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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- @ahmadireligion has long been a curious movement that has sought the approval of the Muslim world by presenting a revisionist form of fringe and superficial 'Shiaism'. This movement attempts to reinvent ‘Shiaism’ that is palatable to all religions, led by Abdullah Hashim aka 'Aba Sadiq'.
@ahmadireligion yearns for acceptance from the world, and has taken it upon themselves to rebuild the Deen from ground zero upwards. Rejecting hundreds of years of Muslim scholarship. They are driven by a desire that others will heed their calls and join the newly formed cult - which neither ideologically represents the Shias let alone the Sunnis.
They have no methodology; no texts of their own; and cherry pick and choose whatever backs up their predetermined position - a universally accepted recipe for disaster. In this debate we shall expose this cult for the charlatans that they are.
They use half-baked quotes to dupe the public to ascribe to their beliefs. When they find something that contradicts their position, all the methodologies that should be used by an objective researcher are abandoned, worse still they will then employ dishonesty, false quoting to support their stance.
𝗦𝗨𝗕𝗦𝗖𝗥𝗜𝗕𝗘 & 𝗧𝗨𝗥𝗡 𝗢𝗡 𝗡𝗢𝗧𝗜𝗙𝗜𝗖𝗔𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡𝗦!
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#Abdullahhashem
#Ahmedalhassan
#mahdi
@ahmadireligion
Sayed Ali triumphant as usual. Great debator.
Key Points from the Debate:
1. Abdullah Hashem has no will.
2. The concept of a soul family is unfounded.
3. Husam lacks a reliable method to discern hadith.
4. They believe Abdullah Hashem is the reincarnation of a 6 month old infant of Imam Hussain who was slain on the battlefield. How can anyone verify a 6 month old has been reincarnated? But the rest of the Mahdi's are reincarnations of the previous Imams. Past memory regressions of previous Imams is one thing, but to say you are a 6 month old is just riddled with convenience to further waffle around.
5. Abdullah Hashem has a history of fraud before claiming to be the Qaim, suggesting he's continuing past deceptions.
6. They can't name more Mahdis because only the first two are mentioned in their non-existent will. So where did the 12 Mahdis come from?
If you're a follower of this cult, I urge you to set aside your emotions and think critically about your beliefs. This debate was very one-sided, and praising Husam for failing to address key questions about your faith is embarrassing. It's important to see the writing on the wall and think for yourselves.
The concept of a soul family is itself laughable.
@@yasinconcepts5235is it really so laughable? As Muslims we are supposed to be willing to believe in the unseen. The fact that you find a concept like that to be so farfetched actually reveals how little imagination and life experience you have. One of the few things that the cult speaks of that does seem plausible is a soul family. Do you think that blood which is liquid matter present in dunya(material world) is the only way to determine what a “family” is? Spirit came before the flesh and material so it would actually make sense that we only have physical families because spiritual and soul families existed first. Think a little bigger and stop being closed minded like our fellow Christians😂.
In the hadith of wasiat of sheik tusi - the first mahdi has three names.
no mention of the names of mahdi no 2 to mahdi no 12.Whereas the 12 imams were namedly clearly!
Just for sake of argument - if ahmad al hasan claimed as the mahdi no1 and there is no mentioning of the name of mahdi no 2,he could easily follow the tradition of writing wasiat to introduce abdullah hashem as mahdi no 2.
it cannot be mistaken that ahmad al hasan has gone missing ( maybe dead and killed by iraqi forces) and not appeared physically but only on facebook.
abdullah hashem usurped the role of ahmad al hasan by pretending he is the successor. He is a fraud mahdi. Money making machine ????
I am an Athari Salafi I dont know how I ended up here watching a debate between a Rafidhi and an Ahmadi-Rafidhi mix(?). Interesting nevertheless, how that beanie guy dodged every Single question
Dodged? It was outside the topic and I did answer all the questions on topic and he was the one avoiding the topic like a plague, may Allah heal your heart 😊
@@Hakimaalalmahdi Amin. You didnt adress a single of his points directly without redirecting to something else
@@hassanatsammler Write them down here, let's show you how this statement is empty.
Ahmadi religion of peace are not Shi'a, are qadianis sunni mix?
Total destruction without breaking a sweat. He didn't stand a chance after your introduction. 😂😂😂
Introduction was 🔥
@@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp what do we say to blind hearts, you go believe in Quraish of today :) congratulations 🎉
Who do you think won just asking I don't know lol but still do not believe Aba Sadiq
@@AdnanAli_313 sayed Ali won
@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp I thought he did also just about But the other guy made some good points also.
