Not just on the depiction of PTSD by itself, but the response I really liked as well. "We're not on a battlefield, we're home free. You and me. Look up. What do ya see?" "A lot of smoke." "Yeah, that's there, but it's a machine, you got Destiny's Child behind on the stage right in front of you. See?"
Congrats for claiming your participation in one of the USA’s invading wars. The entire world hates you for that. That’s like having a Russian soldier happily claiming his participation in the invasion of Ukraine.
Hey this is Jay Dorleus! He has a RUclips channel named Green Beret Chronicles. I saw the thumbnail and thought it was him but something was a little off, he wasn't wearing his hat. Jay is starting a mentor program for people interested in the military. I had the privilege of having a 60 minute one on one call with him. He was very helpful and informative. Without a doubt he knows a lot. I have only seen one of the movies here and that was Green Zone. The landmines and IEDs everywhere had to be nerve wrecking but our brave men and women went in anyways. Thank you, Jay and everyone who has served in the military.
@cylandar It wasn't the actual Jay Dorleus typing, nor was the writer pretending to be. His fan was just saying like "Hey, this is Michael Jordan doing this Insider youtube video. Much respect" (FYI, the real Jay is actually replying in the comments as @GreenBeretChronicles )
This dude's great & he's been thru so much so young. Can't imagine being treated for PTSD then being able to calmly witness triggering movie clips yet still deliver excellent commentary, including about PTSD itself. Brother deserves nothing but peace until the end of his long happy healthy life.
Vets seem to rarely have anything good to say about the Hurt Locker. Interesting how it was so critically acclaimed but seems to have missed the mark on military realism for the most part. Also shoutout to Jay for being on this episode! He didn't mention it in the intro but he was Special Forces (aka Green Beret), his videos are worth a watch too.
Well critically acclaimed by film critics. And for a movie with a $15 million budget they did a good job, albeit not a realistic job. Also a lot of the hype was the usual Oscars circle jerk, Kathryn Bigalow was the first female to win best director and I believe also beat her ex husband James Cameron who was up for Avatar. The academy really wanted to show how inclusive they are. And as far as directing of a movie she certainly deserved it over Avatar. But back to the point the screenplay was written by a journalist imbedded with troops for 2 weeks. Same guy also wrote Zero Dark Thirty, and apparently the story in the video game Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
@@dmcgee3 Full disclosure I havent seen it, but I imagine it's high on drama and story but lacking in the accuracy department which critics are gonna take any day over meticulous attention to detail, although it helps for sure. But yeah award shows have always been about industry politics and virtue signalling especially nowadays
Because it's a really good movie. Platoon is a great war movie, even though Oliver Stone's old teammates said it was completely over the top and covered about 50 careers in one.
@@dmcgee3JFC, is the Woke Boogeyman in the room with you right now? The Hurt Locker was a fine film (for story and character) and her Oscar was deserved. Avatar was an amazing technical feat by a master of genre film but its story is unimpressive.
This is one of the most on point breakdowns I have ever seen; Especially regarding PTSD. Good to see someone speaking openly about needing to seek help to resolve their issues.
My dad was a staff sergeant he served 4 tours in Iraq 32 years active duty united states army he was in for 17 got out then after 9/11 he reenlisted and finished his career 4 guys that served with him in Iraq have taken their own lives unfortunately from PTSD it's such a sad reality for these heroic men and women. Thank you for your service 1st sergeant from military family to military family much much respect
I really appreciate how he gave his reasons for the scores he awarded. A nice recap of everything he'd said by that point. Fantastic and informative, as all of these are.
Hey! It’s the guy from the Green Beret Chronicles RUclips channel. You have inspired me and I’m going to start the process of going Army SOF and pursuing my true dream instead of what my family is pressuring me to do. I will keep watching your videos and hope you keep doing what you’re doing. Thank you.
@@Vivi2372 Except it doesn't. We are currently living in the most peaceful and prosperous time in human history and it's still improving slowly across the world. The stats prove it. I know what my nation has done in the past. I am not naive. However, I also know that some people, especially terminally online people, love to blame the US for stuff that it had nothing to do with, and I will call them out for it.
Let’s get it. Lol last summer I was with my brother in law (I think that’s how one says it?) and was doing outdoor carpentry for a man from Peru his name was Roberto. He showed his tattoo and pictures of when he was a young combat diver. Then he said “he’s going to become a comando soldier” to my brother in law, I laughed and he looked at me and said “why are you laughing!? I’m serious!” 😅
Every Iraq vet I’ve spoken to, and honestly WoT vet in general, has told me that Gen Kill is the most realistic piece of media made so far. I’ve seen it a minimum of a dozen times, it’s hand in hand with Band of Brothers for me.
" we can't just leave them (humvees) on the side of the road. We can't take off on foot because now we're leaving government equipment behind and we're running from the enemy and we just don't do that." notice his smile. lol
@@courage04 He was talking about in a battle. But at any rate I literally know 0 vets including myself who actually like Joe Biden no one is worried about such a comment though we weren't the ones holed up in caves in the mountains we had everything but those caverns. We care about what happened and is happening to the people especially women. Biden clearly isn't as caring a person as he'd have you believe, we knew the ANA was about 30% Taliban already and this was reported/known to him. Its not just conservatives that know(not think) Biden is a sub human POS.
