is cool...but it wont help if I place my hands diffrent

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Maybe so. But the approach of understanding your technique in detail can still be applied to whatever picking style you use.

  • @krispynachos9980
    @krispynachos9980 2 года назад

    Clickbait is real in this vid. 300 bpm but its 8th notes. Here I am thinking 300 bpm 16th notes...

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Playing at 300bpm in a jazz context means 8th notes, nothing “clickbait” about it.

  • @rickpuigmusic
    @rickpuigmusic Год назад

    How would this work for scales? It'd be nice to see this technique compared to the mortals down up down up taught when learning this.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Watch this video: I Couldn't Solo with Scales Until I Learned THIS....
      ruclips.net/video/3Xemo5FzFqs/видео.html

  • @rreditor100
    @rreditor100 2 года назад

    Good vid, but would have liked to hear about how to work on getting your LEFT hand up to 300 bpm. Thanks.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      In my experience, 95% of the issues come from bad right hand mechanics. The left hand mechanics basically come down to moving the fingers as efficiently as possible with as little unnecessary movement as possible.

  • @pascalsolal
    @pascalsolal 2 года назад

    Playing fast is not a problem. Anybody can play fast. But not everybody has something interesting to say.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      This just isn’t accurate. Read all the other comments from people who struggle with playing fast.

  • @jameseager3245
    @jameseager3245 Год назад

    Chase, how would you describe the motion of your wrist, forearm, elbow when alternate picking at these tempos?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      My wrist moves in the same way it would if I was moving a tea bag up and down in hot water, basically in line with my forearm. The forearm can move, depends on how fast the tempo actually is and what specific technique I’m playing at that tempo.

  • @seanmullen6688
    @seanmullen6688 2 года назад +5

    Downwards pick slant , upstroke escape… upward pick slant downstroke escape … 2way pick slanting … cross picking double escape … Troy Grady has given us a framework for building licks in all genres …

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      He really did an amazing thing by categorizing everything like that. My goal for this channel is to have that same level of detail and explanation for all the concepts relating to jazz guitar playing and more.

  • @philsteffen7876
    @philsteffen7876 2 года назад +1

    I don't see a PDF

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      It’s in the description of the video. Here’s the link: www.jazzmemes.org/i-couldnt-play-fast-until-i-learned-this

  • @mikepeterson443
    @mikepeterson443 2 года назад

    So they say playing slow is more soulful. That's probably over-hyped. There's a need for speed!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Depends on the context! But if you can’t play fast when it would be appropriate, that’s a problem 🤘

  • @nicolosmoffitt
    @nicolosmoffitt Год назад

    I know George uses the rest stroke, I’m wondering how that comes into play with your exercises? Thanks

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Usually when the line is ascending and you go from one string to the next, you’ll have consecutive down strokes that create a rest stroke.

  • @bluenotesoul
    @bluenotesoul 2 года назад

    Troy Grady is the gospel truth. Bring back articulation in jazz guitar!!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Haha he sure is! I’m with you 🤘

  • @shimobe3917
    @shimobe3917 Год назад

    Great Lesson
    May I know what guitar are you using
    The red finish looks really nice

  • @headkickko609
    @headkickko609 2 года назад

    I just took some shrooms and you are kinda leaning your head out of the video frame and back in it's kinda funny!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      I’m sure a lot of things are funny on shrooms 😆

  • @morkus26
    @morkus26 2 года назад +1

    This video (George Benson Picking Part 1 Angle Rest & Anchor ruclips.net/video/KqSigkwNnck/видео.html) demonstrates the backward picking, this produces the best sound for Jazz; I'm almost certain Martino, Frisell, Jim Hall, Metheny etc play this way even though their hands look a little different as they each have their way of holding the pick. Benson's is the most exaggerated. At the start of your video you demonstrate more of a traditional 'pick slant' like the shred guys, is that correct?
    Since watching this video I have been playing through the Barry Harris descending half-step rules incorporating a mix of the two - the backward picking with the 'end on an upstroke rule'. This seems to be the best of both, and may as well just be called 'Benson picking' which I take to mean economy picking but with the 'backwards' pick angle for the warmer tone, which you personally compensate for by using the round/larger end of the pick.
    What I'm asking is that you try the techniques in this video but with the backward picking rather than the shred pick angle that you use. I was thrown by you calling this 'Benson picking' because that incorporates the backward picking rather than pick angling ala Troy Grady. Apologies if this is autistic but I want to be specific.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Thanks again for your comment. I think it adds a lot to the discussion and hopefully others will check these other options out too. I’d say you’re correct that I’m using more of the traditional pick slant and not as much backwards picking. I tried it out for a bit today, and the only way I could get it to flow is switching to using the pointed end of the pick instead of the rounded edge like I’m used to now. I also think you’re right that the usual downside of not backwards picking would be a thinner tone, but I don’t find I’m having that issue since I use the rounded pick edge.