Flawless victory.
Great 👌🏻. May Allah bless you for exposing this cult. You did a wonderful job.
Exposing the cult? It's sad to see that after so much proof the majority of people are still asleep. May Allah guide you all out of your dark tunnel and into the light of the Ahmadi Religion. So many proofs stare you in the face, and you refuse to accept them. Pray with an open heart, Allah will guide you inshallah.
@@staceygreenwood2650do you the 5 salah, fasting n donning hijab? You people even permits alcohol consumption but great at least you don't call yourself Muslims call yours
@@annamariana8140please refer to the link I replied with.
Don't close yourself, we should always be open to seek more knowledge. Shine in intilect amd lack in ignorance
For someone who claims to represent Imam Mahdi AS, beanie is pretty angry and defensive
Why wont their "leader" not show his forehead?
Mark of the beast apparently
So i am not the only one thinks about this
Because he is hiding a head phone so he can hear what he should say
Even Aba Asadiq himself
His right eye is lazy or something too
Why won’t there leader denounce pedophilia and Aisha.
I had a similar interaction with Hussam on TikTok. He could not answer my simple questions. The first one was that if he was the Imam, he should be able to decipher the secret in the Quran, which he answered by saying," If Aba Sadiq gives you the answer, you would not understand." He refused to even try! Of course, this is clear evidence of no divine knowledge.
2. I asked if he had the Quran memorized, and Hussam diverted from answering by saying that Aba Sadiq is the Natigh Quran, showing he could not give a clear answer.
3. I asked about the proof of connection to the 11th Imam, and he completely jumped to all corners except to answer what physically happened to the 12th Imam since he went to Occultation.
They are jokes,
Thank you for given my answers, but the real question is, why do you run from the words of Ahlulbayt like a plague? Why do you not listen to their words and make up your own way of identifying, watch the debate again, ahlulbay are not obliged to worship your desires, get off your high horse, arrogance is not of the essence of a believer.
your questions were answered and they don’t lead anyone to truth, we don’t make stuff up as we go.
@@Hakimaalalmahdi I tried it with you guys, instead of answering legitimate questions with logic and reason, you divert and deceive. You push people away, your colors have faded. Shia's are logical, we question everyone and do not fall for false claims, the questions were simple and your proofs were empty claims and no receipts. If you do represent your Imam like Omar represented prophet I do not want to have any business with you or your Imam with crazy claims about Mecca, Drinking, Quran's changes. reincarnation of souls and Imamat without any proofs, mind -boggling.
Lovely to see such a debate in English.
Thats why most new converts are Sunnis. Shia videos are all in arabic
I only have one question for this man, CIA or Mossad?
There flag says it all
I’ve actually heard they get gcc money but Allah knows best
@@jaleel42 Yeah that sounds about right.
They work together now I believe!!!
can't accept when they say the Quran is incomplete, prayer was abolished by Imam Mahadi and the real kaaba is located in Petra, Jordan.
I know its hard to accept, but unfortunately the fact of the matter is, the evidence speaks louder than our feelings. I really wish we were not right so we can be on the same page, but the truth is bitter, the scholars are evil and they hid this stuff from us.
Well said syed Ali
Never seen a person not answer one question durimg a debate this was a total massacre by Sayed Ali against a straight out liar who avoided answering any questions.
Which question he didn’t answer exactly? Let’s dissect it
@@husseinassaad2758 list all the questions I did not answer :)
@@Jurajkulawhy the chicken crossed the road.
All the 11 Imams A.S and their followers always answered questions directly without fearing anything, because of the knowledge they possess. But, here Husham not only avoided all the questions, but also tried to pick a different topic throughout. Not to mention the fact that Husham's presented hadiths did not in any way worked in his favour. If we look at the debate between Imam Ali ibn Musa A.S with multiple so called scholars, he directly answered them in their language and from their own source, and none of them could utter a single word after the Imam gave them proofs.
I would like to address all the followers of this so called Qaim, please return to the way of Imams A.S, and do not get deviated by falsehood.
Ya Mahdi AJTFS Madad.
Are you sure that Imam Al-Hasan ibn Ali al-Askari had a son, before saying that Allah (ﷻ) appointed a gha’ib (absent or occulted) Imam from the descendants of His Messenger (ﷴ ﷺ)?