Hes not wrong. The trucks have sensitive coms and your not just gonna walk back to the FOB like your in the park. And yes, trucks on hes hand receipt lol.
@@User-54631 oh, didn't know that. Good to know that civilians are bad at directing military style movies and shows no matter the gender. True equality is finally achieved.
@@TealJoshwhat’s insulting is that they didn’t even bring a Military Technical Advisor! Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, and Full Metal Jacket all at least had one (even played a role in the movie).
Notice how he is not introduce himself as “special forces” even though he was in special operation . That’s a real dude right there. He also have youtube channel.
I really enjoyed this ratings from a real veteran, it teaches us a lot of what he and his compatriots went through. That PTSD scene was fantastic, a splendid representation of the trauma the soldiers had to endure after they returned home.
1-8 Cav here, I was a tanker in Baghdad for about 2 1/2 years over seas and the only movie I've seen about my conflict that really impresses me was Sand Castles. Some urban ambush stuff I've dealt with many times they do quite well there. And yeah we did a lot of our work in trucks just like any grunt. Tanks were used about 25% of the time on missions. American Sniper does a good job of getting the look right though. No question there that's good attention to detail. My big beef with movies about our recent conflicts is mostly that they are set in such rural circumstances, and I've never seen war from the countryside, only in highly populated areas. And it simply looks different than what you usually see portrayed in film. It's not very exciting just having a roadside bomb explode with no movement to contact. Or evading a rooftop ambush and retuning later with a battalion or brigade element. So the movies that do show those types of things tend to be shown from POVs I'm not familiar with, like helicopters or EOD. Long story short, we saw a lot of war but actually did very little shooting. And people don't want to see that very much. We had to be very careful about returning fire and our enemies were very keen to not be found, so the name of the game was just staying alive and making sure our responses were fast and no one panics.
Good day, a question if I may. Were you in country around June/July 2004 around Al Rashid delivering almost 70 tonnes of seeds, fertilizer and 5 tractors for the local farmers? For their/your efforts, 1st Battalion was rewarded with 5 KIA and multiple wounded. "Honour and Courage" Glad you made it home.
@@hoghogwild We were in Camp Falcon and our sector was Abu Dsheer on the southern part of the city. Very poor part of town. 2nd tour we were up in Baladiyat/Oubedi out of Camp Rustimayah, but we lived out in sector in fortified bunkers for most of that. Can't remember which company in our battalion had the farms to the southeast of us but they had some nasty IED problems on those canal roads. Thanks for the kinds words!
The thing about American Sniper that pissed me off the most was him going and clearing houses with the Marines. He got down there and apparently the Marines had no idea how to clear a house, in the middle of the battle of Fallujah. Lol, for real, at that point those Marines had no need of some lone Navy SEAL to come down and show them how to do their job with a sniper rifle.
The point is, it’s kinda insulting to assume that these Marines were as clueless as they appear in this movie. I get that it’s a movie, but it this point I think the Marines a pretty good idea of what they were doing. He could’ve gone in there with 4 knives taped together to make a sword and my point would be the same.
@@jimborowe970 you a marine? Soz but if we’re talking which branch is collectively the biggest dumbass, it’s marines. It’s a movie for entertainment, chill out.
It’s relieving to see that there is still quality content on the internet, not just mindless tik toks. Real people discussing the skills they’ve learned from mastering their craft.
love my sappers. (referring to PTSD clip in any considered low to advanced stages) good to see you (who ever the speaker is) keeping composure when being shown all these flashes of triggering clips (p.c) clips. i hope you were able to decompress and gather yourself before being left to your own mechanisms to make it home or wherever you had to go to get home alone safe and sound. i know all to well being shown flashes of war clips and battle damage and asked to identifying and explaining in barney style terms to people never having being there having to re-lase your boots and baby-sit reliving in detail actions taken on combatants (direct/indirect) stream line personally experienced sustained visible/no visible injuries and brothers who paid the ultimate respect during deployments and after reintegration that you've witnessed at a young age and re-lived yearly after at least 6-8 months between another round of 12-15 month rotations just to be told your time is up thank you and sent on your way with a breathing exercise or a thanks for sharing and a cautious unsure approach to a hand shake. those First steps outside are so different and the air doesn't even smell the same when you see people just going about their normal days with minimal attention to detail and that initial alone time sitting by yourself in you vehicle is a blessing to eventually come around from and to regaining the suppression of any first thought urges. Replacing images of war with images of family ,friends, priorities, obligations, and remembrance honoring ones lost that you continue to live selflessly and hopefully gives answers to not immediately drive to the nearest watering hole or dive bar and do stupid stuff because of displaced aggression,depression,or aggression. i applaud your growth, you learning from your experiences good and losing your freedoms you've fought so hard for and get back in the fight confidently displaying growth and maturity. and for anyone else watching and possibly struggling , drill in the understanding that you're not alone and nothing is impossible.