    • @morkus26
      @morkus26 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Ok interesting, so downward pick slanting but with the round edge to compensate for the thinner sound. Glad you made this video as it's good to rehash and reevaluate these things.
      Also, try out a Pro-Plec 351 D'Andrea 1.5mm pick if you can, they are like no pick I've used before, totally different tone, incredibly warm. Jonathan Kreisberg uses them and I'm convinced it's one of the key elements of his tone. It's because of these that I don't do the 'round end of a big pick'. I've tried and often compare them and the Pro Plec wins out everytime in tone.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      @@morkus26 Thanks for the good discussion! I’ll check out the pick you suggest 👌

  • @jesussaddle
    @jesussaddle 2 года назад +1

    Subscribed. I love jazz players on youtube! You can also use upward pick slanting. Really the 2 are both equally useful. (given that you probably also don't want the string attack to be parallel, but closer to 45 degrees.) The direction of the pick slant should change depending on how you want to cross to the next string. For instance, you can have upward pick slanting (the top of the pick slanted upward), end on a down stroke, and move to any thinner (presumably nearby) string - since this is the direction (down) that you're already moving it becomes quick and effortless, and your slant is helping you escape. Or you can have downward pick slanting and end on an upstroke, and move to any fatter string (or stay on the same string). 2 way pick slanting is a real challenge. The trick is gaining control of both slanting directions so that you don't need to think about it. The one way pick slant is like the training wheels to get used to the patterns formed with that slant. But, if you have downward pick slanting and end on an upstroke, and try to move to a skinnier string, the direction of movement of the pick at that moment is opposite of the string you want, so this is kind of equally slowing to one's speed, as having to fight with being trapped by a string (having to quickly adjust the wrist to somehow hop over the string in a non-routine way). I found I needed to slant for ESCAPE, but also to slant in order to OPTIMIZE DIRECTION to be conducive to speed when changing strings. This can result in a very slight pick slant, to optimize for both needs. (When the slant is conducive to direction to the next string, there's less distance to hop since the pendulum is closer to the target string one is changing to). The ideal is to use pick slanting for both these problems. In the case of helping with direction, with the top of the pick slanted downward, one is closer to the next thinner string. With the top of the pick slanted upward, one is closer to the next lower string. (Just my 2 cents of trying to work this out according to how my own natural evolution was from upward slanter to 2-way slanter). For example, a really difficult line to play quickly is to start on the A string, play 2 notes beginning with a down stroke, and cross to the D string and play 2 more notes, etc. In this pattern there is an upstroke just before crossing to the D string. (Opposite to the direction of the D string). You'll find that if you change to a downward pick slant at the moment of that upstroke, while at the same time using that changing slant of the fingers/wrist to bring your hand over the D string, then this should be better than starting with the downward pick slant. In other words start with a roughly unslanted pick, and the slant change before the D string works in your favor and becomes part of the movement to the D string. A good exercise is actually to play that 2 note per string riff, but periodically drop one note to change the picking pattern. The goal is to change the slant appropriately. Down up going to thinner strings is best played with the first note on the string relatively less slanted, and the 2nd note downward slanted at the last moment to help towards bringing the hand over the next string. (both an escape and a slanting motion bringing one to the next thinner string.) Conversely, doing a 2-note per string pattern going from fatter to skinnier strings, starting on an upstroke, will be easy for the upward pick slanter (like me). Because the direction of motion of each pick upon the string changes is in the direction of the string change, this optimizes for pick escape, and doesn't require the optimization for direction. But if you are coming back from thinner to thicker strings, and haven't skipped any notes, (still up-down up-down per each string, then crossing to a fatter string) now if you keep the upward pick slant you BOTH bury yourself between the last and next string, AND your picking direction is contrary to the direction of the next string. And if you change to full on downward pick slanting you're able to correctly escape, but if you slant to suddenly your wrist is moving contrary to the direction of the next string. So the best way is to learn to sense both aspects, and not get carried away with over slanting, but rather to use the right amount of very slight changes in slant and wrist motion to optimize for both escape and momentum/direction.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thank you for the thoughtful comment! 🤘