Please list all the questions I did not answer
@@Hakimaalalmahdi Are you sure that Imam Al-Hasan ibn Ali al-Askari had a son, before saying that Allah (ﷻ) appointed a gha’ib (absent or occulted) Imam from the descendants of His Messenger (ﷴ ﷺ)?
اللهم صل وسلم على نبينا محمد وعلى آله محمد الطيبين الطاهرين وعجل فرجهم الشريف ولعنة الله أعدائهم من الأولين ومن الآخرين 🙏🏼
In Germany there is the Al-BatulTeam. A very strong group with the brother known as Shia Hamzah. He specializes in debates and has defeated many followers of other schools, mainly Sunnis. However, two weeks ago there was a challenge against husam al hakim... husam refused after all and insulted the Shia. The reason: one member of his sick Cult told him to be careful, he Shows a lot of evidence against the sect and its false imam. this Abdullah Hashem was dismantled by him. ultimately no debate because he fled
slander is a great sin in islam. why would you do that to yourself?
@@pelerinjames Once again you didn't understand anything of what I wrote. I pray for your intellect. Your perverted "Imam" has written a book that is disgustingly perverted and blasphemous.
everything revolves around just one thing.
Sick ideology
Is the albatul team online??
@@whitehotchocolate900 yes, every Wednesday and Saturday from 6 p.m. He speaks fluent German and Arabic. Others from al batul team are specialized in English
@@whitehotchocolate900 yes, every Wednesday and Saturday from 6 p.m. He speaks fluent German and Arabic. Others from al batul team are specialized in English
May God bless you immensely brother Husam, this was a good debate and you present a great proof.
I don't know why Ali is focusing on Nasab (Descendant line) when brother Husam have already gave a narration that said he will ruled by three things that no one before him does that, it clear that no one before him did it and the narration stated that one of it is the brother will inherit the brother in the shade or in the shadow which is the Soul World. So Ali is asking for where in the past that Ahlul Bayt inherited through spiritually? Well the narration stated clearly that the Qaim will do what no one before him does this and one of it is the inheritance from the soul world. But Ali denied this.
And Sayed Ali bring forward the narration of what he thinks that this is the Will itself from the book of Al-Kafi, my brother that is like brother Husam said it narration about "mentioning of the Will" not the Will itself like the one in Ghaybah Al-Toosi. So you didn't present this to brother Husam yet the actual Will that you claim you have it.
There are a lot of narrations more proof about the truthfulness of Aba Al-Sadiq Abdullah Hashem FHIP like brother Husam said. The matter of the Ahlul Bayt is clearer than the sun.
Let's go through this each point. Where are those three things?
Not to be confused for the "Ahmadiyya Muslim Community" who accepts Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian as the Promised Messiah.
@jay1373 cause your an Ahmadi yourself? Or cause you watch anti Ahmadiyya video's all day?
Instead of creating this new Cult, why doesn't their Abdullah guy just make a whole new updated series of videos. 'The Arrivals' was avery good compelling and enjoyable set of videos overall. It's been almost 20 years so get busy doing that rather than promoting a whole new Beanie Hat Club that has no real basis or need other than to cause mischief for the benefit of our enemies
look into his claim. investigate sincerly if you are a believer in Allah
He himself became the part of ilimunati
What have you produced?
@@DeadstockDownsouth his actions are better than his words. his moral and manners. his love and mercy. his strength and intelligence. his knowledge and wisdom. knowledge is not the only thing he has. As you said he is appointed by God in the holy Will of Prophet Muhammad (pbuhf) and the Will is a protection agianst misguidance according to the words of the Prophet of Allah (pbuhf). and The Quran says The prophey (pbuhf) doenst speak from his own desires but only through divine inspiration. so if he writes a will to mention who to follow and he says that it is a protection against misguidance, automatically the person who claims the will is the truthful one. think about it. the proof is that nobody ever claimed to be Abdullah in the Will, while the Will is there in your books for hundreds of years. this should be enough of a proof for any person having an once of faith in their heart. and on top of that there are so many prophecies and hadith that confirms that this man is the Qaim of Ale Muhammad, the man who will bring justice and peace in the world. one of the mnain proof is also the banner. the black banner written on it Allegianc eis to god. He raised this abnner in 2015. nobody ever raised this abnner except for Muhammad and Ali pbut. and many hadith speaks about the mahdi ?Qaim raising the black banner where on it is written Allegiance is to God.
this is investigation. dont be lazy. its a question of heaven or hell for your soul.