I was pretty disappointed with 'American Sniper'. When he called his wife on a Satellite phone in the middle of gunfight, I was like, "Yeah, this movie sucks."
Plus Chris Kyle was a liar and a complete war criminal, it turns out. Him and his boy Jocko (aka the little pig dudes from Jabba’s palace come to life)
I’m retired Navy. Had a shrink say that I had PTSD. I worked the flight deck at night for a long time. Like I told her, no, those guys with the bullets and bombs flying around them. For those of your that were there, nothing but respect.
Guys like this with 2 decades of combat experience are coming up on retirement. I just hope that all of the lessons learned are sustained. If history is any indicator, we will probably have to re-learn some of them the hard way, unfortunately.
It's interesting to see how Jay sees the role of an interpreter here 20:50. Insider released a similar video recently that had an Afghan war veteran pointing out that, in fact, interpreters are more than just there to translate.
GK great series, glad it got 9 In regards to former military (or other style videos) reviewing depiction on film, i think consider bias of how they think it should be, rather than is. Still very interesting
I'm not a soldier. Had contact with soldiers that went to Iraq and most did not believe in WMD. They fought because it was their job and also few people held Sadam Hussein in high regard.
19:41 Jay says 50 cal's, but the graphics team showed a picture of a Mk 19 grenade launcher, which is like a machine gun but for 40mm grenades. The US would use a mix of them.
Nice commentary. Glad they got a combat engineer instead of EOD, probably because they'd have to wait 12 more hours for EOD to show up. I think the biggest thing Hollywood misses is the paranoia of what happens next with IEDs and the endless loop of trying to outsmart insurgents. I haven't seen that depicted well enough. Not to mention they always have unarmored trucks in the movies like it's still 2003. By 2004 or 2005, Humvees had tons of modified armor, the Dukes and Rhino systems, and weighed as much as a bus despite being a third the size. They also never really show the damage a 50 cal can do and how loud it is, especially when you're in the trucks.
I don't know the specifics of the scene with the interpreter, but I do want to make an observation: Interpreters aren't just there to translate. We have translators. I was one. Not a combat-oriented translator, but a translator nonetheless. Interpreters are there to actually dig into what's being said, also what's not being said, and how it's being said. What First Sergeant said is he wanted a translator, not an interpreter.
Every time I watch one of these, it happens when I’m drinking, dealing with the same things that these scenes are portraying. I landed in Iraq almost 19 years ago…you’d think I’d know by now not to watch them.
GK is good and I didn’t realize how good it is the first time I watched it because I was young and didn’t understand the message// moral of the story. I do now cuz I’m an adult and I’m watching GK for the 5th time! Really good interesting mini series. I love America but man we killed a lot of civilians in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The paranoia of war is so depressing among all the other terrible things
What bothers me in movies is when I see them shooting in full automatic. That is not how it work. 100 percent of time you should be shooting in semi. It's suppose to be a precision weapon. Also you should only be shooting when you have a target in your sight picture
Technically Iraq did have WMDs, but the suggestion was that they had nukes. They obviously did not. But Nerve Gas and other biological weapons are technically WMDs. But As I said, we all know that isn't what they meant or implied.
I'm impressed with the sniper who was able to tag Cena. Probably had some good optics to be able to see the Dr. of Thuganomics in the middle of a windy and sandy desert.
EOD grunts are a different breed, they go into a situation KNOWING things ain't right, and they have to un-f*&k things so the rest of us can get thru. I hold them in the same level of respect as the 160th SOAR chopper jockeys, those guys were utterly fearless when it came to getting us out of nasty situations and as long as I live, if I run into a Nightstalker, they will NEVER pay a cent for booze. Sua Sponte brothers, 30 years later I still miss that life, as much as it sucked at times.
The chin strap thing never happens IRL. We always have the strap buckled because we're not in WWII and those helmets aren't super lightweight. You don't want it moving around a lot.
I mean the war didn't have to happen at all. But that's the sort of thing that does happen when presidents and their lackies don't get called out on obvious lies.
@@Vivi2372 Any war is one of choice, but this is the wrong framing. The question wasn’t to invade by an arbitrary date or let stability reign. The sanctions regime was actively collapsing, thanks to countries like Jordan, France, Germany, and Russia. Had it collapsed entirely, Saddam Hussein could have rebuilt his weapons programs. In some ways, of course, there is always a choice. In this case, then, the choice was to constrain Saddam or allow the restoration of his power. The status quo was not an option. Bush didn't lie. Bush (and Vice President Dick Cheney) read the intelligence presented them. Sometimes, that intelligence was wrong. The problem wasn’t Bush-era politicization of intelligence. The problem was more systematic and, as the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency sought to deflect blame, it remains unresolved. The core problem is that much of the Iraq-era intelligence rested on either signals intelligence (e.g. intercepted phone calls) or human intelligence (e.g. debriefing defectors). Hussein had bluffed even his own people about having weapons of mass destruction. That meant that generals speaking to each other on the telephone might make reference to a capability they believed Iraq had and debriefs of defectors deemed not to be deceptive reinforced this claim, because the defectors also believed Saddam’s propaganda. How to avoid multiple streams of bad intelligence each reinforcing each other? Lost in the blame game is the fact that there still is no answer.