    • @jesussaddle
      @jesussaddle 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox I started out innocently but got way too deep there - but thank you for excusing my indulgence. I hope your channel grows quickly and you get to work on a lot of content you enjoy.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      @@jesussaddle 🙏🙏

  • @illwill9396
    @illwill9396 2 года назад

    My question is does it matter if I start with an up stroke on pattern 1??? It seems more economical.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      In many cases when the line ascends you can start with either an up or downstroke 👍

  • @chrispage2782
    @chrispage2782 2 года назад

    So, would it be fair to sum up this video by saying the two tips for faster playing would be, 1) downward pick slanting, and 2) closely scrutinizing the up/down sequence of the lines you’re playing and sticking to that formula?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      Yes I think those are the main two takeaways. I’d just add that there are some exception where this picking is not used, like doing consecutive up sweeps on a maj7 arpeggio.

    • @chrispage2782
      @chrispage2782 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox Great vid, and I think you’ve given a lot of food for thought. I’ve tried the down slant picking, with limited success; I’ve been pretty much a “perpendicular picker” my whole life…but then again, so is JMcL and Pat Martino, to name a few. Benson, def a down slanter. But as far as the other part about the up/down alternation, it seems to me, one would need to work out and practice these kinds of things endlessly, in addition to using it with every other kind of scale or arpeggio one could imagine-not just the pentatonics in your vid. I can understand how this might improve efficiency of speed, but the amount of practice needed for such a thing is enormous; at least to try to “cover all bases,” which is what I think you might be after. And that is almost completely impractical, because when you hit the “stand” all that stuff goes right out the window in favor of playing something that either makes sense or fits in with the rest of what’s going on. I believe this to be a great discipline, but, as I say, in the context of real playing, and being on the spot, it seems to me limited. One would need to have this stuff SO intellectually “locked in,” that the actually thought process is automatic. hope I’m explaining that clearly enough….but all your vids bring up really interesting ideas to ponder…very intriguing….

  • @matforsbon
    @matforsbon 2 года назад +1

    Awesome, thanks for spending time and resources to help other guitar players.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks Tony, I appreciate your comment! 🙏

  • @audunnguyen7859
    @audunnguyen7859 9 месяцев назад

    bro is really giving away the middle finger mid play 😂😂

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  9 месяцев назад

      🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️ 😂

  • @spiderfan1974
    @spiderfan1974 2 года назад

    Really choke up on that pick don't let a lot of it show out of the end of your finger and thumb. Then there is nothing to get trapped between the strings. Learn efficiency picking simply use whatever pick stroke you need not just down up down up etc... . You might pick up up down up for that line. Single notes sound the same up picked down picked or alternate picked. The way the chords sound matter which direction they are picked not single notes.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      In the second camera angle I'm showing more pick than I normally would play with so people can see how the pick angle is changing.

    • @spiderfan1974
      @spiderfan1974 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox yes but you said and showed the pick gets stuck between strings affecting speed. Hence the getting back into the down stroke position. Not the way I hold my pick it's nowhere near the strings to little of the pick shows at any given time. It was less a comment for you and more for people that believe silly things. Here is an example some people think a down stroked low open E sounds better than an upstroked low open E. They don't it's the same note I've been told if you don't down pick every note in any metallica song it's not as punchy and tight. Wrong again they just are not playing in time with the beat. Sure if you up stroke the power chords in Master of Pupoets something sounds off. The E pedal going on through most of the song it's one note doesn't matter which way you pick it it's an E note.

  • @loumat62
    @loumat62 2 года назад

    and your pick if I may abuse your time? Thank you very much

  • @KealohaHarrison
    @KealohaHarrison 2 года назад +5

    This video couldn’t have come at a more opportune time! I’ve been getting into the band Yes and Steve Howe’s playing has me relistening to Django Reinhardt, Charlie Christian, Barney Kessel, and so many other jazz guitar legends. Can’t wait to see how this improves my playing after like 15 years of being stuck in a blues, rock and, folk guitar mindset!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +2

      Awesome! I’m excited for you to start on this jazz guitar journey 🤘

    • @imannonymous7707
      @imannonymous7707 2 года назад +2

      All great players

  • @MarkRhodesSongs
    @MarkRhodesSongs 2 года назад

    Do you always play with the shoulder of the pick rather than the point? (Not crucial, I'm just curious about that.) Good lesson! Hope I get the same result! ;o)

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      I have for the last few years or so. I found I liked the tone and feel I was getting from the pick more that way, but it's very much a personal thing and wouldn't affect the mechanics of the picking discussed here much.