@@DeadstockDownsouth if you were living with him as i do you would see miracles on a daily basis. and not small miracles.
do you know jesus? do you know his miracles? how do you think you could have witness the miracles of jesus?... by being with him. that s it. if you are not with him how are you going to witness his miracles?
It was a good debate, I researched what husam said and it was very convincing, one should research deep in it to know the truth.... May Allah guide us
😂
Really, which part of this was convincing by the Beanie Hat Club?
@@shukeelc5177 In the times of the Qaim, he will rule by three things that no one from before him has ruled it before and one of it is the brother will inherit the brother from the shadow or shade which is indication of the soul world.
I saw Sayed Ali is trying to tell Husam to bring forth which Imam did this before by inherited the successorship from the spiritual lineage. While the narration clearly stated that he will rule by three things that "no one before him ruled with". And it means that this is something new that the Qaim going to rule with and the previous Imams didn't did this before in history and one of it is the inheritance from the shade or shadow.
And it clear from another narration as well that the Qaim will come with new matter, new books, new jurisprudence that will be hard upon the Arabs
@@shukeelc5177 i think you didnt watch the debate.
@arbaazakapatel this narration is specific to inheritance not Imamah been passed over spiritually lol. Where did the Imams (as) say this is about appointment? Also it says the Imam. Now you are claiming Abdullah Hashim is an Imam? You people are totally deluded. Also why are you lying the Imam (as) will bring his own new set oflaw? Rather he will restore it back to the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw). Also your Qaim makes his own laws. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Lanat upon Abdullah Hashim aba al-sadiq and his followers
Lanat upon you and all those you follow and are followed by, until the Day of Judgement.
The lanat are already upon you that's exactly why your abusing the Vicegerent of God.
Return to the love of the ahulbayt oh Muslims🏴🏴🏴
As a Sunni I have watched this today. Great job brothers.
Sorry I have a question who are this people ? And why they have our star of kemet ?
@@AitanaMartin-mj7kmit's a cult that has emerged who's leader claims to be the Mahdi. They cherry pick different religious, esoteric and occult ideas to form this new religion.
@@AitanaMartin-mj7km they are new cult. Their leader has put all scriptures together from different religions and have started a new one. He claims to be the Mahdi.
@@Amir.Qureshi lol 😂
@@AitanaMartin-mj7km this is the Star of Prophet David a.s, it’s an inheritance of the prophets, but the religion of Islam with all its sects today, have far drifted from the true path of Muhammad fhip, to the point that their prophets knowledge became in their eyes satanic, how sad.
Sayed Ali did well. The other guy was hypocritical talking about our scholars who have disagreements and make takfir. They do worse. How can anyone trust a guy called Yamani, then ibn Mahdi, then Mahdi. This so-called Yamani is not from Yemen. He's from Iraq or Egypt. He didn't help during their famine and bombings by the USA and al Saud in Yemen. He's not helping them now with their battles in the Red Sea. How will he help the real Qaim (ajf)? Until Jibrael (as) calls out his name and his fathers name and says," The truth is with Ali and his Shia." Then we will witness the reappearance.
JAZAK ALLAH BROTHER, UNTIL THERE IS THE MUNADI THE CALLING WE CAN'T SEE THE IMAM AJTF
Sayed Ali makes it's personal, I applaud Husam for his character and akhlaq
Akhlaq and character doesn't mean you are on the truth.
@@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp Prophet Muhammad sawas came to perfect the morals of mankind, and what was the fighting for charity comment? Controlling of the Nafs isn't about who can lift the most but who can restrain themselves the most
@@huwaali7759 I agree however, Sayed Ali attacking Abdullah Hashim doesn't mean he is wrong. Sayed Ali made valid points and I applaud him for it.
You've been misguided by this cult. Might as well follow Harun Yahya or Bahaullah or Agha Khan. The list goes on.
You people have betrayed the AhlulBayt and the consequences are SEVERE
@@AlQuranAlKareem-tf9lp who said I am a follower of their religion? It's typical of Shias these days to point their fingers and judge other so quickly without giving a second thought to it. May Mola Ali AS guide us all to the real Qaem Ajfs
How about christian who have good alhlaq ..? @@huwaali7759
Gracias mi querido hermano por tu gran labor Dios te bendiga.
Abran los ojos, la historia se vuelve a repetir, y el salvador de la humanidad ya está aquí y es Abdullah Hashem a.s investiguen por favor.