A LOT of military movies get a lot of things right, and a lot of things WRONG, about being in Iraq. I was in Iraq from 2009-2010. The sand storms DO happen a lot and they come on fast. The one thing that always stays in my memory is when one of our convoys was attacked. Some of the enemy would use old Russian RKG-3 anti tank grenades on convoys. These grenades once thrown have a small parachute that pops out and keeps it stable in flight. This is to ensure the grenade hits its target at a 90 degree angle which allows the charge to penetrate armored vehicles. One of these were used on on of our MRAPs, it took out 3 or 4 of its tires, but a HUGE hole in the side of it and actually hit the gunner. She was a female MP and was like 5 foot nothing, maybe 120lbs soak and wet. It hit her in the side and kept going, she was air lifted back to Rammstein air force base in Germany where she remained for about 6 months, but she was tough as nails and 6 months later was RIGHT BACK OUT THERE IN IRAQ.
That PTSD scene is pretty impressive. Nice to see it discussed.
they did a pretty job, on the depiction I agree
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Not just on the depiction of PTSD by itself, but the response I really liked as well.
"We're not on a battlefield, we're home free. You and me. Look up. What do ya see?"
"A lot of smoke."
"Yeah, that's there, but it's a machine, you got Destiny's Child behind on the stage right in front of you. See?"
It's so awesome he speaks so openly about his own struggles with PTSD. We need this now more than ever.
Served two tours as route clearance in Iraq. Dorleus was on point, so happy to hear a fellow engineer layin it down!
yes, Thanks
Engineers lead the way!
Thank you for your service
Congrats for claiming your participation in one of the USA’s invading wars. The entire world hates you for that.
That’s like having a Russian soldier happily claiming his participation in the invasion of Ukraine.
Essayons --- 10th
A retired 1SG mad about a chinstrap, accurate AF.
Indubitably
But what about those honor guards who have the tiny chin strap that fits just under your lip? ;)
It would behoove them to unfuck that Kevlar.
haha, yep
For real 😂😂
this dude was seriously on point. please have him do more of these.
He's a glorified terrorist. Really helped America by killing Iraqi civilians.
Hey this is Jay Dorleus! He has a RUclips channel named Green Beret Chronicles. I saw the thumbnail and thought it was him but something was a little off, he wasn't wearing his hat. Jay is starting a mentor program for people interested in the military. I had the privilege of having a 60 minute one on one call with him. He was very helpful and informative. Without a doubt he knows a lot.
I have only seen one of the movies here and that was Green Zone. The landmines and IEDs everywhere had to be nerve wrecking but our brave men and women went in anyways.
Thank you, Jay and everyone who has served in the military.
Why are you talking in 3rd person?
@cylandar It wasn't the actual Jay Dorleus typing, nor was the writer pretending to be. His fan was just saying like "Hey, this is Michael Jordan doing this Insider youtube video. Much respect" (FYI, the real Jay is actually replying in the comments as @GreenBeretChronicles )
This dude's great & he's been thru so much so young. Can't imagine being treated for PTSD then being able to calmly witness triggering movie clips yet still deliver excellent commentary, including about PTSD itself. Brother deserves nothing but peace until the end of his long happy healthy life.
does he
These veteran react ones are always fascinating because of each person’s varying experiences.
Vets seem to rarely have anything good to say about the Hurt Locker. Interesting how it was so critically acclaimed but seems to have missed the mark on military realism for the most part. Also shoutout to Jay for being on this episode! He didn't mention it in the intro but he was Special Forces (aka Green Beret), his videos are worth a watch too.
Well critically acclaimed by film critics. And for a movie with a $15 million budget they did a good job, albeit not a realistic job. Also a lot of the hype was the usual Oscars circle jerk, Kathryn Bigalow was the first female to win best director and I believe also beat her ex husband James Cameron who was up for Avatar. The academy really wanted to show how inclusive they are. And as far as directing of a movie she certainly deserved it over Avatar. But back to the point the screenplay was written by a journalist imbedded with troops for 2 weeks. Same guy also wrote Zero Dark Thirty, and apparently the story in the video game Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
@@dmcgee3 Full disclosure I havent seen it, but I imagine it's high on drama and story but lacking in the accuracy department which critics are gonna take any day over meticulous attention to detail, although it helps for sure. But yeah award shows have always been about industry politics and virtue signalling especially nowadays
To be fair being historically accurate and a good movie are 2 different things, some do both some do neither.
Because it's a really good movie. Platoon is a great war movie, even though Oliver Stone's old teammates said it was completely over the top and covered about 50 careers in one.
@@dmcgee3JFC, is the Woke Boogeyman in the room with you right now?
The Hurt Locker was a fine film (for story and character) and her Oscar was deserved. Avatar was an amazing technical feat by a master of genre film but its story is unimpressive.
This is one of the most on point breakdowns I have ever seen; Especially regarding PTSD. Good to see someone speaking openly about needing to seek help to resolve their issues.