    • @MarkRhodesSongs
      @MarkRhodesSongs 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox I have tried that way before. I like the tone too. Also, the pick seems to "turn around" less when I hold it that way. But NOW I realize I may have been using inefficient mechanics and THAT was the problem, not my pick grip itself. Live and learn. ;o)

  • @wdfusroy8463
    @wdfusroy8463 Год назад

    This video is great for teaching your up/down picking pattern, which is actually very much like the old "rest stroke" in classical guitar picking. But the hard part for me is getting my left hand to finger anywhere near as fast as my right hand can pick. What can I do for that problem? Thanks! And keep up the great videos!!

  • @gumdocga
    @gumdocga 2 года назад +1

    I own the same guitar. It’s one of my lowest cost guitars and I love it!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад +1

      It’s amazing! Haven’t felt the need to change it ever for my jazz playing.

    • @lauribagge
      @lauribagge 5 месяцев назад

      What is the model?

  • @israelsantos-nt6xt
    @israelsantos-nt6xt 2 года назад

    anybody here has this BT ou something to use ... thanks teaher

  • @tomcoryell
    @tomcoryell 2 года назад +5

    I’m 65 and am a fairly proficient guitarist, but speedy picking like what you are doing has always eluded me and it’s not for lack of trying. I will try this and let you know if it makes a difference. Thanks for the inspiration!

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      I hope so! Please let me know how it goes for you 🤘

    • @armanj4514
      @armanj4514 2 года назад

      let me know too please!

  • @Prometheus4096
    @Prometheus4096 2 года назад

    So either playing triplets or 16th notes will always be required. How exactly does one play that at 300 bpm?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Your assumption is wrong. In the context of jazz at that tempo, triplets and sixteenth notes would be unusually fast, although can happen as a quick flurry. Most of the time those rhythms would be used at a slower tempo.

    • @Prometheus4096
      @Prometheus4096 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox I'd say that for interesting rhythms you need at least be able to play eight note triplets. What piece is at 300 bpm?

  • @kevinberthoud9347
    @kevinberthoud9347 Год назад

    Thx Chase, very useful practical explanation of how to use the material Troy's team presents.

  • @craigparker1146
    @craigparker1146 Год назад

    Haven't finished the video yet, but what are the chances of doing this without a pick?
    Nice guitar. I have the sunburst AF-75, and it's probably my favorite ever (I'm almost 50)

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      You wouldn’t use this technique without a pick. Many people play fast without a pick but your lines and ideas have to be played differently.

    • @craigparker1146
      @craigparker1146 Год назад

      @@ChaseMaddox I dropped too many early on (real pain to get them back out through an F-hole) and switched to bass in the 90s anyway. Getting back into it, and am used to pizz. Have you got any lessons about it, or know of some good ones? Ir give them privately?

    • @craigparker1146
      @craigparker1146 Год назад

      Scratch that last question - just found your site.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      All of my teaching is at Chase’s Guitar Academy which you can find via www.JazzMemes.org 👍

  • @polkzoo
    @polkzoo 2 года назад

    Most players have weak right hand technique they need to work on right hand technique a hell of a lot more your ideas are cool but most jazz players their right hand alternate picking is very weak even John Scofield admits his picking sucks .....it is hard work

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Hopefully this helps developing that right hand technique!

  • @jacobwilliams676
    @jacobwilliams676 2 года назад

    RUclips throwing shade. I was playing a slow blues at about 70 BPM earlier for about an hour just jamming and it shows me this....
    Im grateful though because at one point I was thinking, “my girlfriend wouldn’t want to always hear this. I should learn some quicker stuff.”

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Lol the AI is getting too good! 😄 But I’d bet your girlfriend is much happier with you playing a slow blues than some fast jazz lines.

  • @seabertotter4325
    @seabertotter4325 2 года назад

    Hogwash. Right hand is personal and there is no empirical way to do it right. Fast or slow, doesn't matter.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Sure it’s not codswollap?