Brode eres loco? Que echo este tipo?? Solo habla mierda
Complete and utter domination by Sayed Ali Imam and it was really embarrassing for the guy in the beanie hat
To be honest he couldn’t answer anything on Abdullah Hashim but instead kept on giving Hadith that had no relevance to why Mahdi is Abdullah Hashim
Easy work Sayid Ali
The heart can sense what is light and what is dark. I sense dark energy from Sayed Ali Imam. I can see light emanating from Hisham Al Hashim. The mind only creates a timeline in which if you believe in Sayed you are being pulled into his timeline. If you believe in Hisham you will be pulled into his timeline. So both are speaking the truth of their matrices.
Can Abdullah hashim tell us who is gonna win the euros ?
Egypt
@@alishah3855 Who Exactly in Egypt?
Amaizing
I agree with Husam al Hakim
SAYED ALI IMAM COMPLETELY ANNIHILATED THIS ASSASINS CREED CHARACTER 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tanks ❤❤
Moderator taking a road trip 😂
READ THE TITLE OF THIS VIDEO. IT SAYS.
DEBATE WITH ABDULLAH HASHEM,
That is not Abdullah Hashem FHIP. But I will say that Husam does indeed know Aba Al-Sadiq FHIP and may God Bless Him for even knowing him, and for he has learned truths from the truth so his words do carry weight if you only listen to what is being said.
STOP following ignorant people for clout, hellfire isn't worth it.
The problem is thats all. Hes just talking.. Hes not doing anything.
What i understood is that Aba al Sadiq is not the imam Mahdi but just a second riser for imam Mahdi. The Ahmadi creed is that there are 12 Mahdis or risers before the appearance of imam Mahdi. These 12 Mahdis are not imams because as what i understood they claimed there are 12 imams the last or the 12th is imam Mahdi. And there are 12 Mahdis. These 12 Mahdis are not imams.
So confusing same as Christian trinity lol 😂
@@abdullahmukminahmad4479 yes that's the problem
Beanie dude said an Imam must have knowledge. Is that why Abdullah Hashim doesn't know Arabic that well and he doesn't understand the Iraqi dialogue? Each imam has ilm ghayb and other knowledge given to them by Allah. This guy knows nothing
if abdullah hashem is indeed the awaited saviour of mankind, he shouldn't be frightened of debating syed ali. surely an infallible imam would overcome a fallible man?
exactly. no need to debate people who are obviously misguided and don't represent any authority.
So why do they do it online with Tick Tock? 😂@@pelerinjames
May God bless brother Husam. He has done a great job.
😂
Where is the document? The Mahdi will have
Can't have two Imams at once
I am a neutral Sunni and this was a Flawless victory by Sayed ali Imam
😬🤣
The other guy didn’t know what to say but just laugh at his own stupidity
I cant imagine the mahdi to discuss that he is the mahdi on discord 😭
he says he debated hundreds of shia scholars?
what is their channel.
because i'm 100% sure he and their entire group have not.
Perhaps they were private debates, without recordings.
@@ultrasignificantfootnote3378 are you telling me that according to his claim that he debated hundreds and he beat all of them but none of it is on their channels?
they have many useless videos on their channels but none of his so called ''hundreds of debateds'' where he never lost?
that's how to spot a liar, since they do have channels, and do upload videos, that means he is a liar.
@@ahmadal-islam4654 No I can't claim that, but what is useless is subjective, and if you are against them the videos can be very useful to debunk them 😊
@@ultrasignificantfootnote3378 subjective??? they are lying in the name of allah and prophet and ahlul al bayt and claiming one of them is the messiah etc. and then claiming he debated shia scholars and dont even have one recording? i mean listen, even sunnis has manipulated recordings where they use their magic scissor and manipulate the videos and cut the words to their likings, but they dont even have that xDDD they have nothing and still claim xDD
and btw.
their way of ''confirming the imam'' is not true, because anyone can claim it the way they ''confirm'' it which is wrong.
they take whatever they like and leave whatever they dont like.
they claim imam mehdi has appeared but where is he filling earth with rightousness and justice?
basically their mehdi is whatever and whoever they want.
they take any hadith that support their cult and leave everything that disagree with it,
and they manipulate narrations, mistranslate and dont explain it right. they cut words.
these people ...
may allah guide them.
Sayed Ali debate me about Ahmad Al Hasan or better yet debate Tholfigar Ansary if you’re brave enough
1:19:08 a problem for every solution. Hasam did pretty well in this debate.