This guys' arms are bigger then my future
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Yup. Its *than also 💀
You raided my Vibe bro.@@Vibe_Raider
What’s his 3 mile? That’s what I wanna know…..
The Army has the absolute biggest beef-men and the absolute scrawniest wiry guys and they can both kill you
This was by far the best narrator ever
about time yall released this era
My dad was a staff sergeant he served 4 tours in Iraq 32 years active duty united states army he was in for 17 got out then after 9/11 he reenlisted and finished his career 4 guys that served with him in Iraq have taken their own lives unfortunately from PTSD it's such a sad reality for these heroic men and women. Thank you for your service 1st sergeant from military family to military family much much respect
I really appreciate how he gave his reasons for the scores he awarded. A nice recap of everything he'd said by that point. Fantastic and informative, as all of these are.
His judgement is critical,his breakdown of real world experience vs Hollywood is next level,I'm lovin the scores!!
Hey! It’s the guy from the Green Beret Chronicles RUclips channel. You have inspired me and I’m going to start the process of going Army SOF and pursuing my true dream instead of what my family is pressuring me to do. I will keep watching your videos and hope you keep doing what you’re doing. Thank you.
lets get it
Good on you. Do for you not what others think you should. Good luck
I am so sorry that your dream is to serve in a military and for a country that actively makes the world a worse place for everyone.
@@Vivi2372 Except it doesn't. We are currently living in the most peaceful and prosperous time in human history and it's still improving slowly across the world. The stats prove it. I know what my nation has done in the past. I am not naive. However, I also know that some people, especially terminally online people, love to blame the US for stuff that it had nothing to do with, and I will call them out for it.
Let’s get it. Lol last summer I was with my brother in law (I think that’s how one says it?) and was doing outdoor carpentry for a man from Peru his name was Roberto. He showed his tattoo and pictures of when he was a young combat diver. Then he said “he’s going to become a comando soldier” to my brother in law, I laughed and he looked at me and said “why are you laughing!? I’m serious!” 😅
I would like to see episode of Iraq War Vets doing a reaction to scenes ONLY from Generation Kill, that would be awesome.
I love that show
They are already in the show though X)
Every Iraq vet I’ve spoken to, and honestly WoT vet in general, has told me that Gen Kill is the most realistic piece of media made so far. I’ve seen it a minimum of a dozen times, it’s hand in hand with Band of Brothers for me.
Grooooooming standard
" we can't just leave them (humvees) on the side of the road. We can't take off on foot because now we're leaving government equipment behind and we're running from the enemy and we just don't do that." notice his smile. lol
Afghanistan reference?
@@courage04 He was talking about in a battle. But at any rate I literally know 0 vets including myself who actually like Joe Biden no one is worried about such a comment though we weren't the ones holed up in caves in the mountains we had everything but those caverns. We care about what happened and is happening to the people especially women. Biden clearly isn't as caring a person as he'd have you believe, we knew the ANA was about 30% Taliban already and this was reported/known to him. Its not just conservatives that know(not think) Biden is a sub human POS.
He should laugh cause Bidens a dumbass
Hes not wrong. The trucks have sensitive coms and your not just gonna walk back to the FOB like your in the park. And yes, trucks on hes hand receipt lol.
Glad to see the Hurt Locker still getting minimal points.
Ain't no way Hurt Locker is going to get high points from an engineer.
It was directed by a woman…..just saying
@@User-54631 oh, didn't know that. Good to know that civilians are bad at directing military style movies and shows no matter the gender. True equality is finally achieved.
@@User-54631 u tried
@@TealJoshwhat’s insulting is that they didn’t even bring a Military Technical Advisor! Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, and Full Metal Jacket all at least had one (even played a role in the movie).
Insider needs to get a group of veterans and have them just sit and talk about stories; I can guarantee the conversation would blow civilians minds.
Respect to fellow military engineers. Combat or not. Love y'all.
Always dope to hear from folks who experienced the nasty.Thanks, Insider! Also, bring more doctors for medical scenes please 😗
Generation Kill is one of the best and most accurate representations of the Iraq war. Absolutely fantastic show!
Standards and Regulations, there troop. Needed more AR 670-1 issues.
Great video loved it, dude was awesome!
Notice how he is not introduce himself as “special forces” even though he was in special operation . That’s a real dude right there. He also have youtube channel.
11B isn't special forces its general infantry.
@@zacharymartin5033 yes it isnt, but he is a green beret.
He was 12b, combat engineer and later went on to be a green beret. @@zacharymartin5033
@@zacharymartin5033yeah but he was a green beret a 18C. But he also did his time in the big army before special forces
I really enjoyed this ratings from a real veteran, it teaches us a lot of what he and his compatriots went through. That PTSD scene was fantastic, a splendid representation of the trauma the soldiers had to endure after they returned home.
I agree 100%
1-8 Cav here, I was a tanker in Baghdad for about 2 1/2 years over seas and the only movie I've seen about my conflict that really impresses me was Sand Castles. Some urban ambush stuff I've dealt with many times they do quite well there. And yeah we did a lot of our work in trucks just like any grunt. Tanks were used about 25% of the time on missions.