    • @seabertotter4325
      @seabertotter4325 2 года назад

      @@ChaseMaddox It could be that or balderdash.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      @@seabertotter4325 complete poppycock

  • @kevinmaddox
    @kevinmaddox 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video brother 🙌

  • @MrXeberdee
    @MrXeberdee Год назад

    I've learned Gypsy style picking recently, although I can probably pick faster alternating still as yet, this video is a little bit like the hybrid Gypsy style (with pull offs etc) and it helps put accents in the right places because of the downward rest-stroke. Most traditional Gypsy players on string changes usually start on a downstroke, even on descending arpeggios that go top to bottom across single notes on strings. That's difficult to get right. The rest stroke itself kinda forces you to think economically, and the upstroke is really only more like a quick lifting motion to get to the next downstroke, where the string just happens to get in the way. This puts strong accents for the most part on alternating scale tones (usually 1,3,5,7 etc.) and helps with the swing feeling too. If you play 4 notes on a string with eg. a scale ascending starting on a downstroke, you finish on an upstroke, and have to skip the string you just played. This is just like alternate picking. Descending it works the other way without skipping, just raising your hand and lifting up on the string change, more like a sweep but without altering the pick angle. The Gypsy style (economy) is fastest with 3 notes per string ascending - 'double downs' alternating down, up, down - down, up down - down, up down etc. If like a bop player you fill chromatically to make the chord tones land on the down beats - then triplet like picking patterns kind of emerge on their own if you stick to the rules. Eg. add Ab to C major (harmonic) with 8th notes to land back on C. Modally, this is basically a D dorian blues scale, but the other modes are interesting too, especially the phrygian (now dominant), mixolydian (with a b9) and lydian (major or minor).

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Thanks for watching and your thoughtful comment!

  • @kurisurokku
    @kurisurokku Год назад

    Thank you for the video, I'm working through this now. One thing I'm noticing is that with the downward pick slant, my hand is out of position to mute the strings as I was (kind of unconsciously) doing with my usual right hand position. I'll keep working on it but would be happy to hear any advice you might have.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  Год назад

      Glad you’re finding it helpful! How is your RH hand positioned?

  • @oldgoattheantichrist3468
    @oldgoattheantichrist3468 2 года назад

    There is a historically correct #1 guitar virtuoso, his name was Joe Pass. Its not even arguable. His technique was flawless, and he could play anything, including today's guitar music, he was that good. We don't have virtuosos like him at guitar these days. He was guitar's version of Micheangelo. By rotating at the wrist your pick is always 'above the string'. Love Grady and his cameras but you only need to watch Joe Pass.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks for the comment! Have you seen any of the videos I’ve done on Joe Pass and his technique?

  • @EdArmGuitar
    @EdArmGuitar Год назад

    i love your book selection in the background !

  • @DavidGatto
    @DavidGatto 2 года назад

    The big question is why, not how- you wanna play at a speed 1percent can enjoy. This year your gonna make the Olympic team, if you don't break yourself first.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Having the ability to play something fast when necessary for the music is not the same thing as always playing fast things. You’re making a false equivocation.

  • @doggodproductions2259
    @doggodproductions2259 2 года назад

    Solid licks explained well, and a real pretty guitar (what is that made of, Crotch Mahagany, maybe silk wood? Beautiful). This isn't meant as a criticism, but this video is essentially a quick lesson on economy-picking. This is very similar to how i was taught that technique at Berklee (it's definitely most common in jazz and fusion, but can be useful in all music).
    For the newer players out there, don't mix up economy picking with fast alternate picked runs, though. The difference is subtle, but it's the kind of thing that can get you stuck in an odd habit, especially for 3 note per string runs. Economy picking is a fantastic technique, wherein you essentially "sweep" between the string you're on and the string you're targeting, or ive also heard it described as simply "pushing from one string to the next" during a run. There's not really any difference between economy-picking and alternate-picking on 2, 4 note-per-string runs, but for 3 note runs (without any legato), alternate picking is certainly the more precise technique. Not to mention, alternating between down-strokes and up-strokes from string to string is crucial for developing a strong picking hand.
    I used economy picking for years (thinking I was actually alternate picking), but even when running thru 3 note-per-string scales, I was basically alternate picking until the final note of each string and then "pushing" through to start the next string on a down-stroke (when playing ascending runs), and on descending runs I would do the opposite, starting each string with an upstroke, even if a down stroke would have made it "proper" alternate picking.
    I thought it was simply the fastest way around the fretboard, but when i eventually realized that my faster picking technique was economy picking, I had to sort of re-train my picking hand to correctly alternate-pick things.
    However, I always saw the value in economy-picking (even though, for me, there was a time where my brain kept telling me it was the "wrong way"), and its still a part of my style, just in a different way.
    I suppose I'm trying to say, don't let economy-picking become a crutch, because it can be. However it can also be extremely useful (as your video shows).
    I know I definitely felt validated in what, at the time, felt like "my weird picking style" when I saw guys like Pat Methany, John McLaughlin and Steve Morse using it in the same way I had been, but I still felt it was a habit I needed to break. So, I did break the habit, practiced strict alternate-picking for ages, and eventually got it where I wanted it, and then once I was feeling totally comfortable with alt-picking, I started to introduce some economy-picked lines back into my playing and they had become even more useful after really nailing down the alternate-picking.
    Economy-picking without first having a good grasp on regular alternate picking is not the best idea though, I would probably reverse the order in which I learned these picking techniques if I could, but econo-picking is just how I played runs naturally for the first few years. I say, get comfy with your alt-picking first, and then find the best way for yourself to incorporate econo-picking.
    Another neat thing about economy-picking is that it will actually help you quite alot when you start getting into sweep picked arpeggios and things like that.
    After all, for the pick hand, economy picking is essentially a mixture of alternate-picking while on an individual string and then a very small sweep-picking motion to get from one string to the next.