Sad to see our Muslim world has failed dismally
Sorry, but Ahmadi thought has nothing even remotely connected to Shia though, not even superficial 'Shiaism'. We need to get some this right. The earliest origins of Shia movement go back to the time of the Prophet himself, as stated by Sunni scholars themselves:
يا علي أبشر فإنك و أصحابك و شيعتك في الجنَّة
The Prophet of Allah (S) said:" *Glad tidings O ‘Ali, verily you and your companions and your Shia will be in Paradise*"
Some *Sunni reference* :1) Fadha’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p655; 2) Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu’aym, v4, p329; 3) Tarikh, by al-Khateeb al-Baghdadi, v12, p289; 4) al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani; 5) Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v10, pp 21-22; 6) al-Darqunti, who said this tradition has been transmitted via many different authorities; 7) al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami , Ch. 11, section 1, p247;
شيعة علي هم الفائزون يوم القيامة
The Messenger of Allah (S) said: "The Shi’a of ‘Ali shall be victorious on the day of Resurrection/ Judgement"
Sunni references:1)al-Manaqib Ahmad, as mentioned in:(a) Yanabi' al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, p62; (b) Tafsir al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Hafidh Jalaaluddin al-Suyuti, who quotes the tradition as follows: "We were with the Prophet(s) when ‘Ali came towards us. The Holy Prophet said: "He and his Shi’a will acquire salvation on the day of judgement."
There are several events reported by both Sunni and Shi'a scholars / historians when the prophet indicated in no uncertain terms who his choice was for his successor - someone who truly understood his message - and that was his cousin and later son-in-law, Ali ibn Abi Talib. The one event that outstands is the Event of Ghadeer:
The event of Ghadeer al-Khumm and the Prophet's sermon and several ahaadeth indicate his clear choice for Imam Ali as his successor. Ghadeer is an event which has the greatest number of mutawaatir asnaad (continuous, unbroken narrations) in the history of Islam!
... and there is the declaration of Ghadeer:
"من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه اللهم وال من والاه وعاد من عاداه"
[For whom I am a "maula", then Ali is his/her "maula". God be a friend of whoever befriends Ali and be an enemy of whoever is his enemy! ]
Thus the Prophet(s) through his many far-reaching statements like this enunciated over many years declared that his minister and his deputy, and the one who like the Holy Prophet should be followed and obeyed by all the Muslims, was only Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib. All these ranks are implied various ahaadiith, like in the "Hadeeth ul Manzilah, where he draws the analogy between Ali and Aaron (Haaruun) the brother of Moses. This hadith has been mentioned in different historical, traditional, and theological sources.(1) Shi'a scholars have written about it, including Mir Hamid Husayn (d. 1306/1889) who dedicated one volume of 'Abaqat al-Anwaar specifically to this it. Haakim Haskani narrated from his teacher, Abu Haazim Haafiz Abdaway, that he recorded narration of the hadith of "Manzilah" from 5000 references.(2) In another report, all 88 of the most famous hadith narrators have narrated this hadith (3). Other scholars including Ibn Taymiyya (4), 'Abd al-Haqq Dihlawi, al-Ganji al-Shafi'i, Abu l-Qasim 'Ali b. al-Muhassin al-Tanukhi, and al-Suyuti have acknowledged the authenticity, strength and popularity of this hadith.(5) This hadith has also been mentioned in Sahih al-Bukhari(6), Sahih Muslim(7) and other Sunni hadith references(8).
The following declaration leaves no doubt when the Prophet(s) said:
"إن هذا أخي وصيّي وخليفتي فيكم فاسمعوا له وأطيعوه."
"This is my brother, executor and successor. Listen to him and obey him" (9, 10, 11, 12)
What more does the idea of khaleefah mean?
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i love you 𝐀𝐛𝐝𝐮𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡 𝐇𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐦
Shame on you.
@@Sara-uv5ec is oner to me to love Abdulah hashim
What could be going on in your lives that you want to do this? Are you lonely? Gone through trauma?? Seriously you cant be serious
Sayed Ali chose violence.
Violence? You must've been watching a UFC video instead
Does anyone know if the main leader has had interviews or talks with leaders/scholars of other religions? I thought there might be videos of talks with him directly with different Muslims/christian and Jewish people. Also was there not a sister who exposed this some years ago and she left them? I also remember there were ex members who spoke about why they left and what they believed it to be a cult. I would personally like to see him talk directly to the religious scholars unless he has already done that.