American Sniper does a good job of getting the look right though. No question there that's good attention to detail.
My big beef with movies about our recent conflicts is mostly that they are set in such rural circumstances, and I've never seen war from the countryside, only in highly populated areas. And it simply looks different than what you usually see portrayed in film. It's not very exciting just having a roadside bomb explode with no movement to contact. Or evading a rooftop ambush and retuning later with a battalion or brigade element. So the movies that do show those types of things tend to be shown from POVs I'm not familiar with, like helicopters or EOD.
Long story short, we saw a lot of war but actually did very little shooting. And people don't want to see that very much. We had to be very careful about returning fire and our enemies were very keen to not be found, so the name of the game was just staying alive and making sure our responses were fast and no one panics.
Good day, a question if I may. Were you in country around June/July 2004 around Al Rashid delivering almost 70 tonnes of seeds, fertilizer and 5 tractors for the local farmers? For their/your efforts, 1st Battalion was rewarded with 5 KIA and multiple wounded. "Honour and Courage" Glad you made it home.
@@hoghogwild We were in Camp Falcon and our sector was Abu Dsheer on the southern part of the city. Very poor part of town. 2nd tour we were up in Baladiyat/Oubedi out of Camp Rustimayah, but we lived out in sector in fortified bunkers for most of that.
Can't remember which company in our battalion had the farms to the southeast of us but they had some nasty IED problems on those canal roads.
Thanks for the kinds words!
This is really good! Really like this one. Deserves more credit and views
The thing about American Sniper that pissed me off the most was him going and clearing houses with the Marines. He got down there and apparently the Marines had no idea how to clear a house, in the middle of the battle of Fallujah. Lol, for real, at that point those Marines had no need of some lone Navy SEAL to come down and show them how to do their job with a sniper rifle.
He didn’t use a sniper rifle to help them clear houses though, he used a Mk18 mod 0 CQB.
He used a m110. It’s the same rifle he was providing overwatch with.
The point is, it’s kinda insulting to assume that these Marines were as clueless as they appear in this movie. I get that it’s a movie, but it this point I think the Marines a pretty good idea of what they were doing. He could’ve gone in there with 4 knives taped together to make a sword and my point would be the same.
@@jimborowe970 you a marine? Soz but if we’re talking which branch is collectively the biggest dumbass, it’s marines. It’s a movie for entertainment, chill out.
This scene always bugged me too. Also the hand signals like they had no idea what they mean
As a veteran of Iraq this was odd because I was thinking about Iraq today.
thats right your life must be miserable due to the wrongs you committed there.
@@TheSuperi9If you're in the military, ANY military, and you don't follow orders, really bad ******* happens to you. So, shut up ya child.
@@TheSuperi9 Can you not
@@CWHistory What the truth hurts
@@TheSuperi9blame the kings not the pawns
It’s relieving to see that there is still quality content on the internet, not just mindless tik toks. Real people discussing the skills they’ve learned from mastering their craft.
love my sappers. (referring to PTSD clip in any considered low to advanced stages) good to see you (who ever the speaker is) keeping composure when being shown all these flashes of triggering clips (p.c) clips. i hope you were able to decompress and gather yourself before being left to your own mechanisms to make it home or wherever you had to go to get home alone safe and sound. i know all to well being shown flashes of war clips and battle damage and asked to identifying and explaining in barney style terms to people never having being there having to re-lase your boots and baby-sit reliving in detail actions taken on combatants (direct/indirect) stream line personally experienced sustained visible/no visible injuries and brothers who paid the ultimate respect during deployments and after reintegration that you've witnessed at a young age and re-lived yearly after at least 6-8 months between another round of 12-15 month rotations just to be told your time is up thank you and sent on your way with a breathing exercise or a thanks for sharing and a cautious unsure approach to a hand shake. those First steps outside are so different and the air doesn't even smell the same when you see people just going about their normal days with minimal attention to detail and that initial alone time sitting by yourself in you vehicle is a blessing to eventually come around from and to regaining the suppression of any first thought urges. Replacing images of war with images of family ,friends, priorities, obligations, and remembrance honoring ones lost that you continue to live selflessly and hopefully gives answers to not immediately drive to the nearest watering hole or dive bar and do stupid stuff because of displaced aggression,depression,or aggression. i applaud your growth, you learning from your experiences good and losing your freedoms you've fought so hard for and get back in the fight confidently displaying growth and maturity. and for anyone else watching and possibly struggling , drill in the understanding that you're not alone and nothing is impossible.
JAY!!!!! WE LOVE YOU!!!
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Jay from GreenBeretChronicles.
Been following his channel for a while, good stuff.
I was pretty disappointed with 'American Sniper'. When he called his wife on a Satellite phone in the middle of gunfight, I was like, "Yeah, this movie sucks."
Heck yeh dood
American Sniper was just a Chris Kyle glaze fest. Apparently his word is the word of God and must be trusted...
Plus Chris Kyle was a liar and a complete war criminal, it turns out. Him and his boy Jocko (aka the little pig dudes from Jabba’s palace come to life)
3:55 - Insider shows a picture of an Aimpoint Comp M2, not an IZLID.