  • @luigipetrucci3441
    @luigipetrucci3441 2 года назад

    Come on dude, that’s not 300, that’s 150...

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      300bpm is how a gigging jazz musician would call this tempo. I’m not counting it like speed pickers or bluegrass players do.

  • @reedcapshaw5108
    @reedcapshaw5108 2 года назад

    This is a genuine question for anyone, why do so many RUclips videos need to have so many edits/cuts? Like, I can handle a few, even several within a longer video, but why so many? And is so common that I am assuming it’s become some sort of RUclips aesthetic or something and I honestly don’t get it. It gives me a headache and it’s hard to watch all the way through.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      I can’t speak for other channels but if you see cuts in my videos it’s usually because I do these videos in a single take and sometimes cut parts out to shorten the video or make a more logical explanation. I’d say in general I have fewer cuts than most videos that do make them part of their style, such as when they also cut to a closer shot or cut back to a wider shot.

  • @ghouser100
    @ghouser100 2 года назад

    Jazz Memes
    Outstanding lessons: I liken this picking approach to the gypsy jazz picking method, except in gypsy jazz, one always using a downstroke when changing strings. Nonetheless, this is an excellent tutorial.

  • @dtx378
    @dtx378 2 года назад

    Is that an AG85 Ibanez? I sold mine a while back and it's the biggest regret I've had....I REALLY want to get another

  • @NablusRain
    @NablusRain 2 года назад

    You can play lightening fast if you really really want to because besides your will there are hundreds of Tuition videos for that out there. But it might takes you forever to learn to play Soulful blues and/or rock solos, since they’re unteachable as they’re born with you or not. Just saying

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Soulful blues and rock solos are definitely not born with you or unteachable.

  • @surewhynot6040
    @surewhynot6040 Год назад

    My girlfriend prefers i play slowly

  • @jimbarrett2152
    @jimbarrett2152 2 года назад

    Good educational video, but, I wish you had shared the chords you were playing in your video as well/ the PDF’s are good/ but learning those riffs would be even better/ Be Well and Thank You

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks Jim! Which chords and riffs are you talking about?

  • @swedeinla
    @swedeinla 2 года назад

    Downward pick slanting, is really only a mix of old school picking. The rest stroke and gypsy jazz picking combined with the George Benson style.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      I could see how it could be broken up like that 👍

  • @abcddcba-p1c
    @abcddcba-p1c Месяц назад

    cool

  • @SeekerGoOn2013
    @SeekerGoOn2013 2 года назад

    My biggest challenge is not understanding why playing fast matters to so many players. BFD, know what I mean?

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Playing fast doesn’t matter…until you need to play fast

  • @RikJSmith
    @RikJSmith 2 года назад

    I only had to see about 30 seconds of this video before I hit Subscribe. Amazing Talent ! 🎸🎸🎸

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thank you! I appreciate the support 🙏

  • @gene4682
    @gene4682 2 года назад

    This was a really insightful demonstration. If only you could break it down a bit more, geared toward newer jazz players.

    • @ChaseMaddox
      @ChaseMaddox  2 года назад

      Thanks, what would help you to break down?