Abdullah runs wen a scholar challenge's him to a debate..excuse saying Abt the scholar, why .who is he..or stand for?.. no point, due to different views..
Only interviews with people he chooses, usually women from his cult. Go check the jinn catching Ben Halima did on this cult 😅 you will understand alot more. The Jinns they work with ratted them out.
The cover that RUclips chose for this video is a cartoon character 😂 now I know why
The problem is Aba Sadiq is not ahlul bait and you are riding on ahlul bait to justify your explanation. Aba sadiq is a total fake mahdi. The hadits the Ahmadi fake religion used are all not authentic.
Why was there a CUT at 49:20 ???
That was what i noticed, how many more are there !?
Nice question
Clear cut scammers. 😅
Thanks for exposing this cult. How naive people must be to follow them.
naive? The prophet left a will which is a protection against misguidance. The people of the ahmadi religion of peace and light follow this will. what is naive in that? they simply obey Muhammad pbhf command and Will.
@pelerinjames a will which is physical which you don't have.
Allāhu Akbar
28:43 Are the belongings described? Because my fear is that you have no idea what the belongings are and then your doubting mind will hurl garbage. ☹
you can not find imam mehdi, Allah has hide the kiyamah, no one knows.
All of the twelvers shiia including you Sayed Ali Imam , I have 2 questions for you, if you guys cannot answer all of this debate is done and the winner is Hussam because Hussam can actually answer these questions , If you twelvers cannot answer you are out from the wilayah of Ali (as).
Anyway we all know this haddirh from the Ahlul beyt saying that we should have an imam in every day and age and if you don't know the imam of your time you die from the death of Jahilya.
So the first question is who is your imam ? You guys will probably say Imam Al Mahdi (as) but you guys know him? Did you see him? Did you hear anything from him ? Did you even see him in real life or TV ? Of course not because he is hidden.
So we can see from 3 like 4 narrations in the book basair Al darrajat when the Ahlul beyt are saying that if an imam is silent we should have an apparent imam .
So my second question is because imam Mahdi (as) is silent/hidden so who is the apparent imam ?
If you guys cannot answer you should try to find the apparent imam because you just don't know your imam and anything you can say you guys are just a jahyl because you don't know the imam of your time
And to prove that my argument is strong enough we can see in bihar Al Anwar vol 53 page 15 a Haddith from imam Jaffar as Sadiq (as) narrated from muffadal Ibn Umar saying that the door of imam Mahdi (as) is Muhamad Ibn Nuseyr (as) so muhamad Ibn nuseyr (as) was the apparent imam in the beginning of the ghayba of Imam Mahdi (as)
45:40 wow! that's heavy stuff if you have been beating your chest and head thinking you are following Islam.
Take it easy big boy! Your apparent Abdul Hashim is a money thief and was committing homosexuality in Europe!
He would scream at the prophet yaqub for also crying till he went blind for a son that wasn’t dead 😂. That’s what happens when you read half the Hadith cause a beanie is covering the majority of your vision.
Moses(as) killed someone and Allah still made him a prophet, just saying
MashaAllah , sayed Ali .
hi guys can someone explain about these guys with beany hats. who they worship and what religion they follow. seen few of their videos and feel strange energy.
MUFTI MENK HE LIGHTS UP THE WHOLE PLACE. PEACEFUL ENERGY.
They create cults for fame… hell came cheap for them
This guy got Rekt by Sayed Ali the Shia guy
🤣🤣🤣 even watching this as a Sunni is laughable
Sayed Ali Imam defeated him with eyes closed 🤣
I noticed that a few times.
Those who think tht this debate was a massacure ,dont believe in the proofs ( why are we always asking for more ? Is this not something we have failed in the past????, why are we never accepting of anything God puts down in front of us?? How much more do we need before we can accept??)If you dont believe in the proofs, then I think there may be reason to believe that you are a disbeliver but you just dont know it yet.
Idk you guys obviously won the debate ,. But Abdullah Hashem got unveiled snow bunnies on his channel 😅
do you insult every woman without a veil jahil jaleel?
I think you should correct the title
26:17 nice question
They told you and you don't accept, Husam did give many answers that we can all read and have probably have read.