Was thinking the same. Plus the image stating "CQB" and the number two guy carrying a bolt action sniper rifle at 07:30.
Also shows a grenade launcher on the humvee instead of the m2 when it gets to the river scene.
Insider does this type of stuff often.
Their producer should get the subject of the interview to review the graphics before the video gets published.
😂😂 it had me dyin
Love jay and his channel great to see him branching out and doing other stuff
Thus guy both knows his stuff and also is able to articulate it well. Jay is good at what he does.
Thank you for your service sir. You and our American troops have every ounce of my respect
Thank You for your Service. 🙏❤️✝️🇺🇸
I’m retired Navy. Had a shrink say that I had PTSD. I worked the flight deck at night for a long time. Like I told her, no, those guys with the bullets and bombs flying around them. For those of your that were there, nothing but respect.
I love that soldiers input on these movies I’m glad a real veteran is speaking the truth, Go Army.
Jay Dorleus, thank you for your service.
Guys like this with 2 decades of combat experience are coming up on retirement. I just hope that all of the lessons learned are sustained. If history is any indicator, we will probably have to re-learn some of them the hard way, unfortunately.
Huge shoutout for talking about PTSD in this
Thanks for the breakdown team sarnt
Jay's a Green Beret, wonder why the video kinda understated that bit.
This guy is a former Green Berets if I remember right.
Humble of him not to bring it up
Thank you for serving and sharing your story
It's interesting to see how Jay sees the role of an interpreter here 20:50. Insider released a similar video recently that had an Afghan war veteran pointing out that, in fact, interpreters are more than just there to translate.
Once I got to Special Ops, my interpreters did more, but in big army, they just tranlated.
Cultural translation?
9:26 looks so damn accurate and real. I've never seen this movie but it looks damn good as far as realistic gunfire and explosions.
Glad to see Generation Kill being shown. My favorite mini series/show/movie of all time. Absolutely love that show and the actors
GK great series, glad it got 9
In regards to former military (or other style videos) reviewing depiction on film, i think consider bias of how they think it should be, rather than is. Still very interesting
Your the man thanks for your service sir
So everyone is aware, Jay isn’t just a 1sgt, he was Special Forces baby 🇺🇸🦅🦅
lets get it
Imagine thinking that's a good thing. American jingoism is a disease.
--- IT IS ABOUT TIME . . . that a real soldier reviews battle movies.
haha
The John Cena movie, very honest rating❤❤ THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES SIR❤❤
In "green zone" that sniper had to be a noob because he was skylined and even I could have spotted him with my 55 yr old eyes.
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Greetings from Germany. I love those movie reaction Videos. Some movies are pretty good but the most are just silverscreen hocuspocus.
AKA movie magic.
Thank you for your service. Bless all who served. - Respect from Canada
I'm not a soldier. Had contact with soldiers that went to Iraq and most did not believe in WMD. They fought because it was their job and also few people held Sadam Hussein in high regard.
8:17 I'm sorry about your friends, Jay. Thank you all for your service. Bless you.
I was a grunt patrolling route Michigan between fallujah and ramadi and American sniper pissed me off straight bs
My gramps was a green beret and he loved this episode
19:41 Jay says 50 cal's, but the graphics team showed a picture of a Mk 19 grenade launcher, which is like a machine gun but for 40mm grenades. The US would use a mix of them.
the video had a .50 in the backround.
thank you to all past and present soldiers for your service and sacrifice
Nice commentary. Glad they got a combat engineer instead of EOD, probably because they'd have to wait 12 more hours for EOD to show up. I think the biggest thing Hollywood misses is the paranoia of what happens next with IEDs and the endless loop of trying to outsmart insurgents. I haven't seen that depicted well enough. Not to mention they always have unarmored trucks in the movies like it's still 2003. By 2004 or 2005, Humvees had tons of modified armor, the Dukes and Rhino systems, and weighed as much as a bus despite being a third the size. They also never really show the damage a 50 cal can do and how loud it is, especially when you're in the trucks.
Ya'll need to get the FNG academy together on this insider
Very informative. I like this guy.
What is the survival percentage of IED guys in the military? This is such a great video
I don't know the specifics of the scene with the interpreter, but I do want to make an observation: Interpreters aren't just there to translate. We have translators. I was one. Not a combat-oriented translator, but a translator nonetheless. Interpreters are there to actually dig into what's being said, also what's not being said, and how it's being said. What First Sergeant said is he wanted a translator, not an interpreter.
Super generous ratings on 4/10 movies when he says, “none of this makes sense at all.” Thank you for your service. You’re extremely knowledgeable.
Generation Kill is a 10 out 10 for me.
Such a great mini series I’m watching for the 5th time right now.
im just a teenage dirtbag baby
Buddy is not just an iraq vet but an afghan vet and retired as an ODA 1SG. Meaning he was an SF operator
This is the only time I've seen Jay without a hat. It's like that hat is glued to his scalp.
It’s good to see an honest take on Chris Kyle fictional god like film portrayal. I’m sure the host got lot of hate for it.