Why is the moderator in a car ?
really stupid from syed ali since the website clearly stated that the lineage is referring to soul world. aba al sadiq never in his life claimed that he is the biological son of ahmed al hassan
You are a type of guy who thinks Donald Duck is the coming Messiah and we should believe him in! Please. 😂😂😂
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 u r a type of guy whom every time real prophet from God came you reject them even they were mentioned in the will of their predecessors
Is there any hadith referring to that? Nope
Reliable actually not some made up hadiths like this scammer says
@@Sara-uv5ec there are lots of hadiths pointing that he is the Mahdi. So whatever he says is the truth
what is impressive is that the Prophet pbhf, that you pretend to love, wrote a will and said it was a protection against misguidance but you DECIDE out of personal opinion not to follow it. Good luck when you will meet Prophet Muhammad on the other side to explain to him why you did not respect him and ignored his call.
Where are the names of the other Qaims?
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The other Qaims are from Abdullah Hashim which means that he will mention their names before he die.
@@jaafer3990 You said you're not a follower of Abdullah Hashem you liar
@@GoodNewsForStrangers
I swear to Allah I'm not a follower yet, but I had to clear what I have learned from his followers. I'm studying their case and when I make sure that they are truthful, I will say I'm a follower even if it cost me my life.
Try debating with ammar nakshawani, he won’t run lol
Sayed Ammar would destroy Abdullah Hashem and this cult any day
Ammar Nakshawani would charge to debate about imam Mahdi, he's a trades man :) let him come we are open
@@Sara-uv5ec wow but he's not doing it therefore he's cursed by the Ahlulbayt for he's not showing his knowledge? and they ftip said "in the time of fitna, it's a duty for the knowledgeable to make their knowledge apparent." Thanks for exposing him. He knows us very well btw.
May God grant you success, my brother Hossam
Beanie Cult. Big up Syed Ali 💚
The Ahmedy religion of peace and light 💪🙏🙏🌹.
Husam clearly prevailed in this debate
God bless brother hussam for serving allah and mahdis demonstrting the Righteous religion
Bendiciones
There is no God but Allah. Mohammed is the messenger of Allah. Ali and the Imams from his sons are the proofs of Allah. The Mahdi and the Mahdis are the proofs of Allah.
Hello i want to know why they using ghadir as last name or this house ... and the tarshis Andalucian originaly Egyptian star ?
12er Shias, how do you recognise the Mahdi when he arrives? Because once you find a law of identifying the Hujjah and find a person that fits that law, you will have to abandon all these so-called imams and sheiks and scholars and pledge allegiance to the Mahdi as it's going to be a duty upon you
The fact that this apostate erected idols and statues is testament of their corruption.
He didn't answer anything 😂😂😂
Baytul iblees have been buried by husam.
The Iblees was in the house of A'isha.
Are you on Medication? 💊
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 you I think your guy should just stick with Hyde Park debates. Oh sorry I forgot you were chased out by salafies from the park. Ask him to fight hijab if he wants to box with husam. You guys are a joke really
@@idnanshaffi4348so says the one who thinks Abdul Hashim is the 12th Imam😂😂😂. That is like saying Donald Duck is the 12th Imam and now we need to debate you idiots to disprove this narrative?
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 it's amazing you didn't understand a word in the debate yet you would support baytul iblees. Abdullah Hashem never claimed to be the 12th imam. So I guess your the idiot then.
Goal of the wise lists the names of the 12 Mahdis BUT on page 162, it goes from 8th to naming the 10th which is a clear proof this is ALL made up , how can Gods representative makes an error? There are 100s of other missing elements and errors and issues in this book , that I can write a book about, another grave issue is the Soul Tree , doesn’t have Imam Hassan, just missing him completely
That book is so childish
Yes Amen but i get told its all in my head or illusion..
what happens if theoretically and I have utmost respect and please Allah help me formulate these words, a DNA test could prove this ? How can someone prove, unprove that he is a descended of the Holy Prophet peace be upon him. How will they be satisfied, what if two independent labs come with different results. Their argument doesn't make sense.
Ive never seen this guy without a beanie on his head
I heard there's a 2 for 1 sale on beanies. Hence, Sayed Ali took 2 out at the same time 🎉😂
I heard the demand for nappies have gone up.
Discord and darkness is spread by the non-working religious scholars of Islam - the enemies of the Mahdi - just as the narrations of Ahlulbayt state
I won’t comment on that which I do not know. Debate as a form of combat Mr. Husam has the Higher ground for that alone. Words are seductive but at least There are two men who show there face.
Aba Sadiq is really a fake.
Got to say, this was just. Not a good debate overall.
Why?
The shawl wins 🏆
😂😂😂
I am the actual mahdi. So Abdul what ever better stop set tripping or we’re gonna have problems.
Hmmm...
Not to be debates...