As an atropia veteran I agree with everything this guy said
Every time I watch one of these, it happens when I’m drinking, dealing with the same things that these scenes are portraying.
I landed in Iraq almost 19 years ago…you’d think I’d know by now not to watch them.
"Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk" (2016) & "Generation Kill" (2008) -most real
GK is good and I didn’t realize how good it is the first time I watched it because I was young and didn’t understand the message// moral of the story. I do now cuz I’m an adult and I’m watching GK for the 5th time! Really good interesting mini series. I love America but man we killed a lot of civilians in the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The paranoia of war is so depressing among all the other terrible things
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I glad that you saw that you needed help and got it
Great info
Why no mention of the Movie American Soldiers A day In Iraq from 2005?
What great reviews. Thanks
Don’t be modest, you’re him. Tell them you are a green beret.
Modesty is the most honorable characteristic a man can have.
@@mentlinc Fair enough
First time seeing Jay without a hat
I felt naked
I can see why. Hide the balding. Jay, they might think that you were a Seal with hairline like that.
What bothers me in movies is when I see them shooting in full automatic. That is not how it work. 100 percent of time you should be shooting in semi. It's suppose to be a precision weapon. Also you should only be shooting when you have a target in your sight picture
To quote the great warrior poet Ice Cube: If the day does not require an AK, it is good.
5:55 Twelve Bravo mentioned WOOOO Essayons! Also 16:12 is that an M1 I see?
Hey bro! You have enough muscles for the rest of the class?!? This guy angry would be a whole different beast.
Is Haditta Dam in Call of Duty MW2??
We knew there was no reason to go to Iraq in 2002 when they started talking about it.
Technically Iraq did have WMDs, but the suggestion was that they had nukes. They obviously did not.
But Nerve Gas and other biological weapons are technically WMDs.
But As I said, we all know that isn't what they meant or implied.
I'm impressed with the sniper who was able to tag Cena. Probably had some good optics to be able to see the Dr. of Thuganomics in the middle of a windy and sandy desert.
EOD grunts are a different breed, they go into a situation KNOWING things ain't right, and they have to un-f*&k things so the rest of us can get thru. I hold them in the same level of respect as the 160th SOAR chopper jockeys, those guys were utterly fearless when it came to getting us out of nasty situations and as long as I live, if I run into a Nightstalker, they will NEVER pay a cent for booze. Sua Sponte brothers, 30 years later I still miss that life, as much as it sucked at times.
The chin strap thing never happens IRL. We always have the strap buckled because we're not in WWII and those helmets aren't super lightweight. You don't want it moving around a lot.
3:54 your graphics team got that one wrong. That's an Aimpoint (or at least a copy) rifle sight.
Thank u bro
Got to hand it to the Iraqis, dudes new how to fight. Shame the whole war had to happen to begin with. So many good lives lost for no reason.
The bathast are the bad guys. Literally the arab version of the nazis
I mean the war didn't have to happen at all. But that's the sort of thing that does happen when presidents and their lackies don't get called out on obvious lies.
@@Vivi2372 Any war is one of choice, but this is the wrong framing. The question wasn’t to invade by an arbitrary date or let stability reign. The sanctions regime was actively collapsing, thanks to countries like Jordan, France, Germany, and Russia. Had it collapsed entirely, Saddam Hussein could have rebuilt his weapons programs. In some ways, of course, there is always a choice. In this case, then, the choice was to constrain Saddam or allow the restoration of his power. The status quo was not an option.
Bush didn't lie. Bush (and Vice President Dick Cheney) read the intelligence presented them. Sometimes, that intelligence was wrong. The problem wasn’t Bush-era politicization of intelligence. The problem was more systematic and, as the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency sought to deflect blame, it remains unresolved. The core problem is that much of the Iraq-era intelligence rested on either signals intelligence (e.g. intercepted phone calls) or human intelligence (e.g. debriefing defectors).
Hussein had bluffed even his own people about having weapons of mass destruction. That meant that generals speaking to each other on the telephone might make reference to a capability they believed Iraq had and debriefs of defectors deemed not to be deceptive reinforced this claim, because the defectors also believed Saddam’s propaganda.
How to avoid multiple streams of bad intelligence each reinforcing each other? Lost in the blame game is the fact that there still is no answer.
A LOT of military movies get a lot of things right, and a lot of things WRONG, about being in Iraq. I was in Iraq from 2009-2010. The sand storms DO happen a lot and they come on fast. The one thing that always stays in my memory is when one of our convoys was attacked. Some of the enemy would use old Russian RKG-3 anti tank grenades on convoys. These grenades once thrown have a small parachute that pops out and keeps it stable in flight. This is to ensure the grenade hits its target at a 90 degree angle which allows the charge to penetrate armored vehicles. One of these were used on on of our MRAPs, it took out 3 or 4 of its tires, but a HUGE hole in the side of it and actually hit the gunner. She was a female MP and was like 5 foot nothing, maybe 120lbs soak and wet. It hit her in the side and kept going, she was air lifted back to Rammstein air force base in Germany where she remained for about 6 months, but she was tough as nails and 6 months later was RIGHT BACK OUT THERE IN IRAQ.